All Souls Church in London is well-named, embracing members of every tribe and nation. It’s an old famous Anglican church that boasts leaders like the late John Stott, considered the founder of “Evangelicalism,” and Nicky Gumble, who founded Alpha. They are quite different theologically, yet brothers in Christ! All Souls!
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You might enjoy seeing their website’s homepage at www.allsouls.org
This week’s message is from All Soul’s David Turner.
Psalm 1 guides the individual, and Psalm 2 guides the world and the body of Christ.
Our first week we learned, from Philip Yancey, that we are reading over the shoulders of different writers. Psalm 2 has four voices in the four stanzas: The Nations, The LORD, The Messiah, and the Psalmist. Tim Keller also has a wonderful sermon (you can find it if you like at GospelinLife. These were his three points:
There is a King.
We Hate the King.
We Need the King.
But, and this is high praise from a huge Keller fan, though his sermon is excellent, Turner’s sermon helped me to clearly see these 4 voices and better understand the psalm.
From the time of the early church, there has been anger and hatred against believers and their King. Why, we wonder? This psalm answers that.
I’m anticipating not only a great discussion but real growth. The song this week is to be sung to the tune of The Church’s One Foundation from the hymnal: A Metrical Psalter by Julie and Timothy Tennent. For all the verses for all the whole Psalter you can purchase the e-book from Amazon or the hymnal itself from:
Remember to get Philip Keller’s A Shepherd Looks at Psalm 23 which you will need to have in 2 weeks for early July. The Amazon sale is over but Sharon says Christianbook.com is offering it for 1.79. It’s also free both in audio and e-books on library apps such as Hoopla.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above?
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
2) What do you learn about this King?
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
4. What stands out to you and why?
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
Read or listen 10 nearly the 20 minutes mark when he says “There are the first two voices.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
1. Thoughts on the above? Im interested in exploring the anger and resentment against believers. I probably read this psalm a couple of times a year and I have missed the depth even though I think I’ve heard the Keller sermon, I looked up the All Souls church website because of your photo Beautiful church
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? I needed to sell a car and I found a value online. I prayed that morning that the buyer would either lowball or make an acceptable offer. I just didn’t want to have to decide if I should accept less. They offered me more than I expected. The next day my grandson texted and he rarely initiates a text to me. His dad asked him to because they were traveling. My grandson is waiting for an electrician’s apprenticeship to open. I’ve told him I’m praying for that for him and when it happens to look up and thank God. He resists the Lord. So though God hasn’t yet answered my prayer for him I was able to tell him what God has done this week.
It’s very humbling. I felt like I should share, but understand the who am I, oh Lord. It also gives me faith in my prayers for grandson that God will bring him into surrender to Him.
I love how the Lord showed you He is in the details of your life. Love that you share your answered prayers with your grandson~ a building block to his faith. You are important in his life.
Sunday: 1. Thoughts on the above? – I’m so glad there are many scholars that we can go to, to learn from and help us to see what their view is in scripture. To be able to read different viewpoints helps me to think outside of my small thought process. 2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? – Earlier in the week he was in the laughter of people around me and myself when we went on a little trip visiting a neighboring town. Today it was in a much needed praise song at church that helped me feel his presence in the midst of some not wanted news for my friend, Tim, the spot on his lung is cancer. This songs helped me to remember that God is everywhere. I hope this link works…
Highlands https://g.co/kgs/wLzU42b
Hearing laughter-I like that! You show the character of true faith happiness-not weighed by the world’s ills and yet feeling more for others like your friend Tim.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above? I like the name, All Souls Church. Looked on their website and they do a lot of outreach to many different groups. Thank you Dee for expanding our horizons.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? In being around people more than I usually am, God showed me some things I need to work on but I also realized the importance of abiding in Him and being in constant prayer.
That is such a good statement, Sharon! Being around people certainly exposes my weakness. It’s so easy to think right and do right when I’m away from others. So thankful God keeps me among people constantly that I might practice His presence. And I need so much practice for I fail constantly!
As always, your words resonate with me, Sharon! I am so thankful for you. Such honest and encouraging words from each of you! Love you ladies so! I get so much strength from you every week.
This is so so true in me and a friend that is a new believer. She was going back to New Jersey and I gave her a send off prayer reminding her who she is in Christ and that these ladies don’t know him. To be aware of the tests from the enemy.
1. Thoughts on the above?
Our church offered the Alpha course last year, and each week we watched a short video with Nicky Gumbel and others, talking about the gospel. I believe it was updated from the original series because in these, Gumbel looked older, and there were a couple of flashbacks to him preaching when he was younger. It was very good. I have not heard of David Turner and am looking forward to hearing his sermon.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
This past week I have been listening many times to Keller’s wonderful sermon on Psalm 1, wanting to get these truths down deeper. I’ve been, I suppose for most of my life, dependent upon what has been “raining down on me from the outside” to determine how I feel. I am wanting more and more to draw from the living waters, like the tree planted by the riverbank. This morning in one of my books, I read a beautiful prayer written by Joyce Rupp, and one line said “fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”. It made me think of the psalm that says, “Oh taste and see that the Lord is good”. It also became my prayer as I was serving as chalice bearer at church this morning.
Susan — you are one who brings us resources outside of the resources we usually use and I love it. This is a great quote:
fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”.
” fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”. Susan, I love this! For some reason, it brought back memories of my trip to the Philippines and having meals with my family there. Taste and see that the Lord is good-yes, I have tasted His goodness while with family whom I have not seen for at least 6 years!
Bing, this makes me smile to think of you having meals with your family in the Philippines! I’m sure you and your family shared many wonderful meals, and conversations together!
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
I believe the “us” refers to the kings and rulers of the nations of the earth.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
Because they do not know Him, and they do not know His character. I remember in the book we studied, Gentle and Lowly, that the author explained that when Jesus said to take My yoke upon You, that it was a “non-yoke), it was a yoke of kindness. But if someone doesn’t know God, they might only see Him as a strict rule-keeper who forces unbearable rules on you, doesn’t let you have any fun, and will keep your nose to the grindstone. People want to be able to do what they want, without anyone telling them what to do.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
The Lord, the One enthroned in heaven.
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
In verse 6 when it says, “I have installed my King on Zion, My holy hill”, that would be King Jesus. (Though Jesus is seen here, I believe David was also letting everyone know that it was God who anointed him as king, so it was futile for his enemies to attack his position).
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3?
I believe it is a prophetic voice of the Messiah, Jesus. All of these verses are true of Jesus. Yet in ‘real time’, I believe David was also writing this about himself.
2) What do you learn about this King?
He is the Son of God; the nations are His inheritance and the ends of the earth His possession. He will rule over everything with an iron scepter and anyone who opposes Him will be broken into pieces.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
Does this mean that David wasn’t writing about himself at all? I have read psalms like this (and other parts of Scripture, like in the Songs where Jesus is the “shadowy Bridegroom”) to kind of have a dual meaning. I can see David writing this about himself, almost picturing God as his Father, yet also it is a prophecy.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
He warns them, telling them they’d better serve God with fear and trembling, and that they had better honor the Son (meaning the Messiah, God’s Son) or else they will be destroyed. God’s wrath remains on those who reject Jesus, but all who take refuge in Him are safe.
I also have not heard this hymn since I was a kid. Boy, it takes me back! I miss these hymns, although I love contemporary Christian music as well.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
I went to church today and saw a friend who recently lost her husband. Her daughter showed up. I haven’t seen her in years. Incidentally, she knows our son who is struggling. I mentioned that he is coming home and not doing well. I got the feeling that she might be a good connection for him when he returns. I am hopeful that God is near in this situation. Our youngest is fragile right now. Please continue to pray for my boy if you get the chance. 🙏🙏
Praying Laura for your son. May God strengthen him, uplift him, and bring healing. May God continue to be close to your precious heart as you hurt for your son, may God be your comfort, and wisdom.
Oh, Laura. Praying for your boy. As moms, we are sorrowful when our children are not doing well, physically and spiritually, or no matter how. Jesus feels with us-a Man of sorrows, acquainted with (our) griefs.
You have been on my heart, Laura. I have been praying for your eye and for your son, and the changes at home. Praying for the Holy Spirit to be very present with you and in your home, as your son returns. Our hearts break over our suffering and lost children.
Thank you Patti. Update on the eye…I had a very bad sty AND a scratch on my cornea. The cornea healed quickly but the sty lasted for 4 weeks! I think it was so big that it affected my vision until the end. I am better and my vision seems okay. Hard to know what is temporary and what is old age! Hahaha!
Lord I lift up Laura’s son to you. He is yours Father, though he may not realize it or think he’s too far gone to come back. But we know your arms are waiting for him to fall in to. Be with him Lord as he figures out what to do and be with Laura and her husband and the whole family as this waiting can be a trying time in the household. Please keep him safe in your arms until he turns from his ways. In Jesus’ name I pray, amen.
Prayers for your son to sense God’s calling and presence and to walk in His ways. Prayers also for all your family for wisdom and peace as life transitions.
Thank you all! Thank you for your kind words and prayers. He is home and now the process begins. I need prayers for me and my husband to help him, not be judgy, and pa-tience, yes Lord, patience.
Sorry I got behind last week. I traveled to the Gospel Coalition’s women’s conference last week. Alot of great teaching and worship! But between prepping to go and travel, I was not on my game for study.
1. Thoughts on the above? My thoughts are that I have truly not studied the Psalms any where near the depth I have other books of the Bible. This realization comes, as I saw last week the richness and depth that Tim Keller helped me to see in Psalm 1, and then what is hinted at in this week’s study of Psalm 2.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? Several times during my drive to Indianapolis Indiana (Chicago/Gary) it was stressful driving due to construction and back ups. God was kind and gave us (my daughter and good friend in a different car) protection and endurance.
Tammy-oh wow! I am so glad you were able to go to the TGC conference! I have listened online to several of the keynotes-Melissa Kruger, Nancy Guthrie, and David Platt. It looked like a wonderful conference. Shane and Shane led some wonderful music!
Oh, Dee! I feel your pain at sensing you strangely awakened ire against you from those you would expect it the least and of those you were trying so hard to befriend and be a witness of God’s love. And you specifically thought it would take away the “holier than thou” they may have been thinking and instead it did the opposite. Oh, I have been there and have cried buckets of tears. But God is so faithful and can take your words and make them just what He needed you to say, or even if not what He needed you to say, He is still on the throne, reigning as King. We try so hard to win people by our love, and though that is so important, God’s truth is paramount and there must be something to be either accepted or rejected. After all, it is so true what Tim Keller said that God is the King, we hate the King, and we need the King! I am finding that it is terribly outdated and old fashioned to teach of God’s holiness especially in the matter of sexual sins, even among God’s people. This continues to amaze me that formication is now an acceptable sin in the church especially if you are engaged anyway. I keep telling my kids that truth is always truth. We can anchor our hearts and lives on truth because it doesn’t change with the fashions of this world. Truth is our mooring in a changing world of quicksand and the “whatever makes you happy is ok, even with God, because He wants you to be happy” mindset. I’ve actually been told that statement by believers! And I feel like such an oddity. We just don’t have any idea of the holiness of God and how far short we fall from it. I’m so thankful for you and your stand and testimony and pray God Himself will comfort your heart in this hard moment. Much love to you.
Miriam — your words are a balm to my soul and I do think true. I think our older congregation disagreed as they are a bit out of touch, though I do know the truth is the truth. Thank you.
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) The rulers of the earth.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? It feels like chains because their identity is found in their sin rather than in Jesus Christ. They think that freedom comes in living the way they want to and God wants them to give that all up, which is bondage to them. I think of Romans 1, speaking of the wicked, it says, “They began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. They traded the truth about God for a lie. They worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator.”
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? The Lord
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? Jesus Christ, the Lord’s chosen King.
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) Jesus
2) What do you learn about this King? He is the son of God and God is His Father. He only has to ask the Lord and He’ll be given the nations as His inheritance and the whole earth as His possession. He will break the nations with an iron rod and smash them like clay pots.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? To act wisely, serve the LORD with reverent fear, rejoice with trembling and submit to God’s royal Son…or He will become angry and you will be destroyed in the midst of all your activities – for His anger flares up in an instant. But what joy for all who take refuge in Him!
4. What stands out to you and why? What was taking place when this Psalm was written is still happening today…it is timeless. This world is such an angry place because people are wasting their time with futile plans. John 14:6 comes to mind, Jesus didn’t say He was “a way” but “the way, “a truth” but “the truth, “a life” but “the life. People Need The Lord (song by Greg Nelson and Phil Mchugh)
Everyday they pass me by
I can see it in their eyes
Empty people filled with careHeaded who knows where
On they go through private painLiving fear to fearLaughter hides their silent criesOnly Jesus hears
People need the Lord, people need the LordAt the end of broken dreams, He’s the open doorPeople need the Lord, people need the LordWhen will we realize people need the Lord?
We are called to take His lightTo a world where wrong seems rightWhat could be too great a costFor sharing life with one who’s lost?
Through His love our hearts can feelAll the grief they bearThey must hear the words of lifeOnly we can share
People need the Lord, people need the LordAt the end of broken dreams, He’s the open doorPeople need the Lord, people need the LordWhen will we realize that we must give our lives?For people need the Lord, people need the Lord
Sharon, I remember the song you shared here as sung by Steve Green. These words have always stood out for me:
“Empty people filled with care Headed who knows where
On they go through private pain Living fear to fear
Laughter hides their silent cries Only Jesus hears.”
Oh, that we, those we love, and others would hunger for the abundant life Jesus is offering each one of us!
Sharon — like the translation of “they began to think up foolish ideas of what God is like.” And indeed, this scenario is timeless, sad, and frightening. I think of these four nations with sick leaders aligning against the United States – but I take comfort in God’s sovereignty and that He watches over us.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above?
I checked out the home page of the ALL SOULS CHURCH and even listened to a 30-minute sermon on Proverbs from one of their leaders. Listening to the speaker’s insights into wisdom and folly was a delight.
Psalm 2 has been challenging for me to understand before and I have skimmed through the chapter without much thought. I am excited to read and meditate on the 4 voices with you.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
Through his Word in Philippians 4: 6-7; Isaiah 26:3
Richard and I received some sad news that has caused us sorrow and disappointment. One of my first responses is anxiety and fear. Thinking of all the what ifs. God gave me these verses to cast my worries and anxieties on Him and to trust Him because He cares for me and His people.
Bing, such wonderful promises from His word! Praying for you and Richard during this time of sorrow and disappointment …May the God of hope fill your hearts with joy and peace as you trust in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. Romans 15:13
Sharon, I needed that verse as well. Thank you. HOPE is what I need right now. And praying for the impossible to be made possible by God. Not my will, Lord, but yours be done. Forgive me, Lord, for times when disappointments with people get me down. I know you have been disappointed with me but your love never failed. Help me to have sincere love for my brothers and sisters.
Bing I add my prayers with these others for you and your husband. May our “Father of mercies and God of all comfort” encourage and bless you through this hard time of sorrow and disappointment. Bing you are both deeply loved.
Monday: The Text 3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas. A. (1-3) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) – My notes in the NIV say that Peter and John ascribed it to David in Acts 4:25, in accordance to Jewish practice of honoring David as the primary author. So can it be David speaking with God and Jesus in mind, that being the ‘us’? 2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? – I think it makes them feel out of control. They are set in their ways to follow ‘their’ laws and anything that comes in the way is not something they are used to. They don’t know how to process that and stay faithful to what they know. B. (4-6) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? – Is it God speaking here? 2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? – The true King is Jesus C. (7-9) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) – This is the only one I think I don’t doubt my answer, Jesus 2) What do you learn about this King? – He will be over the nations and all of the earth. They will be ruled with an iron scepter and crushed to pieces like pottery. He will have reign over ALL. D. (10-12) 1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist. 2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? – He warns them to stop their evil ways and take refuge in the Lord, or they will be destroyed by his wrath. He is giving them another chance to repent and follow the King. 4. What stands out to you and why? – We are given so many chances to change our ways. To repent, and get in line with the Lord, yet so many times we think we have more time to stay stuck in our ways, but in an instant that time can be gone.
—“From the time of the early church, there has been anger and hatred against believers and their King. Why, we wonder? This psalm answers that.”
This quote above stood out to me in light of what I share in answer to question 2.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
—Over the weekend we had occasion to be in the company of a group of people who are totally worldly people and who make no pretense of godliness in their lives. We were at a backyard cookout at our granddaughter’s new home and these were the parents, grandparents, uncles and cousins of our grandson in-law. The only Christians in the group were our daughter, our son in-law, our granddaughter and us. It was definitely an endurance test to sit in the midst of people who are freely profane in their talking, cynical of others and consuming great amounts of beer. We went into the afternoon and evening knowing we had to practice a grace that was supernatural for each of us.
God was definitely with us and fortunately there were no confrontations and we honestly tried hard to practice kindness to them. They know we are believers and some of them pretty much ignored us. But for God it went ok and we can only trust somehow some of them saw Jesus.
1. Thoughts on the above? I’ve never heard of David Turner. I’m very interested to hear someone who tops Keller on the subject! 2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? This past week I had my 2 year old and 1 year old granddaughters for what was supposed to be 5 days that turned into 7 days. We had to do some scrambling when their parents weren’t going to be back as scheduled, but with the help of some of my daughter in law’s relatives and my work letting me get off early, the whole process of arranging care for them went very smoothly. There was plenty of opportunity for worry during this time, but I know that God is always in control and I could rest in that.
Dawn, a good reminder for me. “There was plenty of opportunity for worry during this time, but I know that God is always in control and I could rest in that.”
Awww, Dawn, you did what you had to do, at the time. Just last night I was thinking how God has allowed me to play as an adult instead of doing too much adult “stuff!” Hahaha! They do keep you busy…♥️💃⛹️♀️🙏
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
—The Nations, specifically the Gentile nations. It is a voice of rebellion.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
—They want freedom from God’s rule over their lives and want their own ways.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
—God the Father
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
—Jesus the Christ God’s own Son has been anointed as King over all.
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
—Christ the Son
2) What do you learn about this King?
—He says He is the Son of the LORD meaning(Yahweh or YHWH). And the LORD has given him all the nations to Him. The whole earth is under his power and he will crush their rebellion against him. This is actually a prophecy and it will happen at the and of the ages.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
—Ok I’m going to throw in a wrinkle here because in doing some study of this Psalm I read comments by Warren Weirsbe and he identifies the 4th Voice as the Voice of the Spirit. I have added his comments here.
WEIRSBE’S COMMENTS:
IV. The Voice of the Spirit (2:10-12)
The closing three verses are an appeal from the Spirit to the sons of men to submit themselves now to Jesus Christ. The Spirit appeals to every area of the personality:
A. The mind (v. 10).
“Be wise.. be instructed!” The “counsel of the ungodly” (PS. 1:1) has led the ungodly astray. The wisdom of the world is foolishness with God (1 Cor. 1:18-31). Our world boasts of its knowledge, and it seems that there is more knowledge than ever before, but there also seems to be less wisdom. God’s wisdom is found in God’s Word, yet the kings and rulers do not want the Word of God.
B. The heart (v. 11).
“Serve Him!” Instead of rebelling and resisting, people should bow down to Christ and serve Him. A reverential joy is what will result from yielding to Christ.
C. The will (v. 12).
“Kiss the Son” implies paying homage to Him, showing loving surrender to Him. A kiss speaks of love and reconciliation. God has been reconciled to the world by the Cross of Christ (2 Cor. 5:14-21); righteousness and peace kissed each other on the cross (Ps. 85:10). Now God is able to save lost sinners and still uphold His holy law. It is tragic that most of the people of the world are saying, “We will not have this Man to reign over us!” When Jesus returns, they will be forced to bow. before Him (Phil. 2:10-11), but then it will be too late. All God has to do is. kindle His wrath “but a little”–and sinners perish! What will it be. like when His wrath burns on this earth in great judgment?
Psalm 1 opens with a beatitude; Ps 2 closes with one: “Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.” “Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Acts 2:21).
—WEIRSBE’S identifying this last Voice as being from the Holy Spirit makes sense to me because this completes all the Voices of the Trinity speaking. First God the Father then Jesus Son and lastly the Holy Spirit.
I don’t see Turner saying it is the voice of the Psalmist as conflicting at all because we know all Scripture is Holy Spirit breathed. So either way the Holy Spirit speaks here. But like I said it makes sense to identify Him specifically.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
—He warns them to fear God and submit to His ways or they will be destroyed by the Son. But if they act wisely there is joy and reprieve for them.
4. What stands out to you and why?
—Studying Psalm 1 and Psalm 2 here has been so enlightening. They are strategically placed in the center of the Bible with what is a proper world view and an understanding of God. The comments I have read point out that Psalm 1:1 begins with a statement of blessing and Psalm 2:12 ends with one. But the blessing in both verses is conditional on a relationship with God. I went ahead and did a cursory read of Turner’s sermon and I really like what I see in his teaching. Look forward to continuing in this week’s study together.
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
—It’s how the world, the secular world comes unglued at the mention of Christianity and especially any acknowledgment of Jesus Christ. Turner’s observation wondering what is it about gentle Jesus, meek and mild that gets talented, able, bright people all stirred up. We do well to stop and identify what is behind such aversion to Him. These Psalms help identify why.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
—They accused him of “fostering alienation and division in society, of fueling, innovating sectarian debates”. Turner wondered why the vehement response to Jesus.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
—At this point I think we would see an explosive reaction from the secular powers that be even to the point of seeking to remove that leader from their leadership role if they in any way promoted the Word of God let alone the prophetic truth of Psalm 2:12.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
—The difference as Turner put it is simply by saying. “Psalm 1 says you need to know where you’re as an individual. Psalm 2 says you need to know where history is going.”
They are the same in that Psalm 1 begins with a blessing and Psalm 2 ends with a blessing.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
—It speaks to and involves having the one answer for human flourishing in all of history including ancient Israel, the apostles and us as being found in the promised Messiah, Jesus.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
—As I think back to the discussion we had about Kellers Interview on how sharing the gospel in post-Christian America is different because they have a different mindset. You approached those people talking about guilt and he pointed out guilt is not on their radar.
I don’t think you were wrong in your intent at all at the time but just naive about today’s mindset. And so you were mistaken in your approach. I would have been as well if it weren’t for Keller’s teaching and opening my eyes to cultural context.
—Ok I just went back and found some comments in my notes that I wrote to you after you shared your story about sharing with your pickleball friends and their negative reactions. Here they are again and I stick by them. 😊
“Wow Dee! I remember you sharing here about those talks you were going to give but hearing your story now and the fallout is so eye opening. What a hard experience but for God. How gracious of Him to bring this teaching by Keller to your attention and give you context and now a better understanding of your audience. That stands put to me. I am convinced God is still very much with you in this Pickleball experience and the lives of others. We haven’t seen the end of this mistake on your part. God will use it for good. We are always learning aren’t we?”
Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas. A. (1-3) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) I’m not sure who wrote this Psalm but after looking it up, maybe David or Nathan? Verse 3 is the psalmist quoting the kings and rulers. 2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? It feels like chains because as sinners, their hearts are full of pride. They (we) are bent toward selfishness, power, and control. They don’t want to submit to God who is THE king and ruler of all. Also, since no one is holy but God, no one could obey all of scripture perfectly anyway. B. (4-6) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? God is the voice. I love that he laughs at them! I mean, they are these little ants running around on earth with their chests puffed up thinking they have power over everyone and everything, but oh..the power and glory of God who created them and everything around above and beyond them. They have the audacity to think they are more powerful. 🙂 YET..even though I don’t verbalize it, I can so easily think I’m in control when I’m not. 2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? God. YES. C. (7-9) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) I think it’s Jesus Christ. 2) What do you learn about this King? The nations and the earth are His. He can and ultimately will break them with a rod of iron. I see Him breaking their pride and shattering it into pieces.
This might be way off, but this is what I envision. It isn’t going to be a little bit of recognition of their pride and a slow chipping away process, it will be sudden and severe and they will be shocked. Again, this is probably a stretch, but to me, I envision the powerful rod and the potter’s vessel representing Christ’s power and majesty over all. His power reigns over their arrogance and pride, and His beauty will break their majesty into pieces. D. (10-12) 2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? He is warning them to be wise to serve the Lord with awe and trembling. Also to humble themselves before the Lord as King taking refuge in him instead of taking refuge in themselves or others. God doesn’t delight in extending His wrath for He’s merciful. I think the warning through this Psalmist is showing His mercy! His wrath can be kindled if they turn to Him, but if they refuse Him, they will have to face His anger and wrath.
God is the voice. I love that he laughs at them! I mean, they are these little ants running around on earth with their chests puffed up thinking they have power over everyone and everything, but oh..the power and glory of God who created them and everything around above and beyond them. They have the audacity to think they are more powerful. 🙂 YET..even though I don’t verbalize it, I can so easily think I’m in control when I’m not.
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why? That the scholars think that Psalm 1 and 2 set the scene together for the whole book of Psalms. This perked my interest as I thought of the many Psalms, written by different authors that do speak to the answer of individual issues and national issues. How to live a blessed life in both circumstances and also warning what happens if you chose your own way. I also thought of how many Psalms were written by David and how much more influential he was in Solomon’s life than I thought…thinking of the Song of Songs, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Definitely inspired by the Holy Spirit!
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? ”Good on him, found it moving and cynicism in thinking he’s getting to his knees as elections loom.’
What intrigued Turner about the 55 intellectuals’ protest? He wondered, what is it about Jesus, who is so meek and mild that gets to them?
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? People would be offended and angry as they don’t want to hear what God has to say. They would consider it hate speech and how dare a leader quote the Bible!
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? Differences: 1 is individual and personal. 2 is public and cosmic, where history is going “Same: 1 starts with blessed is the one.” 2 ends with “blessed are all.”
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? It would have helped the various kings in the struggles, wars and local difficulties that Israel were facing.
The apostles of Jesus? That this Psalm points to the fulfillment of Jesus and they had no difficulty in seeing that.
Us? It helps us learn of Him and gives us understand of contemporary reality.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts? I am humbled just by your hearts desire to share Christ. I’m not going to give you any push back but I’m not going to condemn either…God knows the heart, yours and the women you shared with. You are a much different person than I am as Satan would have had a hay day beating me up with the outcome and I don’t know if I would have allowed myself to learn from it. Learn we must and that is how we grow. Thank you for sharing.
Really interesting what you pointed out about Solomon learning from David. Solomon is such a complex man — certainly knew what was right, but failed to do it in his youth, yet I feel like Ecclesiastes is repentance and Song of Songs his experience of intimacy with God. Can’t be sure — for God can just override with His Spirit.
1. Thoughts on the above: It will be interesting to have two different approaches to this Psalm. All Souls is a beautiful church with an amazing history. I am excited to get a better understanding of these Psalms! 2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? I went to an event that was a casual outdoor group, including some people I had not seen for several years. It was a joy to see them all and to observe the families together. I saw so many answers to many prayers in this large group. Many of us had prayed for one another and it was amazing to see some miracles that those of us who had prayed were aware of. Unity and joy, where they had at one time been some strife.
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas. A. (1-3) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
The world/ the nation is speaking. Rebellion against the Lord. 2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
They do not understand God’s goodness and light. They (and we) resist the Truth of God, because we are self focused & earthly focused, thinking we know better what is good for us. True wisdom is pure and peaceable, full of mercy from above, but earthly wisdom is demonic. (James 3: 13-18) B. (4-6) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
The Lord God 2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
Jesus Christ, the Son of God C. (7-9) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
Jesus 2) What do you learn about this King?
He is the Son of God; His rule will extend as far as His Father’s rule. D. (10-12) 1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist. 2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
He encourages them to show discernment and be submissive to the King of Kings. Worship Him with reverence and rejoice in Him. You will be blessed if you take refuge in Him. Yet, He is capable of wrath to those who do not honor and revere Him. 4. What stands out to you and why?
People have continued to rebels against the Lord. They (and we) seem to think we can bargain with Him, or convince Him of the importance of our needs and desires. Our world leaders continue to ignore and reject the Lord and His people.
5. What stands out and why? Psalms 1and 2 set the stage for all of Psalms. Psalm 1 blessed is the man and psalm 2 ending blessed are all. Just a wonderful reminder how much we need Him. I’d also missed the title of sermon before I have installed my king. A reminder who I am to worship and follow,
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest? Election was coming, some said good for him and others found it moving. How the talented bright people got together and got their views published, but what is it about Jesus that gets to people.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? I think there would be anger and ridicule.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? Psalm 1 is about the individual psalm 2 is the broader world view that there is a Savior for us who is enthroned as King.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? They were God’s own people and God was letting them know He was in control of things. Jesus apostles would come to understand that He is the King, God installed on His holy mountain. The wonderful fulfillment of God’s words.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts? I’m sorry you received this reaction. I think you were speaking in love and trying to explain how God takes away our guilt. What you said was out of love.
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
Turner said, “The world has been promised to Messiah whom God has enthroned as His King.” He said this is the most important piece of evidence that any human being will ever receive.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
The 55 intellectuals accused the Prime Minister of fostering alienation and division, and of fueling sectarian debates. Turner wondered, what is it about “gentle and mild Jesus” that gets people so riled up? What is it about Jesus that galvanized these people to gather together and combine their resources to write their letter of protest? What is it about Jesus that gets to people?
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
I’m not sure it would be a positive one, though because we are a nation that says we promote freedom of religion and tolerance, it should be okay. But many people are not tolerant of Christianity or anyone speaking publicly about their faith. And verse 12 specifically is a promise of God’s wrath and judgment of those who reject His Son. That would’ve been taken as very hostile words, and “how dare he say something like that?”
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Both of these psalms tell us how to have a good life in which we will flourish. Both describe what being blessed entails. They are different in that Psalm 1 speaks on a more individual level, while Psalm 2 is public and cosmic and tells us where history is going.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
This psalm may have been written to celebrate the coronations of Israel’s kings, from David onward. It speaks of how God called many of Israel’s kings His sons, and that might have given the nation courage when other nations rose up against them. The apostles would have seen Jesus as the fulfillment of this psalm. This psalm helps us to learn about Jesus and what this means for our world today; how to understand our reality.
8. Dee, I wonder if their anger was at you directly, or at God indirectly, for Him being a God who would produce guilt in a person for having sex outside of marriage? Certainly, it’s much “safer” to talk about sins like manipulation, or being lazy, or even telling a “white lie”. Right or wrong, I don’t know, but I do think it was very real and vulnerable of you to share in such a personal way.
Susan — I am just wondering if consciences have been so seared in the area of sexuality that they really do not think their behavior is wrong. I don’t know, but it was a learning experience.
I kept thinking. As I was reading, that as ancient as this text is, it could very well be fitting for todays world. especially today with the Jewish people continuing to be persecuted and many countries fighting, at war, who do not know God.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
He said it was both remarkable and predictable. Some thought it was good, some moving, and some thought of political since an election was coming up. Others felt it should not have been said (55 intellectuals); that it was divisive and alienated some, as well as forcing debate.
What could be so dividing about kind, and gentle Jesus? He couldn’t understand why people would think it was a bad thing. What is so threatening about Jesus?!
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
I think it’s the last verses that would upset them. They would focus on the anger, the warring and fighting.
They also wouldn’t like the middle part about the laughing and scoffing at those who question or don’t believe.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Psalms 1 is comforting, Psalms 2 is scary.
In the end, those who are with the Lord are blessed.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
The Israelites would have had hope in being saved.
The apostles would have hope in Jesus, the anointed One.
We have hope that God will prevail in the end.
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) Us maybe makes the voice of other peoples/nations.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? The people and nations set themselves against the Lord and His anointed, desiring to break God’s bonds and cords. Which implies that being for or setting themselves with the Lord felt like bondage, perhaps because they could not fill their fleshly desires and live life for themselves.
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? Believers or God’s anointed.
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? The Holy God of Israel
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) Maybe Jesus.
2) What do you learn about this King? That He is supreme and all of the earth is His to give as an inheritance.
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? To be wise, and instructed, to serve the Lord with fear, to kiss the Son.
4. What stands out to you and why? Blessed are those who put their trust in Him. It’s a reminder in my anxiety and fears, that I will be happy, if I put my trust in Him.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest? That 55 people who were talented, able, and bright would see Jesus who is meek and mild as so threatening that they needed to write a letter.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? Probable similar.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? They both speak of those who are blessed. Psalm one references the individual and Psalm two references the public.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? Ancient Israel could be encouraged that The Lord will bring justice to the nations raging and yet is still in control. The Apostles and us could see it as a prophesy fulfilled.
8. I think of Paul in Acts 17:33. Where wisely Paul uses the culture and space where philosophers came together to discuss ‘new’ ideas’ and then uses the ‘unknown God’ alter as a springboard to share the gospel. He understood his times, the people he was talking to, and how to engage them. If I understand your situation correctly, you are saying that you recognize your approach maybe did not meet them in a way that opened doors. Seems to me it is wisdom, particularly if it is accompanied by prayer to recognize how to meet people with the gospel in their culture. If you were a missionary to a starkly different culture, it would be no different. I also think back to the podcast you posted from Tim Keller. When he talks about how he framed the gospel for the people of New York based on what they were wrestling with. How today he would frame it in language of how Jesus gives us an identity we don’t have to earn.
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
—It is the world speaking and voicing its rebellion against the LORD. Specifically against Jesus who is God’s anointed Son. Anointed by God to be King over all things and everyone.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
—The world wants nothing to do with the LORD and his anointed and hearts are rebellious against him and his ways.
Turner says “There is a profound resistance in human beings to knowing the truth and the truth that sets us free. That’s why the world is so often in the mess it is, and our own lives are so often in a mess of turmoil and confusion.”
—Simply put the world doesn’t want Jesus to be their LORD and King even though in reality he is both.
The problem is sinful hearts saying no to God.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
—Abortion. The secular world has rejected God’s commands to value life and protect the innocent. It refuses to abide by God’s rules for life and chooses to make laws of its own allowing for the taking of innocent life.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
—I don’t think I am someone who worries but when I am honest I still at times allow myself to worry about health issues and their affect on my life. I can speculate and become fearful about things that in reality may or may not happen. I see it as doubting God and his ability to always care for me and protect me. My sin is doubt!
I am reminded to take hold of and believe Philippians 4:6&7
“Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.”
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
—It is the reality “that all who do not submit themselves to the authority of Christ make war on God.” It’s a very serious and solemn problem and is addressed to all who refuse to make Jesus Lord.
What strikes me is that it is and always has been such an entrenched lie from Satan that we can and should just do our own thing with our lives.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
—This voice is the sovereign LORD.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
—Because of Who Jesus is as God’s Son anointed by him to be King over all. Jesus is the sovereign Lord of all and he brings peace and hope and all that is good into our lives when we submit to Him.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
—The fact that this all settled.
God is God and sovereign over all and he has installed and made his Son Jesus the King and Ruler over everything. Turner says “You know, in the death, resurrection, the ascension of Jesus, our coronation, the ultimate coronation, the coronation to which all these coronations of Israel looked forward. A coronation planned before the foundation of the world has already occurred. Jesus is on the throne. God himself has unilaterally appointed Christ to rule everything.”
I love the reality and finality of that truth. There is no greater security in life or death than to know Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza. 5. What stands out and why? What is it about gentle Jesus that gets to people? Why would they go out of their way to protest? I’ve always wondered what it is that people hate about Jesus. Why would they deny Him, and why would they want to make sure he and his people are not able to influence culture, or share with others about Him. I’ve thought maybe it’s because they want to continue in their sin because deep down they know God is holy and they would have to give it up? Not sure that is too simple or accurate, so I’m excited to dive into this. 4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 55 intellectuals’ protest? The various views in his congregation were, good on the Prime Minister, or he’s pandering because his election was looming, or it may have moved others. What intrigued Turner regarding the intellectuals’ protest was how gentle Jesus triggered them to go to extreme measures in opposing his comments. 5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? They would get angry and go berserk! 6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? The same in both Psalms
The Wicked: Wrath and destruction will come on the wicked if they continue to deny God and go their own way.
The Righteous: They will be blessed by the Lord because they take refuge in the Lord. The Difference
Psalm 1 is addressing a person who is righteous rather than Psalm 2 where it addresses a group of righteous people.
Psalm 1 describes sinners as wicked scoffers, and Psalm 2 describes what the wicked delight in. There is a huge contrast in the ways of the wicked and the ways of the righteous in both Psalms.
Psalm 1 describes the righteous as delighting in God and His word therefore they desire to take refuge in God. Psalm 2 describes the wicked as scoffing at God and His people. They take refuge in anything, and anyone but God, but their end is destruction. The righteous will never wither, but the wicked will.
Psalm 1 describes how the righteous will grow fruit and prosper, whereas Psalm 2 warns the wicked that they will suffer God’s wrath 7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? That God has installed Jesus as ruler of all. Over all Kings and authority. He will come and bring the wicked rulers to their knees. This is GOING to happen. So when Israel and the apostles fear their kings and rulers who mock, scoff and want to kill them, they can take confidence in the Lord knowing that He will strike them down in the future and rule over all.
I also see what might help is seeing God’s mercy in this Psalm. His great Mercy toward the unrighteous and righteous is shown here. His wrath is just as passionate and swift as His love and mercy, but he’d much rather show us his tenderness, hence the warnings to the wicked in this Psalm. Both seeing His mercy and His wrath would help us to to persevere in abiding in Him. 8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
Hmmm…I’m the last person that should answer this because I have no idea, but I think the fact that Dee exposed it shows her authenticity, and I think that even if they were angry, seeds were planted and we don’t know how God will use it, but we do know He will. What Dee shared is way better than my attempts in the past after reading many how to witness books. lol. I had so many awkward and pushy interactions. 🙂 Thankful for God’s longsuffering!
I think our culture’s hearts are hardening in regard to guilt about sex, even though deep down a remnant may still be there. We’ve taught the culture that Christianity is all about morality more than a relationship with God who’s love will satisfy our thirst. So anything dealing with a sin might offend now a days, but I definitely don’t know what could have been said to better reach them. I think Dee’s idea of telling them about her issue with manipulation and how God rescued her via His acceptance, kindness, and in her finally resting in His control is really a good way to reach people. I also think that telling them of other ways God has loved on her, like in the God of all Comfort is huge. Maybe when we give our testimonies of before we knew Christ and after Christ we can emphasize more on how His love drew us and is still changing us? I do think people now a days are looking for faithful love and acceptance. Not sure!
Dee, yes that is what attracted me to Christ was that my brother made Him attractive to me via Christ’s love and peace in him that I’d never seen before and he showed me it’s true by his kindness to me. He had a history of being unkind and judgmental and would never apologize, but after he came to know Christ there was a moment when he messed up and was unkind to me, but asked for my forgiveness and held my hand. THAT was the turning point for me because it solidified to me that God is real and He was changing my brother. I knew it wasn’t him, and that it had to be from his relationship with God, though I didn’t know anything about the Holy Spirit at the time.
I have to add that after I came to know Christ and years later married and had four boys, my dad who was an unbeliever at the time noticed that when I messed up with the boys with the wrong attitude, I apologized and asked for them to forgive me. He said that he’s never seen that before. His parents would never do that when they hurt him and were wrong about something. He also said to me once, “That religion sure has been good for you.” I told him, “Dad, it’s not religion, or about morality, but I have a relationship with God.” I was hoping for a response or a question as to how do you have a relationship with God, but he said, “Well, whatever, but it sure has been good for you.” (My testimony is a more dramatic one so my dad only knew me before Christ so His power in changing me was VERY noticeable to my family and everyone who really knew me.) This is why I can say, “I don’t know why He loves me, but I’m glad He does!”
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas. A. (1-3) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) The kings and rulers of the earth. 2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? Because they want to do their own thing and not what God has commanded. B. (4-6) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? God 2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? Jesus C. (7-9) 1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) Jesus 2) What do you learn about this King? That He has been given power over all of the earth. D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? That they need to serve the Lord with fear and kiss the King of kings. Because He has the power and authority to destroy them. 4. What stands out to you and why? How we’re supposed to serve and fear Him, yet run to Him for refuge. Most of the time, those we fear and serve we tend to run away from, not to them.
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
Read or listen 10 nearly the 20 minutes mark when he says “There are the first two voices.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against? The voice of the world. It’s directed against the Lord and His Anointed, the Messiah.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why? Rebellion. The world doesn’t want to be shackled by religious rules and regulations It’s at the heart of sin. The world thinks of Christianity to be chains and shackles because it will limit their freedom, reduce their autonomy and diminish their life.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this? I see it in those who reject God and His teachings so they can justify living in sin. They don’t care about morality but rather liberty. They want to be the “king” of their lives.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? Oh yes!
How might you speak truth to your soul? I am struggling with something right now that all I can do is ask God why, why am I resistant?
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? All who do not submit themselves to God make war on God.
What strikes you about this part? That we shouldn’t be shocked that there is a profound resistance in human beings to knowing the truth and the truth that sets us free.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza? The Sovereign Lord, Christ appointed.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace? “The King is installed…He’s not begging men and women to make Jesus Lord. He is announcing that He personally has long settled the matter. It’s dealt with. It’s decided. It’s done.”
16. What else stands out from this section and why? When I first read that God was laughing and scoffing I thought it insensitive of Him but I liked the reason Turner gave…”He’s laughing at the sheer absurdity of all this human rebellion, which is so pointless. These specks of human dust, asserting themselves against Him.”
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against? Voice of the world thr Lord and His anointed.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why? Deeply imbedded in each individual is refusal of God’s authority in Jesus Christ. Sin and our nature to rebel against God. By nature we don’t want to be shackled by religious rules. We want our freedom and don’t trust that Jesus yoke is light not burdensome and His laws are for our good. When I heard this, Dee, I thought of you and the women to who you made your disclosure and thought that sure explains what happened,
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this? There is a lot of resistance to God’s laws ex PRIDE and women’s reproductive rights,
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul? I think speaking the truth on love. Soul, rise up and speak what the spirit gives in issues that cause controversy.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part? All who don’t submit to the authority of Christ make war on God. What a strong statement about our refusal to surrender to God and how foolish. They are fighting against Almighty God who speaks into being.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza? Voice of sovereign Lord, Christ appointed.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace? It’s already happened Jesus is enthroned. No matter what happens in this world Jesus reigns and God is in control that is when he can scoff at the rebellious. They have no real power and cannot ultimately change anything
16. What else stands out from this section and why? He is Lord already. I can’t seem to do this section justice. Just a wonderful stirring of my spirit celebrating how fortunate we are to know our Savior and that He is Lord.
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
It is hard to be a public figure like the PM. You can expect to have different reviews/views/opinions/criticisms of your message.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
Some were good on it, others were moved, and others were cynical saying his words were politically motivated as the election looms. The intellectuals marshaled their views and wrote about it. And he asked, what is it in gentle Jesus that gets to people? I thought about the book “Gentle and Lowly”. Yes, Jesus is all that, but He comes also in power and truth.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
America and Canada probably would respond the same way as the intellectuals-quoting that verse would incite division and alienation. Or that the speaker is being judgmental and better than others.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
The writer of Psalm 1 is only the psalmist whereas Psalm 2 has 4 voices including the psalmist. Both speak of the consequences of their choices.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
This psalm would make ancient Israel, the apostles and we realize and expect there would be division, alienation, and persecution for them in the future. God’s people are looked down upon and considered bigoted, narrowminded, and such.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
Dee, I admire your courage to be vulnerable to people about your personal life. But I think you could have shared something else and some people may still have responded in anger if it struck a sensitive chord. I don’t know. And the truth is truth even when we or others may not like to hear it. For me, an honest confession from a fellow believer would bring me closer to that person and would lead me to be ready to confess my sins as well to the God we both profess to believe in.
Amen to Bing, Dee. I admire your courage and your truth. (We live in an age where people do not like the truth about everything. The percentage of people that don’t listen to the news is very high.) I pray that the Lord will use this moment for His glory. I pray for second chances and for comfort for your precious heart.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The voice is the voice of the world, and their rebellion is against the Lord and His Anointed, Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
That religion will put limits on our freedom and autonomy. The very laws that God gives for our good and protection are seen by the world as chains and shackles. Turner said that this is the devil’s lie, and it works.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God – not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
I believe it is hatred of God that some people in this world can use and abuse women and children, who are made in God’s image, for horrible purposes such as sex-trafficking and pornography. Such people believe that their pleasure and profit are king, and the ones they use to achieve it are of no value other than to feed their lusts.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Yes, in fact, it happened the last two days. He wanted me to deal with something that I didn’t want to. I listen a lot to sermons by Charles Stanley, who I admire greatly for his example of a life well-lived, in faith. In a sermon I listened to this week, Dr. Stanley said that when God points out something to you, you can mark it down that He won’t go any deeper with you until you deal with it. He also always said, “Obey God and leave all the consequences to Him.” His wise words, backed by his own examples from his life, helped me to deal with what God wanted me to deal with.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
The shock that the people plot “in vain” – it’s all utterly senseless. Turner pointed out why would those 55 intellectuals, who owe their very being to God, be so resentful at the assertion of Jesus’ name in the public square? Another shock is that all who do not submit to Jesus make war on God. Just the thought of warring with God is shocking because no one can win against God. It does strike me that we can be so indignant and resentful of the God who made us and our world and gave us the beauty of nature, and food, and everything to sustain us and also just to give us things to enjoy.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
The voice of the Sovereign Lord, and He is laughing (at human rebellion and aggression against Him).
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
No matter what is going on in our world, no matter which world leaders are plotting and planning, God isn’t perturbed. He’s not laughing because it’s funny, but, as Turner puts it, it’s like a flea attacking an elephant. God has already installed His King, and no one can change that fact.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
I heard a great quote recently, “Adults inform – children explain”. God isn’t explaining anything, not trying to convince people to make Jesus Lord. He’s simply announcing what He’s already decided and done. “The foundation of our world is in a quiet throne room” (Turner quoted someone) Our world is anything but quiet, but it’s comforting to think that in heaven, it is.
8. This question has really made me think!
I guess I would want to know how you “framed” it, and who was the audience? To a younger crowd I might say, “Although it is acceptable in this day, in society, that couples live together/ have sex before marriage, it wasn’t always that way. And in the Bible, it is not that way. We are not a perfect people.” Then I would talk about your SOS writings, because even though I don’t understand the poetry, the sentiment is absolutely beautiful…how the groom waits for the bride, and how lovely their waiting turns out to be for them. I would tell them of Jesus being the bridegroom and such. It’s so beautiful. I would explain it as being a “gift” to their potential spouse. Then, I suppose you might say how disappointed you were (?) that you weren’t able to fulfill the gift for your fiancée. If you keep it about yourself, then I think they would not be angry 🤷🏻♀️.
Personally, I think they didn’t want to hear the truth. They were wrong. I agree with your church members! No one, these days wants to take responsibility for their actions. BTW, it’s much harsher punishment in other religions for breaking this “commandment.”
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17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
—The New Testament clearly records how God the Father speaks at the baptism and the transfiguration of Jesus and says this is my Son. Then in Acts 13:33 the Apostle Paul is preaching and affirms that God fulfilled in Christ at his resurrection what the Psalmist says by quoting Psalm 2:7 “The king proclaims the Lord’s decree: “The Lord said to me, ‘You are my son. Today I have become your Father.”
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
—Verse 8 says God gave Jesus the nations as his inheritance, the whole earth as his possession. Literally everything and everyone. Turner says “The Father tells him to ask for them. And he does. And the intercession of Jesus, that asking by Jesus, is quite literally the hope of the world. He is the way, the truth, and the life for humanity.”
The richness of this truth from this Psalm is a good example to me of why we need to study the Psalms and understand the depth of their meanings.
—It took the Cross. It all culminates at the death and then resurrection of Jesus as the perfect Son of God sacrificing his very life’s blood for our sin. It was a very high price that Jesus paid to become humanity but as Turner said “Jesus faced the cross with all the anger and the nails and the opposition and the abuse and the separation from his Father.” In doing so God gave Him all authority and the nations as his own. Out of that has come the Church, the body of Christ which has grown out of every nation on earth and no one and nothing can stop it. It will continue to grow as the inheritance of Jesus until He comes back. Oh “Come Quickly Lord Jesus!”
19. What stands out from this section and why?
—All of it!
It is just so rich with Christ and the truth of our giving God. Turner says “And in the decree of God, he’s been given something by his Father. And this is a Father who delights to give. Think of the things the Father has given us. He’s given us his Son. He’s given us grace. He’s given us eternal life. This is a Father who gives.” And God gave us to his very own Son as an inheritance. It is all beyond amazing.
Oh and Thank you Dee for including that wonderful rendition of the Battle Hymn of The Republic. What a wonderful reminder of biblical truths about Christ in the words of the song and a proper perspective of the kingdom (nation so to speak) of Christ the King that we are privileged to be part of. It far supersedes all earthly kingdoms and nations.
Thursday: The Messiah
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17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33) In verse 7, He, God the Father, said to Me, the Anointed One is the Me, You are My Son. Turner says these “words quoted as if to underline how special Jesus was at His baptism, at His transfiguration, and then in Acts 13:33, of His resurrection.”
18. What is the scope of His reign? In verse 8, Jesus only had to ask and the Father will give Him the nations as His inheritance and the whole earth as His possession.
What did it take for this to happen? It took Jesus to suffer and die on the cross and be separated from His Father.
19. What stands out from this section and why? I love how personal Turner makes the death of Jesus on the cross. Who did He have in mind while He hung on the cross? You and me…we’re part of all His inheritance if we’re His. Also, the fact that “the Lordship, the rule of Christ and the fulfill of this promise is the answer to aggressive secularism, to militant Islam and to the iron grip of Buddhist ideology.” Rulers of atheist countries or anyone trying to obliterate Christianity, don’t have a chance against the Kingship of Jesus Christ!
I liked this too, Sharon. “the Lordship, the rule of Christ and the fulfill of this promise is the answer to aggressive secularism, to militant Islam and to the iron grip of Buddhist ideology.”
5. What stands out and why?
The problem then and now is: All who do not submit themselves to the Authority of Christ, make war on God. They will admire Jesus as a moralist, a philosopher, a teacher, but not their KING. They do not want His Name in the public square with the world leaders, politicians, opinion formers, culture shapers, casual religious people: church goers, decent Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and internet influencers. He is Lord already, they just do not want to live under His authority: the opinion of the world cannot change the fact that He is Lord. 4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
They resented the Name of Jesus being used in the public speech. Turner said “What is it about Jesus that gets to people?” 5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
Many Christians would like it, but the influencers and politicians and most news sources would come unglued and find a million reason why the person who spoke should be removed from office. 6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Psalm 1 is personal and individual. Psalm 1: Where are you going as a individual. Psalm 2 is public. You need to know where history was and where it is going to have a world view. Both have blessings; Psalm 1 begins with ” How blessed is the man …..his delight ins in the law of the Lord.”…… and Psalm 2 ends with “How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!” 7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
Ancient Israel would have been encouraged and given hope. The apostles were committed to Jesus and followed Him, but still did not totally understand what kind of King He was until after the Resurrection. Today, Christians vary in how they read scripture. Those who are committed to Christ totally, still fall into sin, but have an understanding that we will (as Dee was) often be rejected when we speak God’s truth. People want to find their own truth in the Bible, which is just another way of creating their own Jesus. Jesus in Lord. He Word is God’s law. We will sin, but we have a Savior and we repent to Him. Many Christians feel that is too much to live up to, as we have to give up some of our freedoms if He is to be our King.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
This is sad and upsetting, but not surprising. I love what all the others wrote about this. I do feel that God will still use this for His good, Dee. (As, Bev mentioned) When we bear our hearts, especially with a tender experience like you did, it demonstrates your great love and respect for the Lord and His ways. The audience was not ready for that, because they do not see Jesus that way yet. It is a way of life that they think is no longer relevant….( along with lots of other rules)…and that is the direction of our world. As Turner said, the teachings of Jesus were to make our lives better; to make us better disciples. We just don’t want Jesus to change, or be in charge of, our life style and habits. We want Him to fit into the lifestyle that we choose. They see His ways as a small thing, yet in the heart of a Christian, His ways are the best way…it is a huge thing. I love that you were brave to do that. We live with a culture that is what Tim Keller described, as in New York….
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33). He is referred to by God as Son.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen? He was given the nations. His death, the ridicule, His separation from God as He hung on the cross and His resurrection.
19. What stands out from this section and why? That Jesus asked for the nations and now intercedes for them and that hope of the world and life for humanity. The awe of all that Jesus still does for us. Oh what a Savior, isn’t He wonderful,
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
Read or listen 10 nearly the 20 minutes mark when he says “There are the first two voices.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The world and their rebellion is against the Anointed One, the Messiah, the Lord, Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
The little word, “against” saying “No” to God and refusing to submit to His authority
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
The people want to be their king. God can be our “man upstairs” and do what we want him to do for us. But He as my King? No way. I want to be my king. And if we do have a king, he has to be king on our terms.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Today, I struggled with impatience with somebody, and I had these really bad, unloving thoughts about the person. I wrestled with God asking Him why does this person irks me so often. I did not want to acknowledge my pride and selfishness and resisted what ugliness God was revealing to me about myself.
I am telling my soul to be honest about my sinful thoughts, confess them to God, and change my attitude. I need to come to God and ask him to “create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.”
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
The psalmist’s point is that all who do not submit themselves to the authority of Christ make war on God. This is more serious to me than it used to be.
I know of a few people who think this way: “Christianity will somehow limit my freedom. It’ll somehow reduce my autonomy. It’ll somehow diminish my life. It’s the devil’s most successful lie ever that what God does for our well-being, that he gives us for our protection, the laws he prescribes that are for our good, we regard as chains to bind us.”
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
the voice of the sovereign LORD, Christ appointed
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
The LORD is sovereign so nothing that happens here escapes His eyes and hands. He will bring about His righteousness and justice.
16. What else stands out from this section and why? The one enthroned in heaven laughs. The LORD scoffs at them. No, he’s laughing at the sheer absurdity of all this human rebellion, which is so pointless. He’s laughing at these specks of human dust, asserting themselves against him. The King is installed. Keep your eyes there.”
I am telling my soul to be honest about my sinful thoughts, confess them to God, and change my attitude. I need to come to God and ask him to “create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.”
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The “voice of the world,” and they are directing their anger towards the LORD and His anointed One, specifically Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
We have a bend to disobey God. We refuse God’s authority through Jesus. We don’t want to follow rules and regulations. People think Christianity will limit their freedom and fun.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
This brings to mind the worldly idea that being a Christian means to hate others. I am reminded of it when I see a colleague with a sticker on her water bottle that says, “Love is Love.” That suggests that I don’t love if I don’t agree with the idea of men loving men and women loving women. The world has twisted the idea of Christianity because it hates the truth, that womenand menare the correct union. He made Adam and Eve to be the “standard,” to procreate, to be our model for generations. God requires we behave and follows His Way, and the world doesn’t like the rules so it changes them. However, it is my experience that when the world goes the way of the world, people are miserable.
I agree, Laura. Those who go against God’s ways so seem to be miserable and sad. Many right now are flaunting sin and denying God. It has made studying Psalm 2, especially verses 3-5, so meaningful to me, at this time in History, when the world and our country seem to be turning away so proudly from God and His Truth.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against? The world is rebelling against God.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why? You might be a nice guy or philosopher but we don’t want a king. We don’t your rule/authority in our lives.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul? Soul, this area where you desire to have your own way, is a place where your flesh deceives you. What feels like control is actually deception, it a false thing in your right hand. It will not give you what it promises you it will eat you whole.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part? That God laughs. It gives me a pleasant sense of ‘yeah that my powerful God’.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza? God the Father.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace? He has fulfilled His will and installed His king.
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33) Because Jesus is the Son He has begotten.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen? All of heaven and earth. Christ’s sacrifice.
19. What stands out from this section and why? The reminder that Jesus gave His life and suffered His death, because He had me on His heart that I have been given to Him. Once again that thought that I am His, is peace.
Friday: The Psalmist
Listen or read to the end.
20. What stands out to you and why? There is so much, but the words “be wise,” stood out to me as this is ultimately to us. We must be wise and listen to warnings, serve the Lord with reverent fear, rejoice with trembling and submit to Jesus Christ. Being wise is remembering that He is Lord and I am not! As Turner says, “we’re all in a way like little kings, little rulers who like to call their own shots, make their own decisions and be in charge of our own destiny.” It’s foolish to think that we’re in charge but why is it so hard to give Him the authority over our lives? For me, it has to be a daily (sometimes moment by moment) submission to His will. May I be reminded that “I can’t flee from Jesus but I can flee to Him and what better place to be than in the “safety and refuge of Jesus.”
I love this, Sharon! It is so very true! May I be reminded that “I can’t flee from Jesus but I can flee to Him and what better place to be than in the “safety and refuge of Jesus.”
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I love the rendition of this song. Thanks for sharing this, Dee.
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
Jesus being raised…as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.”
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
He reigns over all nations and the ends of the earth. God the Father commissioned the Son and was given the power to be so through His resurrection from the dead. The nations and the ends of the earth were God’s gift to His Son, Jesus.
19. What stands out from this section and why?
Jesus has asked all nations to be his inheritance including the rebellious ones. So there is hope for us who submit to him. But…There’s an uncomfortable fierceness about the alternative, which unsettles us, if we’re honest. There’s an amnesty for rebels going on which will not last forever. There’s a time coming for a calling to account that is unavoidable when his enemies will be crushed. And that’s a solemn word. And Revelation 19:15 quotes this verse as it speaks solemnly and shockingly of the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God, actioned by the one who is called King of Kings and LORD of LORDs.
Friday: The Psalmist
Listen or read to the end.
20. What stands out to you and why?
It is foolish to stand against the authority of the Lord.
Be wise. I am not the ruler of my little world. I am not in charge of my destiny as well as those I love the most.
The mark of the wise person is that they can listen to warnings. Unwise people don’t listen to warnings. serve the LORD with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling. Verse 12, Kiss the Son, in homage and submission and affection.
Saturday:
22. What is your take-a-way and why?
This prayer is my takeaway. So many grievous things are going on in the world. I need to remember that Jesus is LORD and King.
LORD, make the glory and beauty of Jesus sweet to us. Deepen our love for you and our will to serve you. Help us to buy into all you disclose of yourself here in Psalm 2. Give us the courage and confidence that you are the LORD of history and that the nations. Be our refuge and our security, now and always for your glory. Amen.
Amen to Dee! This is powerful and I need it right now. LORD, make the glory and beauty of Jesus sweet to us. Deepen our love for you and our will to serve you. Help us to buy into all you disclose of yourself here in Psalm 2. Give us the courage and confidence that you are the LORD of history and that the nations. Be our refuge and our security, now and always for your glory. Amen.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Yea indeed! I have no self-control sometimes. It comes and goes. I know what I need to do, yet I don’t do it. I am in one of those times right now. I know that He provides all and I will not lack what I need to survive. However, I am like Paul with his thorn, begging for God to take it away. But Paul said it reminded him of not becoming too proud. Christ said His power works best in weakness. So Paul “boasted” in his weakness so that Christ’s power would prevail. Hmmmm…..
Oh Lord, thank You for being present from before the beginning. In Bible stories we learn how You helped your obedient people, in all circumstances, out of their troubles. Some had to wait a life time, but You were there. I remember that, and have hope that You can help me too.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
There is a reference to Jesus being crucified. If you turn to Acts 23:4 you see that the apostles talk about Psalm 2 and how it foreshadowed what actually happened in their day…government rising up and killing the anointed One. It was comforting to them to know that this was the plan from the beginning. God was in charge.
I think an interesting point is that he says if you don’t submit to the authority of Christ then you “make war” with God.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
God
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
Everything is in place. Everything is and has been set, for all of the ages. God is in control and it’s a done deal.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
One day we will all bow to Jesus, willingly, or not. It’s sobering and sad because some of my family won’t concede. They have let the world take them over and they are blind to the truth. Help my family members dear Lord. 🙏🙏
22. What is your take-a-way and why?
This is a powerful Psalm and it took on new meaning for me. We know that God is in charge! I love Turner’s wonderful sermon and the rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic too. This was a very difficult week for me, where I felt much sorrow. I needed this Psalm to remind me to keep me eyes on the Lord! This is His world! I am committed to Him, in loneliness and sorrow! In my devotional by Oswald Chambers there was a post titled “Receiving one’s self in the fires of sorrow. ” These quotes of his, help me turn back to the Savior. “Sorrow is one of the biggest facts in life; it is no use saying sorrow ought not to be. Sin and sorrow and suffering are, and it is not for us to say that God has made a mistake in allowing them. ” “If you receive yourself in the fires of sorrow, God will make you nourishment for other people. ” Lord help me to truly give myself to You and to turn my eyes to You every minute of the day! I Praise Your Name, no matter my circumstances.
El Roi=The God of Seeing; El Shaddai= God Almighty; Jehovah Rapha=The God who Heals; Abba=Father Elohim=Creator.
Patti, your post here brought so much comfort to me for my “sorrows” this week. Your loss is so recent and raw and I thank God for you and His overflowing grace to you in the midst of it all. Indeed what O. Chambers said is true: your sorrow at this time has nourished us here. Thank you for sharing from your heart.
So good from Oswald Chambers which helped Patti this week:
“Sorrow is one of the biggest facts in life; it is no use saying sorrow ought not to be. Sin and sorrow and suffering are, and it is not for us to say that God has made a mistake in allowing them. ” “If you receive yourself in the fires of sorrow, God will make you nourishment for other people. ”
I want to add this as an addition to my take away:
For the last 2 weeks, our community has been gearing up for the possibility of flooding due to the torrential rains in IA. Farmers were moving equipment and grain to safer, higher ground. This week I was prompted to share these verses with my Bible Study group at church. I thought it tied up with our Psalm 2 study here in a special way. Several of us prayed at 2 appointed hours. I rejoice in how the Lord is answering our prayers. Some farms have already received some flooding but not as much as we expected and feared:
Psalm 29:10-11 The Lord sits enthroned over the flood;the Lord is enthroned as King forever.11 The Lord gives strength to his people; the Lord blesses his people with peace.
Thank you for sharing this Psalm, Bing. I will be praying for your area to be protected, in this time of flooding. These rains certainly caused craziness in Minneapolis, where I grew up.
20. What stands out to you and why? You escape from God by escaping to Him, you flee from God’s anger by hiding in His mercy That wrath is gone forever. There is no better place to be than the safety and refuge of Jesus Because there is no better place than to be in Christ
21. Now see if you can pray this psalm for the world leaders and for yourself. Lord, what fools we are as nations and individuals when we think we can do life without You. You are all knowing and all powerful and know the beginning and the end. You have given us Christ as King and Savior. Nations and people be aware! Adore and worship the one true King. Blessed are the ones who take refuge in Him.
22. What is your take-a-way and why? Too slow down and appreciate the beauty in the psalm I have not one creative gene in me So I’m thankful to understand how this psalm flows and the voices contained within it
Wow! The Battle Hymn of the Republic! So good! I love:
“As he died to make us holy, let us die to make men free…”
Listen or read up to nearly 26 and “Who can stand in the day?” 17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
It says that the “…king says…the LORD says you are my Son…I am your Father.”
Acts 13:33 refers to Psalms 2:7, saying that it says the same thing, but for modern times.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
All the nations, to the ends of the Earth.
He died for us.
19. What stands out and why?
160 million Christians in China???!!! Thank you missionaries!
We take refuge in God. Don’t run away. We find our safety in Him. That is a comfort! 21. Now see if you can pray this psalm for the world leaders and for yourself.
Our Lord, thank You for being our safety net in times when we are afraid. Help the leaders of the world see You and run to You, not to warring or evil. Help the basic people, the citizens, to lift up genuine, God-fearing leaders to run their countries. Allow them to see that You are their only hope. Rest on their hearts and soften them to others. I pray in Your Holy Name. Amen.
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1. Thoughts on the above? Im interested in exploring the anger and resentment against believers. I probably read this psalm a couple of times a year and I have missed the depth even though I think I’ve heard the Keller sermon, I looked up the All Souls church website because of your photo Beautiful church
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? I needed to sell a car and I found a value online. I prayed that morning that the buyer would either lowball or make an acceptable offer. I just didn’t want to have to decide if I should accept less. They offered me more than I expected. The next day my grandson texted and he rarely initiates a text to me. His dad asked him to because they were traveling. My grandson is waiting for an electrician’s apprenticeship to open. I’ve told him I’m praying for that for him and when it happens to look up and thank God. He resists the Lord. So though God hasn’t yet answered my prayer for him I was able to tell him what God has done this week.
I love how He’s in the smallest of details. So glad you got more than what you were expecting on your car.
Your post so encouraged me in seeing how God answered your prayer and will keep your grandson in my prayers.
Judy, love the seeds you are planting in your grandson’s life.
Great specific answer from your Provider, Judy.
It’s very humbling. I felt like I should share, but understand the who am I, oh Lord. It also gives me faith in my prayers for grandson that God will bring him into surrender to Him.
Judy, your response to your grandson encourages me despite his resistance to the Lord. Yes, we need to continue praying for our loved ones.
I love how the Lord showed you He is in the details of your life. Love that you share your answered prayers with your grandson~ a building block to his faith. You are important in his life.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above? – I’m so glad there are many scholars that we can go to, to learn from and help us to see what their view is in scripture. To be able to read different viewpoints helps me to think outside of my small thought process.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? – Earlier in the week he was in the laughter of people around me and myself when we went on a little trip visiting a neighboring town. Today it was in a much needed praise song at church that helped me feel his presence in the midst of some not wanted news for my friend, Tim, the spot on his lung is cancer. This songs helped me to remember that God is everywhere. I hope this link works…
Highlands https://g.co/kgs/wLzU42b
Julie, I so agree with your answer to #1. I will admit that is not always easy for me.
Love your honest simple response, Sharon.
Hearing laughter-I like that! You show the character of true faith happiness-not weighed by the world’s ills and yet feeling more for others like your friend Tim.
Thank you for sharing this song, Julie. I needed it today. I am sorry about your friend, Tim.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above?
I like the name, All Souls Church. Looked on their website and they do a lot of outreach to many different groups. Thank you Dee for expanding our horizons.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
In being around people more than I usually am, God showed me some things I need to work on but I also realized the importance of abiding in Him and being in constant prayer.
That is such a good statement, Sharon! Being around people certainly exposes my weakness. It’s so easy to think right and do right when I’m away from others. So thankful God keeps me among people constantly that I might practice His presence. And I need so much practice for I fail constantly!
This made me smile — so true from Miriam:
It’s so easy to think right and do right when I’m away from others.
So true Miriam…thank you for your words of encouragement. Always love seeing you here😊
Yes, Miriam, Me too!
Sharon, so true about being around people. I, too, need to work on some things.
As always, your words resonate with me, Sharon! I am so thankful for you. Such honest and encouraging words from each of you! Love you ladies so! I get so much strength from you every week.
This is so so true in me and a friend that is a new believer. She was going back to New Jersey and I gave her a send off prayer reminding her who she is in Christ and that these ladies don’t know him. To be aware of the tests from the enemy.
1. Thoughts on the above?
Our church offered the Alpha course last year, and each week we watched a short video with Nicky Gumbel and others, talking about the gospel. I believe it was updated from the original series because in these, Gumbel looked older, and there were a couple of flashbacks to him preaching when he was younger. It was very good. I have not heard of David Turner and am looking forward to hearing his sermon.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
This past week I have been listening many times to Keller’s wonderful sermon on Psalm 1, wanting to get these truths down deeper. I’ve been, I suppose for most of my life, dependent upon what has been “raining down on me from the outside” to determine how I feel. I am wanting more and more to draw from the living waters, like the tree planted by the riverbank. This morning in one of my books, I read a beautiful prayer written by Joyce Rupp, and one line said “fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”. It made me think of the psalm that says, “Oh taste and see that the Lord is good”. It also became my prayer as I was serving as chalice bearer at church this morning.
Susan — you are one who brings us resources outside of the resources we usually use and I love it. This is a great quote:
fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”.
Yes, Susan, this is so good.
” fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”. Susan, I love this! For some reason, it brought back memories of my trip to the Philippines and having meals with my family there. Taste and see that the Lord is good-yes, I have tasted His goodness while with family whom I have not seen for at least 6 years!
Bing, this makes me smile to think of you having meals with your family in the Philippines! I’m sure you and your family shared many wonderful meals, and conversations together!
This is so good, Susan: “fill me, Lord, with love that tastes like You”.
What a great prayer. Fill me Lord with love that tastes like You
Susan, wonderful connection between the Joyce Rupp quote and the psalm that says “Oh taste and see that the Lord is good.” Love this.
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
I believe the “us” refers to the kings and rulers of the nations of the earth.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
Because they do not know Him, and they do not know His character. I remember in the book we studied, Gentle and Lowly, that the author explained that when Jesus said to take My yoke upon You, that it was a “non-yoke), it was a yoke of kindness. But if someone doesn’t know God, they might only see Him as a strict rule-keeper who forces unbearable rules on you, doesn’t let you have any fun, and will keep your nose to the grindstone. People want to be able to do what they want, without anyone telling them what to do.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
The Lord, the One enthroned in heaven.
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
In verse 6 when it says, “I have installed my King on Zion, My holy hill”, that would be King Jesus. (Though Jesus is seen here, I believe David was also letting everyone know that it was God who anointed him as king, so it was futile for his enemies to attack his position).
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3?
I believe it is a prophetic voice of the Messiah, Jesus. All of these verses are true of Jesus. Yet in ‘real time’, I believe David was also writing this about himself.
2) What do you learn about this King?
He is the Son of God; the nations are His inheritance and the ends of the earth His possession. He will rule over everything with an iron scepter and anyone who opposes Him will be broken into pieces.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
Does this mean that David wasn’t writing about himself at all? I have read psalms like this (and other parts of Scripture, like in the Songs where Jesus is the “shadowy Bridegroom”) to kind of have a dual meaning. I can see David writing this about himself, almost picturing God as his Father, yet also it is a prophecy.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
He warns them, telling them they’d better serve God with fear and trembling, and that they had better honor the Son (meaning the Messiah, God’s Son) or else they will be destroyed. God’s wrath remains on those who reject Jesus, but all who take refuge in Him are safe.
I’m so happy when I see your smiling face and thought-provoking comments here, Susan!
So on target, Susan. I think the psalmist could be David too, though we don’t know.
1. Thoughts on the above?
I wonder, why we, as Christians, are so hated.
I also have not heard this hymn since I was a kid. Boy, it takes me back! I miss these hymns, although I love contemporary Christian music as well.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
I went to church today and saw a friend who recently lost her husband. Her daughter showed up. I haven’t seen her in years. Incidentally, she knows our son who is struggling. I mentioned that he is coming home and not doing well. I got the feeling that she might be a good connection for him when he returns. I am hopeful that God is near in this situation. Our youngest is fragile right now. Please continue to pray for my boy if you get the chance. 🙏🙏
Praying Laura for your son. May God strengthen him, uplift him, and bring healing. May God continue to be close to your precious heart as you hurt for your son, may God be your comfort, and wisdom.
Praying for your dear boy, dear Laura. How much heartache you have had over the years.
Oh, Laura. Praying for your boy. As moms, we are sorrowful when our children are not doing well, physically and spiritually, or no matter how. Jesus feels with us-a Man of sorrows, acquainted with (our) griefs.
Laura, praying for your sweet son as he returns home and may God give you strength, wisdom and direction in accordance to His will.
You have been on my heart, Laura. I have been praying for your eye and for your son, and the changes at home. Praying for the Holy Spirit to be very present with you and in your home, as your son returns. Our hearts break over our suffering and lost children.
Thank you Patti. Update on the eye…I had a very bad sty AND a scratch on my cornea. The cornea healed quickly but the sty lasted for 4 weeks! I think it was so big that it affected my vision until the end. I am better and my vision seems okay. Hard to know what is temporary and what is old age! Hahaha!
Lord I lift up Laura’s son to you. He is yours Father, though he may not realize it or think he’s too far gone to come back. But we know your arms are waiting for him to fall in to. Be with him Lord as he figures out what to do and be with Laura and her husband and the whole family as this waiting can be a trying time in the household. Please keep him safe in your arms until he turns from his ways. In Jesus’ name I pray, amen.
Prayers for your son to sense God’s calling and presence and to walk in His ways. Prayers also for all your family for wisdom and peace as life transitions.
Sweet Laura, I will pray for your son, and your friend who just lost her husband-so fresh and so painful.
Laura, I will be praying for your son who is struggling so. It must tear at your heart to see him hurting.
Thank you all! Thank you for your kind words and prayers. He is home and now the process begins. I need prayers for me and my husband to help him, not be judgy, and pa-tience, yes Lord, patience.
Sorry I got behind last week. I traveled to the Gospel Coalition’s women’s conference last week. Alot of great teaching and worship! But between prepping to go and travel, I was not on my game for study.
1. Thoughts on the above? My thoughts are that I have truly not studied the Psalms any where near the depth I have other books of the Bible. This realization comes, as I saw last week the richness and depth that Tim Keller helped me to see in Psalm 1, and then what is hinted at in this week’s study of Psalm 2.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? Several times during my drive to Indianapolis Indiana (Chicago/Gary) it was stressful driving due to construction and back ups. God was kind and gave us (my daughter and good friend in a different car) protection and endurance.
How wonderful you were able to go to the Women’s Gospel Coalition conference, Tammy!
Tammy-oh wow! I am so glad you were able to go to the TGC conference! I have listened online to several of the keynotes-Melissa Kruger, Nancy Guthrie, and David Platt. It looked like a wonderful conference. Shane and Shane led some wonderful music!
Tammy, so glad for God’s protection over y’all in your travels to TGC and how wonderful that you were able to go!
What a blessing to attend that conference, Tammy! Thanking God for safety and protection for you all.
Oh, Dee! I feel your pain at sensing you strangely awakened ire against you from those you would expect it the least and of those you were trying so hard to befriend and be a witness of God’s love. And you specifically thought it would take away the “holier than thou” they may have been thinking and instead it did the opposite. Oh, I have been there and have cried buckets of tears. But God is so faithful and can take your words and make them just what He needed you to say, or even if not what He needed you to say, He is still on the throne, reigning as King. We try so hard to win people by our love, and though that is so important, God’s truth is paramount and there must be something to be either accepted or rejected. After all, it is so true what Tim Keller said that God is the King, we hate the King, and we need the King! I am finding that it is terribly outdated and old fashioned to teach of God’s holiness especially in the matter of sexual sins, even among God’s people. This continues to amaze me that formication is now an acceptable sin in the church especially if you are engaged anyway. I keep telling my kids that truth is always truth. We can anchor our hearts and lives on truth because it doesn’t change with the fashions of this world. Truth is our mooring in a changing world of quicksand and the “whatever makes you happy is ok, even with God, because He wants you to be happy” mindset. I’ve actually been told that statement by believers! And I feel like such an oddity. We just don’t have any idea of the holiness of God and how far short we fall from it. I’m so thankful for you and your stand and testimony and pray God Himself will comfort your heart in this hard moment. Much love to you.
Miriam — your words are a balm to my soul and I do think true. I think our older congregation disagreed as they are a bit out of touch, though I do know the truth is the truth. Thank you.
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
The rulers of the earth.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
It feels like chains because their identity is found in their sin rather than in Jesus Christ. They think that freedom comes in living the way they want to and God wants them to give that all up, which is bondage to them. I think of Romans 1, speaking of the wicked, it says, “They began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. They traded the truth about God for a lie. They worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator.”
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
The Lord
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
Jesus Christ, the Lord’s chosen King.
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
Jesus
2) What do you learn about this King?
He is the son of God and God is His Father. He only has to ask the Lord and He’ll be given the nations as His inheritance and the whole earth as His possession. He will break the nations with an iron rod and smash them like clay pots.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
To act wisely, serve the LORD with reverent fear, rejoice with trembling and submit to God’s royal Son…or He will become angry and you will be destroyed in the midst of all your activities – for His anger flares up in an instant. But what joy for all who take refuge in Him!
4. What stands out to you and why?
What was taking place when this Psalm was written is still happening today…it is timeless. This world is such an angry place because people are wasting their time with futile plans. John 14:6 comes to mind, Jesus didn’t say He was “a way” but “the way, “a truth” but “the truth, “a life” but “the life.
People Need The Lord (song by Greg Nelson and Phil Mchugh)
Everyday they pass me by
I can see it in their eyes
Empty people filled with careHeaded who knows where
On they go through private painLiving fear to fearLaughter hides their silent criesOnly Jesus hears
People need the Lord, people need the LordAt the end of broken dreams, He’s the open doorPeople need the Lord, people need the LordWhen will we realize people need the Lord?
We are called to take His lightTo a world where wrong seems rightWhat could be too great a costFor sharing life with one who’s lost?
Through His love our hearts can feelAll the grief they bearThey must hear the words of lifeOnly we can share
People need the Lord, people need the LordAt the end of broken dreams, He’s the open doorPeople need the Lord, people need the LordWhen will we realize that we must give our lives?For people need the Lord, people need the Lord
Sharon, I remember the song you shared here as sung by Steve Green. These words have always stood out for me:
“Empty people filled with care Headed who knows where
On they go through private pain Living fear to fear
Laughter hides their silent cries Only Jesus hears.”
Oh, that we, those we love, and others would hunger for the abundant life Jesus is offering each one of us!
Sharon — like the translation of “they began to think up foolish ideas of what God is like.” And indeed, this scenario is timeless, sad, and frightening. I think of these four nations with sick leaders aligning against the United States – but I take comfort in God’s sovereignty and that He watches over us.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above?
I checked out the home page of the ALL SOULS CHURCH and even listened to a 30-minute sermon on Proverbs from one of their leaders. Listening to the speaker’s insights into wisdom and folly was a delight.
Psalm 2 has been challenging for me to understand before and I have skimmed through the chapter without much thought. I am excited to read and meditate on the 4 voices with you.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
Through his Word in Philippians 4: 6-7; Isaiah 26:3
Richard and I received some sad news that has caused us sorrow and disappointment. One of my first responses is anxiety and fear. Thinking of all the what ifs. God gave me these verses to cast my worries and anxieties on Him and to trust Him because He cares for me and His people.
Bing, such wonderful promises from His word! Praying for you and Richard during this time of sorrow and disappointment …May the God of hope fill your hearts with joy and peace as you trust in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. Romans 15:13
Sharon, I needed that verse as well. Thank you. HOPE is what I need right now. And praying for the impossible to be made possible by God. Not my will, Lord, but yours be done. Forgive me, Lord, for times when disappointments with people get me down. I know you have been disappointed with me but your love never failed. Help me to have sincere love for my brothers and sisters.
Praying for you dear Bing. So thankful that our God understands our unspoken sorrows. Love the verses that you and Sharon both shared.
Oh Bing, my prayer for you and Richard will be that you continue to feel His presence as you deal with this unexpected news.
Bing, I’m glad God has reminded you of His promises. Prayers you and Richard have strength, wisdom and peace.
Bing I add my prayers with these others for you and your husband. May our “Father of mercies and God of all comfort” encourage and bless you through this hard time of sorrow and disappointment. Bing you are both deeply loved.
Praying for you and Richard, Bing.
Praying Bing 🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) – My notes in the NIV say that Peter and John ascribed it to David in Acts 4:25, in accordance to Jewish practice of honoring David as the primary author. So can it be David speaking with God and Jesus in mind, that being the ‘us’?
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? – I think it makes them feel out of control. They are set in their ways to follow ‘their’ laws and anything that comes in the way is not something they are used to. They don’t know how to process that and stay faithful to what they know.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? – Is it God speaking here?
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? – The true King is Jesus
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) – This is the only one I think I don’t doubt my answer, Jesus
2) What do you learn about this King? – He will be over the nations and all of the earth. They will be ruled with an iron scepter and crushed to pieces like pottery. He will have reign over ALL.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? – He warns them to stop their evil ways and take refuge in the Lord, or they will be destroyed by his wrath. He is giving them another chance to repent and follow the King.
4. What stands out to you and why? – We are given so many chances to change our ways. To repent, and get in line with the Lord, yet so many times we think we have more time to stay stuck in our ways, but in an instant that time can be gone.
Sunday:
1. Thoughts on the above?
—“From the time of the early church, there has been anger and hatred against believers and their King. Why, we wonder? This psalm answers that.”
This quote above stood out to me in light of what I share in answer to question 2.
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week?
—Over the weekend we had occasion to be in the company of a group of people who are totally worldly people and who make no pretense of godliness in their lives. We were at a backyard cookout at our granddaughter’s new home and these were the parents, grandparents, uncles and cousins of our grandson in-law. The only Christians in the group were our daughter, our son in-law, our granddaughter and us. It was definitely an endurance test to sit in the midst of people who are freely profane in their talking, cynical of others and consuming great amounts of beer. We went into the afternoon and evening knowing we had to practice a grace that was supernatural for each of us.
God was definitely with us and fortunately there were no confrontations and we honestly tried hard to practice kindness to them. They know we are believers and some of them pretty much ignored us. But for God it went ok and we can only trust somehow some of them saw Jesus.
Wow Bev, that is a hug from God for sure. To be kind when being ignored. What a blessing you were to all of them.
Bev — yes, supernatural grace.
1. Thoughts on the above? I’ve never heard of David Turner. I’m very interested to hear someone who tops Keller on the subject!
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? This past week I had my 2 year old and 1 year old granddaughters for what was supposed to be 5 days that turned into 7 days. We had to do some scrambling when their parents weren’t going to be back as scheduled, but with the help of some of my daughter in law’s relatives and my work letting me get off early, the whole process of arranging care for them went very smoothly. There was plenty of opportunity for worry during this time, but I know that God is always in control and I could rest in that.
That was heroic grandmothering.
Dawn, a good reminder for me. “There was plenty of opportunity for worry during this time, but I know that God is always in control and I could rest in that.”
All that I kept thinking about was Laura and how she stepped up and has been doing this for years! She has more fortitude than I do!
Awww, Dawn, you did what you had to do, at the time. Just last night I was thinking how God has allowed me to play as an adult instead of doing too much adult “stuff!” Hahaha! They do keep you busy…♥️💃⛹️♀️🙏
Oh, Dawn! I love how you depend so deeply on God. Love this!
Monday: The Text
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
—The Nations, specifically the Gentile nations. It is a voice of rebellion.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
—They want freedom from God’s rule over their lives and want their own ways.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
—God the Father
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
—Jesus the Christ God’s own Son has been anointed as King over all.
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
—Christ the Son
2) What do you learn about this King?
—He says He is the Son of the LORD meaning(Yahweh or YHWH). And the LORD has given him all the nations to Him. The whole earth is under his power and he will crush their rebellion against him. This is actually a prophecy and it will happen at the and of the ages.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
—Ok I’m going to throw in a wrinkle here because in doing some study of this Psalm I read comments by Warren Weirsbe and he identifies the 4th Voice as the Voice of the Spirit. I have added his comments here.
WEIRSBE’S COMMENTS:
IV. The Voice of the Spirit (2:10-12)
The closing three verses are an appeal from the Spirit to the sons of men to submit themselves now to Jesus Christ. The Spirit appeals to every area of the personality:
A. The mind (v. 10).
“Be wise.. be instructed!” The “counsel of the ungodly” (PS. 1:1) has led the ungodly astray. The wisdom of the world is foolishness with God (1 Cor. 1:18-31). Our world boasts of its knowledge, and it seems that there is more knowledge than ever before, but there also seems to be less wisdom. God’s wisdom is found in God’s Word, yet the kings and rulers do not want the Word of God.
B. The heart (v. 11).
“Serve Him!” Instead of rebelling and resisting, people should bow down to Christ and serve Him. A reverential joy is what will result from yielding to Christ.
C. The will (v. 12).
“Kiss the Son” implies paying homage to Him, showing loving surrender to Him. A kiss speaks of love and reconciliation. God has been reconciled to the world by the Cross of Christ (2 Cor. 5:14-21); righteousness and peace kissed each other on the cross (Ps. 85:10). Now God is able to save lost sinners and still uphold His holy law. It is tragic that most of the people of the world are saying, “We will not have this Man to reign over us!” When Jesus returns, they will be forced to bow. before Him (Phil. 2:10-11), but then it will be too late. All God has to do is. kindle His wrath “but a little”–and sinners perish! What will it be. like when His wrath burns on this earth in great judgment?
Psalm 1 opens with a beatitude; Ps 2 closes with one: “Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.” “Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Acts 2:21).
—WEIRSBE’S identifying this last Voice as being from the Holy Spirit makes sense to me because this completes all the Voices of the Trinity speaking. First God the Father then Jesus Son and lastly the Holy Spirit.
I don’t see Turner saying it is the voice of the Psalmist as conflicting at all because we know all Scripture is Holy Spirit breathed. So either way the Holy Spirit speaks here. But like I said it makes sense to identify Him specifically.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
—He warns them to fear God and submit to His ways or they will be destroyed by the Son. But if they act wisely there is joy and reprieve for them.
4. What stands out to you and why?
—Studying Psalm 1 and Psalm 2 here has been so enlightening. They are strategically placed in the center of the Bible with what is a proper world view and an understanding of God. The comments I have read point out that Psalm 1:1 begins with a statement of blessing and Psalm 2:12 ends with one. But the blessing in both verses is conditional on a relationship with God. I went ahead and did a cursory read of Turner’s sermon and I really like what I see in his teaching. Look forward to continuing in this week’s study together.
I like Wiersbe’s identifying Him as the Spirit. Turner says simply the LORD.
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
—It’s how the world, the secular world comes unglued at the mention of Christianity and especially any acknowledgment of Jesus Christ. Turner’s observation wondering what is it about gentle Jesus, meek and mild that gets talented, able, bright people all stirred up. We do well to stop and identify what is behind such aversion to Him. These Psalms help identify why.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
—They accused him of “fostering alienation and division in society, of fueling, innovating sectarian debates”. Turner wondered why the vehement response to Jesus.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
—At this point I think we would see an explosive reaction from the secular powers that be even to the point of seeking to remove that leader from their leadership role if they in any way promoted the Word of God let alone the prophetic truth of Psalm 2:12.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
—The difference as Turner put it is simply by saying. “Psalm 1 says you need to know where you’re as an individual. Psalm 2 says you need to know where history is going.”
They are the same in that Psalm 1 begins with a blessing and Psalm 2 ends with a blessing.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
—It speaks to and involves having the one answer for human flourishing in all of history including ancient Israel, the apostles and us as being found in the promised Messiah, Jesus.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
—As I think back to the discussion we had about Kellers Interview on how sharing the gospel in post-Christian America is different because they have a different mindset. You approached those people talking about guilt and he pointed out guilt is not on their radar.
I don’t think you were wrong in your intent at all at the time but just naive about today’s mindset. And so you were mistaken in your approach. I would have been as well if it weren’t for Keller’s teaching and opening my eyes to cultural context.
—Ok I just went back and found some comments in my notes that I wrote to you after you shared your story about sharing with your pickleball friends and their negative reactions. Here they are again and I stick by them. 😊
“Wow Dee! I remember you sharing here about those talks you were going to give but hearing your story now and the fallout is so eye opening. What a hard experience but for God. How gracious of Him to bring this teaching by Keller to your attention and give you context and now a better understanding of your audience. That stands put to me. I am convinced God is still very much with you in this Pickleball experience and the lives of others. We haven’t seen the end of this mistake on your part. God will use it for good. We are always learning aren’t we?”
Thanks so much, Bev — I appreciate your honesty and kindness too!
Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) I’m not sure who wrote this Psalm but after looking it up, maybe David or Nathan? Verse 3 is the psalmist quoting the kings and rulers.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? It feels like chains because as sinners, their hearts are full of pride. They (we) are bent toward selfishness, power, and control. They don’t want to submit to God who is THE king and ruler of all. Also, since no one is holy but God, no one could obey all of scripture perfectly anyway.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? God is the voice. I love that he laughs at them! I mean, they are these little ants running around on earth with their chests puffed up thinking they have power over everyone and everything, but oh..the power and glory of God who created them and everything around above and beyond them. They have the audacity to think they are more powerful. 🙂 YET..even though I don’t verbalize it, I can so easily think I’m in control when I’m not.
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? God. YES.
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) I think it’s Jesus Christ.
2) What do you learn about this King? The nations and the earth are His. He can and ultimately will break them with a rod of iron. I see Him breaking their pride and shattering it into pieces.
This might be way off, but this is what I envision. It isn’t going to be a little bit of recognition of their pride and a slow chipping away process, it will be sudden and severe and they will be shocked. Again, this is probably a stretch, but to me, I envision the powerful rod and the potter’s vessel representing Christ’s power and majesty over all. His power reigns over their arrogance and pride, and His beauty will break their majesty into pieces.
D. (10-12)
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? He is warning them to be wise to serve the Lord with awe and trembling. Also to humble themselves before the Lord as King taking refuge in him instead of taking refuge in themselves or others. God doesn’t delight in extending His wrath for He’s merciful. I think the warning through this Psalmist is showing His mercy! His wrath can be kindled if they turn to Him, but if they refuse Him, they will have to face His anger and wrath.
So true from Rebecca:
God is the voice. I love that he laughs at them! I mean, they are these little ants running around on earth with their chests puffed up thinking they have power over everyone and everything, but oh..the power and glory of God who created them and everything around above and beyond them. They have the audacity to think they are more powerful. 🙂 YET..even though I don’t verbalize it, I can so easily think I’m in control when I’m not.
What insightful thoughts Rebecca in your answer to C 2 I love your expansive view of God. “His beauty will break their majesty into pieces”
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
That the scholars think that Psalm 1 and 2 set the scene together for the whole book of Psalms. This perked my interest as I thought of the many Psalms, written by different authors that do speak to the answer of individual issues and national issues. How to live a blessed life in both circumstances and also warning what happens if you chose your own way. I also thought of how many Psalms were written by David and how much more influential he was in Solomon’s life than I thought…thinking of the Song of Songs, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Definitely inspired by the Holy Spirit!
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity?
”Good on him, found it moving and cynicism in thinking he’s getting to his knees as elections loom.’
What intrigued Turner about the 55 intellectuals’ protest?
He wondered, what is it about Jesus, who is so meek and mild that gets to them?
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
People would be offended and angry as they don’t want to hear what God has to say. They would consider it hate speech and how dare a leader quote the Bible!
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Differences: 1 is individual and personal. 2 is public and cosmic, where history is going
“Same: 1 starts with blessed is the one.” 2 ends with “blessed are all.”
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel?
It would have helped the various kings in the struggles, wars and local difficulties that Israel were facing.
The apostles of Jesus?
That this Psalm points to the fulfillment of Jesus and they had no difficulty in seeing that.
Us?
It helps us learn of Him and gives us understand of contemporary reality.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
I am humbled just by your hearts desire to share Christ. I’m not going to give you any push back but I’m not going to condemn either…God knows the heart, yours and the women you shared with. You are a much different person than I am as Satan would have had a hay day beating me up with the outcome and I don’t know if I would have allowed myself to learn from it. Learn we must and that is how we grow. Thank you for sharing.
Really interesting what you pointed out about Solomon learning from David. Solomon is such a complex man — certainly knew what was right, but failed to do it in his youth, yet I feel like Ecclesiastes is repentance and Song of Songs his experience of intimacy with God. Can’t be sure — for God can just override with His Spirit.
And thanks for your final comments, sister.
1. Thoughts on the above: It will be interesting to have two different approaches to this Psalm. All Souls is a beautiful church with an amazing history. I am excited to get a better understanding of these Psalms!
2. How have you experienced God in your life this week? I went to an event that was a casual outdoor group, including some people I had not seen for several years. It was a joy to see them all and to observe the families together. I saw so many answers to many prayers in this large group. Many of us had prayed for one another and it was amazing to see some miracles that those of us who had prayed were aware of. Unity and joy, where they had at one time been some strife.
Glad for that fellowship for you, Patti –esp at this time.
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3)
The world/ the nation is speaking. Rebellion against the Lord.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them?
They do not understand God’s goodness and light. They (and we) resist the Truth of God, because we are self focused & earthly focused, thinking we know better what is good for us. True wisdom is pure and peaceable, full of mercy from above, but earthly wisdom is demonic. (James 3: 13-18)
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2?
The Lord God
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King?
Jesus Christ, the Son of God
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33)
Jesus
2) What do you learn about this King?
He is the Son of God; His rule will extend as far as His Father’s rule.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why?
He encourages them to show discernment and be submissive to the King of Kings. Worship Him with reverence and rejoice in Him. You will be blessed if you take refuge in Him. Yet, He is capable of wrath to those who do not honor and revere Him.
4. What stands out to you and why?
People have continued to rebels against the Lord. They (and we) seem to think we can bargain with Him, or convince Him of the importance of our needs and desires. Our world leaders continue to ignore and reject the Lord and His people.
5. What stands out and why? Psalms 1and 2 set the stage for all of Psalms. Psalm 1 blessed is the man and psalm 2 ending blessed are all. Just a wonderful reminder how much we need Him. I’d also missed the title of sermon before I have installed my king. A reminder who I am to worship and follow,
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest? Election was coming, some said good for him and others found it moving. How the talented bright people got together and got their views published, but what is it about Jesus that gets to people.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? I think there would be anger and ridicule.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? Psalm 1 is about the individual psalm 2 is the broader world view that there is a Savior for us who is enthroned as King.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? They were God’s own people and God was letting them know He was in control of things. Jesus apostles would come to understand that He is the King, God installed on His holy mountain. The wonderful fulfillment of God’s words.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts? I’m sorry you received this reaction. I think you were speaking in love and trying to explain how God takes away our guilt. What you said was out of love.
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
Turner said, “The world has been promised to Messiah whom God has enthroned as His King.” He said this is the most important piece of evidence that any human being will ever receive.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
The 55 intellectuals accused the Prime Minister of fostering alienation and division, and of fueling sectarian debates. Turner wondered, what is it about “gentle and mild Jesus” that gets people so riled up? What is it about Jesus that galvanized these people to gather together and combine their resources to write their letter of protest? What is it about Jesus that gets to people?
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
I’m not sure it would be a positive one, though because we are a nation that says we promote freedom of religion and tolerance, it should be okay. But many people are not tolerant of Christianity or anyone speaking publicly about their faith. And verse 12 specifically is a promise of God’s wrath and judgment of those who reject His Son. That would’ve been taken as very hostile words, and “how dare he say something like that?”
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Both of these psalms tell us how to have a good life in which we will flourish. Both describe what being blessed entails. They are different in that Psalm 1 speaks on a more individual level, while Psalm 2 is public and cosmic and tells us where history is going.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
This psalm may have been written to celebrate the coronations of Israel’s kings, from David onward. It speaks of how God called many of Israel’s kings His sons, and that might have given the nation courage when other nations rose up against them. The apostles would have seen Jesus as the fulfillment of this psalm. This psalm helps us to learn about Jesus and what this means for our world today; how to understand our reality.
8. Dee, I wonder if their anger was at you directly, or at God indirectly, for Him being a God who would produce guilt in a person for having sex outside of marriage? Certainly, it’s much “safer” to talk about sins like manipulation, or being lazy, or even telling a “white lie”. Right or wrong, I don’t know, but I do think it was very real and vulnerable of you to share in such a personal way.
Susan — I am just wondering if consciences have been so seared in the area of sexuality that they really do not think their behavior is wrong. I don’t know, but it was a learning experience.
5. What stands out and why?
I kept thinking. As I was reading, that as ancient as this text is, it could very well be fitting for todays world. especially today with the Jewish people continuing to be persecuted and many countries fighting, at war, who do not know God.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
He said it was both remarkable and predictable. Some thought it was good, some moving, and some thought of political since an election was coming up. Others felt it should not have been said (55 intellectuals); that it was divisive and alienated some, as well as forcing debate.
What could be so dividing about kind, and gentle Jesus? He couldn’t understand why people would think it was a bad thing. What is so threatening about Jesus?!
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
I think it’s the last verses that would upset them. They would focus on the anger, the warring and fighting.
They also wouldn’t like the middle part about the laughing and scoffing at those who question or don’t believe.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Psalms 1 is comforting, Psalms 2 is scary.
In the end, those who are with the Lord are blessed.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
The Israelites would have had hope in being saved.
The apostles would have hope in Jesus, the anointed One.
We have hope that God will prevail in the end.
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) Us maybe makes the voice of other peoples/nations.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? The people and nations set themselves against the Lord and His anointed, desiring to break God’s bonds and cords. Which implies that being for or setting themselves with the Lord felt like bondage, perhaps because they could not fill their fleshly desires and live life for themselves.
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? Believers or God’s anointed.
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? The Holy God of Israel
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) Maybe Jesus.
2) What do you learn about this King? That He is supreme and all of the earth is His to give as an inheritance.
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? To be wise, and instructed, to serve the Lord with fear, to kiss the Son.
4. What stands out to you and why? Blessed are those who put their trust in Him. It’s a reminder in my anxiety and fears, that I will be happy, if I put my trust in Him.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest? That 55 people who were talented, able, and bright would see Jesus who is meek and mild as so threatening that they needed to write a letter.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? Probable similar.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same? They both speak of those who are blessed. Psalm one references the individual and Psalm two references the public.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? Ancient Israel could be encouraged that The Lord will bring justice to the nations raging and yet is still in control. The Apostles and us could see it as a prophesy fulfilled.
8. I think of Paul in Acts 17:33. Where wisely Paul uses the culture and space where philosophers came together to discuss ‘new’ ideas’ and then uses the ‘unknown God’ alter as a springboard to share the gospel. He understood his times, the people he was talking to, and how to engage them. If I understand your situation correctly, you are saying that you recognize your approach maybe did not meet them in a way that opened doors. Seems to me it is wisdom, particularly if it is accompanied by prayer to recognize how to meet people with the gospel in their culture. If you were a missionary to a starkly different culture, it would be no different. I also think back to the podcast you posted from Tim Keller. When he talks about how he framed the gospel for the people of New York based on what they were wrestling with. How today he would frame it in language of how Jesus gives us an identity we don’t have to earn.
Good points about Paul and the Tim Keller interview, Tammy.
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
—It is the world speaking and voicing its rebellion against the LORD. Specifically against Jesus who is God’s anointed Son. Anointed by God to be King over all things and everyone.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
—The world wants nothing to do with the LORD and his anointed and hearts are rebellious against him and his ways.
Turner says “There is a profound resistance in human beings to knowing the truth and the truth that sets us free. That’s why the world is so often in the mess it is, and our own lives are so often in a mess of turmoil and confusion.”
—Simply put the world doesn’t want Jesus to be their LORD and King even though in reality he is both.
The problem is sinful hearts saying no to God.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
—Abortion. The secular world has rejected God’s commands to value life and protect the innocent. It refuses to abide by God’s rules for life and chooses to make laws of its own allowing for the taking of innocent life.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
—I don’t think I am someone who worries but when I am honest I still at times allow myself to worry about health issues and their affect on my life. I can speculate and become fearful about things that in reality may or may not happen. I see it as doubting God and his ability to always care for me and protect me. My sin is doubt!
I am reminded to take hold of and believe Philippians 4:6&7
“Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.”
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
—It is the reality “that all who do not submit themselves to the authority of Christ make war on God.” It’s a very serious and solemn problem and is addressed to all who refuse to make Jesus Lord.
What strikes me is that it is and always has been such an entrenched lie from Satan that we can and should just do our own thing with our lives.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
—This voice is the sovereign LORD.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
—Because of Who Jesus is as God’s Son anointed by him to be King over all. Jesus is the sovereign Lord of all and he brings peace and hope and all that is good into our lives when we submit to Him.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
—The fact that this all settled.
God is God and sovereign over all and he has installed and made his Son Jesus the King and Ruler over everything. Turner says “You know, in the death, resurrection, the ascension of Jesus, our coronation, the ultimate coronation, the coronation to which all these coronations of Israel looked forward. A coronation planned before the foundation of the world has already occurred. Jesus is on the throne. God himself has unilaterally appointed Christ to rule everything.”
I love the reality and finality of that truth. There is no greater security in life or death than to know Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why? What is it about gentle Jesus that gets to people? Why would they go out of their way to protest? I’ve always wondered what it is that people hate about Jesus. Why would they deny Him, and why would they want to make sure he and his people are not able to influence culture, or share with others about Him. I’ve thought maybe it’s because they want to continue in their sin because deep down they know God is holy and they would have to give it up? Not sure that is too simple or accurate, so I’m excited to dive into this.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 55 intellectuals’ protest? The various views in his congregation were, good on the Prime Minister, or he’s pandering because his election was looming, or it may have moved others. What intrigued Turner regarding the intellectuals’ protest was how gentle Jesus triggered them to go to extreme measures in opposing his comments.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12? They would get angry and go berserk!
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
The same in both Psalms
The Wicked: Wrath and destruction will come on the wicked if they continue to deny God and go their own way.
The Righteous: They will be blessed by the Lord because they take refuge in the Lord.
The Difference
Psalm 1 is addressing a person who is righteous rather than Psalm 2 where it addresses a group of righteous people.
Psalm 1 describes sinners as wicked scoffers, and Psalm 2 describes what the wicked delight in. There is a huge contrast in the ways of the wicked and the ways of the righteous in both Psalms.
Psalm 1 describes the righteous as delighting in God and His word therefore they desire to take refuge in God. Psalm 2 describes the wicked as scoffing at God and His people. They take refuge in anything, and anyone but God, but their end is destruction. The righteous will never wither, but the wicked will.
Psalm 1 describes how the righteous will grow fruit and prosper, whereas Psalm 2 warns the wicked that they will suffer God’s wrath
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us? That God has installed Jesus as ruler of all. Over all Kings and authority. He will come and bring the wicked rulers to their knees. This is GOING to happen. So when Israel and the apostles fear their kings and rulers who mock, scoff and want to kill them, they can take confidence in the Lord knowing that He will strike them down in the future and rule over all.
I also see what might help is seeing God’s mercy in this Psalm. His great Mercy toward the unrighteous and righteous is shown here. His wrath is just as passionate and swift as His love and mercy, but he’d much rather show us his tenderness, hence the warnings to the wicked in this Psalm. Both seeing His mercy and His wrath would help us to to persevere in abiding in Him.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
Hmmm…I’m the last person that should answer this because I have no idea, but I think the fact that Dee exposed it shows her authenticity, and I think that even if they were angry, seeds were planted and we don’t know how God will use it, but we do know He will. What Dee shared is way better than my attempts in the past after reading many how to witness books. lol. I had so many awkward and pushy interactions. 🙂 Thankful for God’s longsuffering!
I think our culture’s hearts are hardening in regard to guilt about sex, even though deep down a remnant may still be there. We’ve taught the culture that Christianity is all about morality more than a relationship with God who’s love will satisfy our thirst. So anything dealing with a sin might offend now a days, but I definitely don’t know what could have been said to better reach them. I think Dee’s idea of telling them about her issue with manipulation and how God rescued her via His acceptance, kindness, and in her finally resting in His control is really a good way to reach people. I also think that telling them of other ways God has loved on her, like in the God of all Comfort is huge. Maybe when we give our testimonies of before we knew Christ and after Christ we can emphasize more on how His love drew us and is still changing us? I do think people now a days are looking for faithful love and acceptance. Not sure!
Your answer to 8, Rebecca, makes me think of the Pascal quote — Make it attractive make them want to believe — and then show them it is true.
Dee, yes that is what attracted me to Christ was that my brother made Him attractive to me via Christ’s love and peace in him that I’d never seen before and he showed me it’s true by his kindness to me. He had a history of being unkind and judgmental and would never apologize, but after he came to know Christ there was a moment when he messed up and was unkind to me, but asked for my forgiveness and held my hand. THAT was the turning point for me because it solidified to me that God is real and He was changing my brother. I knew it wasn’t him, and that it had to be from his relationship with God, though I didn’t know anything about the Holy Spirit at the time.
I have to add that after I came to know Christ and years later married and had four boys, my dad who was an unbeliever at the time noticed that when I messed up with the boys with the wrong attitude, I apologized and asked for them to forgive me. He said that he’s never seen that before. His parents would never do that when they hurt him and were wrong about something. He also said to me once, “That religion sure has been good for you.” I told him, “Dad, it’s not religion, or about morality, but I have a relationship with God.” I was hoping for a response or a question as to how do you have a relationship with God, but he said, “Well, whatever, but it sure has been good for you.” (My testimony is a more dramatic one so my dad only knew me before Christ so His power in changing me was VERY noticeable to my family and everyone who really knew me.) This is why I can say, “I don’t know why He loves me, but I’m glad He does!”
Great thoughts, Rebecca! I love All of this!
3. Read Psalm 2, separating it into four stanzas.
A. (1-3)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 1? (see verse 3) The kings and rulers of the earth.
2) Why does God’s law (which means all of Scripture) feel like chains to them? Because they want to do their own thing and not what God has commanded.
B. (4-6)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 2? God
2) The world and the nations think they are the kings, but who IS the King? Jesus
C. (7-9)
1) Who is the voice behind stanza 3? (If you need help see Acts 13:33) Jesus
2) What do you learn about this King? That He has been given power over all of the earth.
D. (10-12)
1) This finally is the voice of the psalmist, whereas usually, the whole psalm is the voice of the psalmist.
2) What does the psalmist tell the kings and why? That they need to serve the Lord with fear and kiss the King of kings. Because He has the power and authority to destroy them.
4. What stands out to you and why? How we’re supposed to serve and fear Him, yet run to Him for refuge. Most of the time, those we fear and serve we tend to run away from, not to them.
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
Read or listen 10 nearly the 20 minutes mark when he says “There are the first two voices.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The voice of the world.
It’s directed against the Lord and His Anointed, the Messiah.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
Rebellion. The world doesn’t want to be shackled by religious rules and regulations
It’s at the heart of sin. The world thinks of Christianity to be chains and shackles because it will limit their freedom, reduce their autonomy and diminish their life.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
I see it in those who reject God and His teachings so they can justify living in sin. They don’t care about morality but rather liberty. They want to be the “king” of their lives.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority?
Oh yes!
How might you speak truth to your soul?
I am struggling with something right now that all I can do is ask God why, why am I resistant?
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza?
All who do not submit themselves to God make war on God.
What strikes you about this part?
That we shouldn’t be shocked that there is a profound resistance in human beings to knowing the truth and the truth that sets us free.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
The Sovereign Lord, Christ appointed.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
“The King is installed…He’s not begging men and women to make Jesus Lord. He is announcing that He personally has long settled the matter. It’s dealt with. It’s decided. It’s done.”
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
When I first read that God was laughing and scoffing I thought it insensitive of Him but I liked the reason Turner gave…”He’s laughing at the sheer absurdity of all this human rebellion, which is so pointless. These specks of human dust, asserting themselves against Him.”
I liked Turner’s explanation of laughing too — the other interpretation doesn’t sound like my Lord.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against? Voice of the world thr Lord and His anointed.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why? Deeply imbedded in each individual is refusal of God’s authority in Jesus Christ. Sin and our nature to rebel against God. By nature we don’t want to be shackled by religious rules. We want our freedom and don’t trust that Jesus yoke is light not burdensome and His laws are for our good. When I heard this, Dee, I thought of you and the women to who you made your disclosure and thought that sure explains what happened,
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this? There is a lot of resistance to God’s laws ex PRIDE and women’s reproductive rights,
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul? I think speaking the truth on love. Soul, rise up and speak what the spirit gives in issues that cause controversy.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part? All who don’t submit to the authority of Christ make war on God. What a strong statement about our refusal to surrender to God and how foolish. They are fighting against Almighty God who speaks into being.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza? Voice of sovereign Lord, Christ appointed.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace? It’s already happened Jesus is enthroned. No matter what happens in this world Jesus reigns and God is in control that is when he can scoff at the rebellious. They have no real power and cannot ultimately change anything
16. What else stands out from this section and why? He is Lord already. I can’t seem to do this section justice. Just a wonderful stirring of my spirit celebrating how fortunate we are to know our Savior and that He is Lord.
Judy — I love “it’s already happened.”
Tuesday: Introduction
Read or listen up to when he introduces the first stanza.
5. What stands out and why?
It is hard to be a public figure like the PM. You can expect to have different reviews/views/opinions/criticisms of your message.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
Some were good on it, others were moved, and others were cynical saying his words were politically motivated as the election looms. The intellectuals marshaled their views and wrote about it. And he asked, what is it in gentle Jesus that gets to people? I thought about the book “Gentle and Lowly”. Yes, Jesus is all that, but He comes also in power and truth.
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
America and Canada probably would respond the same way as the intellectuals-quoting that verse would incite division and alienation. Or that the speaker is being judgmental and better than others.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
The writer of Psalm 1 is only the psalmist whereas Psalm 2 has 4 voices including the psalmist. Both speak of the consequences of their choices.
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
This psalm would make ancient Israel, the apostles and we realize and expect there would be division, alienation, and persecution for them in the future. God’s people are looked down upon and considered bigoted, narrowminded, and such.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
Dee, I admire your courage to be vulnerable to people about your personal life. But I think you could have shared something else and some people may still have responded in anger if it struck a sensitive chord. I don’t know. And the truth is truth even when we or others may not like to hear it. For me, an honest confession from a fellow believer would bring me closer to that person and would lead me to be ready to confess my sins as well to the God we both profess to believe in.
I take some comfort in your words, Bing — and in some ways, I’m getting little 2nd chances, so we will see.
Amen to Bing, Dee. I admire your courage and your truth. (We live in an age where people do not like the truth about everything. The percentage of people that don’t listen to the news is very high.) I pray that the Lord will use this moment for His glory. I pray for second chances and for comfort for your precious heart.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The voice is the voice of the world, and their rebellion is against the Lord and His Anointed, Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
That religion will put limits on our freedom and autonomy. The very laws that God gives for our good and protection are seen by the world as chains and shackles. Turner said that this is the devil’s lie, and it works.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God – not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
I believe it is hatred of God that some people in this world can use and abuse women and children, who are made in God’s image, for horrible purposes such as sex-trafficking and pornography. Such people believe that their pleasure and profit are king, and the ones they use to achieve it are of no value other than to feed their lusts.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Yes, in fact, it happened the last two days. He wanted me to deal with something that I didn’t want to. I listen a lot to sermons by Charles Stanley, who I admire greatly for his example of a life well-lived, in faith. In a sermon I listened to this week, Dr. Stanley said that when God points out something to you, you can mark it down that He won’t go any deeper with you until you deal with it. He also always said, “Obey God and leave all the consequences to Him.” His wise words, backed by his own examples from his life, helped me to deal with what God wanted me to deal with.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
The shock that the people plot “in vain” – it’s all utterly senseless. Turner pointed out why would those 55 intellectuals, who owe their very being to God, be so resentful at the assertion of Jesus’ name in the public square? Another shock is that all who do not submit to Jesus make war on God. Just the thought of warring with God is shocking because no one can win against God. It does strike me that we can be so indignant and resentful of the God who made us and our world and gave us the beauty of nature, and food, and everything to sustain us and also just to give us things to enjoy.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
The voice of the Sovereign Lord, and He is laughing (at human rebellion and aggression against Him).
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
No matter what is going on in our world, no matter which world leaders are plotting and planning, God isn’t perturbed. He’s not laughing because it’s funny, but, as Turner puts it, it’s like a flea attacking an elephant. God has already installed His King, and no one can change that fact.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
I heard a great quote recently, “Adults inform – children explain”. God isn’t explaining anything, not trying to convince people to make Jesus Lord. He’s simply announcing what He’s already decided and done. “The foundation of our world is in a quiet throne room” (Turner quoted someone) Our world is anything but quiet, but it’s comforting to think that in heaven, it is.
I’m pondering your quote! 🙂
8. This question has really made me think!
I guess I would want to know how you “framed” it, and who was the audience? To a younger crowd I might say, “Although it is acceptable in this day, in society, that couples live together/ have sex before marriage, it wasn’t always that way. And in the Bible, it is not that way. We are not a perfect people.” Then I would talk about your SOS writings, because even though I don’t understand the poetry, the sentiment is absolutely beautiful…how the groom waits for the bride, and how lovely their waiting turns out to be for them. I would tell them of Jesus being the bridegroom and such. It’s so beautiful. I would explain it as being a “gift” to their potential spouse. Then, I suppose you might say how disappointed you were (?) that you weren’t able to fulfill the gift for your fiancée. If you keep it about yourself, then I think they would not be angry 🤷🏻♀️.
Personally, I think they didn’t want to hear the truth. They were wrong. I agree with your church members! No one, these days wants to take responsibility for their actions. BTW, it’s much harsher punishment in other religions for breaking this “commandment.”
Hmmmm, Laura — that would have been an interesting approach. And even though you don’t like poetry, I think the Lord is speaking to you through it!
Thursday:
The Messiah
Listen or read up to nearly 26 and “Who can stand in the day?”
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
—The New Testament clearly records how God the Father speaks at the baptism and the transfiguration of Jesus and says this is my Son. Then in Acts 13:33 the Apostle Paul is preaching and affirms that God fulfilled in Christ at his resurrection what the Psalmist says by quoting Psalm 2:7 “The king proclaims the Lord’s decree: “The Lord said to me, ‘You are my son. Today I have become your Father.”
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
—Verse 8 says God gave Jesus the nations as his inheritance, the whole earth as his possession. Literally everything and everyone. Turner says “The Father tells him to ask for them. And he does. And the intercession of Jesus, that asking by Jesus, is quite literally the hope of the world. He is the way, the truth, and the life for humanity.”
The richness of this truth from this Psalm is a good example to me of why we need to study the Psalms and understand the depth of their meanings.
—It took the Cross. It all culminates at the death and then resurrection of Jesus as the perfect Son of God sacrificing his very life’s blood for our sin. It was a very high price that Jesus paid to become humanity but as Turner said “Jesus faced the cross with all the anger and the nails and the opposition and the abuse and the separation from his Father.” In doing so God gave Him all authority and the nations as his own. Out of that has come the Church, the body of Christ which has grown out of every nation on earth and no one and nothing can stop it. It will continue to grow as the inheritance of Jesus until He comes back. Oh “Come Quickly Lord Jesus!”
19. What stands out from this section and why?
—All of it!
It is just so rich with Christ and the truth of our giving God. Turner says “And in the decree of God, he’s been given something by his Father. And this is a Father who delights to give. Think of the things the Father has given us. He’s given us his Son. He’s given us grace. He’s given us eternal life. This is a Father who gives.” And God gave us to his very own Son as an inheritance. It is all beyond amazing.
Oh and Thank you Dee for including that wonderful rendition of the Battle Hymn of The Republic. What a wonderful reminder of biblical truths about Christ in the words of the song and a proper perspective of the kingdom (nation so to speak) of Christ the King that we are privileged to be part of. It far supersedes all earthly kingdoms and nations.
I’m glad you liked that rendition of the Battle Hymn. Growing up we sang it in public school — but I didn’t get it. 🙂
Thursday: The Messiah
Listen or read up to nearly 26 and “Who can stand in the day?”
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
In verse 7, He, God the Father, said to Me, the Anointed One is the Me, You are My Son. Turner says these “words quoted as if to underline how special Jesus was at His baptism, at His transfiguration, and then in Acts 13:33, of His resurrection.”
18. What is the scope of His reign?
In verse 8, Jesus only had to ask and the Father will give Him the nations as His inheritance and the whole earth as His possession.
What did it take for this to happen?
It took Jesus to suffer and die on the cross and be separated from His Father.
19. What stands out from this section and why?
I love how personal Turner makes the death of Jesus on the cross. Who did He have in mind while He hung on the cross? You and me…we’re part of all His inheritance if we’re His.
Also, the fact that “the Lordship, the rule of Christ and the fulfill of this promise is the answer to aggressive secularism, to militant Islam and to the iron grip of Buddhist ideology.” Rulers of atheist countries or anyone trying to obliterate Christianity, don’t have a chance against the Kingship of Jesus Christ!
Amen, Sharon! to your answer to 19!
Who did He have in mind? You and me. That is beautiful.
I liked this too, Sharon. “the Lordship, the rule of Christ and the fulfill of this promise is the answer to aggressive secularism, to militant Islam and to the iron grip of Buddhist ideology.”
5. What stands out and why?
The problem then and now is: All who do not submit themselves to the Authority of Christ, make war on God. They will admire Jesus as a moralist, a philosopher, a teacher, but not their KING. They do not want His Name in the public square with the world leaders, politicians, opinion formers, culture shapers, casual religious people: church goers, decent Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and internet influencers. He is Lord already, they just do not want to live under His authority: the opinion of the world cannot change the fact that He is Lord.
4. What were the different reactions to the Prime Minister’s Easter comments in favor of Christianity? What intrigued Turner about the 5 intellectuals’ protest?
They resented the Name of Jesus being used in the public speech. Turner said “What is it about Jesus that gets to people?”
5. What do you think the reaction would be in America or Canada if a leader quoted Psalm 2:12?
Many Christians would like it, but the influencers and politicians and most news sources would come unglued and find a million reason why the person who spoke should be removed from office.
6. What is different between Psalms 1 and 2 and what is the same?
Psalm 1 is personal and individual. Psalm 1: Where are you going as a individual. Psalm 2 is public. You need to know where history was and where it is going to have a world view. Both have blessings; Psalm 1 begins with ” How blessed is the man …..his delight ins in the law of the Lord.”…… and Psalm 2 ends with “How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!”
7. How would this psalm have helped ancient Israel? The apostles of Jesus? Us?
Ancient Israel would have been encouraged and given hope. The apostles were committed to Jesus and followed Him, but still did not totally understand what kind of King He was until after the Resurrection. Today, Christians vary in how they read scripture. Those who are committed to Christ totally, still fall into sin, but have an understanding that we will (as Dee was) often be rejected when we speak God’s truth. People want to find their own truth in the Bible, which is just another way of creating their own Jesus. Jesus in Lord. He Word is God’s law. We will sin, but we have a Savior and we repent to Him. Many Christians feel that is too much to live up to, as we have to give up some of our freedoms if He is to be our King.
8. When we discussed this psalm in our church, I relayed my regret at how I had shared at a local gathering that Steve and I were intimate before our wedding day, and I was burdened down with guilt, but when I came to Christ, He took that guilt from me. I was trying to show them I wasn’t holier than they were, but how God could help them with their guilt for whatever. When I looked at the faces of those I had tried so hard to befriend, I felt I had made a colossal mistake, for I saw anger. They didn’t feel premarital sex was wrong and saw me as moralistic and judgmental. That might not have been their reaction if I had confessed my sin of manipulation. I got a big push-back from our church, feeling I had done the right thing. But they are an older group, and I think that is why they reacted that way. I realize most of you are past fifty too, but I’d be interested in your reaction. If I were to do it again, I would have handled it differently — and I think I’m right. Your thoughts?
This is sad and upsetting, but not surprising. I love what all the others wrote about this. I do feel that God will still use this for His good, Dee. (As, Bev mentioned) When we bear our hearts, especially with a tender experience like you did, it demonstrates your great love and respect for the Lord and His ways. The audience was not ready for that, because they do not see Jesus that way yet. It is a way of life that they think is no longer relevant….( along with lots of other rules)…and that is the direction of our world. As Turner said, the teachings of Jesus were to make our lives better; to make us better disciples. We just don’t want Jesus to change, or be in charge of, our life style and habits. We want Him to fit into the lifestyle that we choose. They see His ways as a small thing, yet in the heart of a Christian, His ways are the best way…it is a huge thing. I love that you were brave to do that. We live with a culture that is what Tim Keller described, as in New York….
Thanks, Susan. It’s comforting that He is the Redeemer, even of our mistakes!
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33). He is referred to by God as Son.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen? He was given the nations. His death, the ridicule, His separation from God as He hung on the cross and His resurrection.
19. What stands out from this section and why? That Jesus asked for the nations and now intercedes for them and that hope of the world and life for humanity. The awe of all that Jesus still does for us. Oh what a Savior, isn’t He wonderful,
Wednesday: The Nations and The Lord
Read or listen 10 nearly the 20 minutes mark when he says “There are the first two voices.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The world and their rebellion is against the Anointed One, the Messiah, the Lord, Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
The little word, “against” saying “No” to God and refusing to submit to His authority
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
The people want to be their king. God can be our “man upstairs” and do what we want him to do for us. But He as my King? No way. I want to be my king. And if we do have a king, he has to be king on our terms.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Today, I struggled with impatience with somebody, and I had these really bad, unloving thoughts about the person. I wrestled with God asking Him why does this person irks me so often. I did not want to acknowledge my pride and selfishness and resisted what ugliness God was revealing to me about myself.
I am telling my soul to be honest about my sinful thoughts, confess them to God, and change my attitude. I need to come to God and ask him to “create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.”
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
The psalmist’s point is that all who do not submit themselves to the authority of Christ make war on God. This is more serious to me than it used to be.
I know of a few people who think this way: “Christianity will somehow limit my freedom. It’ll somehow reduce my autonomy. It’ll somehow diminish my life. It’s the devil’s most successful lie ever that what God does for our well-being, that he gives us for our protection, the laws he prescribes that are for our good, we regard as chains to bind us.”
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
the voice of the sovereign LORD, Christ appointed
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
The LORD is sovereign so nothing that happens here escapes His eyes and hands. He will bring about His righteousness and justice.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
The one enthroned in heaven laughs. The LORD scoffs at them. No, he’s laughing at the sheer absurdity of all this human rebellion, which is so pointless. He’s laughing at these specks of human dust, asserting themselves against him. The King is installed. Keep your eyes there.”
So Bing:
I am telling my soul to be honest about my sinful thoughts, confess them to God, and change my attitude. I need to come to God and ask him to “create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.”
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against?
The “voice of the world,” and they are directing their anger towards the LORD and His anointed One, specifically Jesus.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why?
We have a bend to disobey God. We refuse God’s authority through Jesus. We don’t want to follow rules and regulations. People think Christianity will limit their freedom and fun.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
This brings to mind the worldly idea that being a Christian means to hate others. I am reminded of it when I see a colleague with a sticker on her water bottle that says, “Love is Love.” That suggests that I don’t love if I don’t agree with the idea of men loving men and women loving women. The world has twisted the idea of Christianity because it hates the truth, that women and men are the correct union. He made Adam and Eve to be the “standard,” to procreate, to be our model for generations. God requires we behave and follows His Way, and the world doesn’t like the rules so it changes them. However, it is my experience that when the world goes the way of the world, people are miserable.
Yes, Laura, so true. Takes me back to Psalm 1 and how God wants us to thrive and going against Him doesn’t work.
I agree, Laura. Those who go against God’s ways so seem to be miserable and sad. Many right now are flaunting sin and denying God. It has made studying Psalm 2, especially verses 3-5, so meaningful to me, at this time in History, when the world and our country seem to be turning away so proudly from God and His Truth.
9. Who is the voice in the first stanza and who is their rebellion directed against? The world is rebelling against God.
10. What is the world’s attitude toward the Messiah and Christianity in general? Why? You might be a nice guy or philosopher but we don’t want a king. We don’t your rule/authority in our lives.
11. In Keller’s sermon, he said the world hates God — not a vague idea of God, but a God who wants to be their King. Can you give an example of this?
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul? Soul, this area where you desire to have your own way, is a place where your flesh deceives you. What feels like control is actually deception, it a false thing in your right hand. It will not give you what it promises you it will eat you whole.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part? That God laughs. It gives me a pleasant sense of ‘yeah that my powerful God’.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza? God the Father.
15. Why should this give confidence and peace? He has fulfilled His will and installed His king.
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33) Because Jesus is the Son He has begotten.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen? All of heaven and earth. Christ’s sacrifice.
19. What stands out from this section and why? The reminder that Jesus gave His life and suffered His death, because He had me on His heart that I have been given to Him. Once again that thought that I am His, is peace.
“He had me in mind.” So true.
Friday: The Psalmist
Listen or read to the end.
20. What stands out to you and why?
There is so much, but the words “be wise,” stood out to me as this is ultimately to us. We must be wise and listen to warnings, serve the Lord with reverent fear, rejoice with trembling and submit to Jesus Christ. Being wise is remembering that He is Lord and I am not! As Turner says, “we’re all in a way like little kings, little rulers who like to call their own shots, make their own decisions and be in charge of our own destiny.” It’s foolish to think that we’re in charge but why is it so hard to give Him the authority over our lives? For me, it has to be a daily (sometimes moment by moment) submission to His will. May I be reminded that “I can’t flee from Jesus but I can flee to Him and what better place to be than in the “safety and refuge of Jesus.”
Can’t flee from but can flee to. Such a good statement.
I love this, Sharon! It is so very true! May I be reminded that “I can’t flee from Jesus but I can flee to Him and what better place to be than in the “safety and refuge of Jesus.”
Thursday: The Messiah
Prepare your heart with this:
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Listen or read up to nearly 26 and “Who can stand in the day?”
I love the rendition of this song. Thanks for sharing this, Dee.
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
Jesus being raised…as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.”
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
He reigns over all nations and the ends of the earth. God the Father commissioned the Son and was given the power to be so through His resurrection from the dead. The nations and the ends of the earth were God’s gift to His Son, Jesus.
19. What stands out from this section and why?
Jesus has asked all nations to be his inheritance including the rebellious ones. So there is hope for us who submit to him. But…There’s an uncomfortable fierceness about the alternative, which unsettles us, if we’re honest. There’s an amnesty for rebels going on which will not last forever. There’s a time coming for a calling to account that is unavoidable when his enemies will be crushed. And that’s a solemn word. And Revelation 19:15 quotes this verse as it speaks solemnly and shockingly of the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God, actioned by the one who is called King of Kings and LORD of LORDs.
Friday: The Psalmist
Listen or read to the end.
20. What stands out to you and why?
It is foolish to stand against the authority of the Lord.
Be wise. I am not the ruler of my little world. I am not in charge of my destiny as well as those I love the most.
The mark of the wise person is that they can listen to warnings. Unwise people don’t listen to warnings. serve the LORD with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling. Verse 12, Kiss the Son, in homage and submission and affection.
Saturday:
22. What is your take-a-way and why?
This prayer is my takeaway. So many grievous things are going on in the world. I need to remember that Jesus is LORD and King.
LORD, make the glory and beauty of Jesus sweet to us. Deepen our love for you and our will to serve you. Help us to buy into all you disclose of yourself here in Psalm 2. Give us the courage and confidence that you are the LORD of history and that the nations. Be our refuge and our security, now and always for your glory. Amen.
Amen to your prayer, Bing.
Amen to Dee! This is powerful and I need it right now. LORD, make the glory and beauty of Jesus sweet to us. Deepen our love for you and our will to serve you. Help us to buy into all you disclose of yourself here in Psalm 2. Give us the courage and confidence that you are the LORD of history and that the nations. Be our refuge and our security, now and always for your glory. Amen.
12. When you are still before the Lord, does He show you an area where you resist His authority? How might you speak truth to your soul?
Yea indeed! I have no self-control sometimes. It comes and goes. I know what I need to do, yet I don’t do it. I am in one of those times right now. I know that He provides all and I will not lack what I need to survive. However, I am like Paul with his thorn, begging for God to take it away. But Paul said it reminded him of not becoming too proud. Christ said His power works best in weakness. So Paul “boasted” in his weakness so that Christ’s power would prevail. Hmmmm…..
Oh Lord, thank You for being present from before the beginning. In Bible stories we learn how You helped your obedient people, in all circumstances, out of their troubles. Some had to wait a life time, but You were there. I remember that, and have hope that You can help me too.
13. What does Turner say is the “shock” of the stanza? What strikes you about this part?
There is a reference to Jesus being crucified. If you turn to Acts 23:4 you see that the apostles talk about Psalm 2 and how it foreshadowed what actually happened in their day…government rising up and killing the anointed One. It was comforting to them to know that this was the plan from the beginning. God was in charge.
I think an interesting point is that he says if you don’t submit to the authority of Christ then you “make war” with God.
14. Who is the voice of the second stanza?
God
15. Why should this give confidence and peace?
Everything is in place. Everything is and has been set, for all of the ages. God is in control and it’s a done deal.
16. What else stands out from this section and why?
One day we will all bow to Jesus, willingly, or not. It’s sobering and sad because some of my family won’t concede. They have let the world take them over and they are blind to the truth. Help my family members dear Lord. 🙏🙏
22. What is your take-a-way and why?
The reminder to run to the Lord, He is my port of safety.
Amen, Tammy!
22. What is your take-a-way and why?
This is a powerful Psalm and it took on new meaning for me. We know that God is in charge! I love Turner’s wonderful sermon and the rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic too. This was a very difficult week for me, where I felt much sorrow. I needed this Psalm to remind me to keep me eyes on the Lord! This is His world! I am committed to Him, in loneliness and sorrow! In my devotional by Oswald Chambers there was a post titled “Receiving one’s self in the fires of sorrow. ” These quotes of his, help me turn back to the Savior. “Sorrow is one of the biggest facts in life; it is no use saying sorrow ought not to be. Sin and sorrow and suffering are, and it is not for us to say that God has made a mistake in allowing them. ” “If you receive yourself in the fires of sorrow, God will make you nourishment for other people. ” Lord help me to truly give myself to You and to turn my eyes to You every minute of the day! I Praise Your Name, no matter my circumstances.
El Roi=The God of Seeing; El Shaddai= God Almighty; Jehovah Rapha=The God who Heals; Abba=Father Elohim=Creator.
Patti, your post here brought so much comfort to me for my “sorrows” this week. Your loss is so recent and raw and I thank God for you and His overflowing grace to you in the midst of it all. Indeed what O. Chambers said is true: your sorrow at this time has nourished us here. Thank you for sharing from your heart.
So good from Oswald Chambers which helped Patti this week:
“Sorrow is one of the biggest facts in life; it is no use saying sorrow ought not to be. Sin and sorrow and suffering are, and it is not for us to say that God has made a mistake in allowing them. ” “If you receive yourself in the fires of sorrow, God will make you nourishment for other people. ”
I want to add this as an addition to my take away:
For the last 2 weeks, our community has been gearing up for the possibility of flooding due to the torrential rains in IA. Farmers were moving equipment and grain to safer, higher ground. This week I was prompted to share these verses with my Bible Study group at church. I thought it tied up with our Psalm 2 study here in a special way. Several of us prayed at 2 appointed hours. I rejoice in how the Lord is answering our prayers. Some farms have already received some flooding but not as much as we expected and feared:
Psalm 29:10-11
The Lord sits enthroned over the flood; the Lord is enthroned as King forever.11 The Lord gives strength to his people; the Lord blesses his people with peace.
Thank you for sharing this Psalm, Bing. I will be praying for your area to be protected, in this time of flooding. These rains certainly caused craziness in Minneapolis, where I grew up.
20. What stands out to you and why? You escape from God by escaping to Him, you flee from God’s anger by hiding in His mercy That wrath is gone forever. There is no better place to be than the safety and refuge of Jesus Because there is no better place than to be in Christ
21. Now see if you can pray this psalm for the world leaders and for yourself. Lord, what fools we are as nations and individuals when we think we can do life without You. You are all knowing and all powerful and know the beginning and the end. You have given us Christ as King and Savior. Nations and people be aware! Adore and worship the one true King. Blessed are the ones who take refuge in Him.
Amen to your prayer, Judy.
22. What is your take-a-way and why? Too slow down and appreciate the beauty in the psalm I have not one creative gene in me So I’m thankful to understand how this psalm flows and the voices contained within it
Wow! The Battle Hymn of the Republic! So good! I love:
“As he died to make us holy, let us die to make men free…”
Listen or read up to nearly 26 and “Who can stand in the day?”
17. How do we know this is the voice of the Messiah? (See Acts 13:33)
It says that the “…king says…the LORD says you are my Son…I am your Father.”
Acts 13:33 refers to Psalms 2:7, saying that it says the same thing, but for modern times.
18. What is the scope of His reign? What did it take for this to happen?
All the nations, to the ends of the Earth.
He died for us.
19. What stands out and why?
160 million Christians in China???!!! Thank you missionaries!
20. What stands out to you and why?
We take refuge in God. Don’t run away. We find our safety in Him. That is a comfort!
21. Now see if you can pray this psalm for the world leaders and for yourself.
Our Lord, thank You for being our safety net in times when we are afraid. Help the leaders of the world see You and run to You, not to warring or evil. Help the basic people, the citizens, to lift up genuine, God-fearing leaders to run their countries. Allow them to see that You are their only hope. Rest on their hearts and soften them to others. I pray in Your Holy Name. Amen.
Good prayer, Laura.