Congratulations! You have studied 1/2 of the challenging book of Revelation!
You deserve a cheer!
So many, including me, for decades, avoided this book for deep study for it just seemed too hard. Yet I was missing a blessing. We did it with the help of His Spirit, one another, and godly preachers and teachers.
You deserve a cheer!
This week we will review what we have studied in Revelation 1-11 with the help of a great video three of you sent me – two silent followers, and our own Bing. On Wednesday, Paige Benton Brown will live stream her first lecture on Romans, which we will be watching in preparation for next week. You can watch her live or watch her on you-tube for the six days following. But questions will begin next Sunday, so take good notes whenever you listen, remembering that when the clock strikes midnight the following Tuesday, Paige removes her video and, just like Cinderella, you need to have accomplished your purpose! Some of you may want to do the whole Revelation review (which is short) before you watch Paige — but up to you!
We are taking a “Romans break” until mid November, but we will simultaneously review Revelation so that we don’t lose momentum. I am asking God to show me how to link Romans to Revelation each week, and will give our Revelation’s group review questions in purple. Romans only students can ignore the purple questions or plan to join us for the second half of our Revelation journey, beginning in November.
Here is our review video for Revelation 1-11.
#20 Mid-Review of Revelation Word
Sunday: Apocalyptic Literature
- What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
- Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
- There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
G. K. Beale says that the usual dictum in Scripture is to interpret it literally unless forced to interpret it symbolically, in Revelation this is turned on its head. With apocalytpic literature you should interpret symbolically unless forced to interpret literally.
4. What do you think about the above?
Monday: The Churches
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
Tuesday: The Temple, Scroll, Lion and Lamb
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll?
B. Why does he weep?
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
Wednesday: Sevens — and The Seals (And Paige is live today)
Today at 10 Central Paige will stream her first teaching from her church: https://westendcc.org/paigebrown After this you can find this lesson on You-Tube by googling Paige Benton Brown Romans. It comes down Tuesday night. The questions on her teaching, along with some review questions for Revelation, will begin next Sunday.
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09
A. What do you learn about the number 7?
B. What reasons does he give to support that these 3 series of 7’s occur simultaenously rather than linearly?
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering?
D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!)
Thursday: The Trumpets
7. Listen from 8:10 to 9:52
A. How do the trumpet judgments parallel the plagues of Exodus?
B. How is the response of the people similar?
C. If you interpret the vision of the temple and the outer courts and the trampling symbolically, what does it mean?
Friday: Winning Through Losing
8. Listen from 9:53 to the end
A. Why does he interpret the two witnesses as God’s people rather than two literal men?
B. What is the mission of the church — and how is this the way Jesus conquered?
Saturday:
9. What is your take-a-way and why?
10. Have you started listening to Paige? What are your thoughts?
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Sunday: Apocalyptic Literature
What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
There is a spiritual battle going on but despite its magnitude, we can participate from a stand of victory that Jesus has already won for us through the Cross. And to borrow the words from Matt, we have a high calling to be part of it as “spirit-filled continually repentant prophetic witnesses”.
Dee, I do love the humor of the Cinderella illustration. A “fortunate stroke (pardon the pun!) of serendipity”, indeed! It is one of my favorite fairy tale stories growing up-a happy ending which is an echo of the eternal joy that awaits us as sealed, protected, and called people of God. Looking forward to listening to Paige.
I also like how you have broken down the video into short segments and a few questions to go with each. A testament to the faithfulness of God who provides order and clarity in our undertakings.
Yes, a big cheer to all of us. I have been blessed by this in-depth study of the first half of Revelation. God is true to His promises!
Thanks so much, Bing. As the eldest here, I think, I remember the excitement of the first full length Disney Cartoon — it was Cinderella and I was mesmerized. Still so good.
I remember that too. My favorite. My oldest daughter’s favorite.
1. What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
What has stood out to me is that Revelation is not a book that should ignite fear or confusion. While it is still hard for me to understand, it is the same story of God’s love and rescue, protection, redemption for His people.
2. Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
“Apocalypse recounted a prophet’s symbolic dreams and visions that revealed God’s heavenly perspective on history and current events so that the present could be viewed in light of history’s final outcome….Jewish apocalypse is communicated through symbolic imagery and numbers.”
3. There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
Yes, it is helpful to see that from the start it points to metaphoric language.
G. K. Beale says that the usual dictum in Scripture is to interpret it literally unless forced to interpret it symbolically, in Revelation this is turned on its head. With apocalytpic literature you should interpret symbolically unless forced to interpret literally.
4. What do you think about the above?
Beale’s comment helps in knowing how to look at Revelation, not literally but symbolically.
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
We are the 7 churches. There is something we can learn from each of their struggles. God is gracious to give rebuke and the opportunity to repent, with a reward for those who remain faithful.
He does not promise to keep us physically safe, though He does protect, but He promises to keep us spiritually safe if we are in Him.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
Weaknesses: apathy due to wealth and affluence; morally compromised; practicing rituals; pagan worship
Strength: Some remained faithful to Jesus and were suffering persecution
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
The churches are forced to choose between compromise or faithfulness in the coming tribulation. Jesus promises a reward for all who conquer and remain faithful to Him.
Great to have you here for the summary. Know you are swamped, but so nice to see you. And yes, hard to understand, but we are gleaning!
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll?
John sees a vision of God surrounded by creatures and elders, representing all creation and human nations. They are praising, giving honor and allegiance to the one true Creator God.
In God’s hand is a scroll sealed with seven wax seals. The scroll symbolizes the message of the Old Testament prophets and the sealed scroll of Daniel’s visions.
B. Why does he weep?
He realizes that no one can open the scroll.
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
Instead of seeing a victorious Lion King, John sees a slain lamb. Jesus’ victory over His enemies comes through His sacrifice. Jesus’ resurrection means that His death was not defeat, but His victory as King.
John’s vision ends with the Lamb sitting beside the One on the throne, worshipped as the One true Creator and Redeemer. The slain Lamb begins to open the scroll.
What stands out to me: the role of the church in the end times(which means now) is to be the witness to the world, to love others and to serve, even when it is very difficult, and to be a sacrifice, following Jesus’ example, who died as a sacrificial Lamb. As we die to self and even suffer, we are drawing closer to Jesus. We are in a spiritual battle, but we know the outcome, for He has conquered sin and paid the price.
There are mysteries explained but our interpretation may be differing or similar, yet our role as witnesses is the important thing.
That is such a big take-a-way for me, too Shirley. As scoffing increases it is easy to get timid, but we must not!
Thank you for sharing this thought, Shirley. Such important points! I have been thinking of that song “The Battle Belongs to the Lord” ever since I saw it on this blog. It is so true. It is so clear that the battle is escalating. I agree with you that our role as witnesses is such an important thing. How I pray for the strength and wisdom to be a strong and steady witness for the Lord. I want more of Jesus and less of me.
You are so funny Dee! Cinderella indeed!
1. What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
A big truth is that we, as Christians, cannot be wimpy. We will struggle and need to stand firm in our faith. No lukewarm!
2. Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
Firstly, I’ve never heard that there is confusion as to who wrote this book. I’ve always heard it was the beloved disciple John.
The literature is called Apocalyptic and that means prophetic. John has a dream and the prophetic nature of the dream was a message from God.
3. There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
Knowing this makes me think that the book is definitely symbolic, as metaphors have another meaning for something.
That was the only thing I didn’t like about the video. I believe the evidence is overwhelming it is the apostle John!
I thought that was strange too, Dee. Thank you for mentioning it.
Me, too, Laura, Dee, and Patti. I always have thought it was the apostle John! Hah, I may have to write to Bill Mackey, who I think narrates that video and ask him why he thought so.
Do — let us know, Bing! 🙂
I sent an email to Dr. Mackie’s church to inquire on how to get a hold of him. I couldn’t find a “contact us” section on the Bible Project website. We will see.
Bing and all, I just wanted to jump in here on the authorship. If you watch the Bible Project for the book of John they have the author either being John of Zebadee, which is the disciple or John the Elder, who was from Jerusalem.I think that’s the same in Revelation and they don’t have any real verification of which one actually wrote it so therefore don’t want to be dogmatic. I think that whichever one wrote these books is the same person. It’s interesting to me how sets of 7 show up in each book.
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
The seven churches vision comes from the prophet Zechariah chapter 4. They represent us today!
Some of the churches were caught up in the world and acting out accordingly. Others were trying to be faithful to Jesus. Their faithfulness caused them to be persecuted.
Those who endure will be rewarded with a life eternal when the marriage of heaven and earth finally occurs.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
Some churches were apathetic, some were morally compromised, some were affluent, others were trying to live in the Roman culture and still live as Christians. Some were being faithful and persecuted. Jesus warns that things might get worse. They were tempted to deny Jesus.
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
Will the Christians endure and be rewarded? Will they inherit the new earth? Why is faithfulness to Jesus called a conquering? This is the set up for the rest of the book.
1. What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
Revelation is the story of the entire Bible. It is a Jewish Apocalypse and communicates through symbolic imagery and numbers. John references Old Testament stories from Daniel, Ezekiel, Zechariah and other sources. It is layer upon layer of history, which has occurred. It will continue to occur and intensify as we draw closer to the end of history.
2. Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
Revelation is Apocalyptic literature. A type of Jewish literature like: Ezekiel, Daniel, Ezra and Enoch. It recounts a prophet’s symbolic dreams and visions that reveal God’s perspective on history and current events, so that the present could be viewed in the light of history’s final outcome.
3. There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
The title “Revelation” and the opening verse seem to imply that God is revealing to John what must take place soon. It is communicated to John by an angel sent from God. Prophecy: a word from God, spoken through a prophet to God’s people, usually to warn or comfort them in a time of crisis. A prophecy, stands in the tradition of the Biblical prophets and is bringing a message to a climax.
G. K. Beale says that the usual dictum in Scripture is to interpret it literally unless forced to interpret it symbolically, in Revelation this is turned on its head. With apocalyptic literature you should interpret symbolically unless forced to interpret literally.
4. What do you think about the above? Through this study, I am seeing Revelation more and more symbolically. The number “7”, symbol of completeness (based on the Seven day Sabbath cycle in the Old Testament. The number seven is woven into every part of this book. Jewish Apocalypses are communicated through symbolic imagery and numbers.
Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
Apocalyptic means revelation and is a type of Jewish literature like Ezekiel, Daniel, 1 Enoch? 4 Ezra). It talks about symbolic visions that reveal a heavenly perspective on history considering its final outcome. It is a prophecy, God’s word through a prophet, and brings OT prophecy to its climax.
There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
Yes. Metaphor means “a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.” Oxford dictionary deiknyō means means to show, expose to the eyes; as a metaphor, it means to give evidence or proof of a thing.
G. K. Beale says that the usual dictum in Scripture is to interpret it literally unless forced to interpret it symbolically, in Revelation this is turned on its head. With apocalyptic literature you should interpret symbolically unless forced to interpret literally.
4. What do you think about the above?
The only way so far that I could understand the book of Revelation is to interpret it symbolically. It would be too confusing for me if I jump or go back and forth from literal to symbolic as I read the book.
1. What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
I also avoided an in-depth study, or look, at Revelation because I thought it was too hard, too confusing, and too sci-fi-futuristic to understand! One big truth I have learned so far is that the tribulation actually began after the death and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, so that the tribulation is not some future event that is yet to come. I have also learned that we are marked spiritually as belonging to God, and that our protection may not be physical protection, but we are always spiritually protected.
I love those same two things, Susan!
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
I.) I thought it was interesting that each of the letters was addressed “to the angel of the church” and that there were 8 parts in each letter. 1.) Instructions to write to the angel of the church 2.) Statement by Jesus in each letter, which usually describes a problem in the church 3.) A section of commendation for the positive aspects of the church (if there were some) 4.) Accusation section: but, I have this against you….what the church was doing that was sinful or lacking 5.) Call for each church to change or repent 6.) Statement of what the Lord will do – an encouragement if you stay on a good path or a warning if you do not change bad habits 7.) A promise to him who overcomes ~ spiritual protection 8.) An invitation: He who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit is saying
II.) The church of Philadelphia seemed to be the most sound in doctrine and the strongest, yet they struggled. The rest were a mixture of good qualities and negative qualities~ Laodicea seemed the most affluent and apathetic.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
Some of the churches were apathetic due to their affluence. Some were morally compromised; taking ritual meals, acting and living in pagan and immoral ways; some remained faithful to Jesus, but were suffering persecution for it. A tribulation is on the churches, causing them to choose between compromising their values and faithfulness to Jesus. Ephesus: Doctrinally sound, but self centered and lacking compassion. Smyrna: vibrant but fearful; Pergamum: witnessing, yet undiscerning; Thyatira: Loving, but over tolerant; Sardis: church of the whitewash, lazy; Philadelphia: Struggling, but strong; Laodicea: Affluent, apathetic
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
The opening vision sets up the main tension for the rest of the book: Jesus calls the churches to faithfulness so they can conquer and overcome. The temptation is to deny Jesus to avoid persecution or to join the spirit of the Roman Age. Those who are faithful and conquer will receive a heavenly reward ~ to inherit the new world that God has in store. Each reward is drawn from the final vision in Revelation of the marriage of heaven and earth.
This last sentence made me think of The Song of Songs study. Christians are the brides of Christ; Faithful souls who conquer and overcome will partake in that marriage of heaven and the new earth. What a glorious day that will be!
Such an excellent review, Patti. And this surely sounded like today — the part I have in bold:
The opening vision sets up the main tension for the rest of the book: Jesus calls the churches to faithfulness so they can conquer and overcome. The temptation is to deny Jesus to avoid persecution or to join the spirit of the Roman Age. Those who are faithful and conquer will receive a heavenly reward ~ to inherit the new world that God has in store. Each reward is drawn from the final vision in Revelation of the marriage of heaven and earth.
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09
A. What do you learn about the number 7?
Each cycle of 7 depicts God’s kingdom and justice coming to earth as it is in Heaven.
B. What reasons does he give to support that these 3 series of 7’s occur simultaneously rather than linearly?
John has woven the sevens together and each series of seven culminates in the final judgment, with matching conclusions—making it likely that they refer to the same period of time between Jesus’ resurrection and His future return.
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering?
Question: “Who the able to stand?”
Answer: A multi-ethnic army who have been redeemed by the Lamb’s blood
D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!)
As we remain faithful to Christ through our suffering, we are bearing witness to Him and we are joining in His suffering, and in that, we receive His redemption of us by His blood. His wounds have made us whole. Christ has already won the battle for us. Because He has already conquered death, we can face suffering knowing that we are spiritually safe, we cannot be snatched from Him, that battle is over. When I remind myself this truth, look to Him, remember what lies ahead–an imperishable future Home…I can rest in that.
I resonated with Patti’s grief last week (you’re still on my bath tub index card Patti!) over her adult children as I have been alienated from 2 sisters I was once very close to, or so I thought. It is painful. And Patti’s grief reminds me how hard all of this is also for my mom. It was helpful to have Shirley’s reminder that these spiritual battles are the Lord’s. It grieves Him even more than it does us and we can trust Him and lay it at His feet.
Lizzy — you and Patti are kindred spirits and I’m so glad you found one another on this blog.
Thank you for your prayers, Lizzy. It is difficult to be alienated, but Shirley’s reminder meant so much to me, too. I am blessed to be on your bath tub index card, Lizzy. I am praying for you, as well. I am thankful that we are able to lay our grief at the feet of Jesus and that He grieves with us. I really loved hearing Paige Benton Brown on Romans. It helped me see things in a better perspective. How I pray that the words she spoke will be somehow brought to the minds and hearts of both of our family members. We all need those words to resonate in our hearts. I continue to pray for more of Jesus and less of me.
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll?
The vision is of the heavenly throne room of God. John describes it with OT imagery. Creation is represented by creatures and elders who surround God and give honor to Him. The scroll is held by God and has seven seals. The scroll holds the information about how God’s kingdom will come here fully on earth.
B. Why does he weep?
I don’t think it actually says, however, isn’t it because he doesn’t think anyone can open the scroll?
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
There is no one to open the scroll until John hears who can; the Lion of the tribe of Judah (OT Messianic warrior). What he sees is a slain lamb. Jesus overcame His enemies by dying for them. He conquered evil. The lamb and the One sitting on the throne are worshipped as the one true Redeemer.
2. Watch up to 2:10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
Revelation is apocalyptic literature, meaning that it recounts a prophet’s symbolic dreams and visions that reveal God’s heavenly perspective on history and current events. That means that the present can be viewed in light of history’s final outcome. It means it’s a word from God spoken through a prophet to warn or to comfort.
3. There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyo which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
What has been helpful to me is to study this book along with Dr. Campbell’s book, to read how he explains the meaning and the symbols.One point made in the video is that this type of literature would have been familiar to John’s readers, and he used symbols drawn from the OT and he expected his readers to go discover what they mean. I wonder, then, how this book has come to be interpreted in some of the ways it has….like a science fiction novel.
4. Yes, it is helpful to remember to interpret the book symbolically, unless you are forced to interpret a part of it literally.
4.
That’s a good question, Susan. I think the history of the theology of the Rapture and dispensationalism is revealing. It seems if it were truly Scriptural it would have been from the beginning, and not so recently. I know some have questioned what Campbell said, but I have found other reliable sources substantiating it. And I do know Late Great Planet Earth and the Left Behind Series had a profound effect. But there are also people I respect who hold to this view of a literal interpretation.
Monday: The Churches
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
They have weaknesses and strengths. The churches were asked to listen with their ears and there was a promise for all who overcome victorious.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
Weaknesses-apathy, immorality, affluence
Strengths-there were some who remained steadfast despite the persecution under Domitian and before that, under Nero.
Warning: do not compromise but rather, be faithful.
Encouragement: victory for those who remain steadfast
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
It is the storyline of all Revelation since it is like a summary of what one is about to read. It addresses the spiritual condition of the 7 churches, choices they have made and a promise to those who endure till the end. The rest of the book will answer the following questions:
Will Jesus’ people endure, will they inherit the new world that God has in store, why is faithfulness to Jesus called “conquering?”
Tuesday: The Temple, Scroll, Lion and Lamb
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll?
God is seated at the throne surrounded by worshipping creatures, elders, representing human nations giving allegiance to the One Creator God. And on his right hand is a scroll that is closed up with 7 waxed seals. Symbolizes prophecies in OT How God’s kingdom will come here fully on earth as in Heaven
B. Why does he weep? No one can open the scroll.
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
They are expecting a messianic king who would bring God’s kingdom through military conquest as prophesied in the OT as The Lion of Judah, the Root of Jesse. But when John looked, the one who is the conqueror is depicted as a sacrificed bloody Lamb who is alive and ready to open the scroll! The OT promise of God’s kingdom coming was inaugurated through the crucified Messiah who died for his enemies. He overcame his enemies by dying for them as the true Passover Lamb so they could be redeemed. His death on the cross is Jesus’ enthronement and the way He conquered evil.
This explanation is really helping me with a broad look at Revelation. I want to praise the Lord! Andrew Peterson’s “He is Worthy” is brought to mind right now. Holy, holy, holy! He is worthy, indeed!
1. What stands out to you from the above, or, what is one big truth you’ve learned so far from Revelation?
Tying Revelation to Daniel, Ezekiel, etc. was new to me. Also that though we will be tested tremendously as things get worse, God will protect us spiritually.
2. Watch up to 2.10 from the above video. What kind of literature is Revelation, and what does this mean?
A Jewish Apocalypse. A prophecy to warn or comfort God’s people through a crisis.
3. There are, we know, varying views of Revelation. One big difference is whether you interpret the pictures and numbers primarily literally or symbolically. The Hebrew word translated “show” or “reveal” in the opening verse is deiknyō which is from a root word for metaphor. Is this helpful to you?
Yes. It helps to make it clear that he set the stage in the beginning to help us interpret it the right way which is metaphorically.
G. K. Beale says that the usual dictum in Scripture is to interpret it literally unless forced to interpret it symbolically, in Revelation this is turned on its head. With apocalytpic literature you should interpret symbolically unless forced to interpret literally.
4. What do you think about the above?
That we interpret symbolically or literally depending on the text. I think Dee’s helpful explanation above is a great example – “Show or reveal” meaning metaphor. So that tells us how to interpret Revelation until we encounter passages where we are forced to interpret literally.
Like the Song of Songs-we’ve interpreted it literally but underneath it’s a metaphor of Jesus’ pursuit, redemption, and rescue of us bringing us to Himself, His Bride.
I love that comparison to The Song, Rebecca.
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter –I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches. B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
That the 7 churches represent us. It helps me to ask God to examine my heart! I don’t want to compromise, yet my heart can so easily lose focus on enduring for the prize. I want to be a conquerer and faithful, and I want all of us who are His to be.
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll? John’s vision is of the throne of God surrounded by the OT prophets. Surrounding the throne are creatures and elders that represent all human nations giving allegiance to the one true creator, God who is Holy. There is a scroll in God’s hand; it has seven seals.
B. Why does he weep? John wept because there was no one worthy of opening the scroll. What John heard: The only one who can open the scroll is the Lion from the tribe of Judah; the root of David.
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
John was expecting the Messianic King, who would bring God’s kingdom through Military conquest. What John saw, was not what he expected. It was the Lamb slain with blood ready to open the scroll. The symbol of Jesus as the Slain Lamb; God’s kingdom was inaugurated by the crucified Messiah. Jesus overcame His enemies by dying for them, as the true Passover Lamb, so they could be redeemed. Enthronement is the way He conquered evil. The vision concludes with the Lamb next to the one seated on the throne and and together they are worshipped as the one true Creator and Redeemer; The slain Lamb begins to open the scroll. * It is a symbol of His divine authority to guide history to its conclusion.
2. What kind of literature is Revelation? Apocalyptic- this means unveiling; John used symbolism. Biblical symbols are consistent with the whole of biblical revelation.
3. The opening verse of Revelation says , “a revelation from Jesus Christ which God gave him to show his servants events that must soon take place. He used an angel as messenger and used a great deal of symbolism, much is related to the Old Testament.
5.A. Two things that stood out from the study of the churches; There was a commendation and there was a complaint for most of the churches: “I have this against you.” these churches resemble the present churches and are enlightening to us.
B. Some of the weaknesses are tolerance to the culture, lacking in love, disobedience and going astray in immorality. Strengths were endurance, steadfastness, love, service. What was an encouragement to me: the church of Philadelphia because in spite of little strength, they obeyed the word and did not deny the Lord.
C. the storyline for all of Revelation: We need to be prepared, alert and be witnesses of our faith because God is revealing to us his plans and purposes for his church.
It is rather amazing, isn’t it Shirley, how the churches sound so much like us!
This is so well stated, Shirley. I agree with Dee ~ it sounds so like our churches today. So thankful our prayers are heard by our Heavenly Father.
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09
A. What do you learn about the number 7? There are three cycles of Seven: the Seven Seals, Seven Trumpets, Seven Bowls. The Seventh Seal contains the Seven Trumpets; The Seventh Trumpet contains the Seven Bowls. I love the example of the nesting dolls. This really helped me to visualize the concept better!
B. What reasons does he give to support that these 3 series of 7’s occur simultaenously rather than linearly? Each set concludes with the final judgment. The all have matching conclusions, so it is likely that John is using each set of seven to depict the same period of time= Between Jesus’s resurrection and Jesus’s future return from three different perspectives.
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering? The question asked is “Who will be able to stand?” John sees an angel with a signet ring, coming to place a mark of protection of God’s servants who are enduring the hardship and he hears the number of those that are sealed. Twelve thousand from each of the twelve tribes. The number of the Army is what John heard, just like heard heard about the conquering lion of Judah. But, in both cases, what he turned and saw was the surprising fulfillment of those military images, was in Jesus the slain lamb. The multi ethnic army of the Lamb, can stand before God because they have been redeemed by the Lamb’s blood. They are conquering, not by killing, but by suffering and bearing witness, just like the Lamb.
D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!) As Christians, we are part of the army of the Lamb. We can stand before God because we have been redeemed by suffering and bearing witness to the Lamb of God. We are putting our faith, not in earthly armies, but in Jesus Christ, the slain Lamb of God. I love this, because no matter the interpretation of Revelation we follow, our conclusion is that we are able to stand before the throne of God because we follow and love the slain Lamb of God, who conquered evil, not by killing, but by dying for us. His resurrection means that believers in Jesus will also have a resurrection and be present with Him in heaven.
Thank you so much, Dee, for doing the study in Romans with Paige. I could not write fast enough. Even if you have studied Romans in the past, this is so powerful and timely, you will not be disappointed!! How I Praise God for your studies and wisdom, Dee.
Lord, how I praise you and thank you for Dee and for Paige. Thank you for their wisdom and for their love of you, our Lord and Savior. Thank you for their gifts of teaching Your Word. May Your Name be Praised.
sweet Patti–I so agree with you! Yes, Lord–thank You for Your provision of our dear Dee and for the wisdom You have given she and Paige! I feel so ready for this good study!
Patti and Lizzy — so glad you are excited about Romans with Paige. I again was writing like crazy and being transformed as she spoke. The power of God.
Yes, I do agree! Paige on Romans was/is very powerful! And I love her passion for the Lord and His Word!
7. Listen from 8:10 to 9:52
A. How do the trumpet judgments parallel the plagues of Exodus?
The first 5 trumpet blasts replay the plague sent upon Egypt and the 6th trumpet releases the 4 horsemen that came from the first four seals. Even with the plagues, no repentance.
B. How is the response of the people similar?
Even with God’s judgment, there is no repentance.
C. If you interpret the vision of the temple and the outer courts and the trampling symbolically, what does it mean?
The new temple is a symbol for God’s new covenant people, and the image is how Jesus’ followers may suffer persecution by the nations but this external defeat cannot take away their victory through the Lamb.
8. Listen from 9:53 to the end A. Why does he interpret the two witnesses as God’s people rather than two literal men?
John calls them lampstands which is one of his clear symbols for the churches. The vision is about the prophetic role of Jesus’ followers to call idolatrous nations and rulers to turn back to the one true God.
B. What is the mission of the church — and how is this the way Jesus conquered?
God’s kingdom will be revealed when the nations see the church living like Jesus. When we imitate the loving sacrifice of the Lamb–not killing our enemies, but dying for them.
God’s mercy, shown through us, will bring the nations to repentance.
5.A. John’s vision: He sees the throne room, the temple of God and heard the voice like the trumpet telling him to come up here. the amazing sights and sounds include 4 living creatures…But John weeps because there is no one
in heaven or earth who was able to open the scroll. but then he sees the slain Lamb, followed by the 4 living creatures and 24 elders who fell down and sang, “worthy are you… by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and nation. He will conquer! Not by power but through his suffering for us.
Yes, I listened to the powerful first sermon by Paige. So much and so well covered. Hard to write so much, but we are going to benefit greatly through this study. Am glad we are doing it!
I’m so glad you are glad, Shirley!
5. Watch the video from 2:10 to 3:45 and answer:
A. One thing that was new to me is that he called this a circular letter – I think meaning it went to all the churches. There is a message in them for all of them to contemplate, just as it is relevant to us. Share two things that stood out to you from our study of the churches.
There is a difference between a true, living church and a church that has become nothing more than a religious institution. It was a concern in these ancient churches, and it is a concern today. I remember we studied the pervasiveness of progressive Christianity and how it has distorted the church today.
A couple of the churches were praised for being faithful and refusing to compromise, despite suffering all kinds of persecution – being ostracized and marginalized by society, loss of income, and even some were martyred.
B. What were some of the weaknesses and strengths in the churches according to the video? What was a warning or encouragement to you?
Weaknesses: apathy due to wealth and affluence, moral compromise, sexual immorality.
Strengths: remaining faithful to Jesus, suffering with endurance
Jesus warned these churches that things were only going to get worse. The warning to me is that I can choose between faithfulness or compromise. The temptation will always be to deny Jesus to avoid persecution or just because I want to go along and fit in with the culture.
C. The video says this sets up the storyline for all of Revelation. Explain, if you can.
Jesus called those early believers, as well as us, to remain faithful so that we can “overcome” – literally, “conquer”, and promises a reward for everyone who does conquer. The video says that each reward is drawn from the book’s final vision about the marriage between heaven and earth. This opening section, therefore, sets up the main plot tension that will drive the storyline of the entire book of Revelation. The “tension” is this: will believers endure and remain faithful? Will they inherit the promised reward? Why is faithfulness to Jesus described as conquering?
Thinking about what we’ve read so far, about the judgments that have come and are coming from God (modeled on the plagues sent on the Egyptians) I can see the tension being played out….the tribulation period was already beginning in the days of these ancient churches, affecting the believers of that time, and is continuing to our present day. As believers, we are not necessarily going to be immune, or protected, from the judgments upon the earth and all its inhabitants. We are going to suffer right alongside of unbelievers, and believers will also lose their lives. The tension, I believe, will also be within the heart of each and every believer, as he or she decides whether or not God can still be believed and trusted, whether or not He is still worth following, whether He is good, or not, whether or not He is worth paying the price of remaining faithful without compromise. Campbell’s book has explained that the tribulation will strengthen believers and harden the hearts of unbelievers, and there lies another tension. Tension between the two groups will grow, which is likely explains that part about the two witnesses (the church) being killed and people being happy about the apparent demise of the church.
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So good from Susan:
We are going to suffer right alongside of unbelievers, and believers will also lose their lives. The tension, I believe, will also be within the heart of each and every believer, as he or she decides whether or not God can still be believed and trusted, whether or not He is still worth following, whether He is good, or not, whether or not He is worth paying the price of remaining faithful without compromise. Campbell’s book has explained that the tribulation will strengthen believers and harden the hearts of unbelievers, and there lies another tension. Tension between the two groups will grow, which is likely explains that part about the two witnesses (the church) being killed and people being happy about the apparent demise of the church.
The tensions seem to be increasing right now. I agree with Dee on your great perspective, Susan.
Wednesday: Sevens — and The Seals (And Paige is live today)
Today at 10 Central Paige will stream her first teaching from her church: https://westendcc.org/paigebrown After this you can find this lesson on You-Tube by googling Paige Benton Brown Romans. It comes down Tuesday night. The questions on her teaching, along with some review questions for Revelation, will begin next Sunday.
I listened and it was so good. Pricked to the core of my sinfulness with the “therefores” and a sense of gratitude to the “BUTs”…
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09
A. What do you learn about the number 7?
It stands for completeness. 7 churches symbolized by the 7 lights. 7 God’s kingdom and judgment that will come fully here on earth as it is in Heaven.
A scroll with 7 seals, 7 trumpet and 7 bowls the sets of which are woven together.
B. What reasons does he give to support that these 3 series of 7’s occur simultaneously rather than linearly?
He has woven the sets together. The 7 Bowls come out of the 7 trumpets and 7 seals, and the trumpets come out of the seals. They are like nesting dolls-BEAUTIFUL COMPARISON! Each set has matching conclusions of judgment and depict the same period of time from Jesus’ resurrection to the time that He is coming again from 3 different perspectives.
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering? Who is able to stand? 144, 000 is the number of G od’s sealed and protected servants (reminiscent of the military census and which was representative of all 12 tribes) what John heard but when he looked, it was the Lamb leading a multi-ethnic army and they are told to conquer not by killing their enemies but by suffering and bearing witness. They can conquer by suffering and bearing witness just like the Lamb.
D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!)
Jesus’ kingdom is an upside-down kingdom. We do not conquer by the world’s standards but by His standards-through our weaknesses, sufferings and being witnesses to the gospel even when we are persecuted for it. We pledge our allegiance to Jesus and Jesus alone!
I was intrigued by what John heard compared to what he saw. It follows my thought process that God’s ways are often not what we expect them to be. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts and your ways are not my ways…” Isaiah 55:-8-9
Bing, Thank you so much for these great thoughts! I really love your insights into this: D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!)
Jesus’ kingdom is an upside-down kingdom. We do not conquer by the world’s standards but by His standards-through our weaknesses, sufferings and being witnesses to the gospel even when we are persecuted for it. We pledge our allegiance to Jesus and Jesus alone!I was intrigued by what John heard compared to what he saw. It follows my thought process that God’s ways are often not what we expect them to be. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts and your ways are not my ways…” Isaiah 55:-8-9
Amen to Bing and Patti!
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09
A. What do you learn about the number 7?
There are 3 sets of 7 in this bit. Each set is part of another. He compares these to nesting dolls. It is most likely that John is revealing the same period of time from Jesus’ resurrection to His return from the different perspectives.
B. What reasons does he give to support that these 3 series of 7’s occur simultaneously rather than linearly?
They each culminate with the final judgment and matching conclusions.
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering?
Who is able to stand (to withstand the final judgment)? The answer is the multiethnic Messianic “army” who will stand in front of God and who suffer as Jesus did.
D. Revelation is going to get to this — but what does this tell you about conquering in this life? (Take a good guess!)
We will suffer and be able to stand before God as well.
So sorry to be so late with any response this week. Guess it is an example of the pressures we all face. Will just add a mishmash of comments here, and hope for better next week.
It was very eye opening that believers have to choose between compromise with the world and persecution for remaining faithful to Jesus. Somehow I assumed there were more options.
So help me here. The death of the two witnesses. If these are the church, how can they be killed, and how can they come back to life?
Sharon, I appreciated your explanation about the authorship of the book.
The comparisons of what John heard and what he subsequently saw was very helpful.
Susan, when you talked about the tension within believers as we keep being challenged by Satan to quit believing and trusting in God about His being good and His being worth paying the price it costs us to remain faithful to Him, it very much resonated with me.
Jesus’s kingdom is hard to get a handle on, because it is so counter – or upside down – to everything we understand or that makes sense to us.
Bing, I loved your bringing Isaiah 55:8-9 to this.
Mary, I agree that the two witnesses being the church seems weird (dying and coming back to life). However, when the seven seals are broken it does say that when God judges there will be a multiethnic people (of all nations) that will be just like Jesus in giving themselves. He says they will suffer and be persecuted in their witness, like Jesus. He implies that they will also be given eternal life like Jesus (resurrected).
Bing! Isaiah 55:8-9! Wow!!!
Mary — I know — I’d like another choice too! But helps to be prepared.
Laura’s answer is likely. I’ve also wondered if it will be like that first Easter Sunday when people came out of their tombs. I don’t really know.
7. Listen from 8:10 to 9:52
A. How do the trumpet judgments parallel the plagues of Exodus?
The first five trumpet blasts signify the plagues in Egypt. Hail, blood, poison water, darkness, and demon locusts.
B. How is the response of the people similar?
The people do not repent just like Pharaoh.
C. If you interpret the vision of the temple and the outer courts and the trampling symbolically, what does it mean?
The inner temple is the protected place of God’s people. The outer temple is the place of the unbelievers. The unbelievers will be trampled. Some believe this is describing a literal destruction of Jerusalem in the past or in the future. Others believe it is a representation of Jesus and His followers. The believers may be killed but they have an internal, spiritual salvation.
8. Listen from 9:53 to the end
A. Why does he interpret the two witnesses as God’s people rather than two literal men?
John calls them “lamp stands” which he used earlier to refer to the seven churches.
B. What is the mission of the church — and how is this the way Jesus conquered?
The mission of the church is to conquer her enemies through love, not hate; through dying for them. It is what Jesus did. It’s God’s mercy shown through Jesus’ followers that brings repentance of the people.
Such a good answer.
I loved the part in Paige’s talk when she talked about all the hating and pointing fingers yet not seeing that we ourselves are sinful.
5. Watch from 3:45 to 5:30 and answer:
A. What vision does John see of the Temple and the Scroll?
John sees a vision of God on His throne with heavy symbolism drawn from several OT prophet; there are strange creatures surrounding the throne and saying, “Holy, holy, holy”. In God’s hand is a scroll sealed with seven wax seals. The scroll symbolizes the sealed scroll in Daniel’s vision.
B. Why does he weep?
John weeps because he thinks there is no one worthy to open the sealed scroll.
C. First he sees a lion, but then a lamb. This is significant to the whole mystery of Revelation, which means Someone very different than expected is going to conquer in a way that is very different than expected. Explain.
The lion from the tribe of Judah is the OT description of a conquering Messiah. This is what John hears at first, but he turns to see a sacrificed lamb who is alive and ready to open the scroll. What Revelation reveals is that God’s promise of a conquering Messiah was inaugurated through a crucified Christ. Jesus overcame His enemies by dying for them as the true Passover Lamb. That is very different than a Messiah who destroys his enemies. Jesus’ death on the Cross was the way that He conquered evil.
My take away is that we must stand strong in our faith through this compromising world. There is still much that I am pondering like Mary. I listened to a wonderful teaching on the feasts of Israel, the recent one of Rosh Hashanah. The teacher is a Jewish believer and he talked about the 2 witnesses and his belief of the judgment on the Jewish people. I agree with symbolism yet I know there is a plan for Israel as well as the church. He indicated that this remembrance points to repentance and prepares for the Day of Atonement which points to Messiah Jesus! I feel humbled by each of you and love the wonderful answers you share. Blessings dear sisters and especially for Dee’s great leadership.
And blessings to you as well, Shirley!
6. Listen from 5:30 to 8:09.
A. What do you learn about the number 7?
There are three cycles of 7: 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls. Each cycle depicts God’s judgment coming to earth. Each 7 contains the next 7, so the video describes them as nesting bowls. Each series of 7 concludes with the final judgment. John is using each set of 7 to depict the same period of time between Jesus’ resurrection and future return from three different perspectives. So the number 7 here is not to be taken as a literal period of time. We also learned that the number 7 means completion.
B. What reasons does he give to support that these three series of 7’s occur simultaneously rather than literally?
John has woven the 7’s all together, so that the final 7 bowls come out of the 7th trumpet and the 7th seal, and the 7 trumpets emerge from the 7th seal. They are like nesting bowls. They all have matching conclusions too.
C. What question is asked at the end, and what is the surprising answer for conquering?
The people of the earth ask, “Who is able to stand?” The “multiethnic army”, which is the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, are the people of God who are able to conquer until the end by suffering and bearing witness just like the Lamb.
D. Revelation is going to get to this – but what does this tell you about conquering in this life?
I think it was Paul who said something like “We are more than conquerors through Christ”. Conquering in this life does not mean I have “conquered” because I have a big bank account, lots of material possession, social status, or things like that. It means that I have suffered well with an eye on the prize….the real prize being Jesus.
7. Listen from 8:10 to 9:52.
A. How do the trumpet judgments parallel the plagues of Exodus?
The first five trumpet blasts replay the plagues on Egypt. John uses symbols from these plagues to tell the story of God’s judgment from a different perspective.
B. How is the response of the people similar?
Pharaoh refused to repent despite the plagues, and the nations of the earth also do not repent as a result of God’s judgment sent upon the earth.
C. If you interpret the vision of the temple and the outer courts and the trampling symbolically, what does it mean?
Those who are protected by God (the measuring is a symbol of God’s protection) are set apart as represented by being in the Temple. The outer court and the city are trampled down by the nations. The new temple is a symbol of God’s new covenant people. All this imagery means that God’s people, or the church, will suffer persecution by the nations, but their external defeat cannot take away their victory through the Lamb.
Friday: Winning Through Losing
8. Listen from 9:53 to the end
A. Why does he interpret the two witnesses as God’s people rather than two literal men?
Lampstands was referred to as the churches in Revelation 1.
B. What is the mission of the church — and how is this the way Jesus conquered?
The mission of the church is to bear witness to the gospel to the world and to stand firm till the end amid suffering and persecution.
Saturday:
That we win through losing.
Reflecting on 9/11 and feeling anger well inside of me, I found this Scripture and prayer comforting and convicting. Jesus’ kingdom is, indeed, an upside-down kingdom. We weep for the lives lost and families still in deep grief even at this time, but we also ask for a heart that weeps for the destruction that awaits those who reject God.
Psalm 73:16-20 – “When I thought of understanding this, it was troublesome in my sight until I entered the sanctuary of God; then I perceived their end. You indeed put them on slippery ground; You dropped them into ruin. How they are destroyed in a moment! They are utterly swept away by sudden terrors! Like a dream when one awakes, Lord, when stirred, You will despise their image.”
Lord, we need Your understanding. Remind us that when it appears that evil is winning, we only see what is happening in the moment. Give us a heart that weeps for the destruction that awaits those who reject You.
10. Have you started listening to Paige? What are your thoughts?
Yes-it is powerfully convicting without condemning, passionately presented, and oh so orderly! Truly anointed! Her use of the word, “tonic” jarred me to the ways I approach Jesus as such. I need Jesus not because He can give me what I want but because I love Him and desire a vibrant relationship with Him.
10. Have you started listening to Paige? What are your thoughts?
I have started listening to Paige and I think she is wonderful. I have LOTS of notes (I’m at 40 min) and (SURPRISE!) her teaching is fitting right into my life right now!