I need the message to the persecuted church of Smyrna. Jesus has no rebuke for them. They were poor but rich! They did not cling to comfort but to God — and power was released.
I love my quiet home with its controlled temperatures, smooth sheets, and fancy coffee machine. I gravitate toward comfort and away from suffering.
Suffering scares me.
How unlike my Lord, who set His face like flint toward the cross.
In a past blog post I wrote:
“God has a wonderful plan for our lives, but it may include martyrdom.”
Our own Laura-Dancer responded: “I don’t think I’m up for it.”
I understand. (And Laura, just wait til you get to lesson 13 for very good news!)
So, how do we prepare our hearts for suffering? For, indeed, God uses suffering not only to awaken unbelievers but to refine believers. Suffering is part of His good plan for He has eternity in mind, whereas we tend to be so focused on this life.
It seems He is removing His protective hand from the cushy western evangelical world. While we thought America and its freedoms would last indefinitely, history proves that “an empire” in man’s eyes is an “episode” in God’s eyes.
We are not liked anymore. One poll found most Americans would prefer not to have an evangelical neighbor. Some of that is deserved when we do not love our neighbors well, but some of it comes from the clash that standing for truth causes in a world deceived by Satan. We are now seen as hateful bigots. Teachers, nurses, bakers, authors, and scientists taking a stand for truth are experiencing genuine loss, as so many of you expressed last week.
We are in the first stage of persecution which historically moves from “We don’t want your ideas” to “We don’t want you.”
How are we going to react?
Compromise? Leave the church? As Revelation shows us “the church” is God’s plan. There is no Plan B. But for the first time in American history church members are in the minority. (34% according to a recent poll.) In my daughter’s city of Albany, N. Y., only 9% identify as Christians. The pressure is on us to conform, to blend in, to avoid any cost or loss of comfort.
The message to the church at Smyrna is a message to us. Christ saw that suffering was around the corner for them and wanted to prepare them to stand firm. One of John’s disciples was Polycarp, born in AD 65, was a leader in Smyrna, and was martyred in AD 155. He obviously listened with his whole heart to this message, for his martyrdom made history. This is what he said before being burned at the stake (he would not let them tie him, he said Christ would help him stay.)
Last week we looked at Ephesus where John had been a bishop for many years. This week we will cover Smyrna and next week, Pergamum. Here is a map so you can see how close these three cities were:
Here is a link to an optional movie based on Polycarp’s life. While there are fictional characters to fill in what we don’t know, it accurately portrays what we do know, with actual quotes from the writings of Polycarp. Both Polycarp of Smyrna and Antipas of Pergamum were disciples of John who were martyred because they refused emperor worship. I recommend it, because, like The Chosen, it gives us a real feel for that era.
Here is a link to the Tim Keller sermon on Smyrna from Monergism which we will discuss. If this link does not work, go directly to www.monergism and you can find it on the 2nd page of sermons on Revelation 2.
And finally, here is a link to a short Francis Chan video that gets to the heart of the message given to prepare Smyrna for suffering:
Word Document Homework
Sunday: Getting Started
- What stands out to you from the above and why?
- What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
Monday: The First and the Last, who died and came to life again
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8)
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17)
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
6. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b?
7. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
Tuesday: The True Gospel is Not One of Prosperity or Ease
Joni Earickson Tada wrote: God’s purpose is not to make us healthy, wealthy, or even happy, though it pleases Him to do so — but to make us holy.
8. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church at Smyrna and share the main points.
9. Read Revelation 2:10-11
A. What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why?
B. What does “ten days” mean? (We know it isn’t literal, but still, meant to give hope.)
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
Wednesday/Thursday Keller Sermon
One of you told me the link does not work — so please go to www.monergism.com to find it. It is on the 2nd page of sermons on Revelation 2. That’s where you can get it for free.
10. Listen to the Keller sermon above and share your comments and notes. You can break it up into two days.
Friday: The Prosperity Gospel
One of the ways Satan has twisted the gospel is with what we have come to call “The Prosperity Gospel,” which teaches that as children of the King, we should have wealth, health, and happiness. I do recommend the program that goes with this trailer on Netflix. (For those who have printed off this lesson you can find it by going to YouTube and typing in American Gospel: Official Trailer.) Please watch this trailer and share your comments. (You can find the whole program on You-Tube if you like.)
11. What lies do you hear? How would you combat them with the truth of Scripture?
Saturday:
12. How is the Spirit of the Living God showing you how to apply this week’s lesson to your life?
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1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I can identify much with Dee, gravitating toward comfort and away from suffering. It’s hard for me to deny myself a favorite latte from Starbucks! Yet, I don’t think this coziness with comfort (and security) is only about the enjoyment of material comforts. The part about how suffering “scares me” – that is the fear of pain, of the loss of a loved one, the loss of a relationship, the loss of fellowship, the reality of loneliness and isolation, the “hard stuff” of life, the bearing of responsibility that you didn’t really want, the entering into the pain and sorrow of another when you choose to walk alongside of them-being afraid it will rub-off on you and bring you down.
Secondly, I can somewhat understand why some would prefer not to have an evangelical neighbor. It was very disturbing for me to see some at the capitol riot holding Bibles and “Jesus signs” and believing that God was on their side as they assaulted and heckled police officers, made threatening chants, erected a guillotine with a noose.
I remember viewing the Francis Chan video before, and while I do agree with what he is saying, about we are only here for a very short time, and that what we do during that time impacts our eternity, I did not like when he said “You think I’m stupid….no, you’re stupid” and “You are so crazy.” I don’t see those as loving statements towards the lost. When the rich young man walked away after Jesus’ invitation to sell all he had and follow Jesus, Jesus did not call after the young man, “You’re really stupid! You’re crazy!” In Mark’s account (chapter 10) when the young man tells Jesus that he has kept the commandments since he was very young, it says “Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him.” I can only imagine that it made Jesus sad when the young man walked away. But who knows? Maybe later on, the man had a change of heart, remembering Jesus’ words.
2. What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
I don’t know that I’ve been asked to wade into “risky territory” for Jesus, as in a dangerous situation? But recently, I was asked to do something that is definitely out of my comfort zone, poses the risk of failure (and therefore, humiliation or embarrassment), is a challenge to me personally and asks me to take a step of faith. Yesterday I was reading in Jesus A Pilgrimage (by James Martin) about the call of the first disciples (Peter, Andrew, James and John)
Martin writes that we are so familiar with the stories in the gospels that they can fail to surprise us. We’ve heard this story so many times that the fishermen’s responses seem foreordained. Of course they follow Jesus. Why did they say yes? Martin writes: Perhaps they were ready. Jesus may have come at a time when each was ready for something new. We also know what these kairos (kairos meaning the right or opportune moment) moments are like: tired and dissatisfied with our lives, we’re waiting for someone to say that it’s okay to change…..There are many ways of being “called”. Martin goes on to say that being “called” by God doesn’t necessarily mean hearing voices or a grand spiritual experience. Often, being called can be more subtle, like a strong desire or an impulse to leave something behind. And then this: God continually invites us to greater and greater freedom, asking us to drop the nets (as the fishermen left their nets behind) that entangle us in our old ways of doing things, ways that no longer are healthy for us, ways that keep us from being more loving….maybe we’re just lazy, and our nets are the familiar ties that keep us living the same way we always have. We need to listen carefully for those calls and not grow so entangled in our daily lives that we miss them.
This just spoke to me so much that I gave my answer to the thing I’ve been asked to do: YES.
You are a good critical thinker and put it so well. You are right — Jesus wouldn’t have told the rich young ruler he was crazy. I like your quotes from Father Martin!
Susan, I think that particular video was geared more toward teenagers than adults or so it seemed to me.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
It is hard for me to get out of my comfort zone, for sure. I don’t like the idea of suffering, though I have had some times in my life where God allowed suffering. These times have had unknown outcomes, caused me pain and sorrow, and were not necessarily due to a decision I made. However, when I look back at these times I see a pattern of God being present, of good coming out of bad, of wisdom replacing folly and that has been encouraging. I try to live one day at a time and right now that is very important. All that you mention about the world not liking, even hating Christians is frightening. I agree with Susan that I do not like the words “stupid” or “crazy” in the rope video. I know so many who have drawn me closer to Christ over the years, have done so by their actions or kind and encouraging words. I hope to be that kind of a disciple.
2. What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
While I was working in the Library at a wonderful Christian school, I was ask to mentor a student for a Senior project. This was out of my comfort zone, but I thought since it was a single student I might not freak out. I am used to working more with the little ones…I had an easy and wonderful female student and it was a great experience. I ended up mentoring a sweet girl every year for at least 10 years and built some wonderful relationships. It was a good opportunity to share Jesus. Even though it is a Christian school, there are many who did not come from strong Christian families. My last student was a young man….that was REALLY out of my comfort zone. I said I did not think I would do well with a male student, but I reluctantly said I would do it. He was a nice young man from Viet Nam and I did not know him at all. The first thing he told me was that he did not believe in God. I told him that I totally do, but we could chat about it….For his project on Retirement homes, I introduced him to a friend (a former pastor) who was the chaplain at a retirement home here. They are great friends to this day and that pastor has mentored Minh in so many ways. That was three years ago. Minh became sort of an adopted grandson to us. He loves to come over and tell what he is doing ~ he loves getting my husband’s input too…….we met his entire family, even his grandma, when they came over from Viet Nam for his graduation. We love them all! We have always stayed in touch and he loves to come and discuss his latest college girlfriend or business idea. I don’t know his future, but I am so happy I said “yes” that year. It was a good lesson is saying “Why not” instead of “Why”. Minh was one of the greatest blessing during my 13 years at the school.
Patti, I love your story about Minh. A missionary couple did for me what you have done with Minh.
Thank you, Bing. It has been pure joy. I pray that the seed we planted will be watered by others Minh meets.
Love your story about Minh….all because you were willing to step out of your comfort zone, you made a lasting friend!
Thank you, Susan. I prayed every time we met with him that my words would be edifying.
Love this. Instead of Why? say Why not? It even brought a blessing to your husband.
Oh Patti — those are such great testimonies about taking risks.
Before I even start, I need to ask a question. #4 says to read Rev 2:8-9 and answer:, but there isn’t anything there to answer. I am confused.
1. What stood out in the introduction and why?
All over again, the clip from Francis Chan. I hate it that I can KNOW this, and then the next day be seeking my own comfort. Argh!!
2. What has helped you move out of your comfort zone and into risky behavior for Jesus?
When I first knew Jesus, I talked indiscriminately about Him. I didn’t think about how that individual would receive my words. I talked about Him because He was what I was most interested in. He wasn’t the only thing I talked about, but He was never far away. I remember the day that changed. I was on the phone with a friend, and he responded to someone with him that he’d be there shortly, that I was trying to convert him. I’d never thought of my speech in that way, and it upset me. After that, I became guarded about who I talked to and what I said. I wish it had never happened, or that I hadn’t reacted like that, or that when I recognized it years later I could have said I won’t have this reaction anymore, but here I am. What pushes me to even try are the people I know who are really passionate about sharing. The ones who both encourage and challenge me.
Mary — you are the copy editor eyes I lack! Thank you. I just took that question out.
Mary, Thank you, I can relate to the knowing what matters ultimately yet falling so quickly back to seeking my own comfort.
I also thought about your friend saying you were trying to convert him, and how the enemy makes us ashamed. I thought of Paul in Acts 26 and how unashamed he really was of the gospel.
” Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Can you persuade me in such a short time to become a Christian?”
“Short time or long,” Paul replied, “I wish to God that not only you but all who hear me this day may become what I am, except for these chains.”
I keep asking for God to bring me back to being unashamed!!
Sunday: Getting Started
1.What stands out to you from the above and why?
I am not sure if I am up for suffering either. As a nurse, I have seen suffering among my patients and I have always kept my cool while at work caring for them and the dying. The reflection at home afterward is what usually gets to me.
I avoid movies where death and suffering are portrayed. The Passion of Christ had me bawling in my seat and I remembered closing my eyes during the crucifixion. I just couldn’t watch it. I don’t think I can watch Polycarp, either.
“We don’t’ want you.” I will need a lot of help when one of these days somebody will say these words to me because of what I stand for.
2.What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
Recently I had 2 experiences that I have been reflecting lately.
One was meeting my Japanese friend and talking to her about Jesus. Although I knew there was a language barrier I needed to traverse, I felt buoyed by the Spirit to share my faith with her. Although our time was cut short by the return of her husband to pick her up, I sensed the open door that God provided. If this was a year ago, I would not have taken that risk with my friend.
The other experience happened in the classroom. Two of my students were with me and somehow while we were working, their conversation went to how to save money so they could pay for their car and gas. My heart somersaulted when one of the kids (who I have learned to love and who told me a few weeks ago that he wanted an “American senior year in high school-he is now a junior), asked, “why don’t you just live with your boyfriend then so you can pull your resources together?” Silence. From me. I did not know what to say! Even now, I asked myself, “how could I have used that as an opportunity to at least ask questions that may help them clarify their thoughts about living together before marriage?” I went home that day feeling like I lost a golden opportunity to honor God because I hesitated to take the risk.
Bing, sometimes it’s hard to answer “off the cuff” – you really didn’t have time to formulate an answer. It just may have caught you by surprise, the students’ conversation. But who knows….perhaps the subject will come up again, or you might be alone with just one of the students and get an opportunity to ask questions.
Susan, I appreciate your kind words. I will have them again this week-just the 2 of them. It just breaks my heart that kids as young as 16 already have this mindset. And by the way, this male student is from the Philippines also. They moved here when he was in middle school.
Bing, I relate to you about not liking the suffering of the martyrs, and I did the same thing in “Passion of the Christ!” It hurts too much to watch these things.
I agree with Susan on the students. It is so hard to just “jump to” in these situations. I will pray that God would open the door for you to have another conversation with that student where you could ask her if she thought that was really the right path for her life.
I closed my eyes too!
I’ll pray for another opportunity – if that is God’s plan, but I soooo understand, and probably better not to speak than say the wrong thing. God may have planned it that way.
I was amazed during Passion of the Christ that people were eating popcorn and that people bought the video and rewatched it. I do not need to see it again.As to your student, we will all now be praying for her ❤️
I have the same hesitancy, Bing. It can sometimes shut the door if I speak up too quickly. I will pray that God will give you the opportunity to share your loving thoughts. The values today are so different.
Thank you all for your kind response to my comment. This week has been super busy with the last day of school, several things to go to for my last few days as a teacher, and attending receptions for my students. I have all of June to finish up any school business and my official retirement date is July 1st! Thursday was the last day with students. It was one of those days when I can say I walked with a spring in my step!
What stands out to you from the above and why? The quote from Polycarp. Having the stories of the martyrs and how they faced their impending deaths helps me see the reality of what serving Christ can mean and has meant for some people. I need to revisit their stories when I feel like my cushy American life is hard.
What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific. When I have told different unbelievers in my work place that I was praying for specific things for them. I’d rather just pray for them and not let them know. They didn’t ask me to pray for them. Also I wonder what will happen if I tell them that I’m praying for the situation and it doesn’t turn out the way they want. In each case I felt prompted to tell them so I guess my answer would be that the Holy Spirit has helped me. I hope that it will plant a seed.
Dawn–i love how you tell your co-workers you are praying for them. You just reminded me of a time I was getting labs done, which is fairly frequent for me, I have terribly small “hidden” veins so I’ve learned to ask nicely for a butterfly needle. When I asked this new phlebotamist she said “what are you gonna say when I tell you I don’t have that kind?”, and I said, “well, I always pray my veins do well so I’ll just pray God will help you get it”. She got really angry and said “I don’t need your prayers!” and sure enough, she got a vein and looked at me and said “see?!” and I said as nicely as I could, “I always pray.” It made me sad that the idea of prayer angered her so much, but I kept praying for her that day and as I thought of her, hoping something that was stirred in her would eventually draw her back to Him.
Lizzy reading about your phlebotomist made me tear up. I thought of Keller saying that someone who was angry about God was closer to being saved than someone who was indifferent.
That’s quite a story, Lizzy. Good for you.
I love this, Lizzy! I think your words will stay with her. 🙂
Lizzy, that would make me tear up if somebody said that to me. It was good of you to be kind to her.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Martyrdom is not a subject I am drawn to really. I am curious about Polycarp, but also nervous because it is scary, sad, and depresses me. I am looking forward to number 13, Dee!
I question (respectfully), your statistic on church goers….I recently heard one that was twice yours (72%). Maybe we are talking about two different things though. I think the one I heard was people who identified as being Christian? I don’t remember now. Also, we must be careful about our information….so often now, we are being lied to about many things in the media. Here’s why I question these stats…if you go out in public and pay attention, there are MANY who are in church, there are MANY who are participating in small groups and there are MANY church services being conducted in my area, and I live in the “heathen” northeast (as I affectionately call us – hahaha). I know of many home churches, which may not be counted in the stars. If I go to the south, of course there are so many more.
2. What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
About 15 years ago I realized that my Christian journey was lacking. I pursued biblical knowledge because I felt like I needed to know more (driven by the fact that I worried, at that time, that I wouldn’t know what I should know when I got the heaven 🤷🏻♀️). I did witness to a younger colleague who was in the midst of a family crisis (teenager with gender issues). I’m afraid I “blew it” on that one; the outcome has not been what I envisioned, it maybe I made her think?
A few years ago I had cancer. It really set in stone for me that I needed to profess what I knew about Christ so that others could see and learn as well. I witnessed to doctors, nurses, and others during the time I went through the surgeries, scans, and radiation therapy.
Yes, Laura — just one study – though I do trust this source. Here’s the link if you want to listen:
https://wng.org/podcasts/culture-friday-americas-religious-minority-1618560092
Thanks Dee, I will 😉
Sunday: Getting Started
What stands out to you from the above and why
This…Suffering scares me…I fear the next terrible thing, I fear the weaknesses in me and the places where I haven’t properly processed my previous trauma. I absolutely do not want to go there again.
Some weeks ago, I was asleep on the couch when a police officer banged on our door at 4:30 AM. The trauma of the last time this happened immediately overwhelmed me. I woke Bill- I couldn’t answer the door alone. Somehow a 911 call had gone out from our old landline #, we don’t even have that number anymore. As soon as he had gone, I collapsed, my legs wouldn’t work.
What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
Well, I suppose at one point in time I would have to say ignorance, when we took guardianship of Bill’s siblings I was so naive, I thought it would be great, it wasn’t great it was really hard. I had to reckon with my lack of love, my selfish motives even in doing a good thing. I learned a great deal about how little I am capable of apart from him.
The call last week to pray about where we might reach out was difficult. I have hoped that Bill and I might become foster parents in out county. My friend who is a social worker has made me more aware of how few there are, especially those willing to take teens. I think it possible that we might do well at this, in part because of the experience I have had already I know it won’t be easy, but we might actually make a difference for a few of these children.I completed half of the required training last year. In spite of saying he is on board, Bill hasn’t done any. We had a discussion last week about it, he became kind of agitated, I am thinking this may never happen. I feel really discouraged. I am praying and trying to be childlike, after all, maybe we wouldn’t actually do well at foster care after all. I just imagined it was a way that we, I, might make that red part of the rope in the video into something meaningful. Maybe God has another plan.
Oh Chris — how awful. This life is so hard!
Chris, that officer banging on the door must have been terrifying for you….I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Chris, I had similar experiences. When my son was in a very severe accident a few years ago we got called to the hospital, they wouldn’t give us any information over the phone and as soon as we walked in they wanted to take us back to the consultation room. It’s the first time in my life that I almost fainted. It was a replay of when my niece passed away, same scenario.
I have always wanted to do foster care, even before I got married or had children. My husband and I were waiting for our children to get older thinking that would be best for everyone. After the kids were all school age I started looking into it, getting the paperwork together, etc. When it came time to start the first classes, my husband finally told me that this was something he never wanted to do and was just humoring me hoping that I would change my mind. Needless to say, I was greatly disappointed, but looking back I’m glad that he was finally honest about it and he spared us a 10+ year argument because I would have always been trying to change his mind if he had told me earlier 🙂
Dawn,
You and I have so many similarities, thank you for sharing your foster care story and the understanding of the ‘consultation room’.
Chris, praying the Lord works in a miraculous way to answer your desire. I know His plan often looks different than what we expect 💕
Chris–just so sorry about the police at your door. Such an enemy attack, I’m so sorry. I am praying now for His plan for you with fostering or not, that He would make a clear path if that is what He wants you to do, but I know He is already using you in so many lives, including mine. The way you have allowed Him to use your pain, your story, you minister to us of His faithfulness, more than you know.
Chris, it is so hard when we are not in agreement with our spouse on these things. It would be difficult to do it without your husband being enthusiastic about it. I will pray that God will open a door for you that will be a way for you to do something in this area that would be satisfying to you and acceptable to your husband. It is so hard sometimes, but God knows your heart is so willing.
The police officer coming to your door would have terrified me! You and Dawn have certainly shared similar experiences.
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.
It’s unmistakable who is addressing the church: Him who is the First and the Last, the one who died and came to life again. This is Jesus. This church is facing afflictions, poverty, slander, and more is coming – persecution, even death. Jesus says He knows. He is not unaware of our pain, trials, and suffering.
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev 2:8)
To the angel of the church at Smyrna.
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
Jesus is described as the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. Perhaps the promise of life after death would be relevant to Smyrna, because they are going to face increased persecution and even death.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev 3:17)
They are spiritually rich despite being impoverished and suffering afflictions and being slandered. They don’t have a lot in the eyes of the world, but in Him, they are truly rich. The church in Laodicea was deceived. They thought themselves rich because of their material wealth and yet, Jesus says that their true condition, spiritually, is that they are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
Jesus promises them that despite their plight in the world, to think of themselves truly as rich. He says they are rich. He promises them that they can suffer without fear. Jesus promises to give them the crown of life. If they overcome, they will not be hurt by the second death.
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
While it cannot be a blanket statement that poverty always results in a person being thankful, grateful, and dependent upon God, often it is the case that the poor have a beautiful dependence on God. They know they need Him, for their basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter. I cannot claim to live in poverty. Even my sufferings are small compared to some others. I only know that during times of suffering or pain, or sorrow, things that I normally would be concerned or thinking about melt away into unimportance and insignificance.
6. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b?
He says those Jews are really not Jews; they are a synagogue of Satan. They are doing the work of the devil.
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.
What stands out to me in the scripture is the tribulation of some of the people for 10 days. What does that mean? If I were to project it onto us how long is 10 days? Does this mean me too?
I am comforted with the phrase, “…Be faithful until death and I will give you the crown of life.”
I wondered about the 10 days too, Laura. I wonder if it’s not one of those symbolic numbers representing something?
I wondered that as well.
The numbers in Revelation are all symbolic!
I watched Polycarp last night. I also did some reading about his life. I listened to three messages by Chuck Swindoll yesterday entitled “Sheep Among Wolves, What to Expect” (parts 1, 2 and 3).
Thank you for preparing us here, Dee, for the days ahead.
He will never, no never, no never forsake us. Hebrews 13:5 Some scholars say that this is a triple negative (never, never, never) According to C.H. Spurgeon this is a five-fold negative in the Greek, intensifying the meaning one after the other.
The soul that on Jesus hath lean’d for repose,
I will not, I will not desert to his foes;
That soul, though all hell should endeavour to shake,
I’ll never, no never, no never forsake.”
Perfect song, Nila.
Sunday
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I so enjoy all the comforts of home, just like that sweet dog in the picture. For all the stories I’ve read about martyrs and how they suffered for Christ, quite honestly I stand in awe! Could/would I do the same? I think of the verse in Romans 8:17…if we’re to share His glory, we must also share His suffering.” Prepare me dear Lord, as I desire to share in Your glory. This is hard!!
2. What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
It was about 5 -6 years ago, God laid on my heart to bake loaves of banana bread for the my neighbors and put the verse John 6:35, “Jesus said, I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never hunger and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.” Simple, right? No, not when you’re an introvert. I have to admit I was disobedient for a time but knew I had to do it. When I finally did, it was amazing how receptive they all were. I introduced myself, told them where I lived and made sure they read the verse and they were very thankful. The door wasn’t opened to share the gospel at the time but I know my husband and I live in a fish bowl and it’s very important that we live our faith.
What a great example. And yes, hard for an introvert! My friend Lara gave me a facemark that says Jesus Loves Me and I have yet to wear it! 🙂
I love that you reached out to your neighbors like this, Sharon! That would be so hard to do!! I am an introvert too and I have a hard time approaching people I don’t know!! My dogs have helped me to meet many of our neighbors. We have a little turret on our stairway landing and our two shelties love to put their paws on the window ledge and bark at the people walking by! We have LOTS of walkers in the neighborhood. Over the years, I have had people stop me and say “I know where you live” or “I love talking to your dogs”…..at first I was freaked out …. however, I have met many neighbors! We have many international families, but the dogs are a universal and that has been such a good conversation starter! God works in such amazing and fun ways!!
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you. My initial thought is that it would be kind of scary to get that revelation. Being told good job, you’re already poor and afflicted, but now you are about to suffer some more. I guess it would be encouraging and helpful to get a heads up and know that you’re on the right track, but I’d rather have a rebuke about changing my ways. As I continued to think about it, I know that this revelation is for those that really are going to hear “Well done, good and faithful servant.”
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8) To the angel of the church of Smyrna.
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna? The first and the last. The One who died and came to life again. They are doing things right and yet are suffering and will continue to suffer. Just as Jesus overcame and was the victor, they too will overcome and be victorious.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) Their affliction, poverty and being slandered against. How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17) They were rich and were content in that. God said they were wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them. They are faithful and will be given the victor’s crown. They will not be harmed by the second death.
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? It can make you focus more on God as your provider. Regardless of what has happened in the past, you’re still surviving, God is still upholding you. How has it refined you? I was raised in a pretty poor household in a school district that had the children of doctors, lawyers and professional sports players. It has made me more aware of how simple sharing and giving to people can open their hearts and lift their spirits (I remember many holidays where the kids in my family got boxes of food, Christmas gifts and taken out by a church/civil group to buy gifts for our family. As a kid those were some of my best times), but I have never forgotten how being treated like you are substandard can feel as well and it has always affected the way that I look at people who are “less fortunate”.
6. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b? That there are those who say that they are Jews, but are not.
Dawn, thanks for sharing so vulnerable about your childhood, and how you have “never forgotten how being treated like you are substandard can feel.” I am sure that you are able to truly “see” people that we label as “less fortunate” with so much understanding and compassion….empathy.
Dawn, that is such a sweet story about your family. I think it is very true that people can have a certain kind of pride, even if they don’t realize it, that can cause others to feel substandard. I remember feeling that in Junior high…I was tiny and got teased to pieces, even by friends…because I looked like a 6th grader. It was an important lesson that always stayed with me. It really hurt, but gave me a heart for other shy ones who were new to school or church. Thank you for sharing.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
“Suffering is part of His good plan for He has eternity in mind.” Suffering scares me too. I can look back at the suffering I’ve had so far and I can see His hand, His carrying me, but I still don’t want more. And yet, I know. So I remind myself I have a Home that awaits with no more tears. And I try not to let myself imagine the worst but when I do I try to work through it enough to realize I would still be OK, even if, because I do have Him and He has me, and I must try to keep eternity in mind.
2. What has helped you move out of a comfort zone and into risky territory for Jesus? Be specific.
Always what comes to mind is our adoptions, but most specifically Philip’s. It sounds silly but what helped me decide to “jump” was the thought that He could return at any moment and I will have a Home free of all trials, but I imagined Him and thought—I don’t want to have just tried to always go the path that looked the easiest…I didn’t want to be living my life as if comfort and as if having my life resemble a calm glassy lake was the ideal. We can’t make that happen anyway, but there was a moment when I realized I was trying to get that here on earth and it struck me that is not the point. I wanted to be spent at the end, used up for His purpose. Then we will have far more than a glassy calm lake one day.
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.
“I know your tribulation and your poverty”- He sees our suffering, He knows
“but you are rich”-He gives eternal perspective
“Do not fear what you are about to suffer.”- He warns us there will be suffering
“Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.”-He promises eternal life.
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer: A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8)
the angel of the church in Smyrna
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
“the first and the last, who died and came to life”-Jesus knows suffering beyond what any of us will ever know.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17)
“you are rich”-they are Spiritually full, unlike Laodicea who were stale, stagnant, repulsive
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
“I will give you the crown of life.”
“The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.”
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
Suffering has humbled me and stripped the older-brother-ish-ness out of me. I see my weaknesses, my failures, and I see I am no better than anyone else. I went through times of feeling shame that I don’t have a pretty picture of a perfect family, and I’ve been completely off from my extended family—it all has left me feeling small and broken, messy. But thankfully by His mercy He has used all of it I have more empathy for others, but most of all I know how great my need of Him is. I am so weak and fail in so many ways, but I rest more and more on His mercy and grace towards me.
6. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b?
They say they are Jews but are not, rather they slander the Christians and worship Satan.
Wow! So much of what you have written is such an encouragement to me to move forward and keep heavenly minded especially when speaking of suffering “but I still don’t want more. And yet, I know”… ” I wanted to be spent at the end, used up for His purpose. Then we will have far more than a glassy calm lake one day.” Thanks for this, Lizzy!
I loved this post Lizzy, the first paragraph brought tears.
Such powerful thoughts, Lizzy. Yes, someday we will have a home free of all trials. I think we all fear suffering . I feel the older I get, the more I rely on the Lord every minute and I praise Him in my thoughts constantly. The trials in this world seem to be increasing everywhere, but He is able.
I just want to say I found the Polycarp movie very meaningful. Though I found it a bit simplistic (probably meant for children), it helped me put myself in their setting and situation. They were people just like us with fears and doubtings and failures, just like us.
Thanks, Diane. I’m glad. I felt the same.
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8)
“To the angel of the church in Smyrna…”
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
He is the first and the last who died and came to life. It might be a reminder of why they persevere; for eternity.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17)
They are able to recognize those who claim to be Jews but are not. The Laodiceans thought they were self sufficient, needing nothing. They were in tune with gem selves and others.
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
Their works, patient endurance, against evil, able to spot false witnesses, and hate the things that God hates.
Didn’t they forget “…the works they had done at first?” Isn’t that a rebuke?
Laura, I think you are studying the wrong verses. The church of Smyrna is Rev. 2:8-ll.
Ahhh, thanks Diane. I was looking at the wrong passage for the last question 🤷🏻♀️. Tired.
D. They were rich even though they had tribulation and poverty. It is implied that they are strong in their faith.
They are promised the crown of life if they persisted.
Monday: The First and the Last, who died and came to life again
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.What stood out to me was “Do not fear what you are about to suffer.” Also that the devil is the one throwing them into prison.
4. Read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
5. Now, read Revelation 2:1-7 and answer:
To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8)
The angel of the church at Smyrna
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
He is described as the first and the last, who died and came to life.
That Jesus is before and after, they may, they will, suffer and even be killed, but Jesus actually holds the power over death.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17)
That though they are physically poor they are spiritually rich.
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
They are told that they are known by the Lord.. That some of them will be tested… unto death. That those who are faithful will be given a crown of life. That the Spirit will be speaking, that those who conquer will not be hurt.
6. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
I have been refined in seeing the earthly things I run to for the empty cisterns that they are. When suffering is at its worst, one realizes how worthless most of what one pursues really is. There is no hope apart from Christ. God’s sovereignty means so much more to me. My wrong thinking, that as one who tried to live as I should would protect me from the worst sort of things was exposed. My house was standing, built on the rock, but all the stuff inside was blown away. I look at those promises of protection now as more of an eternal nature, and not always for the here and now.I suppose they way it has made me rich is in hope, I pray often that I will overflow with hope.
7. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b?
That they are a synagogue of Satan.
8. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
The true gospel is not one of prosperity or ease.
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
I can find a way to help and feel good that I am doing God’s work.
Last night I heard something that made me pause. It was about the current Pope. It was a comment from a famous journalist who has his own podcast. He is Catholic and he was pressing the point that the Pope is not political, rather he only cares about helping the poor. He is from South America where the poor are truly poor. I am not poor, and I don’t believe anyone in the US comes close to the poor of his world. It makes me sad, but really, what can I do other than pray for those people? I am not a wealthy person who could go to those countries to do something. The US does give other countries money, so I contribute in that manner. Unfortunately some countries are corrupt and that money doesn’t make it to the actual people. Our church supports missionaries too, from all around the world. I guess I think we all have different gifts in different areas so we should use those gifts to the best of our ability. My world may be the place I need to help 🤷🏻♀️.
Laura, I often feel this way, too. At a loss as to how to help “the world”. Once, while listening to a podcast, the guest said something his grandmother taught him: the “three foot rule”, meaning who is three feet in front of you? While we can give money to help missions around the world, we can also encounter people literally right in front of us who need help. One example, and this was several years ago, my next-door neighbor who is a school secretary, was telling me about a woman who came into the office and was saying she couldn’t afford to purchase the long list of school supplies that families are told to buy before the start of the new school year. I was buying the supplies for my kids, and I thought, how easy is it for me to go to Walmart and buy for this woman’s child, too? So I did, and I gave the stuff to my neighbor. I told her to just give it to this woman, and don’t say who or where it came from.
Wow, Susan, your story gave me goosebumps! Thank you for sharing. I agree that is a good way to think. What a smart grandma 😉. By the way, how is your grand baby?
Thanks for asking, Laura….I was there for four days, in NC, about a week ago. He’s grown so much since I was there in February! He’s discovered how to do the “raspberries”.
What a beautiful way to give, Susan! I love the “three foot rule”. What a precious gift you are to others. I love reading about all of you dear neighborhood missionaries. 🙂
Laura, although my family did not have very much when my siblings and I were growing up, we never had gone hungry for a meal. My parents tried really hard to provide for us. When my Dad passed away at the age of 54, Mom saw to it that we get an education past high school. Her sacrifices made each of my accomplishments precious and the difficulties more refining. The worldly poverty caused me to value what I had and nobody could take away the “richness I felt inside”. For sure the Lord saw my Mom and us and took care of us all.
The way you have taken care of your grandchildren is a gift. You are gifting the world of people within the three feet rule (thanks, Susan for sharing your story about the school supplies). Your students are within three feet of you as well.
Monday
3. Read Revelation 2:8-11 aloud to yourself, then meditate, then share what stands out to you.
”He knows…their poverty (but you are rich);” Why are so many churches preaching prosperity? “You will have tribulation 10 days.” The devil may throw them into prison, which I believe God allows, but God sets the time period. It reminds me of Job, when God allowed Satan to do what he wanted but he couldn’t lay a hand on Job! It is good for me to remember that God is the One who is in control and to be comforted by His words. “Do not fear…”
4. Now, read Revelation 2:8-9 and answer:
A. To whom is the letter addressed? (Rev. 2:8)
To the angel of the church in Smyrna.
B. How is Jesus described and why might this be relevant to Smyrna?
He is described as the First and the Last, Who was dead and came to life. The things of this earth are only temporal. He is eternal and we have eternal life.
C. For what are they commended? (Rev 2:9) How is this the opposite of Laodicea? (Rev. 3:17)
They’re commended for their works, tribulation and poverty (but you are rich). They say they are rich and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing, but yet they are wretched, miserable poor, blind, and naked.
D. There is no rebuke to Smyrna, only promises. Find them.
They will be given the crown of life and not be hurt by the second death.
5. How can worldly poverty and suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
It can make me spiritually rich, dependent upon God to meet my needs.
It has made me realize that I’m not in control and am humbled by His great Sovereignty. But He continually refines me, removing the impurities and back in the heat for more refining. He does this so He will be seen in us…do others see Jesus in me?
6. In the beginning of the church, Jews and Christians were closely aligned, but that has changed by the time John is writing. Jews are actually turning Christians in for not worshipping the emperor. What does Jesus say about them in verse 9b?
He knows the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not. They are the synagogue of Satan.
Monday
7. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
Tribulation refers not to a particular time period immediately prior to the return of Christ, but to a regular feature of church life.
7. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
That one of the central messages of Revelation, relevant to us today as well, is that faithfulness to God, though costly in this life, brings an eternal reward that will far outweigh any earthly suffering.
8. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church At Smyrna and share the main points.
Jesus warns the members of this church of coming persecution. He exhorts them to remain faithful and they will then be rewarded with the crown of life.
Jesus tells them to not be afraid, echoing the way God addressed Israel in the OT through the prophet Isaiah, and this indicates that Christians are the new Israel.
The true gospel is not a prosperity gospel.
The ultimate goal of suffering is so that you may be tested, expressing the sovereign purpose of God in our suffering.
Suffering proves our faith to be genuine.
9. Read Revelation 2:10-11
A. What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why?
They will suffer imprisonment, persecution, and even death. This will be to test their faith to prove it is real, genuine, and will result in their ultimate deliverance and reward.
B. What does “ten days” mean?
Per Dr. Campbell, the ten days is an allusion to the testing of Daniel in the OT, when Daniel asked that he and his friends be given only vegetables and water to eat for ten days (refraining from eating at the king’s table), to show that they would remain healthy because they were following God’s commands.
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
They will be given the “crown of life” – eternal life, and will have nothing to fear from the second death – the final judgment.
I was away for the weekend with my daughters. Got to see Lizzy in person on my long layover in Charlotte. So fun! But that’s why I haven’t been commenting as much — just catching up.
Hope you had a wonderful time with your daughters and what a special treat to meet up with Lizzy! I really didn’t notice that you weren’t commenting as much but do look forward to how you respond to each of us.
So glad to know that you had that opportunity, hope it was a wonderful time 🥰
I can’t access the Tim Keller video.
I am loving this study.
Thanks for letting me know, Patricia. If you still can’t, try going here. His is the last sermon:
https://www.monergism.com/topics/mp3-audio-multimedia/00-new-testament-sermons-book/revelation/chapter-revelation/revelation-0?page=1
I just watched the Polycarp movie and found it refreshing in its innocence. I thought all the actors did a great job. It was interesting to see how they portrayed the early church, their meetings and helping the poor. I also thought it very pertinent for today, could see it happening in our country. Polycarp copying what the apostles had written seemed like a wonderful way of it getting into his heart (I know Lizzy likes to write the scripture out and can see why), although I know that wasn’t why he was doing it. Encourage y’all to watch it.
First off, I have to say I am having a really hard time getting my study done week to week. I don’t know if I should have held back for a time, or this is just an attack from the evil one. We’ve needed to do more travel than I anticipated, between the 4hr trip in one direction dealing with my sister’s estate, and the 5hr in the other direction for some things with our son’s family. I find it impossible to fit more than reading responses into travel days. I hate it, because I made a commitment, and that is important to me. I see parallels to our journey with Jesus, though. I made a commitment to Him, and there is much I didn’t foresee that enters into the struggle. BUT…. the beautiful thing is, He made a commitment to me, and He will not quit or give up. So I can have hope!
3. Revelation 2:8-11. I can hear Him soothing me, saying, “I know; I know…” He knows better than we do both what we are facing and what we will face. He knows our strength level and our tendency toward fear. I can rest in Him.
4. A. This is addressed to the angel of the church in Smyrna.
B. Jesus is described as the first and last, who had died and come to life again. This is one of the verses I have in my mind to respond to Jehovah Witnesses. They claim that Jesus is not God, just God’s son, and that He did not bodily rise from the dead. But here, Jesus claims for Himself God’s attributes, and that He did rise. The fact that He is God, and not just another god recognized by Rome had to be very reassuring for the people, pressured as they were to worship Caesar.
C. They were commended for being rich in the ways that matter eternally. Also for standing for truth despite pressure. On the other hand, Laodicea was condemned for thinking they were rich and not realizing their need.
D. The promise is of the crown of life, which keeps them from being hurt by the second death.
5. How can poverty/suffering make you rich? How has it refined you?
There are Old Testament verses that talk about God refining us in the furnace of affliction, of having the ‘dross’ of lesser things burned away from us. Maybe it is a picture of Paul saying that our lesser deeds will be burned up, but us coming under that fire while we live and can benefit from it and not just after we die. Any kind of affliction causes us to see our lives from a different lens. Just as some have written here, even this week, we see priorities and even our complaints from His perspective and not our own.
6. Jesus says that those who claim to be Jews but advocated emperor worship were not really Jews at all, but a collection of Satan worshippers. I hadn’t known before that there had been a shift, and Jews not holding to monotheism.
The quote from Joni… God’s purpose isn’t to make us healthy, wealthy, or even happy, but rather to make us holy. When I hear this, I remember that holy doesn’t necessarily mean perfect. It means to be set apart for God and His purposes; to be devoted to Him. Not to ourselves, and certainly not devoted to the world. A continual challenge for me.
Mary, please know you are in my prayers. I too have committed and know your frustration when you get behind. I also look forward to what you have to say, so glad you’re here!
Mary, I am struggling too. It is a very hectic time of the year for my work and family.
The way I stay in the game is to “eat the elephant.” In the morning, I may only have time to complete a couple of questions. Late morning to lunch maybe I answer another. Finally, in the evening I answer a few more. I find that I am engaged all day long that way. I usually don’t finish until late Saturday. I have missed reading comments in this study because of the wealth of info we are learning though. I figure that I knew little to nothing before this, so anything gleaned is better than that!
Laura-DITTO! “ I figure that I knew little to nothing before this, so anything gleaned is better than that!”
My thoughts exactly!
I will pray for you, Mary. You have a lot on your plate. (I feel I am always behind….) I always love reading your thoughts. Dealing with estate issues is not easy.
9. A. Jesus tells they are about to suffer prison and/or persecution. He says it is coming from the devil.
B. The ten days is a reference to the ten days Daniel and his friends were ‘tested’ to show that they could abstain from eating food sacrificed to false gods and still be healthy. It also puts a limit to the test, giving us hope that our trials will not last indefinitely.
C. What are the promises to the faithful? Even if we die in our trials, we will have the crown of life.
7. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
In the sovereign purposes of God, even what Satan tries to do is under God’s control. Suffering is used to test and prove our faith.
8. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church at Smyrna and share the main points.
Tribulation does not refer to a particular period right before Christ’s return but to a regular part of the Christian’s life. But is we are faithful, we are promised the crown of life.
9. Read Revelation 2:10-11
A. What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why?
He tells them that Satan is going to throw some of them in prison for a time, but not to fear because He promises them eternal life.
B. What does “ten days” mean? (We know it isn’t literal, but still, meant to give hope.)
A defined amount of time, temporarily.
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
The crown of Life and they will not be hurt by the “Second death”.
7. In Mystery Explained, read the rest of what Dr. Campbell writes under The Church at Smyrna and share what stands out to you.
“The true gospel is not one of prosperity or ease. Christianity is counter-cultural and commitment to Christ is costly, perhaps even to the price of one’s life.” This is scary to me, but how else can I live? I am a Christian. I have no choice but to press into my faith and hope for the best. It is all I know. He mentions the ones being martyred today. I just hope in the end I am not a coward.
Tribulation refers to the 10 days (short) of Daniel. He references several scriptures that depict short length sufferings in the NT. Therefore, we have a short time of suffering in our lives if we believe, but if we remain faithful, we receive the crown of glory!
I meant to say crown of life.
8. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church at Smyrna and share the main points.
I guess I got mixed up in the last question of Monday’s post? I thought I was supposed to read the entire portion of the church at Smyrna? Oh well, I will comment on another bit I found interesting.
In paragraph 1 he tells of the Jews “tattling” on their Christian neighbors. How sick! It reminds me of some places here in America where people were doing that this past year about the virus. Doubly sickening.
9. Read Revelation 2:10-11
A. What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why?
They will have a short tribulation. It will happen because we have “ears that hear” and we listen to the Spirit.
B. What does “ten days” mean? (We know it isn’t literal, but still, meant to give hope.)
Just a short time, like in Daniel.
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
The faithful will receive the crown of life. The will not be harmed in the second death.
9. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church at Smyrna and share the main points.
Jesus is speaking
Jesus is divine
Jesus sees the hardships
Some ‘false Jews’ were persecuting the church
The church was encouraged not to fear though the trials were going to intensify even unto death
The tying of the statements in Isaiah of God being first and last to the command do not fear- now being given to the. Church points to Christians now being Israel.
The gospel is costly, counter cultural and not a way to prosperity and ease in this life.
God is sovereign – the enemy defeated
The believers will be tested- but ultimately the hard things will be turned upside down
The ten day tribulation reference is not literal but a reference to Daniel and his friends being tested but resisting Idolatry
We cannot expect to be exempt from tribulation
Faithful believers will receive a crown of life, far outweighing the suffering
10. Read Revelation 2:10-11
What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why? Prison & deathThey are being tested and will be protected and rewarded
B. What does “ten days” mean? (We know it isn’t literal, but still, meant to give hope.)
The test will have an end
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
A crown of life, the Spirit of God speaking to them, and that they will be protected even as the worst things happen
Great answer. The test will have an end!
Chris, “the test will have an end.” Oh so encouraging. 10 days.
I couldn’t link Keller’s sermon either. I went to monergism.com, then followed links to Revelation sermons and looked for Keller. He was on page 2. Try this link: http://media1.wts.edu/media/audio/rv102-copyright.mp3. This is where I found it. A second link if that does not work. https://www.monergism.com/topics/mp3-audio-multimedia/00-new-testament-sermons-book/revelation/chapter-revelation/revelation-0?page=1
Thanks, Diane!
Another good sermon by Keller. I’m not finished yet but already convicted. Keller says, if our plans go awry, we think there is no purpose. Wow! Is that ever applicable to life in a pandemic. We cannot do what we want, so we grumble, get angry and/get depressed; instead of trusting God.
Tuesday
8. Read the rest of Dr. Campbell’s second paragraph concerning The Church at Smyrna and share the main points.
I think I accidentally answered this above. On the kindle it is hard for me to tell where a paragraph begins and ends.
9. Read Revelation 2:10-11
A. What does Jesus tell them they are about to suffer and why?
The devil will throw some of them in prison to test them.
B. What does “ten days” mean? (We know it isn’t literal, but still, meant to give hope.)
Its only for a short time, but His timing is different from ours. This is interesting to me because He doesn’t promise them they will come out alive, so their hope had to be in the eternal.
C. What promises are given to those who are faithful?
That even when facing death, He will give them the crown of life.
Thanks for that kindle feedback. I’ll try to be helpful by noting a phrase.
Yes! Thank you Dee. If you could give the first few words (as you have been doing) that helps.
I had a hard time finding the sermon. I’m not sure I have the right one. Is it called the “Cosmic King?” Thank!
No — it is called The Letter to Smyrna and it is on the monergism site which I’m having trouble giving the link to — but I’ll try again:
https://www.monergism.com/topics/mp3-audio-multimedia/00-new-testament-sermons-book/revelation/chapter-revelation/revelation-0?page=1
If you go to monergism, type in New Testament, then Revelation 2 — it is the last sermon.
Thanks! The Cosmic King was an excellent sermon on Revelation though….!
Good to know!
Wow, Polycarp. I had never heard of him. I cried in the first scene. The way the people were treated; the children.
It was a sweet story of how we are to treat each other.
Interesting that he kept the scrolls safe and was responsible for them until the end.
The invitation to the Roman soldiers to eat with the family.
Polycarp’s death – apparently the fire wouldn’t catch so they ended up stabbing him with a spear.
The legacy passed on.
This is a test
11. Listen to the Keller sermon above and share your comments and notes. You can break it up into two days.These are the things that resonated most with me, I have listened multiple times to this one.
That my problems are there to reveal my heart, what I treasure- am I building on the Rock
Suffering is an occasion for covenant renewal
There will not in the end be any injustices
Americans abort discomfort -one would be better off dead
Self denial is the new obscenity
Suffering shows you your god
That when my life is disrupted I think there is no plan, or that I have a better one
I’m sure it must resonate with you. And how good to know in the end there will be no injustice.
10. Listen to the Keller sermon above and share your comments and notes.
Keller said that the letters to the churches echo the OT in that they are comprised of three parts in regards to “covenantal language”:
The Lord describes Himself
The requirements
Blessings and curses
To the church at Smyrna, Jesus says “there is something on the horizon and I want you to see it.” The thing on the horizon is suffering. To all of us, the occasion of suffering is an opportunity to bring out the covenant for renewal (or renewing your relationship with God).
The church at Smyrna is experiencing poverty and slander. Perhaps, by living out their faith, some in the church are losing their jobs, or their homes are being vandalized.
It doesn’t matter what your idols are; Satan will find a persecution or a suffering after the dearest things of your heart.
How Christians handle suffering is of utmost importance. Is your life really built on the rock, or the sand? How you handle your troubles is a very important test. Do unbelievers around you wonder where your inner strength comes from? Or, if you get uncomfortable, do you feel as if life is over? Hardship, to most Americans, is an obscenity.
This letter is really about Jesus: I AM, I know, and I will give.
I am the First and the Last: that means there is an order to suffering; He is in charge. Jesus means “everything started with Me, and everything is going to Me, so there will be no wasted moments.” The “10 days” of suffering means that the suffering won’t go on forever, but only for a set period of time. Satan, of course, would like the suffering to go on forever, but God is over-ruling.
But when our plans go awry, we think there is no purpose, no goal. We have our plans – so does God. John Newton said, “It’s much more difficult to believe that God is involved in our little trials than in the big ones. Disappointment, when translated into English, is little more than the grumblings of self-will versus God’s wisdom.”
I know your afflictions means that there is a loving purpose in your suffering. The stoic says: keep a stiff upper lip; it was inevitable. “I know” means “I understand them – I’ve been through them.” Afflictions refine your faith, making it more valuable and pure. Everything that comes into your life you need – do you really believe that? You have to say, “Lord, I’m sorry that You had to do this. I know that I need it. It’s the only way I’m going to grow.” (Whew – I think we have to be careful here. I can’t imagine, for example, someone who has lost a child saying “Lord, I’m sorry that You had to do this…I know that I needed this.” That makes God out to be a monster, in my opinion. I believe that the “theology of suffering” sometimes goes too far, in that there are things that are purely tragic and sad and I’m just not agreeing with Keller on this statement. How about resting in the sure belief that we have a God who wants to be with us in suffering?)
Keller also said that no one will realize he or she is a sinner without suffering; it never happens by being told. Well, the day I “saw” my sin was a result of reading the Bible and I believe the Holy Spirit showed me. I don’t remember that I was suffering anything at the time.
Christians only grow when they are “whacked”. (This also bothers me.)
Keller also said that your irritating boss, or your “bad marriage”, is to “confront you with yourself – your pride, self-sufficiency, your need to be in charge, confront you with your idols. The reason your having the problems you’re having is to show you yourself, your ‘flab’ in the gymnasium.” (Again, we must be careful here, because pastoral advice to too many women in emotionally or physically abusive marriages is that it is on the wife to somehow make it better – pray more, submit more, what is she doing wrong to cause his sinful behavior?)
Suffering also shows you your Savior. What we have really built our lives on is revealed through suffering, and we make a shift in our “house” over to the rock.
Jesus promises a “crown of life”. What He is saying is, “Obey with understanding.” When you suffer, obey. Don’t let go of the means of grace – stopping prayer, service, means of growth, fellowship. These things are very important to stay with during suffering.
Obey with understanding – I know there is a purpose in this, I need to examine myself. Know that Jesus took the second death so that I will never have to.
“Obedience with grumbling is still flinching under the knife.” (After reading Gentle and Lowly, hmmm…..I know we are not to stay permanently in a grumbling state during trials, but sometimes things are really hard. And I’m not talking about life’s little inconveniences, like oh, my washer or dryer just broke down. Doesn’t Jesus gently and with compassion meet us in our suffering, whether we are suffering from our own sin, or from things beyond our control, or from the sinful behavior of others done to us? He can help us get our eyes off of our situation and onto Him. He will not turn away from us even when we begin with grumbling.)
I empathize with your objections. I know God is sovereign, so this can be a lot to get our heads around. But I think the bottom line is to trust Him in the midst of suffering. I have heard Keller speak recently about his own suffering, and he talks about how he and Kathy would go through this again for the joy they have found in Him. That’s pretty amazing. For chances are, this is the end of this life for Keller.
Overall, I thought it was a good message, and yes, I thought perhaps he gave it at a time prior to what he is going through now. It was just those 2-3 statements that didn’t sit right with me. Sometimes I just feel okay with not having to have an “answer” to the “why” of suffering, and I may not like another’s explanation. I do believe that God is with us in our suffering, that He wants to be with us in it. I don’t always feel the need to ask God why He had to let it happen.
Susan, Thinking about how this sermon seems to have pricked you. I think the things you’re objecting to aren’t exactly what he meant. The hard thing is, we are such limited creatures using limited language to try to explain the God of all the universe, Who has no limits. Having listened to Keller a fair amount, I’ve heard him often change course in the middle of an explanation, searching for the right way for a particular audience to hear the truth of scripture.
I agree that some things look to ‘be just tragic or sad’, yet if I stop there, this life becomes capricious and anything can happen without reason or purpose. Yes, Keller agrees with you that God sits with you in suffering. He is gentle and lowly. And He tolerates – or has tolerated a lot! – of grumbling from me. But there have been a couple of notable times when He told me that my complaints were crossing the border from telling Him how I felt to indulging in bitterness toward Him for His choices in my life. Maybe others haven’t been as naughty as I have been, but I know that I don’t grow without pressure. I asked Him once why it always needed to be so difficult. He said that astronauts in space lose muscle because they aren’t fighting gravity. I can’t develop spiritual muscle without fighting the gravity of sin and going through suffering. All the more to make me look forward to heaven!!
sorry for the book here…. just sharing from my heart.
Susan–I so appreciate your thoughts and good notes. When I listened, I wondered when it was recorded because it seemed like a “younger” Keller to me, not quite the same with his delivery. You’ve clarified what I was feeling, the parts that seemed more rough. And I love what you said here “He will not turn away from us even when we begin with grumbling.” So thankful for His grace, because I am often grumbling in trials.
I had some similar question marks as I listened, particularly when the seeming admonition not to grumble followed up with an admonishment not to be a stoic. I have been trying to untangle this stuff in my own heart for a long time.
I went searching on the internet for the “grumblings of self-will versus God’s wisdom” quote and came up with so many interesting things. I thought that I needed to think and pray on these things before I commented much. I thought about George Mueller getting happy in the Lord and about Paul having learned to be content whatever his circumstances .
I have learned, or have begun to learn, to bring my emotions to God and process them in his presence, but perhaps in some ways there are ways I need to be active in the process of growing up.
I am not sure how much sense this will make to anyone but me 🙂
Thanks Susan for being so through in your notes and comments.
Susan, thank you for your thorough notes. This week, I felt like how some of my students might have been feeling at times. They are too busy and couldn’t get their homework done so they ask for notes from their classmates. Hah. So that is what I am doing this week. Reading everybody’s notes and trying to process things in relation to Smyrna and what Jesus had to say to them. The book and Keller were just too much for me to read this week. I hope I can catch up next week now that school is out.
Wednesday/Thursday
10. Listen to the Keller sermon above and share your comments and notes. You can break it up into two days.
Below are my notes…
This is a covenant of renewal not lawsuit.
How believers respond to suffering is very important. Whether your faith is lip service or not.
We need to understand suffering through Jesus. I am the first and the last…there’s order to suffering, purpose
Order of suffering…He’s the first and the last.
Everything that comes into our life has an order to them.
Loving purpose of suffering…He knows our affliction. Afflictions refine faith and makes us more valuable and pure.
“Everything is necessary that He sends, nothing is necessary that He withholds.” ~ Newton
Sycamore fruit only ripens when it’s whacked. Christians are like sycamore fruit.
How do Christina’s ripen when they’re whacked
Without suffering you’d never see you’re a sinner. No one has learned they’re a sinner by being told. “Spiritual growth can only be tested, it can’t be measured .” ~Packard
Our suffering/problems aren’t there to confront others but to confront ourselves…there to confront us with our pride, our self-sufficiency, your need to be in charge, with your idols. Stop blaming others.
Suffering shows you your savior/god. 1% of your house is built on the rock and the rest on the sand (your success etc). Suffering comes along and shifts your house so you move 3% of your house on the rock.
“God feeds us with hunger, He fattens us with famine. Lord destroy my fools heaven here on earth, so I can enjoy Your heaven forever.” ~ Samuel Rutherford
Obey with understanding, it’s time to look at my purpose, my pride and know that suffering is what the Bible says will happen.
When you suffer…obey. Which is hard to do as we tend to want to run away. If we obey, it will strengthen our faith. Stay in the word, in prayer, in fellowship, in ministry, in witnessing. Don’t slide into sin that makes you feel better and helps escape your suffering.
“1 ounce of sin is more dangerous than 100 tons of suffering.” ~ Spurgeon
When you sin under suffering, your flinching. Just like being under the knife of a doctor cutting out cancer, you flinch and that same knife could kill you.
Jesus, the only person who could of complained and had self pity but instead He humbled Himself, gave up His glory.
If your suffering and trying to figure out why (maybe meeting the person you’re supposed to marry in the hospital), you’re still on the throne of your life. In Job Satan said, “does Job serve God for nothing?” Gods response was, “take his stuff away. ”The point of Job, God can make men into servants. A servant says I suffer for You Lord, not for me, not for any purpose, I owe it to You.
Be subject to God to experience real joy…
So good from Sharon, which certainly agrees with Romans 8:29.
If your suffering and trying to figure out why (maybe meeting the person you’re supposed to marry in the hospital), you’re still on the throne of your life. In Job Satan said, “does Job serve God for nothing?” Gods response was, “take his stuff away. ”The point of Job, God can make men into servants. A servant says I suffer for You Lord, not for me, not for any purpose, I owe it to You.Be subject to God to experience real joy…
Thank you for your notes, Sharon. “1 ounce of sin is more dangerous than 100 tons of suffering.” Spurgeon
I just bought Dee’s Chloe book! Dee, wasn’t sure if it was ok to post a link here or in the FB group maybe? So excited! 🙂
I sent out a letter with a link. You are the best, Lizzy.
Lizzie, was wondering if I could be part of this FB page?
Lizzy, is it possible to join this Facebook group?
Sharon-yes! Diane is the admin, I will email her and she can add you. I am not active on facebook at all except for a group I’m in for Philip’s disease and then Dee’s prayer group, just saying that so you know you don’t have to be active on FB to be able to follow it and share prayer requests–it’s such a blessing to have that space and I would so love you to be a part of it!
Thank you so much!
Sharon-I let Diane know and she said she is working on it, she and Renee are the only ones who can add people, I believe. Are you on FB already?
Hi, Sharon, sorry to not respond sooner. I would be glad to add you to our group. Are you already on FB? Because, if not, you need to join. I need your email address in order to add you. Please send it to me privately via My email address. Mine is datrails@gmail.com.
Sharon, the name of our FB group is Dee’s Bible Study Friends. Can you search for the group on FB and request membership? I will check regularly for member requests and try to add you that way.
I love the Tim Keller sermon. I took so many notes! I liked his quotes by John Newton: “Everything is necessary that He sends; Nothing is necessary that He withholds.”
There is nothing easy about suffering, for sure. I think I handle it better looking back at it than when I am in the middle of it.
I love that Keller says Jesus is more than king ~ Jesus is involved in your suffering~ He is lovingly involved and allowing it for a purpose. That is hard to comprehend….I am inspired when I think of how Tim and Kathi Keller are dealing with Tim’s illness.
I do think we are being refined daily by Jesus, but I think of the story of the tea cup who started out as a lump of clay. The tea cup was pushed, pulled, baked in the kiln at a high temperature…cooled….glazed…back in the hot kiln….it took a lot to create that beautiful porcelain tea cup. I think of us as tea cups…we will be beautiful for our Savior, but it there is a lot to go through to get there.
It is hard to understand that everything that comes into our life we need. Ouch! He said that suffering confronts us with our pride; our self sufficiency (control), our need to be in charge, our idols. Oh, goodness….I see myself in all those things I don’t like…..
I thought it was so true that during suffering it is hard to obey with understanding…we might stop praying, witnessing, Bible study. Sometimes it is hard to focus when experiencing suffering. I always pray to see beyond my suffering, so I can function.
I also liked: 1 ounce of sin is more dangerous than a pound of suffering. There was a lot of good (and very scary) truth to this great sermon.
Patti–thank you for these great notes! I loved the sermon too but was driving as I listened and didn’t get to write it down. I want to go back and er-listen because it was so full.
This made my eyes fill “the tea cup was pushed, pulled, baked in the kiln at a high temperature…cooled….glazed…back in the hot kiln….it took a lot to create that beautiful porcelain tea cup. I think of us as tea cups…we will be beautiful for our Savior, but it there is a lot to go through to get there.”
I too related to how I want to withdrawal when I am suffering. The introvert in me just wants to crawl even further into my shell. It was a good reminder to hear that’s the worst thing I can do.
And I love your wisdom “I always pray to see beyond my suffering, so I can function.” Sadly, I don’t think I’ve ever prayed that when I am IN it. But I will. It’s so helpful to reach for an eternal perspective and to see outside myself.
I agree with Lizzy, Patti, about how wise to pray when you are in the suffering!
10. Sermon from Keller. Dee, just so you know, I had no trouble accessing the sermon. I think this may be the best sermon I’ve ever heard.
The language in the letters to the churches is the same covenantal form as found in the Old Testament. There is an introduction, where God (or in this case, Jesus) describes Himself. He gives an explanation of what He wants from them, and then lists the consequences for how they proceed; blessings for complying or curses for continuing on in rebellion. In five of the churches, Jesus refers back to the covenant and how they are not keeping it. For the other two churches, Jesus let’s them know that covenant renewal is coming.
When the passage says ‘affliction’, it means a crushing burden. They were already experiencing poverty and low social status, but it is like Jesus saying, ‘you haven’t seen anything yet.’ How we handle affliction is vitally important. This is how the world assesses what we are built on. Do the people around you wonder how it is that you manage so well? Or do you look just like others? If we are truly built on the Rock, we can stand firm. If we are planted on sand, our foundation will be washed away and we fall apart.
In the western world, we don’t think we should ever suffer. Abortion is an example of getting rid of affliction. Suffering has a reason. Jesus, as the first and the last, knows the reason for every affliction. He is totally in charge, and in Him there is loving involvement and purpose. We can obey, understanding that. There won’t be any wasted moments in our lives. Jesus is overruling the devil, and He is overseeing every second.
I am remembering the clip someone shared before about how they refine silver. How the refiner sits right there, removing dross as it shows up, and doesn’t keep the heat on a moment longer than absolutely necessary.
A trial can also be called a discipline. Too often we are arrogant. If it isn’t our plan, we think there is no plan. Little trials become larger, harder, things. We don’t submit to God, instead we get depressed. The word disappointment is a euphemism for grumbling against God. When we say that He knows, we aren’t being stoic. We are relying on His loving involvement and understanding.
Affliction refines you, making your faith more pure and valuable. Isaac Newton said, ‘all He sends is necessary; nothing He withholds is necessary.’ Keller made the point that you need the tough things that come to you. Can we look to God and say, I’m sorry You have to do this to me to make me grow? Without suffering we don’t really understand our sin.
Spiritual growth can never be measured, only tested. (I’ve heard before that testing isn’t for God to find out what we know, but for us to discover it.) Testing is the only way for you to see where you really are at. It reveals and confronts us with our problems, what we are relying on, what are we treating as god? ‘God feeds us with hunger and fattens us with famine.’ It isn’t a bad idea to pray to have your ‘here’ destroyed so that you can really focus on heaven.
Obey God, understanding that He only does what you need. Listen to what He says. Don’t walk away from the disciplines. An ounce of sin is more harmful than 100 tons of suffering. The only thing suffering can do is to ripen you. Don’t sin in your suffering. To sin is to flinch during your surgery. The second death is hell, and Jesus took that for us so that we never have to. He asks that we let go of the things He is working to pry out of our hands. Quit grumbling.
If you are insistent on figuring out the why, you are sitting on the throne. You are asking if the reason for your suffering is worth it. The purpose of suffering is to do it for Him, to be His servant, without any questions. How are you handling your life? Are you completely unprepared for anything that comes? In suffering, we don’t need to be free from it. Rather, we need to be like Him. To not be surprised or angry or amazed, but to see it as coming from the hand of our loving Father.
Great notes, Mary! I don’t know why the link works for some and not others. The mysterious internet.
Mary, this-, ‘all He sends is necessary; nothing He withholds is necessary.’ Thank you for your notes. This quote has given me a better understanding of suffering.
11. The clip on the prosperity gospel.
The whole point of religion in their view is to make you happy and successful, for life to go well for you. We think God is like us, but that is creating a false god. True faith is about dying to this life and what it offers.
Isaiah 55:8-9 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, declares the Lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 29:16 You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, he did not make me? Can the pot say of the potter, he knows nothing?
Luke 9:23-24 then He said to them all: If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for Me will save it.
Friday
11. What lies do you hear? How would you combat them with the truth of Scripture?
(I have put some of the lies I heard in this video in bold, there are many more )
I just cringe at how the gospel is twisted and turned to what some preachers think will attract people…the sad thing is, it does! They put just enough truth in there to tickle the ear, but are leading so many astray. One woman in the video said, “I always thought He died and rose so I could have a prosperous life.” No, 1 Corinthians 15:3b says, “Christ died for our sins…”. 2 Corinthians 5:15, “He died for everyone so that those who receive His new life will no longer live for themselves. Instead, they will live for Christ, Who died and was raised for them.” John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but will have everlasting life.”
This, “who told you, you can’t accomplish your dreams?” First of all its not about me, and what my dreams are, it’s what Gods will is for me. Proverbs 16:9, “We can make our plans, but the Lord determines our steps.” James 4:13-16, “Look here, you who say, today or tomorrow we are going to a certain town and will stay there a year, we will do business and make a profit. How do you know what your life will be like tomorrow? Your life is like the morning fog – it’s here a little while, then it’s gone. What you ought to say is, if the Lord wants us to, we will live and do this or that. Otherwise you are boasting about your own pretentious plans, and all such boasting is evil.”
“Your destiny is calling out, it’s time to start living large.” Romans 12,1,2. “I beseech you therefore brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God”
“Money cometh to you!” 1 Timothy 6:10,11 “For the love of money (not money itself), is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from their faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves with many sorrows. But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness.”
Saturday:
13. How is the Spirit of the Living God showing you how to apply this week’s lesson to your life?
Where I might need to be different. The part in the sermon where he talked about the difficulties in your marriage being a way of refining you, the lord brought to mind another Keller sermon where he talked about Jesus, when he saw something in a person confronted what he saw, but then unlike us, he didn’t withdraw from relationship with them. I avoid confrontation and withdraw like a champion. The Spirit keeps niggling me about this.
As I have been praying about the ways my life might be used, I remembered that I bought Rosaria Butterflies book on hospitality and that I had purchased all the stuff for one of Rebecca Pippert’s seeker friendly bible studies when I was at a CCEF conference . Perhaps I am being redirected. I don’t want to be lazy.
One more thing I want to share, there was a conversation at work some time ago where one of the girls shared something she had done or thought and said she was going straight to hell, the other woman chimed in with reasons she was too. I felt bad, like really bad, for not taking that opportunity to speak to them about the gospel, but there really wasn’t much time. This week I did have a conversation with on of them that ended with her saying she didn’t know much about the gospel but that she would like to know more. I encouraged here to read the gospels and told her we can talk again. Last Sundays sermon was from the beginning of Acts, and one of the themes was the power of God and how it cam make us uncomfortable but it is what is needed and we need to be unashamed of asking for it. This all seemed so timely. I am praying for this co-worker and for the power of the Holy Spirit to make her hungry, and that I won’t shrink back when opportunity presents itself.
Chris, praying with you in your interactions with these women….
Lord, please flood Chris with your love for these women. Help her to see them as lost lambs You died for. Give her gracious and bold words as she directs them to You.
Wow Chris — I will pray for you — sounds like they would be open. Praying right now!
I will pray for you to have the right words when the opportunity arises again, Chris. I just freeze so often when these kinds of things come up. I am not good with instant answers in those situations.
Chris, that God would give you boldness to speak to this co-worker and the Holy Spirit to guide your conversation,
Chris, you are doing so well in reaching out to your coworkers. I am reading a Rebecca Manley Pippert book called “Stay Salt: The World Has Changed, Our Message Must Not”. I highly recommend the book. I am finding it helpful in rethinking the gospel to help me share God with my non-Christian contacts. She mentions that skeptics often respond to genuine love and a desire for respectful dialogue. With Dee, we emphasizes the need to ask questions to better understand their obstacles to faith. We should casually mention God in ordinary conversation, pray for God to use us, and ask God to open their eyes to the beauty and wonder of the gospel.
Saturday
12. How is the Spirit of the Living God showing you how to apply this week’s lesson to your life?
He’s showing me that suffering is inevitable and that whatever His plan and purpose for me is, I don’t need to fear. I think of how Polycarp reacted to the possibility of being arrested and killed…what a privilege if for the Lord and His glory! A verse from 1 Peter 2 that I memorized as a young mother has always haunted me in a way of what could be around the corner, would I be prepared, is my faith strong enough? He’s talking about being submissive to your master, which could be your boss or even the government. We’re to be submissive with all fear, not only the good and gentle, but also the harsh. Verse 19 goes on to say, “For God is pleased when, conscious of His will, you patiently endure unjust treatment. 20. Of course, you get no credit for being patient if you are beaten for doing wrong. But if you suffer for doing good and endure it, God is pleased with you. 21. For God called you to do good, even if it means suffering, just as Christ suffered for you. He is your example, and you must follow in His steps. 22. He never sinned, nor ever deceived anyone. 23. He did not retaliate when He was insulted, nor threaten revenge when He suffered. He left His case in the hands of God, who always judges fairly.”
I am only on this earth for a short time in the spectrum of God’s timing…what am I doing to bring Him glory?
That’s my application too!
This is one of those weeks when the biggest take-away is the rich depth of you all and all I learn from you here. I love Dawn’s example of praying for co-workers and letting them know. I have that part easy because I work for my church, but it did remind me how I used to tell more people that, grocery clerks, workmen, etc…and it’s a good reminder of how to be light outside my circle.
Laura reminded me that whatever I can glean from these lessons on Revelation is still more than I know now and keep pressing on!
I love this from Sharon “I am only on this earth for a short time in the spectrum of God’s timing…what am I doing to bring Him glory?”
Patti’s faithfulness to mentor Minh, such a beautiful example of bringing Him glory and I will hold onto this: “I always pray to see beyond my suffering, so I can function.”
And I always sit with Chris’ wise words, such gold refined by fire “My wrong thinking, that as one who tried to live as I should would protect me from the worst sort of things was exposed. My house was standing, built on the rock, but all the stuff inside was blown away. I look at those promises of protection now as more of an eternal nature, and not always for the here and now. I suppose they way it has made me rich is in hope, I pray often that I will overflow with hope.”
I would so love the opportunity to be face to face with all of you and I would probably sit silent and just let my ears be filled with your wisdom! But I am so thankful He has given us this space and that we know for sure one Day we will be face to face, forever.
I totally agree with you, Lizzy! I love to drink in all of the beautiful thoughts you ladies share! I have not met any of you, but I think about you all during the week and I often go back and re-read many your responses. I can relate to so many things you are all experiencing and feeling~ we do live in a challenging time. What a rich tapestry it is to know each of you, even from afar! Thank you, Dee, for all that you do in creating these wonderful studies. May you all be richly blessed.
Lizzy — I love that you pulled out comments. I too am so blessed by all of you.
Lizzy, you are a treasure and I agree that one day we will get to rest in each other! Thank You God! However, I am going to talk Dee into some sort of retreat (eventually)! Hahaha! Wouldn’t it be fun to find a resort willing to house all of us and to be able to have a weekend together? I have big plans for us! I have yet to go to Wisconsin; it is one of 7 states I still need to visit. How sweet it would be….
12. How is the Spirit of the Living God showing you how to apply this week’s lesson to your life? I’m seeing more that whether things are going smoothly or aren’t doesn’t reflect my walk with God or how upright He sees me. My experiences are going to happen, my reaction to them are the only thing that matters. I know that He is with me through it all and my job is to walk it because of His perfect love and will for my life.
Such wisdom, Dawn! Yes, it is more important how we respond to events that what happens to us, and our job to walk through it because of His perfect love and will for my life. So profound.
Following mostly along…having to travel and a funeral so I didn’t get to post much. Listened to the wrong (but applicable) Keller sermon. Watched the “Rope” which I have seen before. I decided to send it to my sister. She is showing interest in the last year. The Rope is so true! It is a good, short explanation of why we want to know Jesus. Love it!
Going to listen to the real Keller sermon now….will report back thoughts later today.
Oh! I have been thinking about how to approach my relative about running to God instead of away after losing an adult child a couple of months ago. God answered my prayers in giving a priest that gave an amazing sermon at the funeral yesterday. I heard this relative say to another, “He would make me go back to church…” I couldn’t believe my ears! The other relative concurred! Thank You Lord!
Praise God for the great message from the priest, Laura. What a wonderful answer to your prayer.
What a precious answer to prayer, Laura. Praying with you that God will continue to woo your relative!
11. What lies do you hear? How would you combat them with the truth of Scripture?
There were many lies in this short clip: the worst was the preacher shouting, “Money cometh unto you!” Osteen talked about “Who says you can’t achieve your dreams?” So much of this type of preaching is “me centered” and is more like a Ted talk or self-help talk. Jesus didn’t talk about how to achieve your dreams, or how to be wealthy and successful, and He didn’t even heal everyone – many were left un-healed in His days on earth. He talked about the reign of God, repentance and faith in Him, and how He offered peace, but not the kind of peace that the world offers.
13. How is the Spirit of the Living God showing you how to apply this week’s lesson to your life?
Suffering, or trials, are a part of life, a part of my life. The enemy is always quick to give me reasons to just give up or worse, to back away from God and to isolate myself from others, to believe the lie that no one really cares anyway. Jesus’ message to this church was that He knows their trials are coming. He sees and He cares about them, and He will hang in there right with them, and He also encourages me to stay the course and to do that by staying with Him.
10. Listen to the Keller sermon above and share your comments and notes. You can break it up into two days.
Church in Smyrna – Keller
Jesus is not condemning this church as He does with 5 of the churches. He is asking this church to recommit to the covenant with God.
We don’t know the state of the people. They were suffering but we don’t know why.
They are told that the suffering has really yet to begin.
Christians need to to reflect Jesus in how you handle your struggles. Do people know you are a strong Christian?
Abortion doesn’t just abort the baby, but also aborts the struggles of this life.
This letter, as they all are, is about Jesus: I am, I know, and I will provide the end result. He talks is He is the beginning and the end, He understands the pain, He has been there and done that, and He will be the way to eternity.
There is an order to the events. 10 days is a set period of time. The devil wants the person to be there forever, however Jesus is overruling this in saying 10 days.
When our plans go awry we get disgusted or disappointed. God has it all in order, no worries! Self will versus Gods wisdom.
Some think they are a stoic. No reason to be surprised, acceptance, keep a stiff, upper lip. But this isn’t right….He actually knows and understands what we are going through.
Everything that comes into your life you need. Stoicism says, “hit me again, here it comes….”
How do Christians “ripen?” If you are never hit with a trial, you will not know who you are or how much strength you have. You need to see the real you. In suffering you become rich.
Christians obey with understanding. Jesus says to fear not those who can destroy the body. It’s a picnic compared to hell. I took that. What He asks us to do is to not grumble.
If we humble ourselves, you will bless us.