I woke this morning to post what I had written, and it had disappeared!
So this will be a simpler post than usual, and I ask for your grace.
We will finish up this study of the lament next week, leaving the last chapter of
Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy for you to do on your own.
We will start a new study in September, and for the first time, though it will still be free of cost, it will not be open to everyone. It will be open to all who have been regular and want to participate — but I will need to give you a password. More explanation about why I am doing that and what the study is next week. Truly, I am praying for God to lead you!
(I am more than a little excited about where God is taking us in September.)
This week we will delve into the last chapter of Lamentations. Though we might hope for a resolve, instead we see that God’s people must keep on trusting without a resolution — which is so often our case as well as sojourners in this fallen world.
Lamentations 5 begins with:
“Remember,” throughout Scripture, is a request for God to remember His promises and to keep them. It is the promises of God that keep us keeping on when He is silent. Prepare your heart with this.
Highlights from Last Week:
Julie
I loved Al Mohler’s blog post. How spot-on that is even today. I mentioned this yesterday I believe, that so many people don’t want to hurt the feelings of ‘some’ but in reality, they are hurting ‘others’ by allowing the senseless killings of innocent babies with late-term abortions and getting rid of traditional marriage that God created. I just feel so sad for those that think this is ok.
Denise
Language of Exiles and share what stands out to you. I don’t think I ever realized how much credence or faith I put in being a citizen of the United States. Isn’t this a Christian nation where freedom of religion is embraced? Isn’t this from where missionaries are sent to preach the gospel to heathen nations? Isn’t this the land of milk and honey, where, as long as I lived here, I would feel safe and secure? Putting stock in that, I feel the sands shifting below my feet as this becomes a country I barely recognize. I have made my homeland an idol…a place where I find comfort and security. I love this country…but it is not my Savior.
Sunday:
- What stands out to you from the above and why?
- Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point.
Monday/Tuesday: Remember Your Promises, O Lord
I have been upheld by the promises of God in the midst of grief. I have clung to the promise that He will be a husband to the widow, a father to the fatherless, that He will provide for me as He does the lilies of the field, that one day there will be a perfect new heaven and a perfect new earth, and that there will be no more sin, or death, or grief. All these sustain me, and indeed, He has demonstrated His faithfulness to His promises.
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they?
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it?
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18
E.. What else stands out to you from this section?
Wednesday: But You, O Lord Reign Forever
Pastor Mark reminds us, in this section, of God’s sovereignty and Cowper’s Hymn that says:
I found this wonderful clip from Bonanza, who obviously had a Christian writer:
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible.
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you.
Thursday: Restore Us To Yourself, O Lord
A. How do you see trust in God’s sovereignty in verse 19?
B. How do you see continued complaint in 20?
C. How do you see the turn in 21-22?
D. What thoughts do you have about this book not ending with a resolve to trust?
7. Read the section entitled “Restore Us…” and share what stands out to you and why.
Friday: A Road Map to Christ
8. Read this section and share what stands out to you and why.
9. Take two questions from the end of this chapter and answer them.
Saturday: Take-A-Way
10. What is your take-a-way this week and why?
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1. What stands out to you from the above and why? “Remember” … this has been our plea to God for millennia but it has also been God’s command to us over the millennia… a Grace for Him to insist we remember what He has done in order for us to lean on who He is when we cannot easily see His mighty hand at work.
I am intrigued about September…I am always excited to see “what’s next” though it is never what I speculate it may be. God always meets us here and I a, grateful for the Potter’s hand.
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in chapter 8 and share what you believe to be the main point. There is no ultimate resolution for brokenness apart from Christ. There is no ultimate resolution for brokenness until New Heaven and New Earth. But this Hope is our “solitude for sorrow” and our embrace of Peace until we see His promises fulfilled.
I have been doing this study along with y’all but answering privately in my journal … I did not think I had any “big” reason to lament but an early question by a blog sister has found its answer for me as my prayer life and faith have been refined while studying lament: do we lament only the big things or is lament for all the little things, too? My answer now is that lament serves good purpose in every prayer time. It has redefined prayer for me and has painfully, but mercifully, brought my lack of faith into fine focus. I have appreciated Mark Vroegop’s words.
So good, Jill — wonderful how God uses us to minister to one another.
1. Both of the posts, Julie and Denise’s resonate with me. How difficult to realize the sin of abortion just keeps going on, with so many politicians making it an agenda. We as a nation will suffer for this horrible sin. God may forgive the sinner, but he will punish the nation for accepting it.
This country in which many of us have placed our identity and security(as idols) is now a place that has shifted from what I believed in to an unrecognizable place. No longer can we feel safe and secure. Radicals have been given too many opportunities and destruction is evident.
So true, Shirley. May the Lord bring revival to His own for these times we face.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? I loved the song by Michael Card. I posted it on my Facebook page hoping it would speak to someone with the comment, “He may be silent, but He is never absent from His own.” If I did not say so before, I truly appreciated your guidance to his workshop on lament on YouTube…something I will watch again.
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point. When I read the story of the neighbor who was murdered and the impact lament had on those who were part of that experience, especially non-believers, I was reminded of a story that came out of the Iran hostage crisis. Friends of my parents, Rev. Earl and Hazel Lee, were pastors at Pasadena First Church of the Nazarene and there son, Gary Lee, was one of the hostages. Those of us living then will never forget those days. I was 21. A young woman, Janine Tartaglia, was a career-driven television journalist in the California markets and was eventually assigned to cover this family for her TV station. Janine’s priority was advancing her career. But God (there it is!) had other plans. After interviews the Lee’s would talk to Janine about God, spiritual things, and her own spiritual life which was non-existent in her push for fame and accomplishment. Two days before the hostages were actually released, Janine was advised by the news network to attend Pastor Lee’s church that Sunday in the event if something broke about the hostages, she would be there to cover Pastor Lee’s reaction. Janine went to the service. Something did happen. Her heart was moved and she went forward to accept Christ. She credits what she observed with the Lee’s through these 444 days not knowing if Gary was dead or alive for her coming to Christ. Today she is a pastor.
WOW Denise, amazing how God can work in all lives and turn them toward him.
Great story, Denise.
Love this story, Denise.
Wow, Denise! Thanks for sharing this news about our unstoppable God. Who knows what lives we will touch while walking with Him through the valleys.
What a story Denise! Thank you for telling it. God did have other plans, didn’t he?
Thank you for sharing this story, Denise.
So encouraging.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
One, just your perseverance to press on and still bring us a study today! I might have crumbled and asked for another day!
The words to Michael Card’s song: “When he loses his heart, When he has to remember, What broke him apart, This yoke may be easy
But this burden is not, When the crying fields are frozen, By the silence of God…” and then this “He’s kneeling in the garden, As silent as a stone, And all His friends are sleeping, And He’s weeping all alone, And the Man of all sorrows, He never forgot, What sorrow is carried, By the hearts that He bought”
Just this morning at church, something was said that triggered my feeling of great pain about a loss in my life and I could not hold back the tears. When we got home, my husband reminded me of Hebrews 4:15-16, which fits here with this song, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”
Thank You Lord Jesus that You know our pain, and though it is nothing compared to Yours, You have compassion on us.
You have such a good man, Lizzy.
I so appreciate this study and your words here, Lizzy. I had a similar experience this week with remembering a loss and I’m amazed at how heavy that loss still feels so many years later. How comforting this song is and the scripture you reference. I continue to see the Lord using this study to build my faith ❤️
oh Chris–praying for you as I read this this morning. It is so hard to be reminded that the scars are still able to bring pain, years later. Thankful He has you here.
Sunday
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Oh Dee, so sorry you woke up to find your work had disappeared… appreciate your perseverance to push right through that! Such wise words from Julie and Denise…brought to mind these verses from Psalm 122:1-2,
“I look up to the mountains— does my help come from there?” My help comes from the Lord, who made heaven and earth!”
Great reminder of God’s promises…I’m standing on them!!!
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point.
We may have seasons in our lives where suffering may continue and it seems God is silent but ”we must keep praying.”
Sunday:
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? – Oh the intrigue and anticipation of next week. Looking forward to see where God is leading you with the group Dee. You are a faithful servant, always seeking Him, waiting on Him and listening for Him to lead. I loved the song from Michael Card. How easy it can be for us to think that God has left us when he is silent, but our faith in Him needs to be strong for us to know he hasn’t. We need to take that silence and sift around in it to see what he is trying to teach us. Denise, I missed your comment last week, but wow…“Putting stock in that, I feel the sands shifting below my feet as this becomes a country I barely recognize. I have made my homeland an idol…a place where I find comfort and security. I love this country…but it is not my Savior.” I never thought that our country could become an idol where we feel so angry against what we are seeing, but the hope in it all is that Our God and Savior reigns over it all.
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point. – First I remember that killing, how sad that was for her husband, her family, their friends and the neighborhood. Just more senseless killings because of perhaps selfishness, greed, anger, the list can go on. But what I noticed as he told about this, is what I see a lot when a tragic even occurs, believers and non believers come together and are hurting in the same way. It happens like this all the time, but as soon as the event is faded in to the background, we as believers are exiled again I feel. We are the crazy ones who believe in a Powerful Father we cannot see or even really audibly hear. How sad it is that it takes a tragedy for ALL to come together as one. Lord why can’t be be one all the time?
I think it is fitting that lament conclude with no resolution. This is how our life works, sometimes there are no answers to what we have faced here on Earth. We must not need to know at this point WHY? God knows the timing of everything to be revealed. Hard as this may be, it is always in His timing. It gives me hope though to know that in His Word the answer sits. I am chuckling as this just came to my mind when I reread what I wrote. “Julie, the answer is there, keep digging, keep wanting me more. The answer is in there if you look for it. Talk to you later, God”
I think the main point is that there will be pain and suffering that we have to face that may not be resolved before we leave this world, but turn to Him during it all. There is hope in him and he is faithful to be there as we go through it.
Julie, how beautiful, “the answer is there, keep digging, keep wanting Me more…”! Sometimes I think He is whispering that under His breath to us, wanting us to want Him as much as He wants us.
“He wants us to want Him as much as He wants us.” Those words brought a sob of pain. Why in the world would He want Me? But I dare to believe that He does. How very beautiful.
I agree with you Julie. “the hope in it all is that… God reigns…” Amen and Amen
Julie, the pastor left me wondering if they ever caught the men? Also was there ever a reason for the brutal murder of her?
Love your post!
Julie – I really like what you said, that “We need to take that silence and sift around in it to see what he is trying to teach us.” So true!’
I also agree with your last two sentences of your post here and am reminded of Deut. 29:29, “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.” The secret things – the things that the Lord doesn’t reveal to us – they belong to the Lord. And I have come to see that these are His secrets and I have a picture in my mind that if it’s His secret, He’s holding it as sacred and safe in His hands.
1. What stood out in the introduction? Why?
First was Michael Card’s song. I don’t know the circumstances behind the writing of it, but I know it was personal for him and not abstract. Because of that, it seems to resonate with me more than it might have. The lines, “the aching may remain, but the breaking does not,” I had to really think about. What does this mean? Is it that our pain remains but our hope in God is restored? I’m just not sure what ‘breaking’ means. The part where he says that Jesus never forgot the pain of the hearts He bought, brings me a lot of comfort. That even today, Jesus has it in His mind that my pain is part of why He died for me. Reminds me of the verse that says He has all our tears in a bottle.
Denise, oh, yes, “shifting sands as this becomes a country I barely recognize.” We know we don’t see the US in the end times in the Bible, and intellectually we accept that something happens to take us out of being a world leader, but our hearts really revolt against what we are seeing. To me, it is like when someone is seriously ill. On one hand we pray for healing and restoration. On the other, we acknowledge that God might have other plans. Hard to yield to Him, but so needed.
2. Beginning of chapter 8, and it’s main point.
While we may not get answers or resolution to the pain, we are still offered hope, grace and peace in God. No matter how long it takes. “When brokenness becomes your life, lament helps turn you to God.” Last night we had dinner with some friends who said they think that we are being given a choice, particularly in the US, though I see it for the world as a whole, to either turn to God in repentance now, or go past the tipping point. If, indeed, the future gets even darker, the lessons we are learning in this blog will be crucial to holding on to our faith, and to encouraging others in theirs. There is hope, grace and peace, but it is only in Him.
I remember it being personal for Michael Card too — perhaps a depression. So many of the song-writers and theologians I’ve loved have battled that demon. God brought them through the fire.
2. I believe the main point of A Road Map to God’s Grace is that when answers don’t come quickly we must keep lamenting and asking God. We need to keep praying and help others to do the same.
As always the highlights stand out to me as I am not always able to read all of them when posted.
I believe the main point in today’s reading is keep praying and keep lamenting. It’s not a quick fix or a solution. It’s a process that is based on trust in God’s goodness and faithfulness.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I love Michaels Card’s song! I am partial to pianists since my dad was one. I have fond memories of him playing one of our three pianos when I would walk in the door from school. I like the images of the “cross” in the rocks and the statues of Jesus and His followers. It made me wonder if someone would try to pull them down since rioters have been pulling down many “offensive” statues of late. I also liked the lyrics:
“…it’s enough to make him wonder if he’s ever been saved…”
“But what about the times when even followers get lost? Cause we all get lost sometimes.”
I’m sorry You lost your work, Dee! That’s frustrating! I am also burning with anticipation for our next study 😉!
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point.
I think the main point is that sometimes we don’t get answers. Sometimes life is painful and we must remember that God is good.
Sunday:
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Dee, I am excited about our September study! Like the rest here who commented on it, I cannot wait! I am so glad I am in this group of wonderful women who love the Lord as you all do.
Julie’s and Denise’s highlights sure resonate with me. So sad to see and hear what America is becoming and yet so many are still denying God. And so many are still looking to this nation as an idol as Denise said. “…but it is not my Savior.”
My family in the Philippines has always considered me blessed to have had the privilege of coming and living here. But lately, more and more of my family members are asking me, “what is wrong with the American people?”
Another thing that has stood out to me is that there was no resolution mentioned at the end of Chapter 5. But there was a plea for God to “remember” and to “restore” His people to Himself.
2. Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point.
Lament “tells you where to look and whom to trust when pain and uncertainty hang in the air you breathe.” This means I need to keep trusting God in the midst of my pain or difficulty.
Well, it is easy to find grace for the birthday girl!! You are such an example of grace to us, Dee, because I would be devastated at losing my work! I also can’t wait to see what God has in store for us in September, and hope I can be given a password!
This ending of Lamentations is so fitting for me and is the crux of true Christianity – what differs us from many who profess religion. This is no prosperity Gospel, no ‘name it, claim it’ philosophy. This is where the ‘rubber meets the road!’ The silence of God. When our hearts and hopes are broken and we’re crying out in desperation, longing for a fix and relief from this gnawing pain…..and the pain continues and He is only silent. Oh, God, be not silent unto me! But when You are, help me to quiet my own heart and rest on Your bosom, and in the stillness and hush of that sacred posture, with tears streaming down my face, may I hear Your heart beating with love for me.
You are all so gracious to me!
I agree with Miriam, yes YOU are an example of Grace to us Dee. I love our beautiful group of sisters here!
Miriam, your words ring true. I know a little of what you have been through from Facebook and seen you cling to God, even when he is silent. What an honest prayer of lament! “Oh, God, be not silent unto me! But when You are, help me to quiet my own heart and rest on Your bosom, and in the stillness and hush of that sacred posture, with tears streaming down my face, may I hear Your heart beating with love for me.”
Amen Miriam! Amen Diane!
Amen Miriam.
3. Remember, O Lod.
A. Four examples of God ‘remembering’ His people/promises.
Noah after the flood; God covenanting to never again destroy mankind with a flood; God’s remembering His covenant with the patriarchs after the golden calf; and David asking God to remember His mercy despite the sins of David’s youth.
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent? I chose a few, though I don’t so much tend to keep one verse in mind, but rather the character of God as a whole. When I am in those times, no matter where I am reading, I see things that bring me hope.
2 Kings 6:16-17 don’t be afraid, the prophet answered. Those who are with us are more than those who are with them. And Elisha prayed, O Lord, open his eyes so he may see. Then the Lord opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha…. just because I don’t see God means nothing. He is there.
Job 36:21 Beware of turning to evil, which you seem to prefer to affliction…. worse than not hearing Him is to turn away from Him.
Psalm 42. I won’t write it all out, but talking truth to yourself.
Isaiah 46:4 Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He. I am He who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you. I will sustain you and I will rescue you…. no matter how I age, He has committed to being there.
C. Rehearsing pain has a purpose.
It helps set the context for our calling out to God to remember, to act on our behalf.
D. Some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18.
Our inheritance/home is given to foreigners.
We end up being punished/bearing the sin of others. We become fatherless; orphans.
Even the one we thought would redeem us was trapped.
E. What else stood out in this section?
The request for God to ‘remember’ is more than to just not forget. It was on this blog I learned God remembering is not like us bringing to recollection something that slipped our mind. It is an asking Him to take action on a previous promise. I am so grateful God has preserved Scripture for us, yet I wish we knew better the language and culture that make so much difference in the understanding of a passage. Also, that those who know the story of God’s acting in the past, when He ‘remembered’, should lead the way for others in talking to God about their pain and/or outrage. This is where some of our pain gets redeemed. We who have suffered have the voice of experience and can help others learn the language of lament. Who was it that said God cannot use a man greatly until he has been deeply hurt?
Yes — just remembering the character of God as a whole is so good!
Sunday 1. What stands out to you from above and why? “Though we might hope for resolve, instead we see that God’s people must keep on trusting without resolution…” reminds me of the words of Isaiah 50:10, “who among you fears the Lord? Who obeys the voice of His Servant? (Christians) Who walks in darkness and has no light? (“the dark night of the soul”) Let him trust in the name of the Lord and rely upon his God.” The natural man longs for resolution to the story in this life. But we know the end of the story.
Also, the words in Michael Card’s song when he sings, “The aching may remain but the breaking does not at the holy lonesome echo of the silence of God.” In those season of the dark night of the soul, there is a breaking of idols, a breaking of self, a breaking of the outward man. God is the Master of the Breakthrough/Breaking forth and knows when the breaking is enough. I learned to trust the only One Who keeps me. Even the reliance on and trust in God seems to come from Him. I didn’t have it within me until He created it when He spoke light into my darkness. In the meantime, I am not to “light my own fire.” Is 50:11. The aching hasn’t remained either but it’s more like a longing to see.
Such a good verse from Isaiah. Don’t you just love Isaiah?
Yes Dee, I love Isaiah. I’ve underlined several parts where it says, I’ve called you by name.
He knows my name.
Which reminds me of the beautiful Maranatha song from the 70’s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsiWoyjw60
He knows my name
He knows my every thought
He sees each tear that falls
And hears me when I call ~
Beautiful song, Nila. Thanks for posting it here.
What stands out to you from the above and why?
Denise’s post resonates in talking about looking for safety & security, for salvation even, other than in Christ. People are looking so many places for salvation right now – governments, vaccines. My country has often looked to its status an American ally for safety in international relationships. Not so much at the moment, especially as China has been upping the ante in recent months. Right now in my state, many people are feeling safe behind strict border restrictions. As much as allies, borders and vaccines may help, they offer only temporary respite. Christ is our only Saviour.
Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point.
Persevere in prayer. Keep on taking my complaints about the current situation and longing for God’s better future to him.
Interesting about feeling safe behind borders!
This state has implemented ‘hard’ border controls… very few people can come into the state, even from other states and those that are allowed have to quarantine in a secure hotel for 14 days. There is currently no community transmission of coronavirus here. All cases have been identified while in quarantine. So people are feeling safe from coronavirus – so safe they are becoming complacent about taking infection control precautions.
Happy birthday Susan!! Happy belated birthday Dee! I hope your day is/was exceptional!! ♥️🎉🎂🎈
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they?
1) After the flood, God remembered Noah.
2) God said He would never flood the land again and gave us the rainbow to remember that.
3) When the Israelites formed the golden calf Moses cried out to God to remember the covenant He had with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
4) David cried out for mercy over the sins of his youth.
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
God is always with me. Always.
Monday/Tuesday
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they?
God remembered Noah after the judgement; The rainbow which is a promise that mankind won’t be destroyed by a flood; The covenant with Abraham, Issac and Jacob; Steadfast love .
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
Psalm 100:5, “For the Lord is good and His love endures forever, His faithfulness continues throughout all generations.”
Isaiah 40:31. “But those who trust in the Lord will find new strength. They will soar high on wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not faint.”
Isaiah 41:10, “Don’t be discouraged, for I am with you. Don’t be discouraged, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you. I will hold you up with My victorious right hand.”
Sharon, I will add psalm 100 to his promises especially in light of my daughter and niece and the generations that would come after them unless the Lord comes soon! I think of Kari Jobe’s song “The Blessing” and how it addresses the generations. O, Lord, that we may turn to you always.
Monday/Tuesday: Remember Your Promises, O Lord
I have been upheld by the promises of God in the midst of grief. I have clung to the promise that He will be a husband to the widow, a father to the fatherless, that He will provide for me as He does the lilies of the field, that one day there will be a perfect new heaven and a perfect new earth, and that there will be no more sin, or death, or grief. All these sustain me, and indeed, He has demonstrated His faithfulness to His promises.
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they? – God remembered Noah after the flood, Genesis 8.1; God promises to never destroy mankind in a flood again, Genesis 9.15-16; He remembered his promises that was made Abraham, Isaac Jacob when they sinned with the golden calf, Deut 9.27; and David reminded God of his promise to him to forget his past transgressions Ps 25.6-7
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent? – When I’m struggling, and feel alone, I remember the promise that God is faithful to always be with me. This helps me get through the pain with the hope God is with me.
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it? – It helps us to bring to the forefront the promises of God and to remind Him of his word. We cry out for him to take action.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18 – They no longer have an inheritance, it’s been turned over to aliens and their homes to foreigners. They have to now buy water to drink and there is now a cost to their wood they need. They are tired and worn out from their pursuers.
E.. What else stands out to you from this section? – I like the reminder that it is ok to not run from the shame we caused to ourselves when we have done wrong. Lamenting embraces it so we can move through it and come to God with a repentive heart.
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they?
God remembered Noah. God remembered His covenant between Him and His people, He remembered His covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God remembered His mercy from of old.
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
Philippians 1: 6 That He will complete what He has started; Romans 8:28; He works things out for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.; Isaiah 40:31 That He will sustain me as I wait on Him. Many psalms on waiting: Psalm 27: 13-14, Psalms 130:5-6; Psalm 33:20-22
B. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it?
It sets the context for the call for God to remember.
C. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18
Devastated land, widows and fatherless, economic downturn, exhausted, dependence on other nation, fear of death, sickness, women violated, shame on the princes and elders, mourning and sadness, fainting hearts and souls.
D. What else stands out to you from this section?
More believers and churches to step into the space of people’s pain and community sorrow with the liturgy of lament. This is so challenging as many don’t want to acknowledge their pain publicly.
The striking contrast between the responses of Charlotte, North Carolina and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Riots and violence in one and prayer of lament in another.
God’s story of remembering to lead the way in talking to God about our pain or outrage.
A prayer request: One of my nieces in the Philippines tested positive for COVID. She has been living with my brother and my sister-in-law for a long time now with her 2 children. Her husband left her a while back. She has also lost her job lately because of the shutdown of her company due to COVID. I have been coming to the Lord and asking Him to remember my niece and His promises. She is a Christian but has struggled with doubts about God’s goodness.
Dear Lord, I lift up Bing’s niece to You. It seems that she has endured hardship after hardship and I can understand her doubts of Your goodness and love for her. I pray that You would touch her body and remove this virus from her body. Also protect those that live with her and keep them healthy. Restore unto her the joy of Your salvation and may she feel Your loving touch and know that You are walking beside her and will never forsake her. Also, be with Bing and may she feel Your peace that passeth all understanding during this time. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
Sharon, thank you for your prayers for my niece. I ache for her and for her 2 children. I do not understand why the Lord has been silent with her for many years now. BUT I know that He is at work. Right at this very moment, He is doing a mighty work in her life. I ask for some relief for my niece but I want to trust God that though relief may not be at hand yet, He will remember her and His promise of faithfulness to her.
Amen to Sharon’s good prayer!
Amen.
Agreeing with Sharon’s prayer for your niece, Bing. May God be with her and draw her to him.
I stand in agreement with Sharon’s prayer and will continue to pray for her and your family.
I join in saying Amen to Sharon’s prayer, Father in Heaven. To You be the glory!
Amen to Sharon’s prayer.
I hope I’m included in next week’s study.
Oh you will be, faithful friend! I’m including any regulars who want to be. More details to come and we don’t begin until September..
A song I find helpful in silences… https://youtu.be/qlsQrycKKsY
Kerryn, this is just what I needed this morning. He is a Good, Good Father…thank you!
Thank you,Kerryn. I love this song and right now I have to remember the words as I think of people I love.
What stands out to you from the above and why?
So I have to say it..the obvious, but oh my…I can’t wait for September’s private study. When Dee says she is more than a little excited, that is HUGE. 😉
What also stood out is how we must often trust God without a resolution. Oh..I don’t know where this study is leading this week, but I have to share.! My trial is SO hard but I am discovering it’s been a beautiful opportunity to trust-to grow in faith. It is good to feel the earth shake as if I am going to get swallowed up-for my world is still shaking and shifting but I can tell you sisters, He doesn’t shift or change..He is the same and He is SO much better than anything on this earth! I can place all my hope and trust in Him and He makes me soar like an Eagle…The same God who lifts us out of the pit – places us on a mountain top, and even though the pit and the pain remains we can have His abundant JOY and steadfast Peace.
I told a friend the other day that while I hate the pain and the lingering-ongoing trials due to this trial, I am so glad all of this happened. It is good to be stripped of the things that have been keeping me from living a life full in Him-a life full in Him is WAY better than a life clinging onto the things that wither and die.
I also have to admit that the next time we do a book study I will get the actual book. Audible books are wonderful but in a study atmosphere reviewing portions of it takes a bit more time to find.
You are a mentor to us all, Rebecca.
You are amazing to me Rebecca. I want to believe to that extent, but it is difficult to let myself “ buy in” all the way. I agree about the audio book. I have borrowed it 5 times from the library! Haha…
Rebecca, thank you for sharing this…you are my “female” Barnabas!
Rebecca, thank you. Love this post.
Rebecca, your testimony is so inspiring. Yes, may you soar like an eagle and may your strength be renewed.
I’ve used an ebook borrowed from the library, but an actual book is so much nicer to use.
Rebecca, your words remind me of a verse in Psalm 119, “It was good for me that I was afflicted, that I might learn Your statutes.” Thank you for sharing your heart. It encourages me in faith.
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it?
It sets the stage for the remembering to begin.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18
Lost homes, widowed mothers, orphaned children, starvation, exhaustion, no money, no food, violence.
E.. What else stands out to you from this section?
As the pastor runs down the list of the 17 painful “events,” I start thinking it sounds like what is going on in our country today. It is desolate and dark. It is sad.
Then he talks about two police shootings of black men and how the two cities where it happens react to the shootings. One city begins a prayer campaign, the other begins violence. For the second time I wondered if this book was published before our country went up into flames this past spring because of the awful killing of George Floyd in Minnesota? So ironic if it was. If so, he was projecting what was going to happen using previous examples of the same thing. Some places have prayed and some have broken into violence (many of these). He says those who have gone through pain should lead others into lamenting. The pastor in Tulsa did just that…he gave cards to people to write their pain on. He had prayer vigils and such for them. He helped them heal. It is now time to remember that God loves us and He is good.
What an incredible, timely example to us. How we need to come together as Christians and help one another as we lament the pain of tragic and unnecessary loss of life and the suffering. We don’t need to be divided. We are called into the family of God. thanks for this post, Laura.
Monday/Tuesday
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it?
The purpose of rehearsing pain is first of all admitting that there is pain rather than denying it or being embarrassed, and it sets up the context for calling upon God to remember.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18
Foreign invaders have destroyed the nation
People feel abandoned
Survival is very hard
Feeling exhausted
A culture marked by upheaval
Depression and hunger everywhere
Women are violated
Oppression rules the day
E. What else stands out to you from this section?
The challenge to step into people’s pain and sorrow with the liturgy of lament and it starts by asking God to remember my struggle.
3. Remember, O Lord.
A. 4 Promises 1. Noah, a man of integrity
2. the rainbow, a sign that he would not destroy the earth by a flood
3. Moses and the people who worshiped the golden calf
4. David, in Psalm 23, Remember Lord, your mercy
3B. When God is silent I think of the promise in Psalm 73 God is my strength and my portion forever, verse 26 and verse 23,Yet I am always with you.
I have faith that He will sustain me even though he is silent. Hebrews 12:2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith.
C. Rehearsing pain has a purpose. It sets the tone for us to remember God’s grace. Although many are uncomfortable with rehearsing their sorrow, I believe it is therapeutic. I remember my Mother’s pain as she held in her sorrow and I think it grew to a bitter root. I think that generation had a pattern of stuffing emotions.
D.List some of the pain in chapter 5:2-18 Their homes were turned over to foreigners, ” we are fatherless, our fathers sinned and we bear their punishment,” they are hungry and get bread at the risk of their lives, women have been ravished, the joy is gone, and their hearts are faint. “We are weary and find no rest.”
E,. What else stands out? They have acknowledged the sin of themselves and their fathers. verse 16 “Woe to us, for we have sinned! Yet they still believe in the Sovereignty of God! “your throne endures from generation to generation”
What a good word for me today, Shirley. fixing my eyes on Jesus and still believing the Sovereignty of God. I’ve been focusing more and more on Him and His Sovereignty these days. Thank you.
Doing some study on lament in Job and thought you might like this.
Job does not hold anything back; he is brutally honest with God in relation to his true feelings – he feels angry, betrayed, bitter and defeated. As Brueggemann points out, lament is far removed from the “…denial, cover-up, and pretence, which sanctions social control”. However, whilst his language may convey hopelessness, in terms of isolation, the very fact that his lament is addressed to God keeps Job connected to him, even in divine silence. Consequently, out of the darkness of his isolation, hope arises.
Harper, H.R.F. (2018) The book of Job as a theology of isolation. Foundations 74, 14-27
Kerryn,
I also value Walter Brueggemann’s insight on lament. I’ve gleaned much from his book “Praying the Psalms”. Also his book titled “Awed to Heaven, Rooted in Earth” offers prayers that give voice to our human dilemma.
An excerpt from a prayer entitled At the Dawn:
Now, at the dawn, our eyes are fixed on you in gladness.
We ask only that your faithfulness
permeate every troubled place we are able to name,
that your mercy move against the hurts to make new,
that your steadfastness
hold firmly what is too fragile on its own ~
Wow, this is so interesting Kerryn and Nila. Thank you for the words, “ We ask only that your faithfulness permeate every troubled place we are able to name…” I am naming them to our Heavenly Father now.
I like this insight about Job lamenting to God — keeping him connected to Him. I love both Keller’s series on Job and Mike Mason’s “The Gospel According to JOb.” I’ve always liked Brueggeman.
Great insights from Brueggemann, Kerryn. Thanks for sharing. We as Christians today have far too shallow a view of lament. We live in “denial, cover-up and pretence” and wonder why others aren’t drawn to Christ.
SUNDAY
1. Two things stood out to me: First, Dee, you have piqued my interest and I’m anxious to hear what’s in store for September. 😉 Second, I agree with what you wrote about, “Remember” – that it is a request for God to remember His promises and to keep them.” I also think God calls us to “remember” what He has done for us, to remember His faithfulness to us. So we call on God to remember & keep His promises AND God calls on us to remember His promises and how He has kept them, how He has been faithful. Both of these “keeps us keeping on when He is silent.”
I’m glad to have piqued interest! : )
2. The main point is we must keep praying, we must keep turning to God – when answers are slow in coming, when pain & uncertainty hang in the air, when brokenness & tears becomes our life – keep turning to God & the hope we have: God’s grace.
I agree with you, Karmen. Keep praying.
3. B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
Hebrews 13:5 For He Himself has said, I will never desert you, nor will I ever forsake you.
This promise of His presence at all moments and in every circumstance is the truth-reassurance that I often need to reorient my thinking and my emotions.
I found these words by C.H. Spurgeon that speak to the original meaning of this word never .
We turn at once, with great pleasure, to the wonderful words of our text, “He hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.” I have no doubt you are aware that our translation does not convey the whole force of the original, and that it would hardly be possible in English to give the full weight of the Greek. We might render it, “He hath said, I will never, never leave thee; I will never, never, never forsake thee;” for, though that would be not a literal, but rather a free rendering, yet, as there are five negatives in the Greek, we do not know how to give their force in any other way. Two negatives nullify each other in our language; but here, in the Greek, they intensify the meaning following one after another, as I suppose David’s five stones out of the brook would have done if the first had not been enough to make the giant reel. The verse we sung just now is a very good rendering of the original—
“‘The soul that on Jesus hath lean’d for repose,
I will not, I will not desert to his foes;
That soul, though all hell should endeavour to shake,</em<em
I’ll never, no never, no never forsake.’”
I can’t help but sing the words of this song, Nila.
Nila, what comforting words by Spurgeon! “I will never, never leave thee; I will never, never, never forsake thee;” What a helpful explanation.
3. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they?
-After the judgment of the flood. God remembered Noah
-God remembered His covenant with Noah and promises never to destroy the world via a flood again
-When the Israelites sinned via the golden calf, Moses remembered the Lord’s covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob
-David asked God to remember him according to His steadfast love and mercy in his younger years.
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B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent?
When God is silent regarding provision-protection: How God clothes the birds and lilies and the grass who are more splendorous than even Solomon in his fine clothing so why am I worried? Am I not of more value to God? And I recall, yes how God remembers me and has taken care of me my whole life in so many ways-materially yes indeed, but much more than that such as godly mentors throughout my life and especially as a new believer keeping me grounded in the Word so that satan couldn’t trick me with false doctrine..then as time went on-He continued to surround me with amazing brothers and sisters who helped me along the way. He has come to me via His Word, via prayer, creation, and via my brothers and sisters in SO many ways!
When God is silent during a storm in my life: I think of Job, whose life was torn apart and while in desperation crying out to God, God responded with Who He is-His omnipotence. Were you there when I laid the foundations of the earth? God went on to show Job He is in control-no need to worry or take control. God sets boundaries in the heavens and even with the Sea. So He can set boundaries with us, and our storms-He is in control, though it is a mystery. He knows just what we need. It is a call for Job to trust God-the One who made the Universe and everything in it-even though I struggle, how can I not trust Him with my storms when He is the God of storms? He hasn’t forgotten me-He wants me to press into Him more-deeper intimacy! SUCH a warm blanket.
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it?
It sets the context for the call for God to remember-helps us not to go into denial of pain but to talk to God about it.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18
Women are violated, The people feel abandoned, They have to bear the consequence of national sins, They are oppressed, celebrations have ceased and hopelessness has set in, wild animals roam the street.
E.. What else stands out to you from this section?
What stands out to me is that God remembers me..That I am His, that no one can snatch me out of His hand. No matter how bad satan attacks me, God is in control-He knows every way satan is attacking and has lost. God has allowed it for His beautiful, wonderful, mysterious purposes. I do know my lamenting has helped me to go to Him with my pain instead of stuffing it and then going to Him..It has helped me to talk with him A LOT more often..I do know via His Word that trials can enlarge our faith, humble us, empty us more, Me of my pride-myself (and I need lots more emptying!) and help others be more attracted to Jesus in us, and that we might come alongside a sister who is going through the same thing-pointing her face to Him.
So good from you: I do know my lamenting has helped me to go to Him with my pain instead of stuffing it and then going to Him..It has helped me to talk with him A LOT more often..I do know via His Word that trials can enlarge our faith, humble us, empty us more, Me of my pride-myself (and I need lots more emptying!) and help others be more attracted to Jesus in us, and that we might come alongside a sister who is going through the same thing-pointing her face to Him.
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible.
I had a Godly mother; I was fortunate. God gave my mom to me whom I watched in daily prayer and kindness for her entire life. She did not have an easy life, but she always trusted God. I trusted her and because of that (that I could see), I could trust in Him too. He made a promise to me when I stood over my dads hospital bed as he was dying (I was 13) that He would always be there for me. He would be my Father. He has never let me down, even though my life has not always been what I thought it should be. He is for me, He is not against me.
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you.
”God reigned through the cross.”
If He could allow His own people and Son the pain they went through and bring beauty through as well, then He can do this for us too.
God is always in charge. He will always reign even when life is at its worst.
Laura, when you wrote that if He can bring beauty out of the pain of His people and His Son, then He can bring it out of our pain, too, it brought encouragement to me. Thank you for those words…
Yes, Laura, thank God for your Godly mother. I also am thankful that, I too, had a Godly mother.
Remember= a covenant word. I remember when my youngest son, Jed (Jedidiah-Solomon’s nickname meaning “beloved of God” a story for another day) passed away. I went to stay with my sister for a season. She had a book called “Integrity: The Courage to Meet the Demands of Reality.” by Dr. Henry Cloud. I can’t recall what I read in those painful days but the statement “restoration doesn’t come to those who live in denial,” is true. I wanted to stay on the beach with a book under an umbrella and never go back. Having tried to walk for years in what felt like chest deep water in an ocean of grief, exhausted me. I had absolutely no courage. But God! He did it, somehow, got me back on a plane headed home leading me beside still waters so I can now say, He restored my soul. “…confidently walk into the darkest moments of life and guide people in talking to God about their pain,” Yes, I can see that is what our Heavenly Father would have us do.
Wed. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific…
Knowing His love as portrayed in the Bonanza clip, knowing His faithfulness and trustworthiness, knowing God saw me through many years of pain and sorrows, knowing He will provide what is needed that moment just what I need even when I don’t know what I need, comforts me. Even if I don’t understand, I can trust Him for He has shown Himself faithful.
For example, after my first husband, Ken passed away, when all the family and friends went back home, it was time to go back to work. I remember pondering the fact that all the blood was drained out of me, my heart broken and my brain broken, but I was still able to walk! It had to be God doing it. As I was stepping out of the bedroom into the hall, Abba, Father, God Almighty spoke to my heart and said, “Ken still loves you.” My heart answered back, “yes, Lord, love never fails.” That strengthen me to continue through the day with that glorious thought of God’s unfailing love and watch care over me and I know over you, dear sisters in Christ.
The words in this section that jump out at me is spiritual reorientation... Always focusing on God and His Sovereign plan and that He has called me/us to be co-laborers with Him, humbles me. What a blessed thought. Thank You, Jesus.
Becky, so glad for God’s words to you that morning. Not just for then, but for all the mornings since, as they continue to give you strength.
Loved this Becky “I can’t recall what I read in those painful days but the statement “restoration doesn’t come to those who live in denial,” is true. ” Oh my we have to confess and repent everythign so we know for sure we are not in denial and restoration can come. Thank you Becky.
Becky, your words touch my heart, “God Almighty spoke and said, Ken still loves you.”
Dearest Becky, This…“I remember pondering the fact that all the blood was drained out of me, my heart broken and my brain broken, but I was still able to walk! It had to be God doing it.” Yes..oh yes it is God! You reminded me of Isaiah 40:3, Yet those who wait for the LORD Will gain new strength; They will mount up with wings like eagles, They will run and not get tired, They will walk and not become weary.
Thank you, Rebecca, for reminder of God’s word to us through His prophet Isaiah.
Wednesday
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible.
Watching those various clips of Bananza reminds that tv just isn’t what it used to be and just how immoral our country has become!
S)ove(r)eign…reigns over…Yes, He does! This truth became very real when we lost our son, it became real when our home was destroyed in Florence and as a child in Africa having to leave our home several times because of political unrest, it was expressed by my parents and other missionaries. It is an attribute of God that has brought me much healing, peace and hope!!
Sharon, I love what you shared about the word sovereign! That will stick with me.
Mary I thought the same thing. Never thought of it that way.
Sharon, what a testimony of how God has shown His faithfulness and sovereignty over and over throughout you life. All glory and praise. Someday, I hope you can share more.
Isn’t that the truth about those Bonanz clips!
Birth pangs are increasing.
What stands out to you from the above and why? What stands out is that Lament doesn’t necessarily have a happy ending. Like the song, we may continue to be pain, but our hearts must continue to seek God in the aching. The people around us continue to be hurt and to hurt.
Read up to “Remember O Lord” in Chapter 8 (A Road Map to Grace) and share what you believe to be the main point. I think the main point is that we need to continue to run to Him and that there isn’t a end point or a start point, just a continuing lament and turning to Him.
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they? 1. After the judgment of the flood, “God remembered Noah”. 2. After the flood, God said He would remember His covenant. 3. When the Israelites sinned with the golden calf, Moses asked God to be merciful by remembering His covenant to His forefathers. 4. David asks God to remember His mercy.
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent? That God will never leave me nor forsake me. That I am His, and He is mine. That He chose me before the foundations of the world.
C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it? That it sets the context for asking God to remember His promises to us based on God’s character. We can’t actively live in denial and ask and plead with God to move, heal, and give us mercy and grace.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18 “We have become orphans, fatherless, our mothers like widows, Our pursuers are at our necks; we are weary; we are given no rest, there is none to deliver us from their hand, women are raped in Zion, our dancing has turned to mourning.
E.. What else stands out to you from this section? What stand out to me from the section in the book, well, it makes me want to hold a Lament service. For what’s happening in Kenosha WI. To start with the black man who lost his life, but also for all the violence after that point. Right down to what’s happening in my own small town in WI. The fear and violence in reaction to it. I am concerned though that despite my desire to pray and Lament for all the loss, starting with Jacob Blake, but also recognizing the pain and destruction that happened in the after math that it would be politicized.
Tammy Jo, I am so sorry for the events in Kenosha, Wi. My prayers are with you and my lament for all the tragedy surrounding this injustice.
I am weary to hear about it, but pray for those who hurt the most.
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you didn’t understand what was going on?
Not understanding is, I think, a really honest place to start from. The heavenly view of our lives and circumstances is vast. It takes into consideration spiritual warfare, the choices of each individual, plus the plans and purposes of God. I am not capable to even begin to see that picture. But if I choose to think like a child and concentrate on just what I can see of God, then I can function. For example, I cannot wrap my mind around how God can hear and respond to every prayer at the same time. But I can believe and take refuge in what the Bible tells me when it says that God loves me.
5. But You, O Lord….
Because we have the Bible and its pattern of lament, we can identify the pain in our lives. But we don’t have to allow it to control us. We can keep our faces turned to God and verbalize our trust in Him.
Mary, loved your words, “don’t have to allow it to control us…turn to God”
Wednesday: But You, O Lord Reign Forever
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible. – What helps me the most is that I know and can rely on God. He is in control of me, my family and friends and the whole world He created. This world only exists because of him. I may still struggle with things that happen, I may still question and cry out, but if I focus on His goodness, His love and remember that nothing happens without his letting it, I know I will be ok. The things of this world are not for me to worry about. I need to do my part of course, I can’t just sit back and expect others to do what I’m called ot do, I need to live my life to the fullest of how God’s Word says I should. He’s got the Whole World in HIS HANDS.
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you. – What stood out to me was “God is in control. Every event in life moves toward the fulfillment of the plane he ordained. He reigns forever…God called Jeremiah to be a prophet BEFORE HE WAS BORN. (Jer. 1.5)” There is so much comfort in these lines. I am where God wants me to be at this moment in time. So I have to believe that my ending will be exactly as He planned it from my birth. I may not know what that is, but if he is in control of everything, every event in life, my life, than I have to trust Him that he knows what is best for me. Thank you Lord for always being with me.
I too love that Jeremiah was called to be a prophet before he was born.
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible. Her name was Evangeline. Bringer of the good news. Her nickname was Jelly. Jelly was diagnosed with brain cancer at 2. I was her friend and the family’s close friend. Through the different brain tumors and different cancers she developed, the emergency hospital runs, I walked with them through her death at 7.I didn’t shy away at the hard moments or scary ones. It was in this journey that I experienced my first hard boundary with the Lord, the ‘You can take this much Lord but not one step more’ When we waited prayfully to see if the other children would have the same genetic disorder.. I had to make a choice to believe God’s character is good even though I couldn’t see it. What do we do when God asks more than we can bear? I hadn’t led an easy life, but this was where I first had to face that I had boundaries with God ones I didn’t realize and somehow to find the strength make a choice to trust that He was good. That continues even now as I watch these precious friends continue to struggle, how many of these boundaries will I find. What do I do with them, when I reach them?
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you. God is sovereign and if He could redeem the injustice of Jesus dying by evil man’s hands he can redeem our pain as well.
Tammy Jo, I’ve never thought of having “boundaries with God.” Interesting thought. Thank you.
1. 3. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible.
I look back at all the recent deaths of my family members and can see God’s gracious hand in all of the grief and pain that accompanied them. I cry whenever I think of my Mom and my sister and miss them so much. Then I start thinking of my Dad, and my parents-in-law. I have to speak to my soul reminding it that God has our times in His hand and when His purposes for us in this earth is accomplished, He will call us home. And that will happen in His perfect time and according to His faithful goodness.
1. 4. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you.
God is sovereign over everything including our pain.
Walking with someone whose storyline appears to be cruel…God is still in control, even through loss.
Trusting the God who wrote the rest of the story beyond chapter 5 (or the chapter of your life)
God ordained (reigned over) Jesus’ crucifixion.
Sylvia’s story
We are told the redemptive story so we can find our way through the darkest moments of our lives.
Look for opportunities to remind yourself of God’s sovereignty.
I see my personal application of Romans 8:28-31 here. God has a purpose in everything. And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Dear Lord, I think of the precious people that are in the path of Laura in Texas and Louisiana. You are sovereign over the weather and You have the power to decimate this powerful hurricane. Give people wisdom and direction in in their evacuation and shelter decisions. Be with first responders that can’t leave, keep them safe and be especially with the poor, homeless. and animals. Amen
Amen to your prayer, Sharon. I just saw that on a broadcast.
Beautifully said. Amen.
Yes, Lord. I join in agreement with Sharon. Amen and Amen
Thanks for leading us in prayer for this, Sharon. You would be so compassionate!
. Read the section “Remember O Lord.”
A. Pastor Mark, on page 143 of the hard copy, gives four examples from Scripture of God’s “remembering” His people, His promises. What are they? When God remembered Noah; God remembered His covenant He made to Noah [and to us] by His rainbow (TAKE BACK THE RAINBOW!); When God remembered His covenant to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob when the Hebrew children had made a golden calf to worship; When God remembered David and gave Him mercy.
B. What specific promises do you cling to when God is silent? I have always clung to the verses in Isaiah 49:15-16, “Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you! See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are ever before me.” Of course, there are many more but this is one I specifically hold dear.
15 C. Pastor Mark says rehearsing pain has a purpose. What is it? It sets the context for God to remember and restore.
D. List some of the pain rehearsed in Lamentations 5:2-18 We must buy the water we must drink; women have been violated in Zion; our inheritance is being taken by strangers; we have become fatherless, our mothers are widows.
E.. What else stands out to you from this section? A while back I read the book “The Soul of Shame” by Curt Thompson, MD. Pretty powerful from the view of a Christian psychiatrist and how the enemy uses shame as a great tool against believers…highly recommend it. Growing up in a legalistic denomination (that I still love and has changed since then), shame was a big part of the culture. I was moved by the statements: “Instead of running from the shame of sorrow, lament embraces it. Lament looks through the fog for the grace of God’s remembrance.”
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you didn’t understand what was going on?
I often asked the question, “why did my Dad die when I was too small to remember him?” I knew he loved God very much and that fact helped me to believe
that God knew my pain and would be a father to me. My faith was always strong and I know that God protected me from harm throughout my life. He is a good, good Father.
5. But you, O Lord, reign forever: God is still in control through our loss. And dark clouds linger… Yes, we suffer and we wonder , but God doesn’t delight in the pain of his children. Yes, I do believe that every thing in my life is part of God’s good purpose, though there is pain when my friend’s son lost his battle with cancer. My heart aches for her.
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible. When my severely autistic son was 9, it got to the point where I could no longer keep him safe and he was agitated constantly. I had to sue the county board of developmental disabilities for services that included living in the community near me in a group home with 3 others. Such a placement did not exist. Even his neurologist testified that Caleb needed behavior programming, a controlled environment, and 24/7 staffing, that despite all the interventions we had tried at home, his needs were inherent and the community needed to step him. The stakes were HIGH! And the thought of having Caleb live outside of my home so he could be safe, content, and functioning to the best that he could was counter-intuitive to my instinct as a mother…yet, just as Hannah prayed regarding her Samuel, Caleb was lent to the Lord. I had no idea what the outcome would be and if we would prevail. I came home from church one Sunday in the middle of all of this, and found a baby sparrow on the ground, below a nest sitting on our neighbor’s window air conditioner. I got a ladder and put the bird back in the nest. The parent came and kicked the bird out of the nest. I called a naturalist in our county park system and told him my situation. He asked if the baby bird had feathers; I said yes. He said it probably was time for the bird to leave the nest but not to worry, as the mother’s job was not over. That her job would be continuing to keep the bird safe, protecting the bird from cats and making sure the bird’s needs were met. I hung up the phone with tears streaming. The naturalist had no idea what I was going through, but his words were direct from the Lord. His peace overwhelmed me, and I no longer fretted about what would happen. I knew then that despite my pain and fear, Caleb has a great God that loved him more than myself. After 8 months, we prevailed and won the suit. Caleb is now 31, lives 10 minutes away with two other housemates, and is safe, content, and functioning to the best of his ability. This had never happened in the State of Ohio. I was overwhelmed, and still am 23 years later, at how God was so tenderly mindful in a time that was excruciatingly painful and full of waiting.
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you. The sentence: “I wouldn’t be writing this book without the death of Sylvia.” I want to meet her in heaven and tell her the impact her life has had on me through this book.
Denise! What a beautiful story of the Lord comforting you in a incredibly difficult time. I can’t imagine needing to make the decision you did besides having to fight the county to allow for that to happen. What a long hard battle and how sweet of the Lord to confirm the path for you ❤️. This is an amazing testimony.
Thanks for sharing this Denise. What a heart wrenching decision…But God.
Denise,
Reading with tears.
Your words penetrate:
“……how God was so tenderly mindful in a time that was excruciatingly painful and full of waiting.”
Oh my Denise — so much pain, such a battle, but so wonderful to hear how God met you and used this.
Wednesday
5. Read “But You O Lord Reign Forever” and share what stands out to you.
”As I walk in the shadowlands of pain…may I look for opportunities to remind my soul about God’s sovereign control. I will prayerfully celebrate His reign of control even when I have no idea how His plan will unfold.”
4. How has the knowledge of God’s sovereignty and character helped you when you don’t understand what is going on? Be specific if possible.
That Bonanza video..whoa. Powerful!
When my world crumbled last year with news of betrayal I couldn’t bear and then again this month, new information came adding to it-a deeper betrayal made the knife twist and go deeper. I couldn’t understand what was going on and really I still don’t, but I am okay with that now for God moves so mysteriously-often! I wanted justice extended to this person, not mercy and definitely not Grace. Yet that is what He is doing-I don’t understand it, yet His sovereignty in Love in that while I was a sinner and betrayer of Him He gave His life for me-that is so loud in my heart right now. He chose me before I was born for He could see ahead and knew my whole life story before I did. That amazes me, and strengthens me when I doubt He knows what He is doing for there are easy, comfortable ways out of this, yet He is telling me to stay and it doesn’t make sense-upside down-for I could leave and almost did! I have seen humility and a real turning happening in this person but am proceeding with caution continuing to trust God to help me discern for He is the great discerner of hearts!
Lifting you up in prayer, Rebecca. Betrayal is so, so, so painful, maybe more than death (?). But your feet are beautiful and you sound wonderfully anchored to our precious Savior. I lament with you.
Becky, you bless me so. 💕
Rebecca and any of us who have experienced betrayal,
Your post here reminds me of this song again. I know I have shared it with you before.
Ellie Holcomb You Love Me Best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjZYT8qtLQ
And there may come a day
When all other loves have gone away
When darkness hems me in
You’ll be right where You have always been
Closer than the heart within my chest
Because You have loved me best.
Rebecca, I don’t know your particulars, but I understand what you are saying about there being easier ways out. It isn’t just in relationships, either. In our everyday lives, Satan is always offering us an easier way. Isn’t that what he did with Jesus in the wilderness? Telling Him, You don’t have to go to the cross. You don’t have to suffer. You can have it all without doing it God’s way… but it is always a lie. Praying for you today, dear sister, that you will continue to choose God’s way, no matter how upside down it seems.
C. How do you see the turn in 21-22? Divine Intervention. Jeremiah never gave up on his people, God’s people. He recognized Who was the only One that could make the turning possible. What a powerful prayer for today. Turn us back to You, O Lord, and we will be restored…” NKJV. Even so, Come, Lord Jesus.
Bonanza ~
Thank you for this clip from Bonanza. It made me curious so I researched some of the main characters. I found a wonderful article in Guidepost Magazine about Lorne Greene, the actor portraying the father. It is entitled The Value of Silence. It tells a beautiful and intriguing story about Lorne Greene and his father and the value of creative silence.
Such a valuable parallel to this study on the silence of God and the love of a father.
https://www.guideposts.org/friends-and-family/family/guideposts-classics-lorne-greene-on-the-value-of-silence
Nila, what an inspiring story! Thank you for sharing it.
The song in the background of the Bonanza clip is dear to me (I frequently play it on my piano for my heart to meditate on).
It is “I Shall Not Want” by Audrey Assad. Please don’t miss the lyrics in the context of lamenting what is lost…
From the love of my own comfort
From the fear of having nothing
From a life of worldly passions
Deliver me O God
From the need to be understood
And from a need to be accepted
From the fear of being lonely
Deliver me, O God. Deliver me, O God
And I shall not want, no, I shall not want
When I taste Your goodness,
I shall not want
When I taste Your goodness, I shall not want
From the fear of serving others
Oh, and from the fear of death or trial
And from the fear of humility
Deliver me O God
Yes, deliver me O God
And I shall not want, no, I shall not want
When I taste Your goodness I shall not want
No, I shall not want, no, I shall not want
When I taste Your goodness I shall not want
When I taste Your goodness I shall not want
I shall not want. I shall not want.
Wonderful, Jill.
Jill, there are tears in my eyes reading these lyrics. How much I need deliverance from!