It has been said that the longest 18 inches is between the head and the heart.
It is one thing to believe about Jesus in your head, it is quite another to experience Him.
So this is our symbol for the week:
My brother-in-law, John Frahm, was a Lutheran Missouri-Synod Pastor.
His theology was correct, but it was all in his head, not his heart.
Here he is decades ago, with my sister Sally, when he was a pastor.
A group of people in his church were excited about Alpha, a program that was sweeping across the world, bringing new life to dead churches. John studied the curriculum and thought he could make it better. In his pride, he re-wrote it and sent it to England for the founders to consider. When they finally had a phone conversation, they told him:
Frankly, Dr. Frahm, we don’t think you get it. We’d like you to go back and watch the videos, not with the purpose of changing them, but for your own heart.
Though shocked, John did as they asked. He said, “By the fifth video everything in my head fell to my heart. I wept. I wept for the sense of love and forgiveness that overwhelmed me, and I wept in repentance for how I had been pastoring.”
John eventually went on to study with Alpha in London and was put in charge of bringing Alpha to American campuses. (My sister and her husband, who now live in Independent Living in an Assisted Living Facility called Querencia in Austin, will be on Alpha’s upcoming new marriage video series. They are such opposites, they had the camera crew in stitches! Yet the Lord has kept them close and refined both of them.)
This week we will see the moment when the Lord crossed that long distance from the head to the heart for Peter, James, and John.
2 Highlights from Last Week:
How God Feels About Our Sin
This fits right into the message of this week of going from the head to the heart. As long as we see sin as breaking a rule instead of breaking a heart, we may be in the category of those “who don’t really get it!” This from our own Susan was golden, I’ve colored some of it in red.
As to the discussion from last week about is God disappointed with us, and Sylvia saying the better way to describe it is that He is grieved, I want to share what I learned from the book I’m reading, Tim Keller’s The Prodigal Prophet (about Jonah) for my book discussion group. We met yesterday and the chapter we were discussing touched on this as well. God is talking to Jonah about how Jonah had compassion for the plant, and God says that He has compassion for Ninevah. Keller said that the word used in these verses for “compassion” means to grieve over someone or something, to have your heart broken, to weep for it. God is saying that His compassion is for people, which Keller said is radical language because it is the language of attachment. Because God needs nothing and is perfectly happy in Himself, not ‘needing’ us, how could He get attached to us? Keller says that He loves only voluntarily. He voluntarily attaches His heart to us, meaning that the sadness of our condition makes Him sad; it affects Him. So I’m thinking, in a divine, mysterious way, our pain, my pain…my sin and the disaster it wreaks in my life, the condition of my heart…God is also bound-up with so that it affects Him, too. In a small, human way, I know the pit I’ve felt in my stomach when something is not going well for one of my children, or when they suffer the sting of their wrong actions and behavior. So with God, infinitely more does He feel it. My sin hurts Him because His heart is attached to mine.
“My sin hurts Him because His heart is attached to mine.”
How To Pray During this Pandemic. Diane’s prayer from last week was so helpful:
Father, in this time of global pandemic, my inclination is to protect myself and totally avoid others. Help me, Lord, to be wisely cautious and follow good health advice; but also to be aware of the needs of those around me, to deny my selfish needs and take up my cross and follow you, whatever that means for me in this situation. Help me to be kind. Help me to risk loving others in ways that are safe or even not safe, when that is called for. Help me, as the mother and grandmother and primary caregiver to many, be generous and sacrificial in my caregiving. Give me strength, courage, love and peace in the midst of confusion and uncertainty and fear. Help me to totally trust you, for you came to earth because you loved us. You breathed our air full of germs and diseases, so you can identify with us in our distress. You promise that you will be with us always, and, in the end, you will rescue us from earth and welcome us into your presence.
Sunday:
- What stands out to you from the above and why?
- Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
- How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
Monday: The Transfiguration – We Need Glimpses of His Glory
The same year Christ found me, I began witnessing to my neighbor Carol. We were both so young. She asked me, “Why should I believe Jesus is superior to Mohammed or Buddha?” Being so new in the faith, all I could tell her was to ask God to show her. She went home, flipped open her Bible, put her finger down on the page, and came to the Transfiguration. He showed her the truth and she knew it in her head. Yet she resisted surrendering to Him. Thirty years later, when speaking in Indiana, I met her for lunch, wanting to bring her some comfort as her husband had died of cancer. I found a transformed and radiant Carol. I asked her what happened. She told me, “I knew I couldn’t face Bob’s death without Jesus.” And He met her. Everything in her head fell to her heart.
Similarly, the disciples are going to be facing the crucifixion of the One they thought was the Messiah. Spurgeon writes: “Christ is about to go to a shameful, dishonorable death – crucified as if he were a criminal worthy of death. So that the disciples will not remain discouraged, he gives them a glimpse at his glory. They will know that he is indeed the Messiah.”
We need glimpses if His glory to sustain us in the dark times. Raphael endeavored to communicate that through his famous painting by including what the disciples went through when they came down from the mountain.. We will look at Raphael’s painting tomorrow.
4. Read Mark 9:2-8
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4)
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!)
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!)
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
Tuesday: Enveloped in Wonder
Raphael’s painting of The Transfiguration was considered the most famous painting in the world for nearly five centuries. Here, in the museum that has the original, his purpose in depicting two scenes at once is explained:
5. What comments do you have on the above?
6. In chapter Ten of King’s Cross (The Mountan) read up to “The Death of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
Wednesday: The Death of Glory
7. Read Mark 9:9-13
A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think?
The disciples were told not to speak of it – until after the Resurrection. One reason for this is to avoid jealousy among the disciples (remember, these folks argued over who would be the greatest.) They needed to see his glory before the Crucifixion – but the lessons learned would only be useful afterwards. (Charles Spurgeon)
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah — what does Jesus say here? Can you explain
the apparent contradiction?
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share briefly here.
9. Read “The Death of Glory” in Chapter 10 and share your notes and comments.
Thursday: I Believe, Help My Unbelief
10. Read Mark 9:14-18
A. Describe the scene that James, John, and Peter return to see. Find all the details that must
have so distressed the father of the boy.
B. Why do you think Raphael included this scene in his painting?
11. Read Mark 9:19-29
A. Describe the conversation between Jesus and the father. (21-24)
B. What happens next?
C. What do you learn from this narrative that you could apply to your life?
D. Is there a specific area in your life that you could pray as the father did in verse 24? If so,
do it here.
12. Read Mark 9:30-34
A. What hard thing does Jesus clearly tell them here?
B. Why, when He was so clear, do you think they did not understand?
N. T. Wright thinks that because Jesus usually spoke in parables, they were looking for a
hidden meaning. I tend to think that when things are so painful to hear, we don’t want to
believe them. Though doctors told us Steve would die, I refused to believe it.
C. Does this give any light on why He had Peter, James, and John behold His glory at the
transfiguration?
Friday: A Glimpse of Glory
13. Read the last section in Keller’s chapter 10 entitled “A Glimpse of Glory” and share your
notes and comments.
Saturday: Reflections
14. What do you think you will remember from this week’s lesson and why?
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Sunday:
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? – Susan’s comment, “My sin hurts Him because His heart is attached to mine.” this really opened my eyes on just how close God really is to me. It makes me really thing about what I’ve done and most likely will continue to do, though I don’t want to, that will hurt Him more. Also Diane’s prayer, it is a scary thing that we are seeing now and the fear in some is very strong. But I don’t feel that sense of fear, but I know that I do need to be cautious and careful and aware of those in need in this situation. I see people posting about kids being out of school for four weeks, and that parents are still taking them places, but like me these parents still have to go to work so will have to take them out to find alternative care. I understand we should not be out as much, but isn’t that then living a life in fear. And if that is what is done, how will be know those that are in need. Lord, help me know what to do to help this situation, this crisis we are in. I want to be following your will, not mine
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it. – I think for me what jumps out is the control idol, like I know what is a better way to do or say something then the person that already thought it through. For me I would have to step back and wait to see if that moment of change, control passes and let it go on the way it was. But if it really is something that I think should be said, I need to find a way to approach them and ask in a way that doesn’t put my control in front. Kind of like reverse psychology.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic? – My 92 year old mom is in Florida right now staying with my sister and is due to fly back on March 27. My other sister told her she should stay where she’s at and not come home. She is really in fear of this right now. My mom told her “if my flight is not cancelled, I’m coming home.” This was said to her multiple times. I said to my mom, who agreed that if this was what God had planned for my life and I did not make it, it was my time to go on to eternity. She agreed and feels that people are acting crazy about it. She does not feel the fear either, but like me is being cautious and careful. Sadly there are cases everywhere so whether she stays in Florida or comes home she is around it all the time. I’ve told others that I just don’t feel the fear they are feeling. Maybe because I have a relationship with Jesus who does not give us a spirit of fear for something like this. I need to just keep helping people through this time and make them feel less fearful if at all possible.
So good Julie: I need to just keep helping people through this time and make them feel less fearful if at all possible.
I am so grateful for God giving me heart knowledge. I used to be all head knowledge but in that I was selfish. With heart knowledge my focus is on God and others. Thank you Lord so much for this. Lord I pray that you would lead me in whatever You would have me do or say during my travels in this next week and be safe and vigilant.
Such a good focus and prayer, Jennifer.
Everything in the introduction stands out to me…Yes, the story of your brother-in-law is very touching. Yes, I can identify with it because my first thoughts seem to always be critical. How can something be improved upon from my viewpoint, rather than how I need to be changed in my heart attitude.
So happy to come to the end of the story of your sister and his life being part of the story of the Alpha marriages!
Yes, Susan’s words are so real. God attaches himself to us and is grieved with our sin as we grieve over our children,” when they suffer the sting of their bad choices.”
Finally, Diane’s prayer is so special. How we need to look for ways to minister through this pandemic. “Give me strength, courage, love and peace through this confusion…” Hoping to reach out to others who are hurting instead of feeling sorry for my own disappointments.
I have that critical tendency too, Shirley. So good to check it!
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Probably, that there is 18 inches between our hearts and our heads! Hahaha…I never knew that.
Also, I don’t know if I understand the Jonah story (about a plant?) I am not getting it. I do understand that we hurt God when we sin. I have always though that though.
Diane’s prayer is meaningful.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
Yes, I am probably in between the two extremes, I’m thinking. If I were fully to heart mode then I would be able to not sin, right? I think I am closer to heart than head though.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
I think He would want me to be calm and not be panicked. I’m lucky I have Him! So many do not and therefore they have only themselves to lean on. To be honest, I am more afraid of the people who are out of control buying and hoarding than I am about the actual virus. I think we should all be overly cautious and wash hands more often. Use common sense and don’t sneeze or cough in others. Don’t go to work if you feel sick. I don’t understand the whole closing schools thing (ours is not); I am worried for those who need to go to work and have no one to help with child care. Our school is the cleanest it has ever been!! Don’t go to busy places like the mall or a sporting event. Enjoy your home more for a few weeks. I do realize that the exponential affect of it is a concern for the hospitals (having enough equipment to treat people). I just heard our government has a stockpile of medical equipment for just this situation and is releasing it for use. That is good. Meanwhile He would want me to pray and help my neighbor. I will do my best to do both of those things.
So now our state has switched to remote learning. For me, that isn’t such a problem; for other teachers it will be difficult. Would you please pray for teachers to be able to carry out their jobs (somehow) with students in k-12? We are trying to keep a semblance of normalcy, and for high schoolers I can see this being a way to learn. I’m struggling understanding how elementary school teachers will carry it out to their students; if I have an elementary age kid and need to go to work, where does my kid go? Who monitors how they are getting the curriculum? I’m sad that most likely parents will be home from work; our cities are becoming ghost towns 😔.
Our pastor kept his regular liturgy yesterday and it was on Exodus…the plagues. Can you believe that? We live streamed it on YouTube. Thank God for technology. I am sad for the world right now. Is God cleansing us again? Help me understand Lord. Help me protect my family. Help Sarah. Please Lord, she is vulnerable. Thank You for being with us. I can’t imagine how afraid people are who don’t have You in their lives. I know You are in control. It may not be what I like, but at least it is Your Way.
Yes, Laura, how lucky we are to have him, and thus we don’t need to panic.
An observation from a left-brained scientist. 18 inches. 🙂
Laura, God sent Jonah to warn Ninevah that He was going to destroy the city because they were so wicked. Astonishingly, they repented and God stayed His hand. Jonah went outside the city and watched to see what would happen. He didn’t want to warn them because he suspected that God might just be merciful to them and relent. God caused a vine to grow to provide shade for Jonah, but the next day, sent a worm to devour the plant and Jonah was all upset about the plant dying. God told Jonah, why are you so upset about this plant…as in you care about this plant…I (God) care about people. Shouldn’t I have compassion on all these people who don’t know their left hand from their right?!
Thanks Susan! I have read the story and actually seen it in action at the sight and sound theatre in Pa, but just don’t remember the vine part (!). I will need to go back and read it now 😉. Love the Bible….how much I learn each time I open it up!
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
John’s story of conversion.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
I can imagine wanting to correct or change something that makes me uncomfortable…wanting to alter it to fit my comfort. But I love how teachable he is–soft, moldable, and the Spirit pierces through and transforms.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
We had one last gathering (for an undefined time) this morning as a church. It was smaller, simpler, and beautiful. I will miss the coming together and singing together. But I do feel an unshakable peace. There is not one molecule that can get out of place without the Lord allowing it. We are challenged to soak up the truths of His Sovereignty. We have an opportunity to show that we have peace because our foundation is different. I’m also really trying to choose to see the good–my husband and kids home. I admit there are some specific circumstances I pray do not come about from this. I catch myself pondering the “what if’s”. But that too is bringing me to my knees more, and that is good. I’m also consciously praying with my kids about it–so they see that our response is submission and trust, continually speaking truth to our soul.
So good from Lizzy:
I catch myself pondering the “what if’s”. But that too is bringing me to my knees more, and that is good.
What stands out to you from the above and why? The re-writing of the curriculum and the willingness to study it for himself after. I hope I’m humble enough when confronted that way.
Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it. I recall accepting Christ at a Young Life retreat and being excited and sharing with my siblings and even challenging my mom for not taking us to church. Later however, after being married and having children, a bible study pricked my heart regarding my sin. I had been eager to accept Christ and His promises but didn’t realize how much I needed to be saved from my sin until that moment.
How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic? With the peace that passes understanding, we should go about our lives loving others, studying the Word, eating, working, playing. God is still in control. Certainly, be aware and follow smart health practices, as some with compromised immune systems must do every day.
Love hearing more of your testimony, Chris.
Sunday
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
This sentence really stood out to me, ”As long as we see sin as breaking a rule instead of breaking a heart, we may be in the category of those ‘who don’t really get it‘!” I went for too long in my life not really getting it and I still catch myself falling into that trap. This is why I liked the statement, “my sin hurts Him because His heart is attached to mine.” It reminds me that it’s not about rules, it’s about an intimate and loving relationship.
Diane’s prayer was beautiful and very encouraging.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
I just stared reading a book by a lady who is going to speak at our women’s retreat and I’m ashamed to say that my mindset was, it probably wasn’t going to be very good due to knowing her father-in-law. And so after reading John’s story I confessed my sin of arrogance and asked the Lord for humility and a teachable spirit. That was not fair of me at all!
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
I think He would want me to be wise in taking care of myself and others. To know that He holds tomorrow and I have nothing to fear. I would appreciate prayer for my son who has had a fever the last few days. He has had pneumonia 2 times so he could be easily compromised by this virus…I put him in Gods hands.
Father, please watch over Sharon and Jim’s son!
Yes, prayers for your son, Sharon.
I will be praying for your son and all of you Sharon.
I so appreciate all your prayers. My son, after much rest is feeling fine. It seems when he’s on the night shift his body gets run down so easily. Thank you!
4. Read Mark 9:2-8
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
He said He would suffer. He said He would die. He said those who would lose themselves for Him would gain for themselves.
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4)
He took Peter, James, and John. They saw Moses, Elijah, and Jesus (in a way that they had never seen Him…He was bright white).
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!)
He is excited and blurts out that the situation is wonderful and how they should make three memorials right there. I think he is in one of those situations where no one is talking and you feel compelled to say anything even if it is something stupid? He is anxious because no one is reacting.
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!)
Not sure here… to make it more authentic for the group? To give support to Jesus?
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
God presented Himself in a cloud and said that Jesus was His dearly beloved Son, and they should listen to Him. Moses and Elijah are gone then and only Jesus is left. I think this happens because God wants them to know that Jesus is the only one that trumps all others.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I love John Frahm’s story for it reminds me of a conversation I had with my husband Saturday night.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
I believed in Jesus since I was a little girl but didn’t have a relationship with Him until my early 20’s. I identify with having the Gospel in your head but experiencing Him is completely different. My husband and I talked about this the other night.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
Firstly, not to hoard and think about others in need. Secondly, I need to be there for my mom via running errands for her after work. She has COPD and is 81 years old. I don’t want her getting out too much and especially so if it gets worse. Being aware of the elderly in my neighborhood and checking in on them and just being aware of the needs around me.
Firstly, not to hoard and think about others in need!
Praying for your mom, Rebecca. And more.
Hi – this is my first time to be diligent about keeping up with a study and also my first time to post. You are church to me.Monday: Regarding Elijah, I did a word search on an online Bible site and I was fascinated by how much the verses regarding him reminded me of the things we’ve just seen Jesus doing in the past few chapters. Amazing commonalities between the two.
Cynthia — so very good to have you here! Yes — it is fascinating to see parallels between Elijah and Jesus — no wonder many thought Jesus was Elijah come back.
Welcome, Cynthia, it is such a good study, I agree.
Glad you are here with us! Welcome 😊
Welcome Cynthi :)”You are church to me”I have often felt this way too.
Welcome Cynthi, so glad to have you with us.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
“The longest 18 inches” from the head to the heart. OH my, yes. I once had a Bible study teacher lovingly point out to me that I knew a lot of information in my head, but what was I doing with it? It is so easy to “do” Bible study, to read the passages, answer the questions, and yet, not experience Jesus. I admit that personally, sometimes even my times in prayer seem so hollow, and I wonder, where are You, God? Jesus even said to the religious leaders (but also to us, to me) that we diligently search the Scriptures but we miss Him. I think that’s what He was talking about.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
I can identify with how he thought he could make the Alpha curriculum better. I’m not rewriting a Bible curriculum, but this is my story: I’ve been in the ‘evangelical world’ for many years now, and I’d say in the past couple of years I’ve been introduced to other views, too…I’m not talking anything like Eastern religions or New Age spirituality, but rather just how other denominations think and do things. Some of this has been through podcasts, through encounters with people, and even in my attending a book discussion group at an Episcopal church. I’ve been critical in my heart about evangelicalism in America, personally questioning many things. I have been drawn to what I’ll call seeking more depth. I can see how in many ways, I’ve been prideful, too, thinking that I know better.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
To be in prayer for our world, our country, our leaders, the families of those who have lost loved ones, for our health care workers, for God to have mercy on us all to end this pandemic. To not complain about small inconveniences, and to cherish time with loved ones. To be kind and gracious at public places. (The police were called last week to a store due to two women physically fighting over toilet paper). I was saddened yesterday as I got a phone call from the daughter of an elderly lady whom I’ve been visiting since last Fall; she was a shut-in due to her declining health. I visited her the Monday before my daughter and I went to Florida and I fully expected to see her again. I called her last Monday, hoping to come visit, but she didn’t answer her phone. Her daughter called me yesterday and told me that Edith passed away while I was in Florida, and she was going through her Mom’s messages and heard mine. She hadn’t been ill, so it was unexpected. I’m glad that I did visit her before I left; sometimes I think, oh, I don’t have time because I’ve got other things to do, but truly, it’s people that matter most.
Susan, your honesty and compassion are wonderful character traits. I know it is difficult to evaluate faiths because there are ways that disappoint. We are in this journey and it’s good to be honest.
Susan, I am so sorry to hear of the death of your friend. How kind for you to keep in touch with her. I’m sure it meant a lot to her family. I hope I have a friend like you when I am old 😘.
So glad you visited your friend before she died!
So true about how we can be judgmental about other Christian groups. I personally love Reformed Theology and see much value in it, but also often sense an ugly pride. Being in the prisons and seeing their charismatic joy, or being with groups (like believing Episcopalians) who bring in all the senses to experience God broadens my horizons. Every tribe and nation will be on the new earth!
4. Read Mark 9:2-8
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter? – They would have to deny themselves; they would have to lose their lives in order to save it; if they tried keeping hold of their things they would be giving up their souls; if they are ashamed to speak of Him, Jesus will be ashamed of them as well
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4) – Jesus took Peter, James and John. They saw Jesus transfigure before their eyes and they saw Moses and Elijah talking with Jesus.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!) – Peter said it was good that they were there to see it, and that asked if they should build three tents, one for Jesus, Moses and Elijah. I think he was shocked, maybe a bit terrified and confused as to what was happening in front of their eyes. I think he was maybe scared and didn’t know what else to say, but was trying to show he had a servant’s heart and wanted to build the tents for them. Kind of like when you know you should say something to acknowledge the incident but you are grasping for the right words, and you say whatever comes to your mind and that is usually not the right thing at all.
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!) – I found an article ‘Moses, Elijah, adn Jesus: Why are they all together at the Transfigurtion, written by Daniel Esparza, on this because I have no clue and one part says that Moses is representing the law and when he came down from Sinai ‘his face was radiant’ and Elijah represents the Prophets and Elijah was also taken in to heaven in bodily form.
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how? – A cloud came and overshadowed them and a voice came from the cloud saying “This is my beloved son; listen to him” and after the voice came Moses and Elijah were gone. Only Jesus was standing there with them.
Julie, can you post a link to the article? I‘m interested.
This made me smile from Julie on Peter’s response:
Kind of like when you know you should say something to acknowledge the incident but you are grasping for the right words, and you say whatever comes to your mind and that is usually not the right thing at all.
Tuesday
4. Read Mark 9:2-9
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
He tells them that He must suffer terrible things, be rejected by the elders, leading priests and the teachers of religion. He will be killed and 3 days later rise from the dead.
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4)
He took Peter, James and John. They watched as the appearance of Jesus made a dramatic change, his clothes became a dazzling white, whiter than any cleaner on earth could do. Elijah and Moses appeared with them and started talking to Jesus.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!)
He exclaimed, Rabbi, it is a wonderful thing for us to be with you. He then suggested to make shelters, one for Him, one for Elijah and one for Moses as a memorial.
It says in the passage that he said this cause he didn’t know what else to say and they were all terrified.
I think this response is so Peter…I do think it was wonderful for him, but Peter was a man of action, he wasn’t content just being an onlooker…there must be something to be done?!
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!)
Moses was given the law and Elijah was a prophet? Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law of Moses and the writings of the prophets but to accomplish their purpose.
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
That Jesus was His dearly beloved Son and they were told to listen to Him. A cloud overshadowed them and He spoke from the cloud.
4. Mark 9:2-8
A. In the last chapter Jesus has revealed to his disciples that he must suffer and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed.
B. Jesus took with him Peter and James and John and led them up a high mountain and there he was transfigured and his clothes became intensely white and there was Elijah and Moses,talking with Jesus.
C. Peter’s immediate reaction was to propose to make 3 tents, one for each, (scripture says, for he did not know what to say), being terrified.
Peter appears to me like a gentle giant, wanting to do what he could…
D. I think Moses and Elijah were with Jesus because they were both leaders God chose to guide his people; Moses to free them, Elijah to prophecy.
E. In verses 7 and 8, God spoke and revealed his relationship and instructed them to follow him! And suddenly the other 2 were no longer there. This is such an amazing experience for the 3 of them and amazes me to read.
5. What comments do you have on the above?
I like art, and went to art museums with my children when they were growing up. I don’t know if I am familiar with this particular work; it does seem familiar but then again I have never been to the Vatican museum, so maybe not? I like the contrast between the light and the darkness. It is cool how he is portraying both scenes. I also think it’s pretty amazing that the artists of those days had such large paintings with such glorious color.
6. In chapter Ten of King’s Cross (The Mountan) read up to “The Death of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
Jesus radiates the glory of God. He is God on earth. I love this because it shows how God was with the people literally.
The disciples are with Jesus/God and they do not die. To me this means that something has changed since the old testament. Keller says that the reason they don’t die, and the reason Moses and Elijah disappear, is because Jesus brings a new way. Jesus “bridges the gap“ for humanity.
Keller describes the disciples as being in worship at this time. He quotes CS Lewis who says that humans want and need a connection to God. Our hearts long for it and when we have it we have a good rapport with God. Right now we are outside of that true worship because we live in this fallen world. But there is hope, one day we will be with him together in worship.
What stands out to you from the above and why?
This:
“Though shocked, John did as they asked.”A miracle of grace! I am so grateful that his pride didn’t claim the day. And for the influence, they had with you Dee.
This also spoke to me:
“Yet the Lord has kept them close and refined both of them”
Though ‘refining’ is scary, this is my hope in this season as Bill and I meet with a counselor.
Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something about it.
Our counselor asked us simple but deep questions last time we met. Being honest…out loud…is hard. He asked us how we see God, how we see our selves, how we think God sees us, and what tells us who we are. He asked us not to give the Sunday School answer but share what was really true.
I know what the answers should be, saying out loud how much the lies of the enemy frame these things for me was difficult. So I can identify with John in the difficulty of seeing and admitting where I misplace my trust, I want to be humble and I if I am honest, I dislike having to be humble at the same time. I am grateful for the way God reveals things to me and allows me to re-direct.
How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic?
With humility, my knee-jerk is to be annoyed and think this is a massive overreaction. I do not see everything, I want to hold my opinions carefully. I don’t know everything, I certainly don’t wish to square off against people who see things differently than I do. And I don’t want people to be ill or our healthcare facilities and providers to be overcome. There are two local churches, one we used to attend and the other that was started by the youth pastor of that church who have been highly critical of one another as one chose to do a virtual service and the other chose to meet as usual on Sunday. Many on each side seem to feel superior to those in the other camp, some of the comments have been ugly.
Oh I will be praying for you and Bill! I always love your introspective and vulnerable heart.
Sad story about two churches but such good application to us all!
Chris, I like how your counselor tells you not to give the Sunday school answer but instead, share what’s really true. It’s only when we really admit what’s going on in our own heart that we can be helped.
Those are such deep questions from your counselor. I agree, it’s so hard to speak the truth out loud. Praying for you to have courage.
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
That he would suffer, be rejected and killedThat they would need to deny themselves, and take up their own crosses to follow him
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see?
Peter, James & John, they saw the Glory of God, a glimpse of Jesus as he really is.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!)
I think Peter was overwhelmed and that his normal reaction when he was overwhelmed was to speak or do something rather than be silent, Peter is an impulsive person.
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!)I don’t have any insights here, I think I read one time that they encouraged Jesus, knowing the terrible trial he had ahead of him.
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
That Jesus was truly the Son of God, by speaking audibly out of the cloud- I imagine that Peter probably shut his mouth then 🙂
5. What comments do you have on the above? – As I was looking at this painting and listening, I realize that as far back as this painting and even further there has always been and most likely always will be good and evil going on at the same time, until Jesus returns. I need to remember that though I may be having all God moments in my life, there are others who are struggling and wondering when their trial will be over. Help me Lord to not be so focused in my blessing by you, that I can’t be a blessing to someone else in their time of struggle. Help me to always have my eyes open to the world around me. In Jesus Name. Amen!
I do think that was Raphael’s point — we need those moments of glory to face the evil on earth!
4. Read Mark 9:2-8 A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
In Chapter 8, we read that He began to teach them that He must suffer an intense, abusive death.
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4)
Jesus took Peter and James and John up the mountain. He was transfigured in front of them; His clothes became radiant, intensely white; and Elijah and Moses appeared and were talking with Jesus.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!)
Peter is afraid, overwhelmed by the presence of God. He wants to build a tent, a tabernacle, for Jesus, Moses and Elijah. I’ve always thought he didn’t want the moment to end–he wanted to make it permanent!
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? (Another challenge question!)
Moses and Elijah symbolized the Law and the Prophets which Jesus fulfilled.
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
God came as a voice in the cloud and declared Jesus His Beloved Son, whom they should listen to, and Moses and Elijah vanished.
9. Read “The Death of Glory” in Chapter 10 and share your notes and comments.
Worship gives us access to the very presence of God. Worship allows us to sense, experience what we already know to be true—God’s love for us.
10. Read Mark 9:14-18 A. Describe the scene that James, John, and Peter return to see. Find all the details that must have so distressed the father of the boy.
There was a crowd arguing around the disciples and a man whose son had a demon in his spirit that made him mute, and fall to the ground with foaming of his mouth and grinding of his teeth. The man had asked the disciples to cast it out, but they could not.
5. The Painting of the Transfiguration shows the amazing group of Jesus in the glorious appearance of his radiance with Moses and Elijah above the overwhelmed 3 disciples which contrasts with the others below surrounded by the crowd. There is much contrast depicted, as noted between light and darkness and mercy and sin, for example.
6. Chapter 10: The Mountain
Keller always explains scripture so clearly. The second half of Mark is now about Jesus’ purpose. Now he will speak about his death in a way that is “hard for the disciples to swallow.” He makes it clear what his followers must also do- We must take up a cross and die to self.
He clearly explains about Moses who went to the top of the mountain, asking God to “show me your glory”, but he was not able to see it directly. Exodus 33:18-23 However Jesus does not point to the glory of God- He is the radiance of God’s glory! He also explains about Peter’s desire to put up tabernacles; he is actually saying we need to set up rituals to protect us from the presence of God. Then the cloud appeared(God’s shekinah glory) and God speaks. Mark was showing that Jesus is the bridge over the gap between God and humanity. So much depth here…Jesus is the temple, the tabernacle, and is the sacrifice to end all sacrifices.
In this experience Peter, James and john experienced worship. This worship is what all of our hearts are longing for,says C.S. Lewis in his sermon, “The Weight of Glory”.
Such a good thought for meditation, Shirley: This worship is what all of our hearts are longing for
4. Read Mark 9:2-8
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter?
Jesus had told them how he would be rejected, suffer, and be killed.
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see?
Jesus took Peter, James, and John up the mountain with Him and they saw His appearance transformed; His clothes became dazzling white. Then they saw Moses and Elijah appear. I always wonder how they knew who these men were…did Jesus greet them by name? They didn’t have photographs, so I just wonder how they were identified.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think?
Peter is like wow, this is amazing….this is so wonderful for us to be here together! He says let’s make three shelters (tabernacles) one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah. My translation says “Let’s make three shelters as memorials”. The next line says that Peter said all this because he was terrified and really didn’t know what to say. Maybe he was trying to make some earthly sense of what was happening; he sees two men who’ve long been dead standing in front of him and even Jesus looks different.
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there?
I am not sure. I thought of how Moses wanted so badly to have the Lord pass in front of him so that he could see Him in all His glory, but God only showed him a tiny bit, saying that he couldn’t see it and survive. Here, Moses gets to see Jesus transfigured in His glory. I have also heard sermons surmising that Jesus talked to Moses about His “exodus”…many similarities between the Passover in Egypt and Moses leading the people out and Jesus’ being our Passover Lamb. I don’t know a whole lot about Elijah. But since it’s not recorded for us, what they talked about or said, we’re all guessing.
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how?
God’s voice speaks from a cloud, telling the disciples that “this is my dearly loved Son; listen to him”.
5. What comments do you have on the above?
That was a very helpful explanation of the painting because I didn’t know or understand what the scene below represented, or why it was even there. It seems that Raphael sure had spiritual insight and vision when he painted this. He depicts the transfiguration a bit differently than I imagine it, with Jesus, Moses, and Elijah floating in the air and the disciples on their faces. The priest explained that below is the disciples encounter with a demon possessed young boy. I also watched another video about the painting and it was said that a cardinal commissioned Raphael to do this painting during the time of the Renaissance because it was during this time that people began enjoying life here more, and their spiritual life became less important. So, the contrast between the light where Jesus is, and the darkness below. The people in the painting are pointing; a few seem to be pointing or looking upward at Jesus, indicating that they believe He is the only one able to help the boy. Others are pointing at each other, but how the boy is depicted indicates that he is incurable. The boy’s eyes seem to be looking upward at Jesus, too. This video said the idea was that praying would give you rebirth and growth (the top part of the painting) and not praying would give you turmoil and death (the bottom part).
Good thoughts on the painting, Susan!
7. Read Mark 9:9-13
A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think?
He tells them to not speak of His Transfiguration until “…the Son of Man has risen from the dead.”
It’s like the other times He tells people to not speak of what they saw…maybe He knew people weren’t ready for the news yet? it was a timing thing?
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah — what does Jesus say here? Can you explain the apparent contradiction?
The scripture does not mention John the Baptist in four versions I reviewed. However in the Amplified Bible there was a note about it being a reference to him. Jesus says the “Elijah” who came was abused as scriptures predicted. Maybe the name could be used as an adjective and it describes anyone who precedes another event?
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share briefly here.
Hmmm….only in the beauty and glory of our world I suppose? I know He has been near me though at times. I have felt His presence with me several times when a could have been destitute (13 standing by my dying dads bedside), and was destitute (son who kept running away and we were desperately trying to find him). I can’t believe that He wouldn’t have been there for me with all the Sarah stuff we went through, but when I look at the babies, I see Him everyday in my life. They are blessings to us.
9. Read “The Death of Glory” in Chapter 10 and share your notes and comments.
“God is also preparing the disciples for the test they will face when their leader is taken from them.” I have never thought of this before! How the disciples needed someone to take care of them after Jesus was crucified.
We need to experience God through worship. The disciples got this with the Transfiguration.
I accidentally posted 9& 10 without my 7 & 8 &, so here it is:
7. Read Mark 9:9-13 A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think?
Jesus charged them not to tell anyone what they had seen, until He rose from the dead.
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah — what does Jesus say here? Can you explain the apparent contradiction?
John the Baptist came in the “spirit” of Elijah-Luke 1:17 “and he will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.”
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share briefly here.
There have been times of prayer with other believers, one just a few weeks ago, when I have felt His presence so strong.
11. Read Mark 9:19-29 A. Describe the conversation between Jesus and the father. (21-24)
Jesus calls them a faithless generation, and asks for the boy. The spirit in the boy responded to Jesus with convulsions and foaming at the mouth. Jesus asked his father, “How long has this been happening to him?” The Father said it had been there since the child was young and then said “if you can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.” Jesus replied “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.” And immediately the father cried out “I believe; help my unbelief!”
B. What happens next?
Jesus cast out the demon and lifted the boy up. The disciples asked why they were not able to cast it out and He said it must be cast out with prayer.
C. What do you learn from this narrative that you could apply to your life?
Believe. He hears. He is good. Nothing is more powerful than Him. No one is out of His reach.
D. Is there a specific area in your life that you could pray as the father did in verse 24? If so, do it here.
There is one area of life that I have to most battle fear. Fear of what may be around the corner, what this person might do, or what God may ask of me or allow us to face. Father, I do trust You. Help my unbelief!
12. Read Mark 9:30-34 A. What hard thing does Jesus clearly tell them here?
He told them of His death and resurrection.
B. Why, when He was so clear, do you think they did not understand?
The did not have the Spirit to explain to them? They did not want it to be true. He was there with them and it was too hard to imagine what He was saying was true.
C. Does this give any light on why He had Peter, James, and John behold His glory at the transfiguration?
Maybe it gave them a taste of what was to come, and it must have been an encouragement to their soul.
13. Read the last section in Keller’s chapter 10 entitled “A Glimpse of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
Saving faith is faith in Jesus instead of self. Perfect righteousness is impossible for us. Come into His presence admitting the need for help, admitting my unrighteousness.
On the mountain, God was strengthening Jesus through the Spirit, for His mission.God can empower us the same way to face our suffering. When we pursue God in repentant helplessness, we worship Him. Every time we sense His embrace, we shine with His glory, and we are a bit more ready to face what is in store for us.
Raphael’s painting of The Transfiguration was considered the most famous painting in the world for nearly five centuries. Here, in the museum that has the original, his purpose in depicting two scenes at once is explained:
5. What comments do you have on the above?
Thank you for including Raphael’s painting. I am not “into” art. I don’t usually understand painting unless someone interprets it for me. Light and darkness, glory and confusion. The explanation was helpful. I might research it further at another time.
I have missed posting this week. Things are hectic and confusing here so this painting is appropriate to our times. I have been trying to focus on God’s glory for Lent. I want to go deeper into my faith and trust, but the world with its crises and demands seem to distract, to get in the way. Near panic seems just below the surface of the whole of North America right now. I have to deliberately stop and refocus on God. He is in control. May His glory be seen, above and beyond our earthly fears.
Good thought for all of us:
Near panic seems just below the surface of the whole of North America right now. I have to deliberately stop and refocus on God. He is in control. May His glory be seen, above and beyond our earthly fears.
Tuesday 5. What comments do you have on the above?
Beautiful painting…not familiar with it but seems apropos for what we’re experiencing today. So important to keep our focus on Him where we find true peace and comfort. Looking at this from a photographer perspective it is interesting that according to the rule of thirds, which many artists used as well, the eye is drawn to the boy and his parents. In reading up on the painting there is thought that the painting should of been called “Healing of the Obsessed Youth” because it takes precedence over the picture of Christ. I found this interesting as I agree…not changing the name but that it takes precedence.
6. In chapter Ten of King’s Cross (The Mountan) read up to “The Death of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
When Moses and Elijah were suddenly gone, it was Marks way of saying Moses is gone, Elijah is gone, and Jesus is the bridge over the gap between God and humanity. Jesus is able to give what Elijah couldn’t give, what Moses couldn’t give, what no one else could ever deliver. Worship isn’t just believing but being enveloped by the presence of God!
Interesting observation on painting — how eye is drawn to boy and parents — how we can focus on the panic today and not Christ!
6. In chapter Ten of King’s Cross (The Mountain) read up to “The Death of Glory” and share your notes and comments. – I need to slow down more when I read the Bible, I never realized that Mark had so much of the little details that I missed like that the first part of Mark, Jesus was just telling people to follow him, but as the book goes on, Jesus give more detail as to what is involved in following him. It’s not just a simple walk with Jesus, you are going to have to put some honest effort in to your walk with Him. I like how Keller explained the difference between Moses being on the mountain and Jesus being there. Moses reflected the glory of God and Jesus produces the glory of God that is unsurpassable by anyone other being.
Golden nugget from Keller:
Moses reflected the glory of God and Jesus produces the glory of God that is unsurpassable by anyone other being.
Wednesday: The Death of Glory
7. Read Mark 9:9-13
A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think? – Jesus tells them to not tell anyone what they saw until the Son of Man had risen from the dead. I’m thinking that if they told, like everyone else always did when Jesus told them not to, that this would go against God’s plan and the leaders would be after Jesus to kill him before his time had come. (Love the below reason)
The disciples were told not to speak of it – until after the Resurrection. One reason for this is to avoid jealousy among the disciples (remember, these folks argued over who would be the greatest.) They needed to see his glory before the Crucifixion – but the lessons learned would only be useful afterwards. (Charles Spurgeon)
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah — what does Jesus say here? Can you explain the apparent contradiction? – Jesus said that Elijah does come first and restores all things. And that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected as it is written. He goes on to say that Elijah has come and they have done everything to him that they wanted to as it was also written about him. I’m not sure on the contradiction, is it because John the Baptist doesn’t think he is worthy to be on the same level as Elijah, or did John the Baptist know what would happen to him so if he says he wasn’t Elijah it may pass him?
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share briefly here. – For me this is a hard word to explain, but when I see a situation that has gone bad, turn around and have signs of God’s hands all over it, it is only by His glory that any good came out of it. I saw this just yesterday, when one of the Ladies in our small group texted me asking me to pray for her on how her attitude was against something said in the group. When she first put the message out that I didn’t know what to say, so I sad nothing. I was asking God to help me know what to do, that maybe I wasn’t cut out to be a facilitator, that I don’t want to handle the ‘drama’ in the group. Getting ready to say I’m done, she texted me and asked for prayer. We had a little bit of time to discuss what happened and I feel that was only God having her text me. I was trying to avoid the situation, but I feel this was God’s glory coming through in this.
9. Read “The Death of Glory” in Chapter 10 and share your notes and comments. – This was interesting to me, “Just as Elijah’s coming was a herald of the Lord’s coming, so Elijah’s execution (John the Baptist had been beheaded by Herod) is a herald of the Lord’s execution.” Wow I never realized this. I want to be so much more aware of these glimpses of things to come. I need to have my eyes wide open, so I can experience the true beauty and glory of God.
7. Mark 9: 9-13 Jesus gave orders to the 3 disciples not to tell anyone what they had seen, until the Son of Man had risen from the dead.
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah, though Jesus said, “Elijah does come first, to restore all things.” verse 12 and then in verse 13 he says, “But I tell you Elijah has come.” In my research I found that John the Baptist said in John 1:23, “I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as the prophet Isaiah said.” So I think he represents one like Elijah.
8. Has the Lord given you a glimpse of his glory? I believe that as I read the scripture about Jesus and experience the joy of his words that this is truly a glimpse of his glory.It’s also a glimpse when I take communion or am present at a baptism that I experience his glory. Of course this is small in comparison to the scripture we are studying!
In the death of glory, Keller states that this experience strengthened Jesus and prepared the disciples for what they would face after Jesus is taken from them. Then he asks a series of questions, wouldn’t trouble make you wiser, stronger? wouldn’t suffering make you more compassionate rather than cynical? He says, of course, it would. But to get the experience we need worship!
He says that the Transfiguration is an experience of worship that they are going to need for what is ahead.
He also explains that the prophet Malachi prophesied that the prophet Elijah would return and Jesus said the prophet was speaking about John the Baptist and his sufferings. So much prophecy is fulfilled in Jesus’ ministry and it is interesting to discover these truths.
Today I listened to a beautiful worship song, probably known by most, but I so enjoyed the words and music, Christ is risen from the dead, Trampling over death by death, come awake, come awake, Let us rise up from the grave,,, O death, where is your sting? Matt Maher
Shirley, that’s one of my favorites! We used to sing at my old church. Great lyrics to remember now
6. In chapter 10 of King’s Cross (The Mountain) read up to “The Death of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
Keller explains why Peter and the others were so scared. They must have been thinking about Moses and Mount Sinai, how the glory of God came down on the mountain and no one could be near God except for Moses, because God allowed him, yet God was concealed from Moses by the cloud, so his face shone because he got near God’s glory. But here, they don’t just get kind of near, they are enveloped in God’s glory; Jesus radiates it because He IS God, He IS glory, and they live. Keller explains why Peter then wanted to build tabernacles, because that’s what the Israelites did at Mount Sinai.
10. Read Mark 9:14-18
A. Describe the scene that James, John, and Peter return to see. Find all the details that must have so distressed the father of the boy.
The disciples come back to a scene of gathered people, with the scribes, who are arguing about something. When the people see Jesus, they run to Him in excitement. He asks them why they are arguing. One of them explains that he has a son who is demon possessed and it makes him mute. He then goes on to explain that sometimes the demon takes control and throws him down on the ground. His mouth foams and teeth grind, and he becomes rigid. He says that he asked the disciples to extract the demon, but they could not.
B. Why do you think Raphael included this scene in his painting?
I think many could relate to this story because many had children. We want the best for our kids and when they have an affliction (like epilepsy for example) we struggle knowing what the right thing to do is. My sister had this issue right now with her daughter who does have epilepsy. No medicine seems to work and my niece has to be driven to work, may have a seizure at any moment, has hit her head while seizing, etc. it is frustrating for all. It reminds me of this situation in the Bible.
He also may have included it because it really does depict heaven versus hell, doesn’t it? We on earth have no control over the ugly, fallen-ness of our world, and are stuck here unless we choose a better way. The top of the painting shows us the better way.
11. Read Mark 9:19-29
A. Describe the conversation between Jesus and the father. (21-24)
At first He addresses the crowd. Jesus basically dismisses their faith. I thought it kind of rude how Jesus laments about the crowd being faithless. He seems exasperated really. It doesn’t seem like Jesus would be the one to act in that fashion. I wonder if He was exhausted?
When He talks to the father, he asks how long this has been happening to him. The father replies, “Since he was a little boy.” He then describes how the demon has thrown the boy into cold and hot water. He asks Jesus to help them, “…if He can.” Jesus gets mad here (weird again), and seems to be, again, exasperated, saying, “… if I can?” (Like that saying, “Do you know who I am?” Hahaha). Jesus says anything is possible with belief. The man says he believes but needs help with his unbelief.
B. What happens next?
Jesus sees the crowd gathering (?) and begins to work with the boy. This seems weird to me too because it’s like He wants to put on a show all of the sudden. Is it just me or does it seem like He is allowing people to see more compared to earlier?
He then speaks to the spirit commanding it to leave the boy. The spirit screams, convulses the boy, but then leaves him. The boys appears dead. Jesus takes the boys hand and helps him up.
The disciples asked Jesus why they couldn’t help the boy. Jesus responds the demon was a difficult one and needed special prayer to get rid of it.
C. What do you learn from this narrative that you could apply to your life?
I suppose that faith is important if we are to have our prayers answered?
D. Is there a specific area in your life that you could pray as the father did in verse 24? If so, do it here.
I think I falter when it comes to believing that my children will ever turn back to God.
Desr Lord, Thank You for the story of the demon possessed boy and his father. It helps to remind us that with faith, anything may be accomplished. Please turn my children to You help them remember how safe we are in Your arms. Remind them of Your goodness, and how life is sweet when we are in tune with You, Lord. Thank You for being a balm to them. In Your Holy Name I pray. Amen.
Geeat prayer, Laura.
10. Read Mark 9:14-18
A. Describe the scene that James, John, and Peter return to see. Find all the details that must have so distressed the father of the boy. – They came back to the other disciples and a large crowd and the teachers of the law were arguing. A boy was possessed by a spirit that took away his speech. When they saw Jesus they all ran to him as they were overwhelmed with wonder. The father was probably distressed because the disciples that were there could not heal him of the spirit and maybe it was because the teacher of the law were there and they were afraid to perform the ‘miracle’. They were arguing and probably not helping the situation at all and making the disciples hold back their faith in healing the boy. The boy’s father was upset and needed help.
B. Why do you think Raphael included this scene in his painting? – To show that good and evil is happening at the same time. I saw in the verses that they ran to Jesus overwhelmed with wonder. Could they still see the glory that Jesus produces?
11. Read Mark 9:19-29
A. Describe the conversation between Jesus and the father. (21-24) – Jesus asked the father how long the boy had been like that. The father replied since childhood and that the spirit would throw the boy in to the fire or water trying to kill him. Then the father asked Jesus if he could do anything to have pity on them and heal his boy. Jesus questioned him back saying ‘if you can?’ and said if you believe anything is possible. The boys father immediately said he believed and asked for help to overcome his unbelief.
B. What happens next? – Jesus saw a crowd running toward them and he rebuked the evil spirit and commanded it to come out of the boy and to never enter him again. The spirit acted out violently and came out. The others thought the boy was dead but Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him up. When the disciples and Jesus were away from the others they asked him why they couldn’t rebuke the spirit. Jesus said prayer was needed.
C. What do you learn from this narrative that you could apply to your life? – I see that if you are arguing amongst each other when something happens you are not going to be able to see the solution because you will be distracted by other things or people around you. I need to step back, pray and ask God to help me be bold and confident in what I’m needing to do.
D. Is there a specific area in your life that you could pray as the father did in verse 24? If so, do it here. – Lord you know the situation with Joe. You know that the doctor is confident that he got all the cancer by removing the prostate, but Lord I feel right now doubt and a little bit of fear is setting in for tomorrow’s appointment to see what the bloodwork shows his PSA level is at. I know you did all good in caring for him through this whole thing. Help my unbelief and fear be gone and to rely and depend only on you and your thoughts. Make your glory shine in tomorrow’s appointment Lord and help me be strong right now. In Jesus Name AMEN!
12. Read Mark 9:30-34
A. What hard thing does Jesus clearly tell them here? – He told them, ‘the Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him and after three days he will rise.
B. Why, when He was so clear, do you think they did not understand? – I think sometimes we just don’t want to believe something bad is going to happen so we just jump over it, don’t want to talk about it. But in their case, I’m wondering if they just didn’t want Jesus to know they just still didn’t understand what he was saying. They have seen in the past how he responded in annoyance when he has to keep telling them over and over again about himself, so they just stay quiet.
N. T. Wright thinks that because Jesus usually spoke in parables, they were looking for a hidden meaning. I tend to think that when things are so painful to hear, we don’t want to believe them. Though doctors told us Steve would die, I refused to believe it.
C. Does this give any light on why He had Peter, James, and John behold His glory at the transfiguration? – yes it does. I think this helps to show that Jesus is giving them a prequel on to what is coming. So when it does they won’t be completely surprised by it. For me I had this happen when my dad was really sick. I had been praying for his healing but it wasn’t coming and he was in pain. I started saying ‘Lord if you aren’t going to heal him then take him so he’s not suffering any longer’ and one night I had a dream where I saw my dad in the coffin. His death came not too long after that, and I was of course upset, but seemed more prepared for it I guess. Thank you Lord for showing me that, otherwise I know I would have fallen apart at his death.
Prayers with you, Julie, for your husband’s follow-up appointment.
Laura here is that article I mentioned earlier in the week on the transfiguration.
https://aleteia.org/2019/03/17/moses-elijah-and-jesus-why-are-they-all-together-at-the-transfiguration/
Thanks Julie!
You’re welcome Laura. Sorry it took me so long.
10. Mark 9:14-18 when they returned from the mountain, Jesus and the 3 encountered an unruly crowd who were arguing. In response to the question, a man said, I brought my son who has a spirit that makes him mute. It seizes him, throws him down and he foams and becomes rigid. Your disciples were not able to cast it out.
From the description of Raphael’s painting, there were contrasts from the scene of glory to the unruly crowd. From peace to distress.
11. Mark 9: 19-29 In the conversation Jesus asks the father, How long has this been happening to him? From childhood, and it has often cast him into fire and into water, to destroy him, but if you can, help him! Jesus said, All things are possible to him who believes. The father said, I believe, help my unbelief!
C. What do I learn to apply to my life? Well I know that I have a tendency to become anxious and fret so I must keep this verse in my heart to meditate on for the difficult times of pain and distress.To rest assured that God knows and has control when I can’t feel the relief.
D. My prayer is to cast all my cares on the Lord. The stresses presently and the disappointments are a true test of faith.
Good prayer for these times, Shirley.
12. Mark 9:30-34 A. The hard thing that Jesus told the disciples is that He is to be delivered into the hands of men and they would kill him, and that after 3 days he will rise. But they could not understand.
B. I think they did not understand what Jesus was telling them so clearly is that it just did not fit their concept of what the Messiah would be accomplishing. They wanted the glory to come in the immediate time. Yes, it is denial.
C. I think that their experience of the Transfiguration definitely was a preparation for the fulfillment of his glory, yet they were not to speak of it. And it was all more than they could comprehend.
12. Read Mark 9:30-34
A. What hard thing does Jesus clearly tell them here?
He says He will be betrayed and that He will be killed. He also says He will rise from the dead.
B. Why, when He was so clear, do you think they did not understand?
I guess because it is painful to accept truth sometimes? The rising might have been confusing though, since that doesn’t/didn’t naturally happen. But then again they had seen Him being people back to life, so they should have understood that. I’m not sure. I guess because it was just too unbelievable to believe…
C. Does this give any light on why He had Peter, James, and John behold His glory at the transfiguration?
I suppose. I’m sure that was like seeing a ghost. I have had times when I thought I saw something and then did a double take and “it” was gone. I wonder if they felt that way when they saw the transfiguration? Then, when He describes His death, I would think, there would be no confusion at all? But they seem confused anyway? Not getting this.
Did the article Julie sent help at all?
Yes, I think you are right that we tend to forget or explain away the miracles God does in our lives.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? John Frahm’s story… specifically his boldness in sending suggested changes to the publisher. Then the publisher telling to watch again (what wonderful discernment) and he did watch them again! God was melting him.
2. Can you identify in any way with John Frahm’s story? If so, share something specific about it. Yes, I can. I was brought up with someone who was very proud in their theology but never did quite have a drop to the heart (seemingly…I can not judge.) I learned that and still struggle with it today. Listening to a sermon and “catching things” that are ‘off’ … I truly just try to listen but many pastors are *just* preaching theology (vs Gospel that obviously includes theology). This is why I listen to Keller so much (and a few others) because they engage Gospel and then, for some reason, my theology filter doesn’t get in the way.
3. How do you think the Lord would have you respond during this pandemic? I am an RN. I have already been tasked in this pandemic when the virus crossed into Montana several days ago. (I have worked extra all week.) Our neighbor counties have confirmed positives so we are gearing up and getting ready. Currently I am team leading (with two others) our facility’s COVID-19 nurse triage line. I am also on-call for the ICU. I assume this is how God wants me to respond….with the tasks given to me to help care for our community. Our family is self-isolating as well as trying to send cards to local nursing homes to cheer them in their isolation…. I can’t help but be struck by how God does NOT want us o live in isolation but the enemy does…. I am not saying we shouldn’t be good stewards for our community’s health but it does seem a direct tactic by the Enemy … we have to find ways to continue community and drawing together in times of trouble! (Thinking of the Italians singing together.)
Prayers for your work during this crisis. May you be safe and be a light to those you work with and for those you care for Thank you. For I know the difficulties of this work.
Jill…prayers for you as you lead your hospitals response. I work for our state Dept. of Public Health and things are very hectic. Grace & Peace❤️
Praying for you as you respond to this pandemic, Jill. God bless and protect you and so many medical people as you reach out during this crisis.
4. Read Mark 9:2-8
A. For context, what hard truths did Jesus tell the disciples in the last chapter? That he would suffer, be rejected, and die. Also that each of them would have to take up their own cross if they were to follow him.
B. Whom did Jesus take up the mountain and what did they see? (2-4) Peter, James, and John. They saw Jesus transfigured, intensely white and radiant with Elijah and Moses.
C. What is Peter’s immediate reaction, and why, do you think? (Challenge question!) Terrified. He offered to make a tent… an echo of the tabernacle perhaps? The place where God dwelled. Peter was reacting with religion and tradition. I think he wanted to show reverence to each but didn’t understand Christ’s purpose fully yet… I wonder if 1 or 2 Peter has any insight.
D. Why do you think Moses and Elijah were there? They were speaking to him about his departure…. but a lot of times these things are not for the characters ‘ benefit but for the observers benefit. Was Christ making a parallel for the disciples? Connecting the dots between the two others taken by God and himself (Moses was buried by God, Elijah was taken by God)
E. What did God clarify in verses 7-8 and how? He declared Jesus was His son and should be listened to.
Friday: A Glimpse of Glory
13. Read the last section in Keller’s chapter 10 entitled “A Glimpse of Glory” and share your notes and comments. – This was a great chapter and I just about underlined the whole last section 🙂 What an eye opener, that the disciples were trying to have the power that Jesus has and thought they could exorcise a demon. But what they needed to remember is they are not Jesus and they needed to pray to Jesus to help them. I don’t need to have perfect righteousness, I just need to know that I am helpless and can only conquer what comes before me with Jesus. Though I highlighted almost all of page 133, I loved the picture of Jesus’ unconditional love when Keller describe “on the mountain we see Jesus surrounded by God; on the cross he will be forsaken. On the mountain we see the life he has always led–embraced and clothed with the love and light of God–but on the cross he will be naked in the dark.” This is truly unconditional love, and to do it for me, a sinner who disappoints him daily.
A Glimpse of Glory
How to make our way into God’s presence? The story of the father who brought his son who has a demon that causes him to be deaf and mute and have convulsions follows the scene of the Transfiguration. We are in a spiritual battle ; the forces of evil are in this world, and even Jesus was not immune to the attacks. When Jesus spoke to the father, he said “Everything is possible for him who believes.” Yes, his father said, “I believe, help my unbelief. In other words ” I am trying but I ‘m full of doubts. Keller says through Jesus we don’t need perfect righteousness, but repentant helplessness.
The father says “I’m not faithful and am riddled with doubts… but help me. That’s saving faith- faith in Jesus instead of in oneself. You must admit that you are not righteous and that you need help. When you can say that ,you are approaching God to worship. In the scene before this we see Jesus surrounded by God. On the cross he will be forsaken. Why did Jesus put himself through that? He did it for us! He defeated evil on our behalf at the cross. Colossians 2:15 says, He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them..
On the mountain God was strengthening Jesus for his mission! You may know in your head that God loves you and sometimes through the Spirit you can hear God’s statement of unconditional, intimate love. But the key to worship is our repentant helplessness. So let us follow Jesus and listen for the still small voice. You’re my daughter. I would go to infinite depths not to lose you- and I have!
7. Read Mark 9:9-13
A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think?
Jesus tells Peter, James, and John not to tell anyone what they have seen until the Son of Man (Jesus) has risen from the dead. Maybe Jesus didn’t want to shift the focus of all of His disciples at that time…I can only imagine if they would’ve told the others it would be all they wanted to talk about…what did you see…really, Elijah and Moses were there…why didn’t Jesus include the rest of us? For whatever reason, Jesus entrusted these three with what they saw and experienced; they were invited to share this experience with Jesus. I have a feeling Jesus knew before they went up the mountain what was going to happen. He took these three into His confidence. I know He was close to the twelve, but maybe these three in particular were His closest friends. Now I just read Spurgeon’ comments and it makes sense, too. They were given a glimpse of His glory…did it help them understand the crucifixion? I’m not sure. Maybe it was after Jesus was raised that all the puzzle pieces finally started to come together, yet He still spent time with them after He was raised to keep instructing them. I think it’s easy for us, who have the big picture, to think, why didn’t they get it? But how could they? People didn’t come back from the dead, and God had been silent for 400 years before Jesus’ birth, and then, He shows up, literally…Himself, not a prophet. I think keeping that in mind helps me to understand why they questioned and grappled with understanding.
B. John the Baptist had said he was not Elijah – what does Jesus say here? Can you explain the apparent contradiction?
I’m not sure I understand this about Elijah, but the disciples ask Jesus, why do the religious teachers say that Elijah must return first before the Messiah comes? But then Jesus says yes, Elijah is indeed coming first to get everything ready…but the last thing Jesus says is that Elijah has already come, and they chose to abuse him just as the Scriptures predicted. I don’t know…is Jesus saying that the teachers are wrong, that Elijah isn’t coming back from the dead; he already lived and he was mistreated…or is Jesus comparing Himself to Elijah here and He is the one who is being abused just as the Scriptures predicted?
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share here.
Wow, I’m not sure of this either, but I think of how sometimes when I am looking at and experiencing nature, I am so overwhelmed at the beauty and details and intricacy of things He has made, and I think it is His glory on display. Sometimes it’s something big, like a view of trees ablaze with color in the Fall or the vast ocean, but sometimes it’s something small, like there is this tree on a trail that I walk and it’s right at the top of a steep hill, and it’s a huge tree and these big roots are all exposed, like it’s clinging to the hill, or it may be a small bird.
13. Read the last section in Keller’s chapter 10 entitled “A Glimpse of Glory” and share your notes and comments.
I think this last sentence of the chapter says it all…
“When you have pursued God in repentant helplessness, you will have worshipped. And every time you sense his embrace, your soul will shine the slightest bit brighter with his reflected glory, and you will be the slightest bit more ready to face what life has in store for you.”
We need to experience God in worship. This is what happened to the disciples at the Transfiguration.
10. Read Mark 9:14-18
A. Describe the scene that James. John and Peter return to see. Find all the details that must have so distressed the father of the boy.
This kind of reminded me of when Moses was up on the mountain with God and then when he comes down, it was utter chaos going on. They come down and see a large crowd gathered around the other disciples, and some teachers of the law arguing with them. I imagine everyone talking at once. Then the crowd spots Jesus and they all run to surround Him. Jesus asks what is going on, why all this arguing? And then a man steps forward to explain that he had brought his son so that Jesus could heal him. It would’ve been distressing to this father that first, Jesus wasn’t there, and then instead of getting help, everyone starts arguing. And then there’s his boy…in modern terms it sounds as if he had a seizure disorder. He would fall to the ground, foam at the mouth, grind his teeth and become rigid.
B. Why do you think Raphael included this scene in his painting?
Because this scene was happening at the same time as the transfiguration. It’s such a contrast between the heavenly and the earthly, between glory and misery and suffering, between perfection and sinful human nature. It kind of strikes me that Jesus couldn’t stay up on the mountain; He had to go back down and enter into our suffering again.
11. Read Mark 9:19-29
A. Describe the conversation between Jesus and the father (21-24).
Wow, even as the boy is writhing on the ground, Jesus pauses to ask the father for a bit of history. Just like a physician would…asking questions…how long has this been happening? The father replies, since he was a little boy, and then gives more details of some of the episodes, like the evil spirit tries to kill the child by throwing him into a fire. Then, the father asks Jesus to please have mercy on them and to help them, if He can. Jesus asks the father what he means by saying, “If I can?” He says that anything is possible if a person believes. Now this is interesting because Jesus doesn’t say anything is possible “for Me”…”I can do anything”…He kind of serves the ball back to the father…the father is the person who must believe. I love how the father yells out “I do believe, but help me with my unbelief!” He doesn’t try to cover-up his “doubtful faith”….maybe he’s been disappointed before when he tried to get help for his boy, and just before Jesus showed up, clearly nobody was able to help. This is his last chance. It seems like a hopeless situation, and he’s heard about Jesus and His miracles, but does he understand who Jesus really is? He wants to believe, but yet… I love his honesty, and that he also is asking Jesus for a little miracle of his own, to help his own unbelief!
B. What happens next?
More and more people are starting to crowd around, so Jesus takes action. He rebukes the evil spirit and commands him to come out of the boy and to never enter him again. The boy has a really violent seizure and then goes limp, appearing to be dead. People think he’s dead, but then Jesus helps him to get up.
C. What do you learn from this narrative that you could apply to your life?
To talk to Jesus like this father did. Jesus patiently listens, and “asks questions”, wanting me to tell the whole story. I listened to a podcast this week and started to cry, because one of the women said, in talking about the corona virus crisis, “I am afraid”. And then they talked about fear, and how the psalmists tell God they’re afraid, and how God can help us with our fear. But I found the honesty refreshing, because, and I’m not trying to be critical, but I know a few people who are believers and when something bad happens, it’s like they get solemn for about two minutes, and then a giggle and a smile and a Bible promise and all is well. And I find that kind of “not real”. And I don’t see Jesus doing that. He listens, like He listened to Mary and Martha grieving and questioning the death of their brother. It makes me want to talk to Him and even to admit my own unbelief and doubts, and ask Him to help me.
D. Is there a specific area in your life that you could pray as the father did in verse 24? If so, do it here.
I might have to do this privately…I think I’d take up too much space here. One area I have come to recognize is that I have a bit of fear about getting too close to others’ pain. It hurt so much when my nephew died, and when my mom died, and I see it in myself, wanting to not experience that kind of pain again. I had a patient yesterday at work who just sobbed in my lap, literally. And I felt badly for her and I was praying for Him to give me compassion, not because I didn’t have any, but for what her pain was about…it wasn’t something I know by experience, and I thought, how is it that Jesus can enter into all of our suffering and pain and understand as if He had this disease, or He has experienced exactly the same thing?
If anyone wants to listen, Anita Lustrea’s Faith Conversations podcast from this week…her guest was Michelle Van Loon, and they talked about the current situation with the coronavirus, about fear and some spiritual practices that can help at this time. I highly recommend it! Even if you don’t subscribe to her podcast, I believe that if you go to her website, http://www.anitalustrea.com, you can find the link to listen there.
7. Read Mark 9:9-13
A. What orders did Jesus give them, and why, do you think?
The disciples were told not to speak of it – until after the Resurrection. One reason for this is to avoid jealousy among the disciples (remember, these folks argued over who would be the greatest.) They needed to see his glory before the Crucifixion – but the lessons learned would only be useful afterwards. (Charles Spurgeon)
Jesus basically said, “Don’t tell anyone until I have risen from the dead.” Why? I think Jesus knew that if his followers were told, they would misinterpret what had happened. If, however, Jesus was trying to encourage them by showing them his glory and revealing who he really was, how could keeping quiet help that? Was this glimpse only meant for these three closest disciples because they would be the main leaders of the new church that would be formed after Jesus’ ascension? Did they need special revelation?
8. Has the Lord ever given you a glimpse of His glory? If so, share briefly here.
I was about 9 years old when my eyes first were really opened to Jesus. I was attending a Vacation Bible School and responded to an invitation to repent and come to Jesus. It is like I suddenly understood the good news. I had to walk home afterward by myself because my brother had gone ahead. The trees, hills and the air and everything in nature seemed different somehow as if God was right there speaking his nearness and glory. It was a kiss from the King.
It reminds me of the hymn, “Great is Thy Faithfulness”. “Summer and winter and springtime and harvest … join with all nature in manifold witness to thy great faithfulness, mercy, and love.”
9. Read “The Death of Glory” in Chapter 10 and share your notes and comments.
God enveloped Jesus in his love at the Transfiguration to fortify him for the upcoming crucifixion. The disciples witnessed it to experience worship on a deeper level to strengthen them for their trials ahead when Jesus is arrested and crucified. We all need to experience worship (“foretastes of glory divine”) to strengthen us for life’s trials.
We are all going through a significant trial because of the pandemic – fears, perhaps sickness, maybe even death; and some are going through great risks to help others during this time. May we all experience “worship” to strengthen and nourish us during this difficult time.
Diane–I love hearing this little piece of your story. I can picture you walking home, taking in His beauty in nature, makes me smile to imagine it.
Ah, Lizzy. Thank you. It was one of those moments when God seemed so near. It’s like my eyes were opened. The earth surely does “show his handiwork”.
Our church is doing 15 minute “mini” services every night for 15 days on Facebook live. Singing, praying, being “together.” I really love how this awfulness is playing out for the world; the Italians singing each day, my church members checking in each other, texts, emails, cards in the mail…I am overwhelmed by the sweetness of the resulting the pandemic. Thank You Lord for love. BACK OFF SATAN! 🖐
Nice idea, Laura. Many churches are getting creative in staying in touch.