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Advent 2017: The Prayers of Christmas

This year I got talked into letting my home be on the “Holiday Home Tour” to help a local children’s center.

I protested, “But my home isn’t that grand,

and I don’t go all out decorating at Christmas!”

They persuaded me that was okay — they were interested in different philosophies about Christmas, and mine could be the value of simplicity.

And so I agreed, explaining on the brochure

that simplicity was okay,

for after all,

the King of kings was born in a manger.

That may be just a very good excuse, but honestly,

when you prayerfully consider what matters most,

a lot can go so that He doesn’t get crowded out.

This Advent we’re going to immerse ourselves in the prayers of Christmas:

Elizabeth’s Spirit-led Prophecy over Mary;

Mary’s Magnificat;

Zechariah’s Song;

Simeon’s Dedication and Prophecy;

and on Christmas Eve: The Angels’ Song of Praise!

This will be a fresh way to stay close to the Lord this Advent

and to experience the wisdom & power we need

to be what He calls us to be in this world.

This week we will consider Elizabeth,

the woman God chose to be the mentor of Mary.

 

What I see in Elizabeth is surrender. She faced great pain in her life, surrendered to God’s will, and then, was used so mightily of Him to mentor another woman who would experience trials and sorrow from a most mysterious God.

Mary too, learned to simply surrender.

We’ll look at Elizabeth’s journey and prayer this week.

But first, let me tell you a story.

Last week I had the privilege of speaking to widows in Minneapolis, preparing them for the upcoming holiday season — often a particularly hard time for new widows.The ministry that invited me is called “Widow’s Might,” and its co-founders are David Thielman and Ginger Ewing. David is an endearing man who surrendered to what he could not stop thinking about: widows and their need for help. God prepared him for this calling through pain.

David Thielman: Co-Founder of Widow’s Might

David’s mother and father had eight children and had just moved to a new city when David’s father was diagnosed with lung cancer and was gone in six weeks. David was twenty-three, a brand new Christian, and felt called to help his mother. She was untrained in a career and still had young children at home. David kept making the four and a half hour trip to see her and help her. He saw there was really no ministry out there for widows.

Years later his younger sister lost her husband suddenly, and again turned to David. Again, David was pierced with the need of some kind of ministry for widows.

As David drove me from the airport to my hotel, I questioned him on how God led him into this. He said, “I began to wake up every day thinking about what the Scripture said about caring for widows — and why wasn’t anyone doing anything? I couldn’t stop thinking about it — it was the clothes I was wearing.”

I smiled, suspecting what happened next.

He smiled back. “Yes, God impressed on my heart: ‘Why not you?'”

So one morning David got on his knees and surrendered. When he told his wife she was surprised yet supportive. David kept asking God for a plan, but it wasn’t until two years later when he was at a meeting with Ginger Ewing that the pieces began to fall together. Ginger was a financial planner and just “happened” to mention that a large percentage of her clients were widows. David leaned over and said, “We need to talk.”

Ginger Ewing, Co-Founder of Widow’s Might

Together they mapped out a plan for bringing  widows together to help each other, and to be inspired by speakers who had walked that lonely road. David told me that sometimes the local church may not be supportive of a leading you have, but if you just do it, you’ll be surprised at how many from the invisible Church will come alongside.

I’ve heard the same kind of thinking from my friend Linda concerning prison ministry. When we surrender to God’s nudging, and just do it, He will provide, if not from the local church, from the invisible Church.

Oh what can happen when we simply surrender to God!

 

Sunday:

1. What stands out to you from the above and why?

2. God promises to give us wisdom when we ask. Sometime today ask Him for wisdom on how you will approach this Advent. Then share what He shows you. 

3. Share a time when your surrendered to God’s nudging and what happened as a result.

Monday-Tuesday: The Background Story

4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?

5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?

6. How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?

Others in Scripture, when faced with barrenness, resorted to polygamy. But Elizabeth and Zechariah chose to surrender to God. I believe that led to their great calling to be the parents to John the Baptist and mentors to Mary.

 

 

7. We will study Zechariah more carefully when we look at his prayer, but for now, briefly summarize what happened in Luke 1:8-23.

8. In Luke 1:24-25 what does Elizabeth do (and why, do you think) and how does her heart respond?

 

9. We will look at Mary more carefully next week, but summarize what happens in Luke 1:26-38. 

10. Read Luke 1:39-40

A. Check a Bible map to see how far Mary walked or rode a donkey.

B. What do you think propelled her?

C. What do you think her thoughts were? 

 

Wednesday-Friday: The Prophetic Prayer of Elizabeth

My friend Vicki, who says  is a “prodigal daughter” who came home a few years ago, is thrilled at the discoveries she is now making in Scripture. Raised Catholic, she often said the “Hail Mary,” which begins, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.” Vicki was delighted to find this was a God-given prayer of Elizabeth!

Watch this and then comment on if you think it matches Scripture or not.

10. What did you like or not like in the above?

 

11. Read Luke 1:41-45 (Elizabeth’s prophetic prayer)

A. What happened to Elizabeth when she heard Mary’s greeting? Significance?

B. How did she know Mary was pregnant with the Messiah?

C. How do you think hearing this made Mary feel and why?

D. What does this tell you about God?

E. What does Elizabeth say in verse 43? 

 

Had Elizabeth not been surrendered to God, she could have been jealous of Mary. For she was just carrying John the Baptist, and Mary was carrying the Messiah. But it is my theory that surrender leads to experiencing the love and presence of God, so you can rejoice and not begrudge the blessings God bestows upon on another. Miss Potter is one of my favorite movies — a true story. Beatrix Potter and her friend Millie had decided to be old maids together for life, when Millie’s brother proposes to Beatrix. Watch this scene.

12. What comments do you have on the above? If a sister in Christ is greatly blessed in a field in which you excel or desire to excel, can you rejoice with her? Why or why not?

 

13. Can you think of a time when your surrendered to God, and then experienced His presence, or joy, or unfolding plan? If so share. 

 

14. Remembering that Elizabeth’s prayer was a prophecy given to her by God, what was God saying to Mary in Elizabeth’s closing sentence? And what does this say to you?

 

15. When Mary appeared at Elizabeth’s door, do you think Elizabeth sensed a calling from God? If so, why and what?

 

16. How do you respond to interruptions?

 

Saturday

17. What is your take-a-way and why?

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  1. The advent focus stood out to me, sparking hope of feeling the presence of the Lord at this time of year that I wish I could just skip. I need to look to the Lord, not focusing on me. I can sure can make excuses. Thanks for doing what you do Dee, for feeding us so well.

     
    That a founder of the widows ministry was a man also stood out to me. What a sweet story, I am so pleased to know of the ministry. Walking with my sister in law this past year since losing my brother has awakened my sympathy for widows in a new way.

    Surrender also stood out to me. I know something of this, it displays not my greatness of spirit, but rather the Lord holding onto me while I beat him up, trying to find another way, until I came to the end of myself and I gave up resisting.

      1. Oh Dee-I love what you just said to Chris!! True!

    1. Oh Chris- I wish I could hug you..and just hang out with you. He is so with you. You DO know something of surrender: “Surrender also stood out to me. I know something of this, it displays not my greatness of spirit, but rather the Lord holding onto me while I beat him up, trying to find another way, until I came to the end of myself and I gave up resisting.”- This so resonates with many of us here I am sure.

      I love the picture of Jesus holding onto you while you beat him up showing it isn’t your greatness of spirit but His ravenous pursuit of you-His Love melting you to yielding and submitting to Him and then you hiding in His presence as He comforts and teaches you.  A contrite and humble spirit is so dear to Him Chris, and that kind of heart He has given you.

    2. Chris, you continue to point me to the One who loves us so! Thank you!

  2. 1. What stands out to you from the above and why?

    I am thrilled that they are going into Dee’s house for the Holiday Home Tour to help a local children’s center for God will show Himself through this to their readers. Just even what Dee said is powerful. I hope they put this and more of her thoughts in it! That simplicity is okay “for after all, the King of kings was born in a manger…when you prayerfully consider what matters most, a lot can go so He doesn’t get crowded out.” 

    Also, David and Ginger from Widow’s Might and how God is comforting and helping widows through this ministry. Dee is right, David is a dear dear man. 🙂

     

      1. Dee- His heart was so precious as I heard his voice on the phone-he was so tender and it was evident he cared deeply for the widows wanting to be sure everything was done well for them and for you.  SO like Jesus.

  3. 1. What stands out to you from the above and why?

    I think your Advent lessons are always my favorite. Well, I love Easter too. But reading this morning I felt a wave of calm settle my soul. Like my heart went from having ripples from the wind to still waters, clear and glass-like. Especially now, I feel so many demands, and many are important, but it’s also helping me “trim the fat” (is that the phrase?!) and focus on what matters most.

    I so love the focus here–“when you prayerfully consider what matters most,a lot can go so that He doesn’t get crowded out”. Only when I do not crowd Him out, am I able to hear those gentle nudges. And then surrender–the example of Elizabeth, and of David Thielman, what a tender man, and of course Linda. Reminders of how God loves to be our supply, in abundance, when we surrender and trust. In His great kindness, He allows me to experience more of His generosity when I surrender and trust Him.  But to surrender, I must first hear Him and be near Him, pray…and for that, I must guard against “crowding Him out”.

    1. love the ripple to still waters. Yes, Lizzy-praying He will not be crowded out in our lives.

  4. Lizzy, so good-made the ripples in my heart calm just now:  “Reminders of how God loves to be our supply, in abundance, when we surrender and trust. In His great kindness, He allows me to experience more of His generosity when I surrender and trust Him.  But to surrender, I must first hear Him and be near Him, pray…and for that, I must guard against “crowding Him out”.

  5. I remember a sermon from Matt Chandler, where he spoke of having to restrain his young daughter at the hospital while they did a procedure. At the end he said “ sometimes the Father Just has to hold us down “ Just like He held Chris as she worked through her pain and heartache. I love the image so much , how He won’t let go as we surrender it all over to Him.

    I think it was Luis Palou that likened divorced woman to widows in this day . Because of the brokenness of marriage that many struggle alone . We  tried to be attentive and helpful  to a young mom and her four children as she went through this . God is Father to the fatherless and Husband to the husbandless.

    That He is Generous and abundant in His supply , what a precious reminder, that He continually holds out to me every thing that I need . If only I’ll let go of what I’m clinging to and receive it.

    1. Sue, I have a few friends who are recently divorced. Thank you for the reminder.

  6. I thought I’d share my friend, Karen’s story. I didn’t know her then but when she was 27 years old she gave birth to triplets close to 2 months early. While the babies were still in the hospital her young husband had a sore throat that they treated him with antibiotics. When that didn’t work further testing was done and they found a cancerous tumor around his cardioid artery. They did chemo and radiation but he kept getting worse . Throughout that year of mostly being in the hospital, he would tell Karen, if my testimony that God is still good through all of this can bring one person to seeking Jesus then it will be worth it . She would laugh to herself and think “ that’s all well and good but I’m going to be here all alone with 3 babies “

    Jim died when the babies were one . Karen said as she walked away from the hospital room she had an overwhelming sense of peace and an assurance that God would provide for her.

    Her church rallied around her and she said that there were always gifts of money in her mailbox. And childcare as she went back to work. After 8 years she remarried a widower from her church.

    She says sometimes she would cry and pray “ please God could they all just sleep all night 🙂 And there were people that took advantage of her situation . It wasn’t always easy but Her faith that God takes care of us was and is unshakable.because she saw Him show up for her .

  7. Twenty two years ago I walked into an Applebee’s restaurant with my 61 year old husband, and 30 minutes later I followed the ambulance to the ER as a widow when his massive heart attack ushered him into God’s presence.  It was a shock, the beginning of many questions and cries to the Lord, and finally peace and surrender.  God’s sovereignty has become more real in my life through these years as I understand completely that there are no mistakes or second causes in God’s plan.  He never wastes our pain, and through this God has given me a special love and oneness with a number of widows He has brought into my life as I’ve shared my story. I’ve been aware how many of us are silent and unseen in many churches, where family and couples are the majority of the congregation, and many activities are centered on them, while those who are alone are hungering for a hug and have a need to be included.  I’m looking forward to more studies this coming month.

    1. Maureen, I am glad you are here with us. My Mom is a widow and she once told me that it was hard to fit into the church after Dad passed away. She has been a widow now for almost 30 years.

    2. Welcome Maureen, I so love your story-how invisible widows can be at church- along with single and divorced women, and what really stood out to me was the “need” to be included and hugged. Something as simple as a hug is such a need. So good.

  8. What stood out to you?

    Honestly, Christmas is a hard time of year for me and I am not sure even why! I love the Christmas story and all the Christ-centered part of it, but I struggle with the trappings of our culture and the expectations of spending – feeling inadequate. I love Dee’s courage in showing her “simple” home at Christmas. We so need to be single-minded, focusing on Jesus – not all the things of the world.

    Also, I have begun to ponder and feel strangely drawn to the idea of those who also struggle at Christmas – the widows and widowers, the singles, the divorced. I follow Tullian Tchividjian (probably misspelled) on Facebook. He was a well-known pastor, author and speaker who “fell” a few years ago and is now divorced, not living with his children and no longer pastoring. He has started posting again occasionally on Facebook but from a broken and contrite perspective. He mentioned the church he attends having a “Broken Christmas” service for those struggling with Christmas. The idea pulls at my heart strings. There are so many who feel inadequate at this time of year. But how do I minister to them? How can we help? The “Widow’s Might” sounds like one answer. I’m intrigued to find out more.

    1. Diane, I resonate with your anxieties at this time of year. I dislike buying presents just because it is time to do so. I struggle with the expectations and the expense and the stress. I would like to bless people for real but often feel at a loss for how that should look or be accomplished.

  9. Look forward to this study and to focus my heart on the meaning of Christmas. As a newly divorced woman and someone who is seeking to love my non-Christian recently widowed mom, this will be a helpful study.

    1. Welcome, Lori!

    2. Welcome Lori!

    3. Lori , praying for you and your mom . That her heart would be softened towards the LORD. Praying she’ll see the beauty of Christmas, of God’s great gift to us . Praying for you as you navigate this new season . So glad you’re here !

  10. This is my first time to do one of your online studies. This study seems to be what I need in my life at this time.

    1. Anita, you will find sweet fellowship here-welcome!

    2. Anita, Karen and Lori-Welcome! We are so glad to have you join us! :))

    3. Hi Anita!

  11. Would like to follow this especially through Advent. Thank you .

    1. Welcome, karen!

    2. Hello Karen 🙂

  12. 1. What stands out to you from the above and why?

     

    The idea that David felt compelled to help widows touched my heart (made me cry). My mom was widowed at 48 years young, with two teenagers and a young adult. My siblings are 8 and 6 years older than I am. I was 13 when my dad died. No one helped my mom. In fact, I was just thinking about her difficult time in life as she got older, this morning. Th first half of her life seemed sweet; college, marriage, kids. When dad died, her life was so much harder. She worked sun up to sun down. She had to declare bankruptcy as dad owned a business and she had no means to continue his passion; she has her own career. She alway managed to go to church and teach Sunday school though. Mom never complained and died a pauper 4 years ago. I miss her terribly sometimes. She was a good friend to me. No one loves you like your mom.

    1. Laura–love this tribute to your Mom. She sounds pretty amazing–and a lot like you. : )

    2. Laura, thanks for sharing your Mom’s story. She has passed on her tenacity to you. 🙂

    3. Wow Laura, what an amazing woman your mom was and I agree with Bing that she passed her tenacity on to you. Love you.

    4. “I miss her terribly sometimes. She was a good friend to me. No one loves you like your mom.” Oh Laura, I understand. You shared so much here about your mom, we felt like we knew her, too. I remember when you and your daughter drove all the way to Georgia (?) to see her, and didn’t you decorate Christmas cookies with her? You loved her well.

  13. What stands out to me in the above is how Elizabeth who was barren was chosen by God to be the mother of John the Baptist so her close relationship with Mary could show Mary that “all is possible with God” and that she need not fear because God would show her through Elizabeth what she might expect in this unknown event in her life.  I just love this story more and more as I grow older.

    I am to approach Advent with more attention to the scriptures this year and to persevere towards more discipline in this study.

     

    1. Welcome Charmaine!

  14. Welcome to all the new faces! So great to have you joining us!

  15. Sunday:
    1.   What stands out to you from the above and why?
    Quite a few things have stood out for me:
    a.     Dee offering her home though it was not “grand” yet the very fact that it was not “grand” but just “simple’ made the cut J and all for a very worthwhile cause. I sensed a quiet and very relaxing atmosphere in the pictures and hoped that those who tour felt the holy presence of God.
    b.     A reminder for me of what surrender means in the life of Elizabeth and Mary
    c.     David and Ginger-their complementary gifting created a partnership for a ministry that is God led and blessed.
    2.   God promises to give us wisdom when we ask. Sometime today ask Him for wisdom on how you will approach this Advent. Then share what He shows you. 
    I want to stay close to Jesus and not be hindered by the glitter and materialism of the world. And on a very personal note, I have been wanting a special word for 2018 and I was being torn between “legacy” and “wisdom”. I have been leaning more towards wisdom and when I saw the word here, (after seeing it a few times before now), I felt God’s nudge to pray for wisdom not only for 2018 but starting now with how to approach Advent!
    3.   Share a time when your surrendered to God’s nudging and what happened as a result.
     
    See answer to #2. As a result, I feel God’s peace about my special word for 2018. This word will also be a springboard for me to do an in depth study on wisdom from the Bible.

  16. 1.  What stood out….to surrender and do whatever God is calling you to do. It may take years to really happen, but God wants to be the one in control of everything, including the timing. So often I think that if I surrender, then it should lead immediately to moving ahead. But that would be my way. My family frequently point out that I am not great at waiting. God, however, is not impulsive. Sometimes I think He starts working on me well ahead of time just because He knows how hard it is to get me going. If I consistently responded quickly, maybe I wouldn’t have to wait as much. But considering Abraham, that probably isn’t true.

     

    2.  Praying about approaching Advent this year. I got a one word answer. Seeking. There is, of course, lots of seeking in the Christmas story. And I see a lot of application for me. Helping a college student seek meaning in a holiday filled with pain and empty of close people. Seeking for the words for our Christmas letter to show our faith and invite others to join that journey. And seeking for the simplicity you spoke of, Dee, and the joy the Biblical narrative is so full of.

     

  17. 2. God promises to give us wisdom when we ask. Sometime today ask Him for wisdom on how you will approach this Advent. Then share what He shows you. 

    Reading from Scripture every evening like we used to do as the boys were growing up. So loved those tender times.  🙂 Praying about a few other things on my heart but will share later as He leads.

  18. 5.  Elizabeth was blameless and barren. To the people of her time and culture, those words didn’t mesh. To be barren was a curse, a judgment or statement that you were lacking before God. To be blameless meant you should have God’s favor and blessings. They included but we’re not limited to children.

     

    6.  Elizabeth continued to be faithful in trial by observing the law and waiting on God. She had learned to live with the whispers and looks, and not react to them. Mary was about to start a life of facing whispers and looks. She needed someone who had been there and made it through, someone who could impart wisdom and support to her.

  19. 1. What stands out to you from the above and why?

    The word  “unconditional” surrender from the Oswald Chambers quote.  Not just giving up or giving in but unconditionally taking hands completely off.  A willingness to accept whatever will be.  

     

     

     

  20. 2. God promises to give us wisdom when we ask. Sometime today ask Him for wisdom on how you will approach this Advent. Then share what He shows you.  
    Having just come off of 10 days of family and house guests I didn’t get back to the blog here until this morning. Pleasantly surprised by the many new names and faces  that have joined  I add my “Welcome!” to each of you. 

    Will think more and  pray about how to approach Advent this year.  I love the Christmas Season and how Jesus shines through in spite of the World and all the trappings. He just simply cannot be hidden or shut out. If you have a watchful eye at all It seems to me that Jesus shows up in unassuming and humble places.  Just like His first coming.  

     
    3. Share a time when your surrendered to God’s nudging and what happened as a result.
    My 93 year old mother was visiting in my home this past weekend. On Saturday afternoon everyone else was off doing things and usually I just keep myself busy too but Mom was sitting at the table and I felt I should just sit down and give her some time and talk one on one. She is extremely hard of hearing and so misses most conversations but face to face she can read lips and without background noise she can converse quite well.  Mom has a very clear mind and reads a lot.  As we talked about some books we read and about some of the truths of God’s Word.  I was reminded how knowledgeable Mom is about God’s Word and I was very blessed by our special time of sharing some personal things as well. 

    1. Bev–my eyes filled when I read this “and usually I just keep myself busy too but Mom was sitting at the table and I felt I should just sit down and give her some time”–this is exactly what I feel He is nudging me towards. My nature is to stay busy, I thrive (or thought I did) on productivity–but He keeps whispering to me that He wants me to slow down and be still, seeing the needs of others. Your 93 year old Mom, for me is my 11 year old son who is needed extra attention these days, but the lesson is the same–He is changing my priorities, my heart.

  21. 2. God promises to give us wisdom when we ask. Sometime today ask Him for wisdom on how you will approach this Advent. Then share what He shows you.  

    Dee’s post is one of a few things God has used recently to whisper the same thing to me–“slow down, and sit with Me”.  When Dee recently talked about grandmothers, and I remembered mine–a woman who loved to pray, and was always happy to have you just come sit with her. She was an introvert and I felt she understood me better than anyone in my family. As I thought about her that week, I sensed a hunger for that “sitting still-ness” about her. As busy and full as my life has become with my new son’s medical needs, one of the things I can count on every 3 weeks is a full day at the hospital where we just sit. And I have surprised myself by loving it! I don’t bother with my cell phone, I bring books, my journal..and in that moment I can be still because I know there is nowhere more important to be or to do. The only other times I have felt that were with my Mimi, and at Dee’s. Sorry to get so wordy here and I’m not sure I’m making any sense!, but what I hear Him saying is to slow down, sit with Him, focus on the only thing that really matters.

    We have a tradition I started a few years ago–an small tree with a verse to read and ornament to add each day of December. I also just bought a new family devotion of daily Scripture and thoughtful questions. But I put out less decorations (inspired by Dee on that!) and I already feel more peace. I just read this article “I’m Dreaming of a Shame-Free Christmas” that echoed my thoughts about focusing on the only One who matters, and not allowing guilt over “doing less” steal my joy of being with Him.

    1. Lizzy , I’m going to share your tree and verse idea with my granddaughters. I think it would be a wonderful new tradition.

  22. 3. Share a time when your surrendered to God’s nudging and what happened as a result.

    Really hard NOT to say our most recent adoption here, but I’ve talked about that enough! : D

    4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?

    She was from the daughters of Aaron. Her husband, Zechariah, was a priest in the regiment of Abijah. She was righteous before God. She walked blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord. She was barren and older.

  23. 5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?

    Well, this isn’t very theological, and I know I’m looking a little too much through my own lens, but as one who has never been able to give birth, I love this testimony that she was called “blameless” in her barren state. Oh the countless hours, years, I blamed myself or thought I must have done something wrong to cause my state (until God so graciously revealed my husband’s infertility as well). Thinking too of Job, called “blameless and upright” by God, even though his “friends tried to look at his actions as a cause for his trials. Thankful for how God gives these examples of allowing people to suffer even when they have done nothing specifically wrong to “deserve” the suffering. And I know this verse isn’t part of the passage, but I love how Elisabeth says (v.25) “Thus the Lord has done for me in the days when he looked on me, to take away my reproach among people.” We so easily condemn one another when God has not. I love this picture of His redemption–making all things new, taken her broken womb and restoring it…His generous grace. A reminder that we must listen to what He says is true about us, not the enemy’s lies.

    1. Lizzy, your words are such a breath of fresh air to me. My blame game (blaming myself …  which unhappily sometimes ends up grumping at and about others) kicks into high gear at this time of year. I feel so “not enough”. I so want to end those destructive lies that condemn my heart. Thank you for pointing out that Job was called “blameless and upright” by God. I was just reading Habakkuk this morning and thinking that I ought to read and ponder Job next as one who suffered under God’s mysterious dealings and was blamed by his friends for his losses.

      And thanks for the link to the article “I’m Dreaming of a Shame Free Christmas”. Well said. I too need to slow down, breathe and listen to God first, and go simple this year.

      1. Diane–thank you for your encouraging words, when I felt like such a jumbled mess! I’m stopping right now to pray for you dear friend. So thankful for you.

    2. Lizzy,

      I really appreciate all your comments.  Your seeing  this passage about Elizabeth through your own lens gives it richer and deeper meaning.  Your comment “We so easily condemn one another when God has not.” is very insightful.   A reminder of our wonderful Lord and as you said His generous grace.  Thanks for all your thoughts. 

    3. Your post brought tears Elizabeth, I especially loved this:

      “We so easily condemn one another when God has not. I love this picture of His redemption–making all things new, taken her broken womb and restoring it…His generous grace. A reminder that we must listen to what He says is true about us, not the enemy’s lies.”

    4. This resonates with me as well, sweet friend.  And I like that Mary and Elizabeth had such a great relationship, Biblically, learning truth from each other,  and so do we. 😀

  24. Lizzy, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the blameless and barren words. I feel very similarly with you and will post my answer later.

  25. Monday-Tuesday: The Background Story
    1.   What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?
    That she and Zechariah were both descendants of Aaron (priests). They were old in years; righteous before God. Elizabeth was barren or childless.
    2.   Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?
    In biblical times, barrenness can cause shame and others to think that the barren one is being punished for some sin. There wasn’t any mention of them being ostracized.  Zechariah and Elizabeth must have had exemplary lives. And though she was barren, nothing was said about them looking for a surrogate. They seem to just have a sense of acceptance on their part that that was their calling. And I got to thinking, just because somebody is barren doesn’t mean they are not blessed! I have a few friends who are single and they are the most blessed and happy people! No husband and no children.
    3.   How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?
     
    Elizabeth knew what it is to experience a miracle and when Mary visited, she had no doubt about the miracle in the latter’s womb either!

  26. So many newbies here! Welcome to our wonderful blog “sphere.” Dee is an incredible teacher; you will learn a lot!

  27. 4. Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron , advanced in years and barren. She was walking blamelessly in all the commandments

    5. Challenge Question : What can you read between the lines , or learn theologically about these 2 ” b” words that describe Elizabeth : blameless & barren ?

    In Elizabeth’s time for her to be barren would have been seen as a punishment for sin. Luke is quick to describe both her and Zechariah as blameless and walking with God so there is no question as to whether they were walking with the Lord.

    6. How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?  It’s never stated that Elizabeth thought she would have have a child before the angel told Zechariah. She would have prayed and trusted that the Lord would provide when she was in child bearing years but she hasn’t been for awhile. So she prayed and hoped for a miracle and never received one. But she still trusted the LORD and walked in His statues even though she never got what she wanted from God , she loved and worshipped God , not what He could give her. All the years she trusted God because He was God and worthy of trust , not because of prayers that were answered in the way she wanted them to be answered. Just that God’s thoughts were not her thoughts and His ways were higher.

  28. Having a rough time getting myself together this week. Very behind on everything including the blog 🙁

    4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?

    She is old, never had children, righteous, followed all of God’s commandments, a daughter of Aaron, married to Zechariah (a priest), and lived during Herod’s time.
    5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?
     

    Sounds like Jesus to me…

     
    6. How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?
    She took Mary in even though Mary was in a precarious situation. She trusted that God was in control and she should be a support to Mary in this time. She knew these things because of her own life; the fact that she was also pregnant (and witnessed her husband’s “stricken-ness”) at such an old age.

    1. Laura, I like your answer to 5. The challenge question.

      “Sounds like Jesus”

       

      1. 😉

      2. I liked that too Laura!

  29. 4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7? 
    She was the wife of Zechariah who was a priest and she was a daughter of the priesthood from the line of Aaron who was Moses’s brother and the first high priest.  I have never thought about that before as to the significance of who she was in the Jewish Community.  Her infertility would have been very hard because of Jewish views on being barren. But I love it that God makes a point in his Word there in verse 6 that she and Zechariah were both righteous before Him and lived blameless lives.  There was nothing in their lives to accuse them of living in sin and causing their infertility as their culture would have thought.  Nevertheless at this time she had been barren and now was beyond child bearing age and too old to have children.  

     

    5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?

    I guess I already read between the lines in my answer above. (-: 

     
    6. How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?
    Elizabeth knew first hand God had done a miracle letting her become pregnant and having a child so the miracle of Mary being a virgin and pregnant with a child would have made her very understanding and supportive.  Also she had lived her life being misunderstood in the Jewish culture’s view on barreness so she could support Mary in the judgement and misunderstanding surrounding her pregnancy.  

    As I think back in my own life I thank God for a particular godly praying woman who supported me through some hard times of  judging and misunderstanding in my own life.   

     

  30. 4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?

    Elizabeth was a descendant of Aaron, she followed the Lord, keeping close and walking “blamelessly”. She was married to a godly man, a priest, they were both advanced in age and had no children, Elizabeth was barren. It stood out to me that the blame and shame of barrenness seemed to fall automatically on the woman.

    5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?

    The first thing that came to me was that she must have kept her heart from bitterness regarding her lack of children. 

     
    6. How might Elizabeth’s trust in trial have prepared her to be a mentor to Mary?

    Doubtless Elizabeth had wrestled with her barrenness and come to a place of trust and surrender to the will of God. A good thing that she longed for that she had opened her hand from, after wrestling, learning to trust, coming to believe that the Lord loved her and had not forgotten her.

    She had made herself the right size before the Lord. This would have helped, her trust would help quiet Mary’s heart too.

  31. 7. We will study Zechariah more carefully when we look at his prayer, but for now, briefly summarize what happened in Luke 1:8-23. 
    Zechariah was carrying out his duties in the temple as a priest when an angel appeared to him.  The angel informed him his prayer asking for a son had been heard and would be answered. The angel gave him specific instructions about naming his son, the affect his birth would have on everyone,  how his son should live, and the powerful  ministry God had ordained for him.  Zechariah’s logical mind questioned how this could happen and he voiced that to Gabriel the angel who  reminded him of Who he was a messenger for.  As a reminder to Zechariah that he lacked faith in the word of God and this good news brought to him by Gabriel he would not be able to speak until God’s promise was fulfilled.  The people were beginning to wonder why Zechariah wasn’t coming out of the temple and when he did he could not talk to them so they knew he’d had some special vision.  When he finished his time of service in the temple he went home to Elizabeth. 

    Lots of great thoughts associated with this passage but I need to learn to simplify and summarize better. (-:

     
    8. In Luke 1:24-25 what does Elizabeth do (and why, do you think) and how does her heart respond? 
    She went into seclusion for five months but I have no idea why.  I guess I assumed it was a cultural practice but I never thought about why. It seems to contradict her praise for what God has done for her in taking away her reproach among people.  She now in their minds had God’s approval.  But as I think about it she had a lot to process and unlike Zechariah, a logical man (I say with tongue in cheek) she  probably needed to be alone with her emotions and the magnitude of what was happening to her and to Zechariah.  She was in awe of her God Who had done this wonderful thing and was giving her a place of very high honor.  I think she demonstrates wisdom and maturity in getting alone and quiet because she knew it wasn’t about her but it was all about God.  Hmmnh?

  32. 7.  Zechariah gets visited by the angel Gabriel, who tells him about the son they are about to have, who will be a forerunner to the Messiah. Vs 17, “in the spirit and the power of Elijah”. But Zechariah doesn’t believe and gets struck dumb.

     

    8.  Elizabeth becomes pregnant and stayed in seclusion for five months. Maybe she had miscarried in the past and was being very careful to rest and stay off her feet.  Maybe she was spending concentrated time with the Lord about the unique child on the way. In any case, she responded by giving God credit, praise and thanks.

     

    9.  Gabriel visits Mary and gives her the news both for herself and about Elizabeth. Mary accepts it all in faith.

  33. 7. We will study Zechariah more carefully when we look at his prayer, but for now, briefly summarize what happened in Luke 1:8-23.

     

    Zechariah was chosen to go into the temple to pray and burn incense on behalf of the people, directly to God. While he was in the temple an angel visited him explaining that he and Elizabeth would have a child. He questioned the angel due to their old age (especially Elizabeth’s), but the angel described the child’s life completely, under the authority of God himself. The angel told Zechariah that he should name the child John, and since he didn’t believe, he would be mute until he was born.

  34. I joined one of Dee’s online Bible studies awhile back.  I said hi and never posted.  Today I’m joining again, but only posting on #10, (because I hadn’t thought about Mary’s trip before).  Thank you, everyone, for your encouraging insights and meaningful stories of your personal experiences with God’s grace.  I look forward to learning more about Jesus with you.

    10.

    a. It looks like Mary traveled 80-100 miles to Elizabeth’s house.  No mention of traveling companions.  I think Mary is the first person to have an intimate, personal relationship with Jesus and His presence within her enabled and compelled her to take a very dangerous journey.  This is what He has done for me.

    b. Mary grew up watching Elizabeth’s pain and rejection, so it’s easy to see her sensitive love and respect for Elizabeth in her eagerness to rejoice in a wonderful reversal for her long-suffering friend.  But all the while, He builds His plan in Mary.   It’s just like Jesus to take what is considered “a wasted life” and use it in beautiful, unexpected ways to bless the whole world.  I really love the way he works out his plans.

    c.My thoughts on the trip would have been back and forth between laughing at myself for the brazen foolishness of the trip as a solitary, vulnerable young girl (with a lot of fearful thoughts–journey-related AND pregnancy/marriage-related) and absolute joy for Elizabeth.  Mary believed God, but I think I would have wondered if all that stuff the angel said is really true.  For me, going to Elizabeth’s house would be necessary to confirm my faith in God’s plan for me.  It’s almost too much to take in without an external confirmation of God’s true goodness—He’s not exactly helping Mary’s personal narrative with a premarital pregnancy.  I think Mary was getting a taste of what she might find herself doing for the rest of her life:  pondering/storing things in her heart and reminding herself of God’s wonderful ways.

     

     

    1. Welcome Karen, I would like to encourage you to keep posting, we are bolstered by one another, I would like to here more of what the Lord has done for you 🙂

  35. 7. We will study Zechariah more carefully when we look at his prayer, but for now, briefly summarize what happened in Luke 1:8-23. 

    My KJV is using this spelling – Zacharias

    According to the custom of priesthood his lot fell to Zacharias to serve in the temple. Gabriel appears to him and gives him the word of the LORD that Elizabeth will conceive , not only that But that their son will be great in the sight of the LORD. That he would be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb. Which tells me that Zacharias was familiar with the Holy Spirit.

    Zacharias doubts what Gabriel has told , Gabriel sounds a bit incredulous that he would be doubted!! He proceeds to tell him that he will be mute until the child is born.

    8. In Luke 1:24-25 what does Elizabeth do (and why, do you think) and how does her heart respond?

    She conceives and hid herself 5 months saying “Thus the LORD has dealt with me, in the days when He looked on me , to take away my reproach among people. She is Praising God . ”

    I wonder if Zacharias was able to convey to Elizabeth everything that Gabriel had said ? Maybe he wrote it down and a trusted friend read it to Elizabeth ? I’m assuming she doesn’t read because of the times.  I would want to just sit with the great thing that GOD had done for me on my own and savor it , so maybe that is why she went into seclusion.

    I tried to find something on the customs for pregnant women then but nothing really popped up.

     9. We will look at Mary more carefully next week, but summarize what happens in Luke 1:26-38. 

    An angel appears to Mary and tells her that she will become pregnant with the long awaited Messiah.  And Mary believes …. Mary does not doubt , she just wonders how this can be.

    The angel tells her that Elizabeth is also pregnant !

    I found it interesting that verse 29 says ” when she saw him she was troubled at his saying and considered what manner of greeting this was. She was troubled at what he said not the fact that there is an angel in front of her ??
    10. Read Luke 1:39-40
    A. Check a Bible map to see how far Mary walked or rode a donkey. About 80 miles
    B. What do you think propelled her? The news of Elizabeths miraculous pregnancy. Mary was also having a miraculous pregnancy and felt sure that Elizabeth would understand. 
    C. What do you think her thoughts were? 
    I think Mary was raised to watch and believe for this day so when it came she didn’t struggle with the hows and the whys. I’m not sure if that’s correct but I’ve heard that the stories of the OT were told over and over in Jewish families. That they were always watching for the Messiah. Like Anna in the temple. Mary probably thought about everything she had been told in the past and wondered how God would work out her future for her and her baby. 

  36. Welcome to all our newbies!

    Sunday: what stood out to me was : “Oh what can happen when we simply surrender to God!”  Also the word Advent. I looked it up & was excited to read “the coming or appearance of someone notable, or an important event.” I thought,  “Well Jesus is as important as they get!” He came to us in God’s perfect time. I want to be looking with fresh eyes for Him this Advent; to behold Him, my Savior God breaking into my life & my world, & dawning upon me again. I want to intentionally “make room in my heart” for Him, waiting & looking for Him, worshiping Him. I want to reject all the lies of condemnation & shame, & just receive His love & gift of grace & kindness…to be FREE in Him & rejoice in His Goodness. To be filled with His Peace….& to be His vessel, to be surrendered.

  37. 8. In Luke 1:24-25 what does Elizabeth do (and why, do you think) and how does her heart respond? 
     

    Elizabeth secluded herself for 5 months. Not sure why although if I was as old as she was and just pregnant for the first time, I would be embarrassed. Also, she may have just not wanted to be “that” woman; as a side show. Maybe she wasnted to take the time to pray?

     

    She is grateful that God finally gave her a baby since during those times not having one was (according to men) a stigma or punishment from God.

    9. We will look at Mary more carefully next week, but summarize what happens in Luke 1:26-38.  
     

    Mary was visited by the angel Gabriel. He told her that she was in good standing with God and He wanted her to birth His Son. At first she was scared, but Gabriel explained that she should not be afraid; God loved her and needed her help. Gabriel told her that God could do anything (even the impossible) when she didn’t understand how she would have the child. He told her that she should name the child Jesus and the child would be very special since he was God’s Son. Mary loved God and agreed that she was His servant and would do anything He asked her to do.

     

  38. Hmmm,  it just dawned on me that I am a “old” mother to two babies; well past the age of bearing children, just like Elizabeth. Lol!

    1. Oh, Laura. Love your sense of humor! But you’re right. It must have been very difficult for Elizabeth to be running after a toddler at her age! I’m so glad that God enables and strengthens us to do what he calls us to do as we lean fully on Him.

    2. 🙂

  39. 7. We will study Zechariah more carefully when we look at his prayer, but for now, briefly summarize what happened in Luke 1:8-23.

     
    While serving in the temple, an angel appear to tell Zechariah that he and Elizabeth will have a son named John who will prepare the hearts of people for the coming of the Lord.
    Zechariah doubts the message and is made mute. When his time of service is finished he goes home to Elizabeth.

  40. 8. In Luke 1:24-25 what does Elizabeth do (and why, do you think) and how does her heart respond?

     
    She keeps herself hidden for 5 months. I imagine she wanted to be sure that she really was pregnant at first and then perhaps that she wouldn’t lose the baby. Or perhaps she didn’t want to be the object of gossip?
    Or perhaps she was having a sweet time with the Lord as he had given her a deep desire of her heart. Or maybe all of the above, we are complicated creatures 🙂

  41. 9. We will look at Mary more carefully next week, but summarize what happens in Luke 1:26-38.

     
    Mary, a virgin, was betrothed to Joseph. She is listed by an angel, she is afraid. He reassures her that she is favored by God, and that she will conceive and carry Jesus, the Messiah. She asks how this will happen and is told that she will conceive supernaturally and that Elizabeth is pregnant, Mary accepts the word and the will of God.

  42. A. Check a Bible map to see how far Mary walked or rode a donkey.

    80 to 100 miles

    B. What do you think propelled her?

    I imagine she needed to confide in Elizabeth, she needed to talk to someone who wouldn’t think she was crazy.

     
    C. What do you think her thoughts were?

    I think we want to imagine biblical figures to be less human than we are. She had an enemy just like we do. I am guessing that her thoughts and emotions went in many directions, from unbelief to worship, from fear to great hope. Being chosen by God to be the mother of Christ was an honor, being a pregnant virgin in that day would have also been a monstrously difficult burden to bear.

  43. 4. What do you know about Elizabeth from Luke 1:5-7?
    Elizabeth was born from one of the daughters in the line of Aaron. Elizabeth and her husband Zacharias both loved and walked closely with God. Elizabeth was barren, blameless and they were both advanced in age. Wow..I just thought how much their situation was like Abraham and Sarah who were also barren, yet Elizabeth’s response was different.
    5. Challenge Question: What can you read between the lines, or learn theologically about these two”b” words that describe Elizabeth: blameless & barren?
    Going off of how Chris answered which really helped me with this question-that she kept herself from a bitter heart by keeping herself close to God-by trusting who He is-because she was so familiar with His word and His faithfulness from a long life of trust and obedience. She didn’t give in to the lies of the evil one-and you know he had to be attacking her even though God doesn’t tell us it happened.

  44. 9. We will look at Mary more carefully next week, but summarize what happens in Luke 1:26-38.  
    Mary a virgin was visited by Gabriel the same angel who spoke to Zechariah  in the temple and told her she would conceive and bear a son and to name Him Jesus.  And he identified that He would be the Messiah by the things he said about Him. Gabriel also told her  about Elizabeth being pregnant with a son.  Mary believed what Gabriel had told her and submitted to God’s plan for her life  

     
    10. Read Luke 1:39-40
    A. Check a Bible map to see how far Mary walked or rode a donkey. 
    80-100 miles

     I think it is unlikely Mary traveled that distance alone.  For the fact of safety it was a more common practice to travel with a caravan of some type.  Possibly someone she was acquainted with traveling that way on business.  

     
    B. What do you think propelled her? 
    She obviously had a close personal relationship with Elizabeth who was an older woman in her life that she would have loved and respected.  What was happening to her and to Elizabeth  was miraculous and like we women are she needed  to talk.  But not just to anyone.  Rather to someone she felt would understand and she trusted.  
    C. What do you think her thoughts were? 
    Her thoughts had to be all over the place.  Being from a solid Jewish family Mary would have known well the prophecies of the coming Messiah.  She lived in a culture that was eagerly awaiting His coming.  I’ve read that it was every young Jewish girl’s dream to be the mother of the Messiah.  I would think to realize you had been chosen would have been overwhelming but like Chris said above the very real humanity of her situation would have been hard.  She was engaged so what would Joseph do?  Friends and family would naturally be skeptical and I’m sure judgmental.  There had to be hundreds of questions in her mind as to how all of it was going to work out.   

     

  45. Watch this and then comment on if you think it matches Scripture or not.

    It didn’t include Mary’s greeting to Elizabeth because the scripture reads it was when Elizabeth heard that greeting the baby in her womb leaped. Also when she spoke  to Mary it was with a loud cry which says to me ot was full of emotion.  

     

    10.  What did you like or not like in the above?

    It felt a little bit too formal in it’s presentation.  I think even too subdued for what Jewish culture is like.  Also I thought the setting was impersonal with all the other people around. I have always pictured their meeting as an intimate encounter inside of  Elizabeth’s home. I could have seen Zechariah as being there but not just as a causal observer. The presence of the Holy Spirit was powerful in that place at that time with both women.  

     

  46. 11.  There is so much Scripture doesn’t tell us. I’ve always envisioned the meeting between Mary and Elizabeth being private, not in front of a dozen others. You asked for reactions to the clip. It is hard for me to see people bow down to Mary, and for them to tweak Scripture, even if it is just a little. Satan also tweaked just a little.

     

    12.  What a sacrifice of love from Millie to Beatrix! Because she was sure to have some sorrow at “being left alone”. But she was bigger than that. Can I rejoice with another? In my experience, the act of rejoicing with someone helps it become true inside of me, then I really do rejoice with them. Just like Corrie TenBoom finding forgiveness for a guard when she took his hand in forgiveness. We take the initial step, and God more than meets us. But it is a sacrifice, a surrender of what we want and how we feel.

  47. 10. What did you like or not like in the above?

    I think it followed Scripture , it could be that there were no other women around , it doesn’t say in Scripture that there was. It was most likely just done for the movie.

    Mary does say

      For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;49 

    Two weeks ago I volunteered at a sale at an old Abbey that was parting with some amazing Catholic art. The Mary / Madonna paintings and statues were exquisite ! But we’re not suppose to have any idols so I don’t think God meant for Mary to be worshipped or prayed to in any way, She was blessed to do what God asked her to do as we are blessed to do what God asks us to do.

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    10. What did you like or not like in the above?

    I liked the view of the mountainous wilderness in the immediate opening scene.

    I didn’t like everything else.  Elizabeth’s lilting voice and clipped vowels made her seem like a patronizing aristocrat. She appeared too young.  Mary was probably appropriately-aged, but she seemed like a wide-eyed simpleton.  This girl just traveled 80 miles alone—she’s no idiot!  Her clothes were pretty clean, too.

    Mary’s praise made me cringe.  It was so superficial and stilted.

    The whole thing was too dramatic, too forced, too clean, too Western, too fake.

    (feeling critical now—this would be a really hard scene to act for anyone. It was an interesting glimpse of a possible interpretation. )

    11. Read Luke 1:41-45 (Elizabeth’s prophetic prayer)

    A. What happened to Elizabeth when she heard Mary’s greeting? Significance?

    Her unborn baby leaped in her womb.  This is significant because John the Baptist recognized the Messiah without any observable sensory connection to Him in fulfillment of Scripture.  “he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb” Lk. 1:15

    B. How did she know Mary was pregnant with the Messiah?

    The Holy Spirit must have communicated the message to Elizabeth when He filled her.

    C. How do you think hearing this made Mary feel and why?

    God’s gracious and powerfully-good reality rushed in.  Her fears/worries about pregnancy, any concerns about her own sanity, and doubts about God’s goodness would have been instantly replaced with joy and gratitude.  She would have been humbled and honored to be the chosen one. Excited and in awe!

    D. What does this tell you about God?

    God cares about my fears and worries.

    God sees all the darkness in me (even the junk I think about Him) and wants to heal every part.

    God keeps His promises.

    My heart matters to God.

    God can use people to show me His amazing grace.

    God loves surprises.

    God particularly enjoys making special, elaborate, and unexpected plans to reveal Himself to me.

    E. What does Elizabeth say in verse 43? 

    “And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”

  49. 10. What did you like or not like in the above?

    I liked Olivia Hussey, the actress who played Mary, I loved her in Romeo and Juliet. I think she is really talented.
    I often struggle a bit with dramatic reenactments of biblical stories. I would have a really hard time participating in one for fear of adding or detracting something from the story. That said watching it did move me emotionally, hearing the words aloud made me think more about the women who spoke them.

     
     Like others have mentioned, I always imagined the two of them being alone. I doubt that random onlookers would have grasped what was happening to these women. I also thought Mary must have verbally expressed emotion when she first saw Elizabeth, when then the baby leapt inside her, that was absent from this dramatization.