I STILL REMEMBER STEVE’S CRY IN THE DELIVERY ROOM:
“GOD GAVE US A GIRL — AND SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE ME!”
INDEED, WE SENSED GOD’S KINDNESS TO US.
I HAD ASKED GOD (UNLESS HE HAD A BETTER IDEA) FOR A DAUGHTER,
WHO WOULD BE LIKE HER DAD.
GOD KNEW, EVEN THEN, THAT HE WOULD CALL STEVE HOME EARLY,
BUT HE WOULD LEAVE, IN KINDNESS, THE ONE SO LIKE HIM.
WHEN THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN NONE OF US HAD ANY IDEA OF THE STORM AHEAD.
BUT THEN STEVE WAS DIAGNOSED.
FOURTH STAGE CANCER.
THERE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN A MORE FRIGHTENING DIAGNOSIS.
GOD IS OUR REFUGE AND STRENGTH
A VERY PRESENT HELP IN TROUBLE,
THEREFORE WE WILL NOT FEAR THOUGH THE EARTH GIVES WAY,
THOUGH THE MOUNTAINS BE MOVED
INTO THE HEART OF THE SEA,
THOUGH THE MOUNTAINS TREMBLE AT THE SWELLING.
(PSALM 46:1-3)
MARTIN LUTHER’S “A MIGHTY FORTRESS IS OUR GOD” WAS INSPIRED BY THIS GREAT PSALM.
WHEN HIS FRIEND, PHILIP MELANCHTHON, WOULD BE OVERCOME WITH FEAR
THAT THE CHURCH MIGHT BE OVERCOME, OR THAT THEY MIGHT BE MARTYRED,
LUTHER WOULD SAY, “COME PHILIP, LET’S SING THE 46TH.”
WHEN WE WERE OVERCOME WITH FEAR AFTER STEVE’S DIAGNOSIS,
STEVE ASKED SALLY TO SING “THE 46TH.”
I RECORDED WHAT HAPPENED IN MY PRAYER JOURNAL,
AND IN THE GOD OF ALL COMFORT.
Sunday, August 17
Two weeks after Steve’s diagnosis
Sally sang “A Mighty Fortress” in church this morning. Annie and Beth on one side of Steve, pressed into him, me on the other. John in the pew behind with his hand on Steve’s shoulder. Sally sang it as a fighting song — I’d never heard it sung that way — I don’t think I’d ever really understood it before. I’ve heard it sung majestically, but never with righteous anger. Yet, it seemed so right. It is a call to battle against Satan and all the spiritual workers of darkness. Sally kept shaking her fist at Satan, at the “prince of darkness grim,” at the one armed with “cruel hate,” and the one who must “not this battle win.” Each verse grew stronger, and our hearts found courage for the fight ahead. But when Sally got to the phrase, “let goods and kindred go, this mortal life also,” she looked at Steve and faltered. It was too much for her and stopped, paralyzed with grief. Suddenly, and I will never in all my life forget this — Judy (the pianist) began to sing, then the congregation rose — standing in the gap for us, finishing Sally’s song for her. They are with us.
WE ARE NOT ALONE
GOD IS WITH US, A VERY PRESENT HELP IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. He is with us through His Spirit, and He is with us through His Word, and He is with us through His Body. Indeed — do we not have this here on this Bible study blog? I ask at the top of the website — “Is it really possible to experience God in a place like this?” And yes, we are finding it is. His Spirit flows through us, a mighty river whose streams make glad the people of the Lord.
There is a river whose streams make
glad the city of God,
the holy habitation of the Most High,
God is in the midst of her; she shall not
be moved.
- Katsushita Hokusai, 19TH CENTURY JAPANESE ARTIST
These Psalms of the Sons of Korah (42-49) have inspired such great hymns, but this one, Psalm 46, has inspired ones the Church around the world has come to love. We will sing them this week throughout our study. Psalm 46 has also inspired great sermons, and it was so hard to choose, but I finally chose an excellent exposition from an Australian Presbyterian pastor.
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SUNDAY ICEBREAKER:
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Monday-Wednesday Bible Study:
Sing or listen to this with “your heart and your mind” as we are exhorted, and pray as you do — in praise, in petition, and in trust. These are anointed words and I am going to ask for your reflections afterwards.
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now?
CREATION IN TUMULT
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid?
Prepare your heart for Psalm 46:4 with this song, again, singing or listening with your mind and heart.
http://youtu.be/x3_E-UasJ1I
4. What reflections do you have on the above hymn?
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean?
POLITICAL KINGDOMS IN TUMULT
6. Read Psalm 46:6-9
A. What images are in this passage?
B. Verses 3 and 6 are a chiasm. In the ESV, for example, you could draw a circle around “roar” in verse 3, and around “rage” in verse 6 and draw a line. Then, draw a circle around “tremble” in verse 3, and around “totter” in verse 6 and draw a line. What point do you think God is making with these similarities?
C. David Jackman points out that verse 8 calls us to look at the desolations of the earth through the tumult of both creation and its peoples and “behold the works of the Lord.” This is surprising. Contemplate and share your thoughts.
7. Watch the first four minutes and 17 seconds of Video 6 in The Idol Lies series by going to this page — then share your thoughts. http://deebrestin.com/idol-lies/
8. Read the rest of Psalm 46 and find an image of hope in the midst of the tumult. What is it and why does it speak to you?
9. Think about the Exodus and how it showed God’s power over creation and over political kingdoms.
10. Watch this and then comment:
Thursday-Friday Sermon
Listen to David Jackman of Australia on Psalm 46 and share your comments.
Saturday:
11. What is your take-a-way and why?
297 comments
Thank you for your prayers for my speaking this week –an especially busy week with two retreats and a sermon — so I am behind on reading your comments from last week, but I will. The retreats went well, especially this weekend, with such a hungry receptive crowd. Still floating at what God did.
Dee-what did God do?!?!?? Your floating..tell us! :)))))
I may have to devote a blog post to it!
Please do share…:)
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I am moved by Steve and Sally’s picture and once again by Steve’s passionate heart for God when he proclaimed God gave us a girl and she looks like me! He is adoring God. I am also especially moved by the scene when Sally sang A Mighty Fortress. I can’t imagine the pain, and when she got to that part and looked at Steve and fell apart. Like her insides went limp along with Dee’s, Johns and the family yet God came swiftly to comfort them through the body as they finished the song. Beautiful scene.
Similarly to Rebecca, what largely stands out to me is the story of Sally singing A Mighty Fortress…such a sense of “fight” against the powers of darkness in Sally’s rendition (e.g., shaking her fist at Satan, righteous anger)..an excellent, fitting, courageous manner of singing this hymn in light of the circumstances. What courage Sally exhibited…not only courage to sing the hymn, but even greater courage to know that she could not go on when reaching “let goods and kindred go, this mortal life also,” …and then to have the congregation pick up where she had left off…what a warm, supportive, loving embrace those members provided. Such a lovely, heart-touching story on so many levels.
The other thing that caught my attention was the tsunami wave off of Kanagawa, Japan picture. I know that a tsunami is super powerful and deadly, but I see a beauty in this picture…beauty in the waves arching, the boats skimming along, and the mountain in the distance. I am going to contemplate further on this picture…it really drew my attention.
Psalm 46:1-3 is such comforting text…it brings to mind Though the Mountains May Fall
Refrain Though the mountains may fall and the hills turn to dust, yet the love of the Lord will stand as a shelter for all who will call on his name. Sing the praise and the glory of God.
1. Could the Lord ever leave you? Could the Lord forget his love? Though a mother forsake her child, he will not abandon you.
2. Should you turn and forsake him, he will gently call your name. Should you wander away from him, he will always take you back.
3. Go to him when you’re weary; he will give you eagle’s wings. You will run, never tire, for your God will be your strength.
4. As he swore to your fathers, when the flood destroyed the land, he will never forsake you; he will swear to you again.
I remember singing this frequently…it is a favorite of mine.
Nanci, beautiful lyrics… Thank you for sharing this morning. I do see the beauty in the wave, too.
Nanci,
Thank you for sharing this hymn!
Nanci — I didn’t know that song — but the lyrics are wonderful. If you have a good link for us to hear it, give it to us.
Here is a link… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnGnGBlBc1k
Thanks for the link to the song “Though the Mountains May Fall”. Lovely lyrics, and tune. It is new to me.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? Oh definitely the story of Sally singing A Mighty Fortress and the whole congregation rising in support when she could not go on. That is a great picture of how the body of Christ SHOULD function! I love it! And I also could not help but to immediately recall that we sung that song at my brother’s funeral. He had not left any specific funeral instructions but my mom remembered that he really liked Martin Luther so that (and the hymn “When we All Get to Heaven”) were two that she chose. I’m looking forward to getting into this study.
Such a good song for a funeral — esp. for one taken young…
Mary, I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m very close with my brothers and couldn’t imagine losing then or to see the pain my mother would carried if she lost any of us. It’s not a coincidence that this weeks study had elements that resembled your loss. I really feel lead to say God sees, He loves you and your family. God Bless you this week!!
Nicole, thank you so much. My brother died a little over 3 years ago, at age 37, from a heart condition he had since birth (major defect called transposition of the great vessels.) I am the middle between an older brother (still living) and that younger one who died and he was not just my brother but really a dear friend so I do miss him terribly. I’m so grateful this life is not all there is!
Amen!!
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? photo of Sally and Steve: he’s got the same grip on her that he had on Annie in another photo:) — and the story of Sally singing A Mighty Fortress, family surrounding Steve and congregation joining in when Sally was unable to continue singing. This is so powerful — also reminded me that I’d like to reread The God of All Comfort within the next few months. (though I have a little bit of an association of reading that in preparation to experience loss — and not sure that I want to prepare for another loss. Sounds/feels superstitious, but…)
When I read this earlier on my cell phone, I was intrigued by the Japanese art. Will look more closely later (maybe on my cell phone again!). I see the volcano in the background and remember of postcard I had of Mt Saint Helens with the Bible verse “Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace…” The photo was taken before it blew (and on a related note: I haven’t flown out of here since pre- 9/11. Museum inspections reminded me that the world has changed so I guess I’d better finish packing and get to airport!
Also, when I was scrolling down, I saw “Like a River Glorious” and that’s been running through my brain for the last hour.
Praying for your safe travels, Renee…:)
Thanks! Done with first step …at gate:)
Love how you noticed “the same grip” Renee. That moved my heart.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? He is a very present help in trouble. Before this last year I would not have known this personally but now I do and it stirs my heart to know I can lean on Him and feel His presence. Also, definitely the story of Sally singing and the church family standing in the gap (tears). This is beautiful but it is also hard for me to read. I long for family church. I long to belong to a body of believers but being a family that comes and goes this will not likely happen for me anytime soon. I know that the Lord has His path for us for us and I am trusting that but I do long for that fellowship that is a taste of heaven here on earth. (I was a part of a family church for four years before and it was beautiful which I think adds to my longing because it is so hard to find a church with good preaching and family-type congregation.)
Jill,
Though you may be a family, as you said, that “comes and goes”, I hope you will know that that doesn’t mean that you can’t/won’t have significant friendships in the body of Christ in your “short” stays. One of our most treasured friendships as a married couple was with a physician that came to our little town in Powell, Wyoming. He was only there for two years, but our families became fast friends, and we have remained friends for all of the 24 years since then. (Sadly, their story reminds me of Dee and Steve’s…. our Dr. friend died of cancer several years ago. His wife and I remain good friends, even across the miles.) All this to say, take heart Jill. God can send a true friend at an unexpected moment.
Hi Jill, I just wanted to point out something Dee said this week “GOD IS WITH US, A VERY PRESENT HELP IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. He is with us through His Spirit, and He is with us through His Word, and He is with us through His Body. Indeed — do we not have this here on this Bible study blog? I ask at the top of the website — “Is it really possible to experience God in a place like this?” And yes, we are finding it is. His Spirit flows through us, a mighty river whose streams make glad the people of the Lord.” Praise God I found this blog because I’m running low on fellowship also. This blog is a form of fellowship and is really keeping me going. I know you have young children and that can contribute to having a hard time making friends. At church I’m herding children, I can’t talk to anyone. Then finding someone you can trust to sit your kids while going out can be difficult to. So you will be in my prayers and please pray for me also. 🙂
Thank you for your encouragement, ladies. I trust Him and He has been teaching me about friendship and what gifts He gives me on this path He has called us to. Thank you for your prayers, you are both in mine as well.
1. As always Dee…it is hard to PICK one thing that stands out. Your introductions week by week are just that on target for me. A couple of things. Sally’s singing of “A Mighty Fortress”….and of course the body of Christ, led by the Spirit filled pianist! As we get further along in our walk with Christ, I think we can look back and see a precious few moments that are standout moments. They truly melt our souls as those times when heaven meets earth so very visibly…..and we are standing on holy ground. I think it’s good and right that we memorialize those moments – a journal, a song……a painting?……as they cause us to bow in worship to the One who is our life. For in Him we live and move and have our being……as the Scriptures teach us. The only thing I wish is this….oh, how I wish I could hear Steve’s perspective on that holy experience with the body of Christ. Remember that old song “Heaven Came Down and Glory Filled My Soul”? I’m thinking it must have been some shade of that for him.
Another standout paragraph to me is the one under the heading “We Are Not Alone”. I am so glad that you included the question that is at the top of the study blog….”Is it really possible to experience God in a place like this?”. Every week I try to pause and reflect on that question. Thank God, it IS possible!! Your walk with God as Steve died from colon cancer brings me back to this time of year in 1988….when my mom was dying of colon cancer…..and walking with Jesus moment by moment. Incredible. Holy moments. And even now I am walking with my beloved daughter through late stage ovarian cancer…..and she doesn’t know Him. Yet somehow Jesus infuses our moments with His presence….and I have hope in Him.
Jackie,
You are indeed going through a huge storm! Yet you are thinking of others. Truly His mark. 🙂
THANK YOU Rebecca! It does seem that the Lord has brought Dee so many little sheep who are facing heartbreaking storms…..and I would include you very solidly in that group, Rebecca. And as I’ve told you more than once….how I would love to “beam you up” to Maryland and have you sit with some young moms I know and pour some of the wisdom God has given you in the storms into their lives! 🙂
Jackie, I would love that too. 🙂 Those young moms are blessed to have you in their life that is for sure. :)))
Still praying for your sweet daughter, Jackie. I cannot even imagine what it would be like to watch one of your kids go through late stage cancer. God has truly used all that you have been through (and are going through) to create in you tremendous insight into Who He is…and it is a blessing to all who know you, sweet sister.
Oh Lord, how we cry out to you for Jackie’s daughter to be drawn to You, to long for You. Please strengthen Jackie and give her a sense of Your presence and wisdom for what to say or not to say and to do. Surround this family, O Lord.
Jackie–praying again now, for the Lord to heal your sweet Jes–in body and in her heart–Lord, that she may know the depths of Your love for her!
Oh Jackie, God Bless you my prayers are with you and with your daughter. This weeks Psalm is a powerful Psalm for you. We both were thinking about what Dee said and how God is using this blog in a powerful way. A couple weeks ago I shared about my son and I could literally feel the prayers you and other ladies where lifting up for me. I pray that this week you will feel my prayer and the prayers of the others who are lifting you up.
Thank you Nicole…..as I continue to pray for you and your son as well……..love that you added a photo recently too!
Oh I always cry at this part of the story! When Sally, full of emotion, could not sing the words–and the Body, surrounds with song. But then, at his funeral, she sings again–and does sing through–knowing Steve did not lose. He fought the battle well, he fought to glorify God in his suffering, and did. He did not “confide in his own strength”
I so love the 2nd verse of Psalm 46 “a very present help in trouble.”–I love the emphasis, the “very” before “present”. He is. Steve’s life is a beautiful example. And I know sometimes it’s harder to see in our own lives, especially when the “trouble” feels magnified, but His Word reminds us, He IS here, our refuge, our strength. And would you believe, we are singing “A Mighty Fortress” at Church this morning?!Now I’m sure to cry! 😉
Elizabeth I love how you remembered that about Sally at his funeral! 🙂
I love your heart — so compassionate for others.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
The picture of Sally and Steve! What joyous faces! what bright smiles! I love it!
The old hymns are really meaningful to me. As I have mentioned before, my dad was a musician and died when I was 13. Dad was choir director at our church, which he helped to build as well. I remember meeting at our local elementary school and then enjoying the “new” building with my family. Dad always picked lovely music for the choir to sing and hymns were what the congregation sang…..no contemporary music back then. I kind of got sad when contemporary came into the picture, however I do believe today’s contemporary music is beautiful. It reflects the bible so nicely; scripture is written all throughout the music and I do enjoy those newer songs now.
When I went for my moms funeral the floodgates of memories opened up and oh! what joy I had remembering the past. The same organist played for my moms funeral. The organ was different; my dad’s had been struck by lightning years ago. I was SO blessed by the funeral, weird, huh?
Back to to the hymns……some of the words are so old fashioned that I still have to look them up….a “bulwark?” Love how they still teach us.
Funerals do bring comfort — or should — and the memory of them as well. So glad that is true for you. I remember that time for you on this blog, Laura.
Good Morning Blog Sisters ~
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Oh….. Dee, thank you for telling this story. Loved hearing how Luther would encourage his friend when tidal waves of fear would come. (love how we do some of that here on this blog). The heart-rending, but beautiful story of Sally singing “A Mighty Fortress” and how the pianist and congregation finished it. (When my own sweet daughters sang at my mama’s funeral four years ago this month, my Annie couldn’t continue…… her sister sang on through tears.) All of this being such a reminder that we need each other.
Reminds me of a chapter in Ken Gire’s book “The North Face of God” that likens our journey here to climbing a treacherous mountainside and the need to be tied to trusted friends….. because when a storm hits the mountain, we can become entirely disoriented. Trusted friends can literally keep us from falling off the mountain…… speaking or doing encouragement (sometimes its not even in the words, though words are powerful.) This idea of needing each other also reminds me of a section in Carol Kent’s Book “When I Lay My Issac Down: Unshakable Faith in Unthinkable Circumstances”, where she likens this with the idea of being stretcher-bearers for one another…… in those times when we just need someone to carry us to Jesus. There were times when my husband did that for me after our baby girl died.
I agree with Jackie: Another standout paragraph to me is the one under the heading “We Are Not Alone”. I am so glad that you included the question that is at the top of the study blog….”Is it really possible to experience God in a place like this?”
Great picture of us tied together climbing the mountain…
Nila…..you always have such good book recommendations. I’ve written down others you’ve mentioned…..but getting Sacred Sorrow first!
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
I’m with others who say it is hard to pick out just one highlight but I do love the quote of Luther trying to encourage his frightened friend by saying, “Let’s sing the 46th”. And that is what we here on the blog are going to do this week and encourage each other together, and experience God in this blog for which I am so grateful.
But I can’t leave out the lovely picture of Steve and Sally. They do look so much alike. When you see her, she must remind you of him so often. What a gift!
I often think of those words too, “Let’s sing the 46th!”
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1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
Hello, I am new to posting here, but I would like to thank you Dee for your transparency in sharing God’s grace with everyone. What stood out to me was how powerful your daughter sang the song against the powers of darkness, and when she “faltered” the church picked right up again. It speaks to how strongly we depend on each other in the church to endure the powers of darkness. It also gives testimony to the powerful fortress that God’s Sovereignty can become in our lives when we trust and rely on him rather than our own abilities and power to control our lives. God’s Sovereignty reigns in the lives and hearts of Christians everywhere. It protects, nurtures, grows, challenges, strengthens, and guides the Church through the power of the Holy Spirit. God’s Sovereignty becomes our mighty fortress because, in the end, heaven and earth can pass away but God still with reign. Amen and Hallelujah.
Mechelle — welcome! So very glad to have you here. You will find a great group here.
Welcome Mechelle–great to have you here! This is so good “the powerful fortress that God’s Sovereignty can become in our lives when we trust and rely on him”
Glad you have joined us! Welcome!
Mechelle,
So glad you have joined us here…..a powerful first post reminding me of God’s sovereignty – thank you!
Greetings, Mechelle…welcome to Dee’s bible study blog family…:)
Welcome, Mechelle! So glad you have joined us 🙂
Hi Mechelle,
Thank you for such an encouraging post. Welcome.
Welcome dear Mechelle!
Welcome, Mechelle…..Hope you’ll join us often!
Welcome Mechelle. I am fairly new too. Amen to trusting and relying on the Lord instead of ourselves. I like your bold print. So easy to read:)
Oh my, I am overwhelmed as I read and see the picture of Sally and Steve.
A godly father is so special. I had one, too, and lost him also. Sadly my time with him was short.
God is our refuge and strength. What a fitting story to accompany this psalm. I praise God that he is our refuge and our strength and that we will someday be in his presence along with our loved ones. I wish I knew just how I am like my father. The physical resemblance is not similar, however, my son does resemble him- what a blessing for that. I have many stories of him and his own letters and he loved God very much and was a man of integrity as Steve.
Thanks, Dee, for sharing these precious memories that are so painful in your loss.
You do identify, Shirley. Thanks for sharing.
What an incredible story of Sally singing, then faltering and the congregation came alongside by singing it. Very moving.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why? I opened my computer after having just had a good cry, so reading the introduction and the description of Sally’s song and especially, the congregational response made the tears overflow once again. That kind of spontaneous outpouring is something so rare and beautiful. There’s far too much on my heart right now to record, but I am very assured that God has brought us to Psalm 46 at just the right time for me. I have a lot weighing me down that I need to begin to overcome….(or to bear as He wills)… in the coming days. I so need to be girded with the assurance that ‘the 46th’ holds.
Father, please comfort Wanda as she faces hard times. May she sense Your presence and love.
I’m praying in agreement with this, Wanda! And for many specifics for you as well, sweet sister.
praying for you Wanda~
Hi Wanda, I was reading all the posts and saying to myself where’s Wanda? I found you!! I just wanted you to know want a blessing you are to this blog. How encouraging and uplifting you are. Thank you for praying for me and for commenting on my posts. Your words bless me so much. I will be praying for you this week,
Matthew 11:28-29; Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, For I am gentle an lowly in heart, and you will find rest for you soul.
Thank you all SO much for your prayers and your kind words. ‘a place like this’ (in Dee’s words) makes SO much difference in my day….many times over. “Thank you, Lord, for this group of honest, caring friends who encourage and lift me up.”
Wanda – seeing how burdened you are makes my heart heavy for you too…..lifting you to our Father this morning. “Let’s sing the 46th!”
Standing with you in prayer, dear Wanda.
Adding my prayers to all the others… You are such a sweet spirit, Wanda, and so treasured here. God bless you today as you continue forth!
Feeling so much more hopeful today…and physically have felt better too. I think it is the difference that prayer makes and I am gratefeful. At the end of the week, a couple dr. appts. should help me sort things out.
Dee,
The conference presented at (First Free Church in Onalaska) this weekend was truly anointed! God’s presence was clearly evident with the sweet and tender aroma His fragrance brought. It permeated our souls and filled our hearts with every breath breathed in song and praise. It was undeniable. God fed the spiritually hungry with His word and drenched the spiritually thirsty with His presence….though nary enough to quench the pangs of desire for more of HIM; my cup truly did runneth over. His love, mercy and forgiveness rained down upon my parched soul and left me perfectly drenched, and soaking in HIS LOVE. What more could one ask for? He restores my soul. He moves my spirit. He completes me. I love HIm and He loves me!
I was blessed with that for which I prayed beforehand…revelation, knowledge and truth…which Christ provided me in abundance; through your words Dee. Thank you so very much for always reminding us that our Lord, our Savior, Jesus Christ….. loves us. loves us. loves us.
Many blessings,
Carolyn
Oh Carolyn,
This brought me to tears. I felt, as I suspect I would before I even came because of the stirrings of the water I had seen happening, that He would be so present, and He was. In everything — and yes, the women’s hearts were so thirty and ready to soak up His Word, and indeed, I am confident it will not return void. Such an exciting body you are part of and I thank You for allowing me to be part of it. Thanks for coming on the blog! 🙂
Carolyn–thank you SO much for coming here and sharing this powerful testimony! So encouraging to hear directly from you, how God answered prayers and how He used Dee to bring the replenishing Word to you all last weekend. Blessings!
Carolyn – what a gift for you to come on the blog and share such a testimony about the weekend with Dee! And oh, the things you shared could only come from the Spirit – to God be the glory! 🙂
Seeing you are from Onalaska made me a little homesick too…..I grew up in Wisconsin….and the UW-Lacrosse is where I went to college…..anyway, welcome to the blog!
Carolyn, Thanks for sharing this wonderful update with us. I’m so thankful for Dee’s ministry.
Dee, Did you talk on the Song of Songs?
I did and they were so receptive!
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Welcome new sister Carolyn!
Truly lovely, Carolyn…our Lord IS incredible; so glad that you were blessed and so glad that you shared those blessings here on the blog with us all. Welcome to you, Carolyn!
Carolyn what a beautiful testimony. I can sense your excitement of all the Lord did there. Makes me want to go:) Welcome here
Joyce shared on facebook about how the Lord has brought her help for Kendra through her son and his girlfriend–it is a beautiful story for any who may have missed it–and I thought so fitting for this week also–He IS our very present help!
Thank you Elizabeth….yes..I know some are not on fb…like Susan (miss you here Susan) and miss so much there..especially our request for prayers.
1. I agree with so many ladies on the blog what a beautiful image of the Sally singing, the pianist joining and the whole rest of the Church lifting up their voices in Worship. Telling the enemy we will stand and know who our GOD is. The story reminded me of Exodus 17:11 “So it came about when Moses held his hand up, that Israel prevailed, and when he let his hand down, Amalek prevailed.” Eventually, Moses became weary, and so Aaron and Hur responded by holding up his arms until the Israelites were able to finally defeat the Amalekites.Maybe Steve is gone but Dee and her children have won the battle. Like Job God looked down at that moment and said have you considered my servant Sally and in that moment Sally made God proud bearing HIS image on her. So many have lost and I don’t feel I have experienced enough loss to be a true comfort or understand completely. But my heart is with you all and my prayers. I’m bless by you all and am excited to see what God brings this week through Psalms 46.
….love that comparison to Moses and Aaron and Hur. And the thoughts about God looking down and seeing Sally in that moment.
Great parallel with Moses, Nicole.
The photo of Steve and Sally was very touching! I smiled when I read Renee’s remark about Steve’s grip — I think she is right about that. When I saw the photo, my first thought was “She is so beautiful!” Steve was right — she looks like him — but in a very feminine way!
Also the hymn “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” has been special to me for decades. I first became aware of it, when it was the background (theme) for the 1955 movie, “A Man Called Peter,” which was about Peter Marshall. I was so inspired by that movie, and also developed a love for that hymn all at the same time.
I have that movie, Deanna! I was so moved by Peter Marshall’s sermons when I was in high school ( from the book, Mr. Jones, Meet the Master) that I used one of them for my non-original oration in Speech competition once. I read ‘A Man Called Peter’ back then too. And Catherine Marshall’s ‘Christy’ is one of my all time favorites though I didn’t read it until a decade or so ago. It’s so fun to get to know more about each other 🙂
Deanna & Wanda– we own “A Man Called Peter” on DVD because it’s one of my favorites! (and we have the full series of Christy!) also loved the book of Peter Marshall’s sermons. Fun to share that with you both 🙂
The Christy series with Kellie Martin and Tyne Daly is one of my very favorites too. But the series ends in a cliff hanger because they cancelled the next season! So a friend told me about the other series with Lauren Lee Smith and Dianne Ladd and I have that too…because that one finishes. 🙂 Some of the same characters are in both series. Did you know there is a Christyfest in Tennessee every summer? I read their posts on facebook and have thought about going (wish it weren’t in July. I don’t do heat well!) Okay…..I’ve digressed enough. I’m pretty sure I’m not complying with the rules of focus and being concise here!
I too remember that as background music in that film. I also remember they didn’t sing the whole song in the service (I’m sure because it was a movie and time was of essence) but that is one song you cannot sing the first couple of verses — for you leave it with this world with devil’s filled! 🙂 Thanks for your sweet comments too, Deanna.
I just have to add my own comments about “A Man Called Peter” to Deanna, Wanda and Elizabeth’s comments. I am RE-reading old books from our library and I am currently reading “A Man Called Peter”! I remember being so impressed with his biography and his sermons as a teenager. I also loved the book Christy and have read most of Catherine Marshall’s books.
oh Diane–that makes me smile! I remember now the one on his sermons I read was “Mr. Jones, Meet the Master”. I’d love to send you the DVD if you haven’t seen the movie–it was so good!
I’d love to see the DVD “A Man Called Peter”, Elizabeth. I didn’t even realize until this discussion here that it was made into a movie.:)
I am always excited to see what The Spirit leads you to next each week that I have been here Dee and it is such a blessing to see the Spirit move here. I got behind a bit last week but I am going back as I do NOT want to miss it.
Sally singing the hymn and then having the pianist continue when she could not was my standout.
What a beautiful picture of your daughter and your husband. Thank you for sharing.
This also stood out.
WE ARE NOT ALONE
GOD IS WITH US, A VERY PRESENT HELP IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. He is with us through His Spirit, and He is with us through His Word, and He is with us through His Body. Indeed — do we not have this here on this Bible study blog? I ask at the top of the website — “Is it really possible to experience God in a place like this?” And yes, we are finding it is. His Spirit flows through us, a mighty river whose streams make glad the people of the Lord.
Yes we experience God here!
Dee would love to hear your experience with your retreats. I hope you do a blog post on it
Jackie and Wanda I am praying for you.
Thank you, Liz — I think I will have to. I was moved to have Carolyn come on and share about it. There is nothing like sensing the presence of God with the body of Christ!
Thanks so much for prayers, Liz. I so appreciate that.
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now?
Love the contrasting lines about Jesus being sent as the light and about how the darkness meets us on earth:
For still our ancient foe
Doth seek to work us woe
His craft and power are great
And armed with cruel hate
On earth is not His equal
Did we in our own strength confide?
Our striving would be losing
Were not the right man on our side (Love this line!!)
The man of God’s own choosing. (Love this line!!)
and this…..
And though this world, with devils filled
Should threaten to undo us
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His truth to triumph through us
Jesus stands firm for us against the devil! He is blocking the darkness for us. Thank you Jesus!
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid?
You have me thinking Japanese with the artwork; I think we have looked at these before, right?
These lines bring to mind the Japanese nuclear power plant disaster a few years’ back, as well as the tsunami not long after (I think). I remember the images being awful. The water rushing through the communities ripping them apart Was frightening. The thought of what would potentially be left behind after the melt down of the plant was also scary.
It is difficult to not be afraid. Water is a formidable force of nature (Like the artwork displays). I know we always have God on our side, but it is definitely scary to be up against these earthly woes.
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid?
I’m thinking how some of the tumult of creation could be defined as natural disasters…e.g., volcanoes erupting, hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, tornadoes; but then there are also those that are man made or inspired by the evil one…e.g., unjust wars, environmental disasters (e.g., oil spills), holocausts, genocides, nuclear disasters. All of these are terribly, TERRIBLY frightening to the human senses, but as v. 1 states, “God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble.” Our faithful God is present with us always…He is our provision…he stands with us…He is our defense. What comfort and courage this brings…reminds me of Psalm 27;1, “The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?”
Nanci, loved the Psalm 27:1! Thank you.
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now? The thing that ministers to me most is the acknowledgement of the evil in this world and the power of the devils that fill it and the weakness of our own strength. Knowing how awful “the other side” is and how incapable I am, makes me so much appreciate the bulwark of God even more. One of the beauties of “the 46th” is that it forces us to look at the ability of satan but then proclaims God’s unwavering/unfailing protection. Maybe this is beautiful to me because it forces me to fully accept His gospel, knowing that I cannot “do it” myself I surrender fully to Him and His strength. As a Christian, instead of becoming more anxious or fearful with increasing awareness of the evil in this world and it’s capabilities, I become more convinced of His power and press in closer to be “safer” to rely more and more on Him and less and less on my own failing attempts.
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid? This reminds me of Psalm 11:3 “…When the foundations are being destroyed…” God is our refuge, our safe place. He is our help, He knows best how to help, so we can trust Him regardless of outcome. John 10:28-29 ” I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.”
I just read this Jill. And I appreciate the contrast you emphasized. It IS hard to look at Satan until we are confronted directly with truths like this. I like that image of pressing in where it is safer.
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now?
As I was reflecting on “A Mighty Fortress,” I experienced MANY thought fragments from early in life through this past week. A sampling of the phrases: “the devil, the world, and our own flesh,” perspective and focus (so easy to focus on the foes rather than the Victor), alleviation of human suffering (from a conference speaker this past week). Lord Sabaoth also stood out because I couldn’t remember what it meant! (means Lord of the Armies, Lord of hosts, Lord of all powers on heaven and earth).
What strikes me when the pieces start coming together is that this is an encapsulation of Luther’s theology (which transcends Lutheranism) and a mini-autobiography of his life. Luther used the phrase “the devil, the world and our own flesh” in his explanation of the 3rd and 6th petitions of the Lord’s prayer, though the use of these terms together predates Luther (and I see these in A Mighty Fortress):
Google & Wikipedia told me (without even opening any specific pages of the search) that the devil, the world, and our flesh are often referred to as the unholy Trinity and that sometimes these three are seen in opposition to the Trinity. And the Trinity, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is so evident in the song — don’t even have to dig or think hard 🙂
This is ministering to me right now in that I can see God’s hand on my life — throughout my life (memorized the explanation of the Lord’s prayer in Sunday School!) and also how I’ve been tempted by the devil, the world, and my own flesh. Regardless of the circumstances around or within me, God has prevailed and will prevail. When I focus on the circumstances instead of on Him, I do get derailed and bring despair upon myself. But when I focus on Him, I have hope.
AND THERE’S MORE: This whole hymn is plural, implying the body of Christ. But there seems to be still more: “And though this world, with devils filled, should threaten to undo us, we will not fear, for God hath willed his truth to triumph through us.” God wants his truth to triumph through US; God can work through His Body to impact the world. And this reflection brings me full circle to last week, when I listened to Wanda’s hero speak at a conference 🙂 I can see that Francis Collins’ work on the human genome and as director of NIH is part of God’s truth triumphing through us. Pretty cool and encouraging to get glimpses of life from a higher perspective. I don’t have to understand all of life’s garbage to trust that He is winning the battle right now.
Always love your perspective, Renee.
“Regardless of the circumstances around or within me, God has prevailed and will prevail. When I focus on the circumstances instead of on Him, I do get derailed and bring despair upon myself. But when I focus on Him, I have hope.”
SO true, Renee…and I echo Diane’s comment…:)
Renee….I liked reading Luther’s catechism answers to the Lord’s prayer explanation. I have my catechism book sitting 5 feet from me on a bookshelf, at this moment. You have inspired me to pick it up and read again. And I especially love that you emphasized the plurality of these words. Of course they are…..but I sing them so often and forget. This IS the Church universal…..and yes God works through His body to impact the world. Also reminds me of Bonhoeffer’s strong emphasis on the ecumenicalism of the Church which strongly countered the nationalism in Germany at the time.
As for your reference to the work of Dr. Francis Collins (my hero!) last week. I heartily agree! When we pursue, with integrity and diligence, that which God enables and impassions us to do, it does bring Him honor, which means the Truth triumphs. (He is the way the TRUTH and the life). Great connection!
(For those who don’t know Dr. Francis Collins….here’s the quick explanation. He is the researcher who discovered the gene for cystic fibrosis in 1989. I vividly remember the moment we found out……(pre internet days: our pharmacist told us). We celebrated because our 4 year old daughter, would have the advantage of more specific treatments in the future. I followed Dr. Collins from then on. He mapped the human genome, without private gain, but making it available to all. And he wrote the book, the Language of God, about his experiences in that work, and his reconciliation of faith and science. Dr. Collins is a huge advocate for cystic fibrosis research and even wrote a song about it, which he sometimes sings onstage at conferences . I have only seen this on You Tube, not in person. He is a self described evangelical Christian. It was thrilling when I first heard that the Obama administration appointed him as head of the NIH. And Renee met him last week! And she sent me a ‘selfie’ photo with her and Dr. Collins! I smiled all day after that! )
Wanda….what a neat story. How is your daughter doing?
Quite well…..Joyce. She’ll be 29 in a few weeks. The passing of another year always gives me pause. Most people who see her life would have no idea the hurdles she overcomes….as she also has had type 1 diabetes since age 10. CF and diabetes have not stopped her from hiking mountains, playing varsity soccer, whitewater rafting, rock climbing, biking 150 miles to raise money for MS and working full time. And more. She deals with it on her terms and has figured out ways to exercise and eat really well. She’s had some very, very hard times and a couple of close calls, but she totally amazes me on a regular basis. I hope and pray that the new drugs that are now touted as curative for certain mutations of the gene (there are scores if not hundreds of kinds of mutations)…..will be able to benefit her as well…..sooner, rather than later is my hope. Thanks for asking.
Wanda…your daughter sounds amazing!
I will be praying for her….Happy Birthday to her soon!
Not sure how I missed this. I actually caught your response to Joyce and couldn’t reply. I loved hearing about your daughter, she and I are almost the same age.
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid?
These verses bring to my mind images of great natural disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis. Actually it is difficult to think of anything worse than those events. “When the world falls apart, when the mountains crumble into the center of the sea” (Common English Bible). Yet the psalmist reminds us that God is still in charge and lends us His help and protection.
4. What reflections do you have on the above hymn?
This is my first experience with this hymn, but it certainly has a catchy tune, I think. I will probably go through the day hummiong it now! The important words are “Stayed upon Jehovah.” As long as we are focused on God, all of the tumult will fall into place. So even if the worst were to happen, God can still be trusted and there is no reason to be afraid.
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean?
A river brings refreshment and is life-giving. Vegetation is always more lush near a river. In Jerusalem’s case, it is symbolic of the life-giving power of God that flows through it. It is a gentle river (in contrast to the waters that rage and roar in verse 3). Another way to state it would be to say that the river is the Holy Spirit flowing through God’s people in Jerusalem.
Dee, Thanks for writing the We Are Not Alone paragraph, and thanks to those of you who have emphasized it by referring to it. I’ve been told that I might be substituting this for face-to-face fellowship. And periodically, I wonder about that, too. I started here when I often was unable to get face to face fellowship (and there still are times when I travel etc when I may not get face-to-face fellowship, but not to the extent of before). Because so much of what I do is on the computer anyway, this is the most effective way to reach me with small group (and individual) Bible Study. Plus, this is the most consistent and consistently Biblical study I’ve had. Otherwise it would be a once a week thing for which I may or may not prepare. And I love the fellowship here. The Word is impacting me at a deep level throughout the week, making my heart is so ready for preaching and fellowship on Sundays.
We, our, and us in A Might Fortress are jumping out at me — and I’m not sure what this means or will mean. God has brought stability and healing through these studies; in reality, when I focus on the bad stuff, it’s still pretty bad (and that’s ok; He will win). I’m wondering what it means on a day to day level for “his truth to triumph through us.” Or maybe, once again, I’m seeing the sacrifice of remaining in a difficult situation and sorta know where God wants “his truth to triumph through us.” 🙁 or 🙂 ????
I’ve exceeded my word limit for the day 😉 Was gonna respond to prayer requests above, but will go to FB because I wonder if number of posts (or posts per day) also might trigger security filter ?? Glad there are some fact-gathering questions coming up 😀 Reflection questions wear me out, and I may be interpreting “fellowship” as “when I get worn out, I’ll wear everyone else out, too.” 😉
I do think we need Face to Face, but when God is feeding you here, it would be foolish not to do this! And you bless us here so.
Playing the chords of this age old hymn are powerful: “Were not the right man on our side, the man of God’s own choosing! Christ Jesus it is He!
God hath willed his truth to triumph through us. the Spirit and the gifts are ours.”
My reflections: I am standing on God’s truth, and I am secure. I will not fear, I may startle and I may shake… as the realization of tremendous power is felt,
but I will stand, for I know the One who has won the battle over all worldly terrors, including death. (Psalm 27:1 is my verse that assures me.)
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid? The whole world is being re-created at that very moment. The mountains are falling into the sea. The land is being changed. The Japanese painting comes to mind, the waves coming up and over the land taking the mountains with them. If the mountains are gone whatever city or dwelling was there is gone also. Life has changed completely. With all the tumult (the noise) all has changed. This is a really scary image and how can we not be afraid? At this moment all we have is our faith in God. Our homes could be gone our people, family, money and food. A super natural filling of His spirit would have to overcome me. I’m a woman and mother, to lose control is to lose my mind. Sometimes I think about what I would do if a fire broke out or I got in a car accident and it was just me and the kids what would I do? Everyone depends on me, to eat, to be cleaned, to stay out of danger. God takes care of me and some things cannot be avoided and in those unavoidable crisis’ I trust and know my GOD, MY REFUGE AND STRENGTH, an ever present help in trouble.
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean? As I was reading a commentary on Psalms 46 written by Glenn D. Blank he pointed out that this same imagery is found in Ezekiel 47, Zachariah 14 and Revelation 22. So I decided to read these chapters and what I found is that in Zachariah 14 mountains topple and great wars are braking out and a river from the temple is flowing out to the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea. Pure clean water providing healing to all the animals and all who drink it. So I believe that this is a picture of Jesus’ restoration of the earth and His Eternal Kingdom being established, the city of God is the New Jerusalem coming from heaven
Nicole, your comment has prompted many thoughts…
“the noise” of tumultuous circumstances (cool way of putting it…e.g., the “noise” of the world, the “noise” in my head, etc.)
…and then, (oh! the comfort and safety net of our Lord)
“God takes care of me and some things cannot be avoided and in those unavoidable crisis’ I trust and know my GOD, MY REFUGE AND STRENGTH, an ever present help in trouble.”
Thanks for sharing your thoughts…they fed my soul this morning.
I LOVE “Like A River Glorious.” It brought me to tears after about the third time (the song reminds me of my mom). After about the 7th or 8th time listening to it, I looked up info about its author (Once upon a time, I knew it was Frances Havergal, who also wrote “Take My Life and Let it Be…,” but I had forgotten). I read about her on several websites, and liked the following one the best: http://www.wholesomewords.org/biography/bhavergal.html
She lost both parents, was in poor health, and she died at age 42. But what a ministry! I was astounded by the amount of Scripture she had memorized, and the influence of Scripture shows in her writing. I’m on about the 15th or 16th time of listening now, so might check out other renditions 🙂
Thanks for sharing that background about Frances Havergal. I have always loved that song too…. looking forward to listening and reflecting on both of the songs. And reading the comments on them. Skimmed them….until I do my homework.
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean?
Spurgeon’s commentary is SO helpful…http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps046.htm
It is all about grace and the Lord’s presence…His grace is infinite, it does not have boundaries. When I am assailed by the woes and evil of this world, the Lord is right there with me…regardless of my strength, He will prevail…He will prevail in His wisdom, in His strength, and in His time frame.
It is incredible what one can get out of two verses…:) What a way to start my day!
Nanci-so glad you shared this from Spurgeon, I love that too. “Divine grace like a smoothly flowing, fertilising, full, and never failing river, yields refreshment and consolation to believers.”
Yes, Nanci ~ When I am assailed by the woes and evil of this world, the Lord is right there with me…regardless of my strength, He will prevail…
Thank you for this post.
Nanci…will listen to this…thanks for sharing!
B. Verses 3 and 6 are a chiasm. In the ESV, for example, you could draw a circle around “roar” in verse 3, and around “rage” in verse 6 and draw a line. Then, draw a circle around “tremble” in verse 3, and around “totter” in verse 6 and draw a line. What point do you think God is making with these similarities?
I’m not so familiar with poetry or chiasm, so this isn’t really earth shattering to me. Should it be? The first thing I think of is how in the world did anyone ever link the two words together because they’re not near each other in the script? Was it written a different way in the past? Is it just because the words roar and rage begin with an R and tremble and totter begin with a T? I had to look up chiasm, and I figured out it means a link or overlapping of something. In between verse three and six the verses talk about some sort of rescue by God. Is the river Jesus? He’s the link between earth and God? And, I’m fairly certain “she” is earth.
So, you have bad stuff going on down on earth, then you have Jesus the river between earth and God, then you have God being in the midst of all the bad stuff on earth helping her, and then you have bad stuff going on down on earth again with the realization that God is ever present. Uh-oh, I think I’m starting to get this poetry thing!
Can’t get this song out of my head…..perfect for this week too!
http://youtu.be/l8AB0vUU038
That is a good song for this week! Thanks for sharing the link, Laura.
Yes, Laura. Truth-declaring, hope-infusing song!
Laura…that’s a beautiful song…I’d never heard it…thank you so much!
Hadn’t heard that song for a long time. Very good! The verse in Revelation that was on my mind which I included in a comment was also quoted in the song! Encouraging that it was reinforced that way!
Now that song will be I my head which is a good thing:)
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now?
Reflections: The devil is portrayed as strong and very evil but God is portrayed as stronger still and the Lord of Hosts, the angel armies (Sabaoth). I was a little distracted by the background picture which kept repeating. Then I realized that it seemed to be a picture of an old abandoned, rundown fortress. I wonder what it is and where.
How it ministers to me right now:
Sometimes, in the midst of this battle, my strength goes weak. I start to doubt myself. I see so many ways I have failed and feel guilt. The “cruel hate” of the Accuser whispers lies and condemns me. It would be easy to give up. The battle seems to be either stalled or it seems God is losing. This is the time that I need to remember that it is not my own strength that is winning any battle. My strength is gone but God with his angel armies is fighting with me. And so, I turn my face to the Lord that I believe in but cannot at this moment see or feel and take another step in trust. “He shall win the battle.”
3. Read Psalm 46:1-3 and linger over the images. How is creation in tumult and why should we not be afraid?
I just can’t forget the media images of the aftermath of the tsunami in Japan a few years ago. The huge power of the ocean surge wiped out everything and everybody in its path. Also, our church women were praying for the Christians in the Philippines last week and their struggle to help with thousands of people and villages still living in ruins in the aftermath of a huge hurricane which devastated the Philippines in November 2013.
Why should we not be afraid? “God is our refuge and our strength, a very present help in trouble” vs. 1 and “The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress.” (vs. 11) Though our earthly fortresses (of any kind) will be destroyed, God is our fortress.
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean?
I’ve spent a little time reading Spurgeon’s Treasure of David here this morning. I love what he says about the river here in verse 4: The great fear of an Eastern city in time of war was lest the water supply should be cut off during a siege; if that were secured the city could hold out against attacks for an indefinite period. In this verse, Jerusalem, which represents the church of God, is described as well supplied with water, to set forth the fact that in seasons of trial all sufficient grace will be given to enable us to endure unto the end. ……….. and as a great river is the very making and mainstay of a town, so is the broad river of everlasting love, and grace their joy and bliss.
This link for anyone wanting the full source: http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps046.htm
Makes me think of some old song lyrics:
There is a river, and it flows from deep within
There is a fountain, that frees the soul from sin
Come to this water; there is a vast supply
There is a river, that never shall run dry.
Those lyrics keep running through my mind, Nila. Thanks for posting….had not thought of that song. I may have misinterpreted the ‘river’…..I find both interpretations so comforting though.
7. Watch the first four minutes and 17 seconds of Video 6 in The Idol Lies series by going to this page — then share your thoughts. http://deebrestin.com/idol-lies/
Well, my first thoughts are “Who is Dee kidding?” “How do you JUST watch 4 minutes and 17 seconds?” lol Sorry, I watched to the end (about 16 minutes, I think). However, commenting just on the first 4 minutes 17 seconds, I got the impression that the age-old question of why God allows good people to suffer isn’t going to be answered in this life. Rather we have to accept that it is good enough that God goes with us through whatever is appointed in our lives. We need to accept that God is good, and we need not fear. The questions that God asked Job (Have you ever given orders to the morning or shown the dawn its place? Etc.) are still applicable to us. We acknowledge that God has powers we can’t even begin to imagine, so who are we to suggest He change his ways?
However, if I may comment on the rest of the video — what a story!!! Dee and Steve praying the promises of God during Steve’s illness, and Steve asked God to take care of his daughters after he is gone. Dee interprets this to mean that they would each marry godly men with godly fathers — and she gets her wishes as each, in turn, marry godly men with pastors as fathers. Dee — I think someone needs to make a movie about your family!! A Family called Brestin or something along those lines. 🙂
🙂 You are a sweetheart.
Deanna–this made me smile “someone needs to make a movie about your family!!”–I said the same thing to my husband (and Dee!) when I finished God of All Comfort the first time—OH. I can’t remember if you’ve read it–but if not, OH YOU MUST. Maybe “The Brestins”–kind of like “The Waltons”…could be a new mini-series Dee, you think? 🙂
Deanna, I think that would be a wonderful book! There would be much joy and happiness….but also much pain and sorrow:( That’s how I felt when I seen the picture of Sally and Steve. They have the same smile! I felt joy to see the picture of them and then the heartache of his passing hit me.I worked with Steve and went to the same church as they did and went to Dee’s bible studies. My oldest daughter was a year behind Sally in high school and they had the same lady who taught them art. She must of really made an impact on the kids as my daughter is a artist too. But she’s never painted anything as big and beautiful as Asian. I feel so blessed to have known the Brestin’s back then. I remember how precious Anne was in church all dressed up in her darling little dresses after they adopted her. Anne’s little girls look just like their beautiful mommy did, now!
Yes, that picture of Sally and Steve…so happy…broke my heart to see it at first, but then, that’s how they will look when they first lay eyes upon each other in Heaven…as well as you Dee! Praise God!
4. What reflections do you have on the above hymn? Oh my — this is more of a “heart reflection” than a “head reflection” on Like a River Glorious. I’m listening to it for about the 34th or 35th time now:) All but one of the listens were on the version posted above!Each time I listen helps me rest in Him more…finding, as He promised, perfect peace and rest. It’s not very long; I’ll reach 40 before I’m done posting!
Head part: Parts that stood out to me because they fit the “bad stuff”: never traitor stand, not a surge of worry, not a blast of hurry
So, SO thankful that HE IS WHOLLY TRUE, wholly dependable—Praying that I will trust Him wholly. (other phrases are standing out, too — e.g., Perfect, yet it floweth fuller every day, Perfect, yet it groweth deeper all the way.) My experience of His peace definitely is growing deeper and fuller.
Since I was already looking at Havergal’s songs, I also listened to “Take My Life and Let it Be” (sung at my pastor’s ordination a couple weeks ago). I only listened to this one twice http://youtu.be/6QubPnYFavY It seems like wedding vows to my Bridegroom after basking in His love and peace. The word “consecrated” jumped out because Havergal was described as consecrated.
5. Read Psalm 46:4-5. In the sermon, David Jackman will tell you that Jerusalem does not have a river that runs through it. So what could this mean? The Gospel Transformation Bible referred to a hidden aqueduct. I also thought of Rev 22: “Then the angel1 showed me xthe river of ythe water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb”After listening to Like A River Glorious 40 times, “the river of the water of life” resonates with me. The new Jerusalem? the river of the water of life that we experience in this life. Certainly the aqueduct provided water for life, too. Wondering what others think, what the answer is 🙂 (have to catch up on reading — later, going out of town now)
2. What reflections do you have on the above hymn and how does it minister to you right now? I grew up in a Lutheran church, where this song was held in high regard. And I always liked the ongoing ‘story’ that it tells. Agree with Dee. It’s one of those songs where you cannot only sing one or two verses. You have to get the whole picture as it describes the ways in which Satan seeks to devour us. You have to sing it through to see the completeness of God’s victory over Satan and the powers of darkness.
I’m looking at the words, translated in two different ways in two hymnbooks in front of me. It so amazes me that translators can take rhyming lyrics in one language and make them rhyme in another and still stay true to the meaning! I have always pondered this. And in this case, more than one good translation, that still rhymes and that one must assume stayed true to the original German meaning. And classic songs like this one are likely translated into many languages. Mind boggling to me.
I just want to offer an alternative set of lyrics, not because I think they are better….(I like them both equally) but because they can serve as commentary on each other. I italicized phrases that especially minister to me right now. The lines that are in bold italics are reminding me that the things I have been fearing this week, need to be looked at in perspective. I need not. I cannot yield to fear. He has won the victory in EVERY field of battle!
A mighty fortress is our God. A trusty shield and weapon; Our help is He in all our need, Our stay whate’er doth happen.
for still our ancient foe, doth seek to work us woe; Strong mail of craft and power, he weareth in this hour; On earth is not his equal.
Stood we alone in our own might, our striving would be losing; For us the one true Man doth fight. The man of God’s own choosing.
Who is this chosen One? ‘Tis Jesus Christ, the Son. The Lord of hosts, ’tis He. Who wins the victory in every field of battle.
And were the world with devils filled, all watching to devour us, Our souls to fear we need not yield, They cannot overpower us:
Their dreaded prince no more, can harm us as of yore; His rage we can endure: For lo! his doom is sure, A word shall overthrow Him. **
Still they must leave God’s word its might, for which no thanks they merit; Still He is with us in the fight, with His good gifts and Spirit.
And should they, in the strife, take kindred, goods and life. We freely let them go. They profit not the foe. With us remains the kingdom.
** “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.”
Thanks for sharing these alternative lyrics, Wanda. I find this one thought-provoking…”And should they, in the strife, take kindred, goods and life. We freely let them go. They profit not the foe. With us remains the kingdom.” Yes…the enemy truly gains nothing.
that stood out to me too, Susan……such assurance that there is no benefit for serving the world, the flesh and the devil…. (and sad 🙁 when we think of those who are)
Missed you Susan. Love your heart!
Wanda…..the last line in nearly the same wording as the song that I am singing over and over this week! It’s by Jeremy Camp (I think) and is called “Overcome.”
“We will overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony, everyone overcome.”
LAURA! I JUST wrote the same thing on the link for your song which I listened to after I had written this! 🙂 It’s Revelation 12:11 and it came to my mind when I read the 3rd verse of the song. The Spirit stirred us both in the same way!
Goosebumps! Love it!
1. 6. Read Psalm 46:6-9
A. What images are in this passage? I see this as a very prophetic Psalm. I see the great city unshakable, unmovable while the whole rest of the world is in turmoil. I guess I see an all powerful God holding me in His hand saving me from the chaos of the world. Resting and knowing he is GOD and knows and sees and is here.
B. Verses 3 and 6 are a chiasm. In the ESV, for example, you could draw a circle around “roar” in verse 3, and around “rage” in verse 6 and draw a line. Then, draw a circle around “tremble” in verse 3, and around “totter” in verse 6 and draw a line. What point do you think God is making with these similarities? I see Israel as the center once again. But I also see God driving home the fact that He is with us and we should not be shaken (internally). I’ve experienced this in my life and I’ve also experienced being completely turned upside down. Now I can see that it was my lack of seeking Him that turned me upside down. Isolating instead of lamenting and looking towards God. I guess that’s what growing is and that’s why I’m so happy to have found this blog. I’ve been so blessed.
C. David Jackman points out that verse 8 calls us to look at the desolations of the earth through the tumult of both creation and its peoples and “behold the works of the Lord.” This is surprising. Contemplate and share your thoughts. This is difficult because people can’t envision God in the “messes” of the world, his recreation of these situations. There are many verses in the Bible like this one. Look at the history of the Jewish people. Because of their disobedience they were exiled, conquered, and removed from the land. But GOD loves them still and the same and through great pain has established them back in their land and many Jews in Israel are turning toward Jesus and recognize Him as Messiah in great numbers for the first time since the church of Acts which was hugely Jewish. I remember a friend who was explaining a sermon that really impacted her and this is what she said: the minister was teaching from Jeremiah and the potters’ wheel and how sometimes the pot can’t be fix and it has to be completely broken down and rebuilt. This isn’t exactly what is happening in this Psalm but is what came to mind when I envisioned the devastations on the Earth.
Very perceptive and well articulated thoughts, Nicole.
Nicole, I don’t know if I welcomed you to our group or not, so Welcome and I’m so happy you found us too!!
Hi!! And thanks
Love the potter wheel illustration Nicole. We are the clay:) There is beauty in brokenness.
4. What reflections do you have on the above hymn?
I am answering the questions on my own this week—but I wanted to share this one thought on #4. I too love “Like a River Glorious” though I haven’t sung it in a while. What has struck me anew this time is the verse “Hidden in the hollow of His blessed hand, Never foe can follow, never traitor stand; Not a surge of worry, not a shade of care, Not a blast of hurry touch the spirit there.”
I read it, and I want to hide in His hand, where the Enemy cannot follow—where fear and worry and busy-ness cannot live. It’s “easy” to feel the safety of His hand around me when I am reading and studying His Word, in my cozy little bubble of home or Christian fellowship. But when I venture in to the hard parts of life, I so easily crawl from the safety of His hand and try to manage the trials on my own—where foe can follow, worry surges, and my spirit becomes rushed and hurried.
The refrain…”stayed upon Jehovah”—so takes me to Isaiah 26:3 “You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.” Sounds so simple, but a key reminder to me—the only way to face the trials and stay in the shelter of His hand at the same time, is to keep my mind ever going back to Him, again and again. This difficult relationship—He has it. My child’s uncertain path—He knows it. And where I usually get tripped up, is that we know hard stuff happens here, and so I know there are no guarantees of the kind of protection/rescue I think I want…but I love what Keller says—that God gives what we would ask for if we knew everything. Keep my mind stayed upon Him—Scripture, prayer, hymns…and He promises peace.
I thought this was neat too—in Spurgeon’s autobiography he says “With God against us, we arc in a state of war; but with God for us, we dwell in perfect peace.” And then he tells a story of visiting the orphanage he started, and there was a great storm—thundering and lightening, but no one was afraid. He says “It is true we all felt awed, but we were restful, and somehow there was a quiet but general cry for “perfect peace”. On enquiring what this meant, I was answered by all the boys singing-right joyfully,”Like a river glorious is God’s perfect peace, Over all victorious in its bright increase, Perfect, yet it floweth fuller every day; Perfect, yet it groweth deeper all the way. Stayed upon Jehovah, hearts are fully blest, Finding, as He promised, perfect peace and rest. ”
Elizabeth, your entire post is beautiful and very, very meaningful. I so needed these words tonight…“It’s “easy” to feel the safety of His hand around me when I am reading and studying His Word, in my cozy little bubble of home or Christian fellowship. But when I venture in to the hard parts of life, I so easily crawl from the safety of His hand and try to manage the trials on my own – where foe can follow, worry surges, and my spirit becomes rushed and hurried.” I would add that when I venture out into hard things, I can somehow feel as if He has let go of me, and suddenly I feel all alone and on my own.
Yet you remind us that “This difficult relationship – He has it. My child’s uncertain path – He knows it.”I will pray that as you face these daily trials, you will cling to these sure promises.
oh susan–this so touched myheart, I had started to type something about how alone I feel when I leave His hand, but I couldn’t word it–and you captured it “I would add that when I venture out into hard things, I can somehow feel as if He has let go of me, and suddenly I feel all alone and on my own.”
It is the alone-ness that creeps in, and allows the Enemy to find an open ear to whisper into, and I begin to fear and doubt.I love Thanksgiving–focusing myself to remember His faithfulness–speak truth to my soul…and then as I am “stayed upon Jehovah”–the peace, the joy, does begin to overtake the doubt again
I can so identify with discussion between Elizabeth and Susan above.
Elizabeth, I was feeling a little low last evening and wondering if I was really qualified or capable to meet the expectations of my new job since it is so different…much more “technical” and working on the computer, and a certain person had suggested to me that this probably wasn’t going to work out for me! Worry, fear, uncertainty and doubt were all rushing in. However, I kept remembering your words and I kept praying and asking Him for help, and today, I actually had a good day at work and my co-worker told me that I was doing a great job. I still have much to learn but I’m trying to remember…He has this.
I appreciate this exchange between Susan and Elizabeth. I didn’t realize you were doing a new job, Susan, or I had forgotten. I am glad you are starting to settle in. Your exchange reminds me of a great devotional thought from Joni Eareckson-Tada. Here is the part that most touches me.
Our sins are not only covered; we are clothed in Christ’s righteousness. I am picturing here the wedding garment described in Psalm 45 and in Song of Songs.
And here’s a further thought from an article from Leslie Vernick called “Are you a human being or are you trying to be God?” that is causing me to really examine my self-condemning self- talk. https://un184.infusionsoft.com/app/hostedEmail/525208/c7cfb5738842ddc4
Sorry, Dee, for being wordy.
Diane…all three of these examples are pure gold. Joni’s, Leslie’s and your reminder of the wedding garment in ps. 45. It’s so exciting to me to realize that these psalms are really beginning to take shape in my heart and mind. I mean, I can actually remember several of them as to their number and theme. Oh….I love the way Joni depicts that whole scene. THANKS!!!
oh Diane–this is so what I needed to read tonight! I love the Joni devotional–and Leslie’s words too. Lately, I am seeing more and more how hard it can be for me to really believe His forgiveness–to really let the shame and guilt be washed away. I know it in my head, but my sin feels so great, I default to sitting in guilt, that robs the joy. It just feels “too good to be true” sometimes–and yet it IS. Amazing Grace for a wretch like me! I think I’ll steal Wanda’s idea and copy this a file of gems from this blog. Thank you for this!
There is no reply button to your comment here, Elizabeth. I can identify with this.
That is why Joni and Leslie’s word hit home. I too see myself as a person who needs to get God’s forgiveness in my heart and not just my head. I feel like I am just beginning to “get it” and need it so desperately.
Diane
Leslies article struck A HUGE cord with me. I wrote about it in my journal and shared it with a friend. I so beat myself up. That has to stop! I think I may project that expectation as well onto others which I am sure is a huge turnoff and not something that would draw people to Christ if I am indeed doing that.
Love the Leslie post and that you are seeing your condemning self-talk.
Elizabeth, I love this entire post too, and especially the orphanage story! Yes, it is not always easy to keep our minds “stayed” on Him but it is the key to “perfect peace and rest.”
Elizabeth, I love the Keller quote and am glad you reminded us of it…..I will write it down this time. Also, the story of the boys in the orphanage….so, so beautiful. And Isaiah 26:3 came immediately to me when I thought about the song too. I am stirred by how you personalized it all so well.
1. What stands out to you from the above and why?
The picture of Sally and Steve. They both look radiant and happy. You can see the great love Sally has for her dad reflected in her eyes. That’s why, when I go on to read the next part about Steve’s diagnosis, and Sally’s faltering when singing in church, one can sense the anguish, the tearing apart of father and daughter that should not be so, and I know that God hates it as much as we do. I remember Keller’s sermon, The Furious Love of Jesus, in which he said that as Jesus wept for Lazarus, His friend, He was also weeping for every funeral that ever would be. Yet as He determined to raise Lazarus, He knew full well that He was signing His own “death warrant”. Jesus so understands our fears, troubles, uncertainties, and sorrows.
Susan–you worded this so well, I felt tears rush in on this “one can sense the anguish, the tearing apart of father and daughter that should not be so”…and I love how you end with going back to the Cross “Jesus so understands our fears, troubles, uncertainties, and sorrows.” Wow.
Thanks for sharing all of this, Susan…..and your experience with your new position. I’m so glad you were encouraged by Elizabeth’s words and will pray that you’ll transition well into it and it will be a blessing to you. Thanks for the ‘tip’ on the Keller sermon too. Sounds like another great one.
I love both of your comments, Susan and Elizabeth!
I can’t seem to see video six when I go to this link…..can anyone direct me to the correct place?
Is it video 6a? I am unable to play that video. It tells me it includes video from SMP (?), and asks if I can play it on YouTube. I go to YouTube and it says it doesnt exist. I’m confused.
Laura — can you not play it from my website? We are having trouble with the one on my app.
Got it now!
Great!
8. Read the rest of Psalm 46 and find an image of hope in the midst of the tumult. What is it and why does it speak to you?
God makes the wars end and is with us always! When all is lost He is there.
Questions 2-4:
God being my fortress doesn’t mean pain, tragedy, sin both personal and world wide will not deeply hurt me and others and above all hurt God. It doesn’t mean satan will not pour his cruel hate on the world, me, my sisters and brothers in Christ, and my earthly family. It doesn’t mean my son will be cured of Autism, or that me and my husband won’t endure health problems or die some day. Both songs and Psalm 46 spoke to me to keep my eyes like Doves on Him now..for His peace in the middle of the world falling apart surpasses all understanding. He rescues me to Himself, not necessarily from my circumstances. Why would I want to be anywhere else?!?!?
I also want to share-what deeply encouraged me again was that though the world may fall apart, He is glorious and triumphant over evil. my/our reality is that in the future He will make just what is unjust, and those who are oppressed will be no more. When I see a special needs teen at lunch time who is now unable to communicate and is trapped in his body as a result of the fall..i think that some day he will be whole, dancing before Jesus and I am sure Jesus will lift him up. On earth he is considered ‘last’ the lowest of all, even a janitor told me that kids like this shouldn’t even be here, oh that enraged me, but again the evil in what he said enraged me more but satan will not have the last word.
You are so tender-hearted and compassionate, Rebecca and you are a light, pointing to Jesus in that school, dear one! Hopefully that Janitor will come to know Him.
Your post brings tears, Rebecca. As Mary said, you are bringing light into darkness. Bless you for your loving heart toward the students. Especially those, who have no voice but yours…..and those who care, as you do.
6c. David Jackman points out that verse 8 calls us to look at the desolations of the earth through the tumult of both creation and its peoples and “behold the works of the Lord.” This is surprising. Contemplate and share your thoughts.
When I was reading Spurgeon’s commentary on Psalm 46, the following reference to v. 8 stuck in my mind…
“Whenever we read history is should be with this verse sounding in our ears. We should read the newspaper in the same spirit, to see how the Head of the Church rules the nations for his people’s good, as Joseph governed Egypt for the sake of Israel.”
I am reminded that no matter how things appear, the Lord is at work, providing for His people. “Appearances” in human comprehension can be so deceiving…we interpret events, happenings, etc. in a human sense, in reality there is SO MUCH MORE going on that we cannot comprehend. This leads back to trust…trusting that the Lord knows best and has our best interest in mind, His timing is optimal, etc. …though all might appear in chaos and disarray (which it likely is in some sense), the Lord is at work and will bring His peace which will prevail.
I think that this point in Spurgeon’s commentary also “hit home” due to my commitment to praying the news. It feels like a message from the Lord to me; the Lord telling me to not fear or become overwhelmed with the happenings in this world (my heart aches and feelings of despair and being overwhelmed are common for me when praying the news…so much evil, injustice, hurt, disease)…the Lord is assuring me that He has all well in hand; He is instructing me to continue to pray with a trust that He is at work, His victory will come, His peace is a guaranteed result.
I love this, Nanci “we interpret events, happenings, etc. in a human sense, in reality there is SO MUCH MORE going on that we cannot comprehend. This leads back to trust…trusting that the Lord knows best and has our best interest in mind, His timing is optimal, etc. …though all might appear in chaos and disarray (which it likely is in some sense), the Lord is at work and will bring His peace which will prevail.” Applies on many levels!
Nanci I loved this” appearances in human understanding can be so deceiving.” SO TRUE and so important to always remember. Yes when we intercede we need to be handing it over not taking it on. Keeping our eyes fixed on Him and not the prayer needs. That is one I always have to remind myself of, in prayer in my family in my ministry and in my work place. (And on the blog:) When the overwhelmed feeling comes that is an indicator I am not operating in the right order.
So good Nancy about how to trust God when “praying the news.”
8. Read the rest of Psalm 46 and find an image of hope in the midst of the tumult. What is it and why does it speak to you?
Recently Psalm 46:10 had a huge significance for me in tumult. Just a week or so after being diagnosed with my breast cancer recurrence I was having what I call a “major melt-down, crying jag” I was crying so loud I was afraid my neighbors might hear and I was praying at the same time but I said to God, “If you speak in a still, small voice, I certainly will never hear You. I need LOUD.” Right then the first part of Psalm 46:10 came to me “Be still and know that I am God…” but I could not remember where that verse was located so I googled it and the first link I hit on (which was not the first that showed up, but for some reason the one I was drawn to) just spoke directly to my heart, exactly what I needed to hear. It was a web page giving the Hebrew meaning of the words in that verse. Here is a small excerpt from that page, “The command to ‘be still’ comes from the Hiphil stem of the verb rapha, (meaning to be weak, to let go, to release)…” Anyway I’m putting the link here because the whole thing is just so good and it also makes me think of all you ladies who have kids who are not walking with the Lord…”be weak, let go, release…” And certainly in the context of the full verse “….I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.” We can apply it to what we see going on in each of our nations and on a global level. Anyway, I hope it speaks to someone else as well.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Meditations/Be_Still/be_still.html
Mary, THANK YOU! I’m leaving the webpage open so that I can reread. This speaks right to the heart of what I was discussing with someone yesterday. I was going to copy a sentence here. But, after I looked again, I realized I’d be copying the whole article. I need to come back to this (and staying my heart on Jehovah) over and over and over.
Renee, I’m so glad it spoke to your too! 🙂
Thanks Mary for sharing. Love it!!!
oh Mary–I’m already teary-eyed just from reading this post! off to read the article now 😉
OH…… Mary, Thank you for posting this entry and for the link. Such a balm to my soul.
Just found this now, Mary. Thanks so much for the link. Will read as soon as I can. I appreciate your sharing your times of heartache with us. You have been in a place that most of us have not and you are such a bright example of one who is trusting in spite of the uncertainty and through times that are surely disconcerting (at best)……Love that you are here. The depth of your walk with the Lord helps me press on.
Mary, I will check out the link, but what really speaks to me is your crying out to God. I have done that very thing (loudly) with respect to both of my wayward middle children. Me, in tears, screaming at God to change the situation, asking why?, and finally collapsing with seemingly no answers except for me to give up. I’m not really sure that I felt better afterwards, but I had given up at that point and realized I could do nothing more for my children and it was up to God to intervene. BTW, I didn’t care if my neighbors heard…..
My middle son has done well and I am proud of his accomplishments. He is in culinary school and has focus. He still has a ways to go on the maturing level. My daughter, not so much…..we will have a situation coming up in February that needs prayers. I don’t know what God has planned for her. I am a bit nervous, but trying not to intervene there. I suppose prayers are in order for that and I will post on the FB page. Maybe she will mature some between now and then. We’ll see.
Just prayed for both your kids right now, Laura!
Mary what a precious glimpse of an incredibly intimate moment in your life with crying ou to the Lord. The article you shared is a keeper. I just took a photograph of a stone my friends husband had cut Be Still in and I make cards out of it and I may share some of that in the card.i just sent it to my 87 year old friend from church. The Lord keeps giving her that Word. We read Psalm 46 when we were together t he other day.
Wow, Liz, that is so cool about your 87 year old friend and her husband cutting “be still” into a stone! I love that. What a tangible reminder.