Every story that touches our hearts does so because it echoes the story that is true. It begins with hope, but there is always trouble — a villain, a tragedy, and then a rescuer and a happily ever after. John Eldredge believed the secret of the success of the movie Titanic lay in its closing. After all the death comes life, a scene of all restored. The Titanic is back to its former glory, the people are young, alive, and dancing. Ahhh — and one day, so it will be for we who know the Lord.
Last week we had a “kiss from the King,” that is too wonderful not to share, for I want you all to be kissed by One who is so personal. Remember I posted this map? I chose it simply because it had a clear YOU ARE HERE on it for I was making Eldredge’s point that we must always remember in our pain and sorrow, that this is not the end of the story. This is the map I posted:
Our own dear Chris whom many of you know lost her son Daniel who was walking along when boys assaulted him. He lingered in the hospital and then died. Chris said, “Did you intentionally post that map — it is a map of the hospital grounds and the “You are here” is where my husband and I sat one day after getting bad news. We walked outside and sat by this sign. I told her, “No — I had no idea. That was God. That was obviously for you.” This is not the end of Chris’s story, not the end of Bill’s story, and not the end of Daniel’s story.
We are part of a story — there is an enemy, but he does not have the last word.
VIEWING MOVIES AND LITERATURE THROUGH THE LENS OF THE TRUE STORY
Every good story that touches our hearts does so because it taps into the true story. If you read or watched John Eldredge’s Epic, be sure to share.
Jerram Barrs of Covenant Seminary www.Covenantseminary.edu has a course on Children’s Literature (you can hear his lectures on their website under resources and then classes) in which he explains why some children’s books have such a great appeal — for they are “Echoes of Eden.” In Runaway Bunny, Margaret Wise Brown taps into how the heart of a child (and adult!) wants romance and adventure, and thinks he can find it by running away. But then he also longs to have a rescuer. The mother bunny lets her little bunny dream of running, but then tells him all the ways she will rescue him. “If you become a bird and fly away, I will become a tree you can fly to.”
J. R. Tolkein and C. S. Lewis had a famous conversation shortly before Lewis’ conversion to Christianity. It’s nine minutes long, but worth it:
This week we will look at Philippians and learn the secrets of overcoming anxiety.
Sunday/Monday
1. What stands out to you from the conversation of Tolkein and Lewis and why?
2. Review the four acts of the True Story as explained by John Eldredge last week.
3. What elements of the true story did you see in Titanic, or in another adventure or love story you love?
4. How might you read (or watch) and then discuss good stories in a way that would make them more meaningful? Have you done this?
Monday/Wednesday: Bible Study (Philippians 3:20 through 4:7)
5. Read Philippians 3:20-21 and tell us: “Where is your real home and how should this affect you today?”
6. Read Philippians 4:1-3
It makes me so sad to see how frequent is conflict in a local body of believers. I see it all the time, and I see congregations turning on their pastors, and I see the enemy divide the sheep. When it happens, it is because we have lost sight of the big picture, of what is really important.
A. Find everything you can about Euodia and Syntyche.
B. This section begins with “Therefore.” Paul is putting the problem of discord in the church with Euodia and Syntyche in the context of Philippians 3:20-21. Why? What perspective could this give to overcome conflict?
Two weeks ago, one of our own, Dawn M. S. confessed she had lied to her boss and went to her boss in repentance, confessing her sin. She received a gracious response and healing occurred. I thought, How I wish this was more common — how much more harmonious our worlds and our churches would be.
7. Think about conflict you may be having. Could the big picture help you gain perspective?
8. In Philippians 4:4, what are we told to do? Why can we rejoice in Him even when times are hard?
9. What are we told to do in Philippians 4:5, and why?
Your translation may say graciousness, reasonableness, or moderation. All have an element of this Greek word. We can be kind and gracious in good times and in hard times, because they are temporary. We are in the middle of “the story,” and neither should be too important to us. Keller, in this week’s message, compares it to 1 Corinthians 7:25-31.
10 What is the main point of 1 Corinthians 7:25-31? How could this help you in both good times and bad times?
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
Last week my dear friend Sylvia was telling me of a friend who has experienced one tragedy after another and has also, along with it, had grief and anxiety for years. But she has changed and become peaceful. When Sylvia probed her about it, she said she has learned to thank God for even the hard things, knowing that He is in control and has a purpose in the big picture. This is hard, and I do not suggest recommending this to a person in high tide grief, but we may each take it to heart, and when we are ready, obey this, for this is indeed, inherent in this passage. If God is good, if God is in control, if we are not at the end of the story, then, yes, we can thank Him for the things that seem unfathomable to us.
12. What is the promise at the close of this passage? Have you experienced this peace? If so, share.
Thursday/Friday: Keller Sermon Peace in Church and Heart (LINK)
13. Share your notes and thoughts.
14. If you watched or read Eldredge’s Epic, share something here.
Saturday:
15. What is your take-a-way and why?
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5. Read Philippians 3:20-21 and tell us: “Where is your real home and how should this affect you today?”
Love this—the KJV says “for our conversation is in heaven”! Just brings another level for me. Heaven is where I belong, already. I am a citizen, a member…“an inhabitant who enjoys the freedom and privileges of the city in which he resides” (1828 Webster’s).
If I let it sink in, this all feels so very temporary. Like an extended vacation—only my Home is immensely, beyond comparison. Oh how it shrinks the battles, the frustrations. We are moving at the end of the month and, let me just say, I’m a slightly obsessive planner by nature and have been on over-drive. For the month, I have woken every morning with thoughts of room arrangements and paint colors, or how badly I need to clean the oven before we move out. This is just about another house—an earthly dwelling a mile away. What would my life be like to have that anticipation, that same drive to prepare—for my Eternal Home. It should change every minute of this life. There is a certain urgency—to not waste an opportunity. An chance to show more grace, more forgiveness—the kindness of the Lord. A few weeks ago the thought had struck me in our lesson, that one change in Heaven is that I will love like Jesus loves. That still stops me. I know Christ is in me now—but OH, my sin. To love like Jesus. When I typed it I felt strange—like it was presumptuous. But it is true, and that thought alone just excites me. I long to love, purely, other-centered, selflessly. So how this all affects me today? I think of Luther’s “all of life is repentance”. I repent of my self-seeking ways. My whining when the day seems too long and too much on me. This life is only a slither. Lord, help me set my mind on things above, in preparation for my real dream Home.
Elizabeth, I’ll be praying for a smooth and easy moving time for you!
Elizabeth, I echo Joyce…”I’ll be praying for a smooth and easy moving time for you!”
elizabeth, praying for your moving. I am sure you have so much to think about – all the planning and work as well as the anticipation of color schemes and room arrangements. I LOVE your analogy to anticipating heaven, “What would my life be like to have that anticipation, that same drive to prepare—for my Eternal Home. It should change every minute of this life. There is a certain urgency—to not waste an opportunity.” So cool!
Elizabeth-yes, loved this: “I have woken every morning with thoughts of room arrangements and paint colors, or how badly I need to clean the oven before we move out. This is just about another house—an earthly dwelling a mile away. What would my life be like to have that anticipation, that same drive to prepare—for my Eternal Home. It should change every minute of this life. There is a certain urgency—to not waste an opportunity. An chance to show more grace, more forgiveness—the kindness of the Lord.”
LOVE this about you-“A few weeks ago the thought had struck me in our lesson, that one change in Heaven is that I will love like Jesus loves. That still stops me. I know Christ is in me now—but OH, my sin. To love like Jesus. When I typed it I felt strange—like it was presumptuous. But it is true, and that thought alone just excites me. I long to love, purely, other-centered, selflessly.”
I have to get off line for a moment-but wanted to thank you for posting this!
“Last week my dear friend Sylvia was telling me of a friend who has experienced one tragedy after another and has also, along with it, had grief and anxiety for years. But she has changed and become peaceful. When Sylvia probed her about it, she said she has learned to thank God for even the hard things, knowing that He is in control and has a purpose in the big picture.”
I have to say that I am not that good with the idea of “experiencing” God, as we discussed last week. But I can say that I have experienced a supernatural “thing” happen to me when I fix my mind on thanking God for the infinite blessings in my life. I can be complaining or angry or just down in the dumps, and when I choose to fix my mind on thanking Him, something supernatural happens. My burdens lift. I am reminded of how blessed I am. It works every time!
Amen Laura!
8. In Philippians 4:4 we are told to rejoice in The Lord always. We can because His love for us is sure and His power is without equal. I think it is difficult to rejoice when we are afraid. Hard times can make me fearful because it feels like God is not there and things are out of control. If W can happen then what will stop X Y and Z from also happening?
I need to look at things through the lens of God’s love and power. When I do that I can see that, yes it is bad that this happened but God is in control, He loves me and will use this for good and for His glory. That helps me to rejoice even in hard times.
10 What is the main point of 1 Corinthians 7:25-31?
We should not focus so much on life here on earth because it is temporary. Even though it seems so real and tangible it will soon be gone and we will be in eternity with the Lord. This helps me in both good times and bad times to see that it is all so temporary. I think it is easier to see this as I get older because I have a perspective of how quickly time passes. If I have spent my life building an empire where will it go? Will someone else tend my garden when I am gone? If not, how quickly it will be overrun with weeds. A beautiful garden is a wonderful thing but is it really worth all my time and energy? Paul is mostly using the metaphor of marriage. I think that is because it is such a good thing, but it is still only temporary.
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 4:6, 7 NIV)
I love these verses. They make me feel good and cozy 🙂
When we are anxious we are to PRAY first. We may ASK god for help. We need the give THANKS (as we always do in our prayers). We will receive PEACE and we will be CALM because of the protection of God.
It’s so TRUE! I came into summer with anxiety of creating outlines for my two “new” courses I am teaching next year (due tomorrow), and also with anxiety of taking care of my mom. I prayed. I asked God for help and I wouldn’t get “rattled” by my own anxiety; I forced myself to focus on Him. Do you know that it has ALL FALLEN into place? He has taken care of me!!! Even to the point of Sarah being the biggest joy in my life right now 🙂 for the first time ever I am actually enjoying my summer off!
Here’s one example (there are several): my two courses have two new books. I have personally developed curriculum for one course (astronomy) from 4 years ago. I have nothing for meteorology. When I started looking at the resources for meteorology I realized I had taken the class in 2005 that has been adopted by my school! I had ALL the labs and even the exact text! Woo-hoo! My job just became easier! It means that I have the back bone for the course and can just find supplemental activities to add to it! Thank you Jesus for the kiss!
Praise God Laura!!!
Laura,
I just love that He has so clearly showed you that He is taking care you!
8. In Philippians 4:4, what are we told to do? Why can we rejoice in Him even when times are hard?
To rejoice in the Lord always. Because our time here is fast yet it is part of the story but not ultimate or important. The things that happen whether good or bad are temporary compared to the life we have with Him now and in the future.
I don’t think this means doing a happy dance-maybe it does, but I am thinking that rejoicing in the Lord while suffering or while happy is clinging to Him and keeping our eyes fixed on the truth of the big story-The Gospel-the past, present and future, and when we do that we can experience His presence and have His peace rejoicing in Him no matter what is going on in our lives.
9. What are we told to do in Philippians 4:5, and why?
To be gentle to all whether in good or bad times because the Lord is near. This focus on “the story” does put things in their proper place as not that important-and so if someone brings in strife or comes with an issue that might hurt me, I can be kind and gracious to them for it isn’t a mountain but a hill-not that important in light of the reality of “the story”.
10 What is the main point of 1 Corinthians 7:25-31? How could this help you in both good times and bad times?
Wow-this is perfect-the main point! Paul is talking about undivided devotion to Jesus regardless of where we are at-for the things of this earth are fleeting, temporary-even marriage. He cautions to make our lives as simple here on earth as we can so that we won’t have as many stumbling blocks in our devotion to Him-it isn’t sin to marry or to mourn, or to have happy experiences on this earth-but don’t live engrossed in them for they will pass away.
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
Instead of bowing down, or continuing to bow down to anxiety Paul is exhorting us to cling to God-to pray and place our requests before God with thanksgiving.
-WOW..Dee’s story of Sylvia’s friend really explains to me what ‘thanksgiving’ means in this passage.
12. What is the promise at the close of this passage? Have you experienced this peace? If so, share.
That His peace which transcends my understanding and everyone elses-will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus.
Yes-the past two weeks! Now after reading Phil. 4:6-7 and hearing Sylvia’s friend’s story I finally understand what ‘thanksgiving’ means in that verse!
My story is two significant things happened this whole month and past week. God amazes me how He comes to me so often as He knows what lies ahead-my loving Shepherd. 🙂 1. This summer has been a nightmare financially for us-the worst summer yet. We figured the total loss of income over the past three to four years has been around $2,000 a month. There are other various trials in having a child with Autism, but He has given me His peace about all of this. 2. I can’t mention it on the blog.
I have experienced praying like this verse the past two weeks without even knowing it honestly. More and more as worry or anxiety hits-when issues arise in life as of late I am seeing it is all part of the big picture-as Tolkein said to Lewis-“even our conversation right now is part of His story.” I know the various trials I am going through is part of His story-He uses the worry and the pain and turns it around to joy as He pries my fingers off of any hindrance that might entangle me or take my devotion off of Him. One of my hindrances have been ‘guilt’-blaming myself for everything-which is assuming God is too-which isn’t true. So I am going to Him when these feelings of worry hit-as things happen and asking him to help me cling to him and then telling him I will trust Him-and I am finding when I meditate before Him on the big picture on the Gospel-I find myself praising Him too.
Think about it-can I be complete, happy and whole clutching to anything on this earth-even clutching to my un-true thoughts? NO-actually it turns around and bites me. Can I be complete happy and whole clutching to Him-YES-actually He is water to my soul quenching my thirst. His truth, The Gospel, drowns out the lies that this is all my fault and I deserve this and God is punishing me-the big picture drowns out the lie that life will be over if these trials aren’t fixed. This is all part of the big dance-of preparing me, His bride for the future.
Thanks Rebecca…this is a reminder I need again, and again, and again…I need to “etch” this in my brain.
“can I be complete, happy and whole clutching to anything on this earth(?)…NO-actually it turns around and bites me. Can I be complete happy and whole clutching to Him(?)-YES-actually He is water to my soul quenching my thirst. His truth, The Gospel, drowns out the lies”
God has revealed something to me this morning as i have done this study. i am a very anxious person and love routine. my life is far from routine as my children are in college and one just out of college. i tend to experience everything they experience with my fears and anxiety as a 50 year old and so everything is intensified. i was excited about this study because i am always looking “for the answer”. as i am in my home, my 4 walls get smaller and smaller. so i listen to more christian music and hear more sermons and read more good self-help books and trust that God will take it all away. But it appears to not be helping. and i question why. Well, this morning God revealed to me that what “I” want to do is hide in the promises of God (control)and for God to live thru me, i need to live out these promises (give up control). sounds so simple, but i am my worst enemy. it sounds so simple as i re-read over this, but it is very hard to die to self.
bjh — Isn’t it amazing how we can do that. Try to control God with His promises — and I think we have our own narrow idea of how those promises should be fulfilled — and He asks us to surrender. Such a good insight.
Welcome back bjh….how is your dad enjoying married life? I know what it’s like for “empty nesters” ..it’s no fun.
It’s the hardest thing ever, to die to self:(
Listening to Keller now. I like this phrase: Use big truths in little places
A. Find everything you can about Euodia and Syntyche.
They were women in ministry positions in the Church who were divided on an issue, and it was causing dissension. Paul pleads with them to agree, for the sake of the Church. I have worked for churches (2 different ones) for 16 years. It makes my stomach hurt to think of how often I have seen this, and yes—when I have been involved. In my previous position I heard every story the Sr Pastor had to deal with, and—dare I say—it was more often women causing the dissension than men. Now that I’m just a part-time financial person—I am so thankful to not hear all the “junk” that goes on, though it does. Yes, it makes me very sad. Yes, it is all about the big picture. Seeing how petty things are, and also seeing from another’s view. Perspective changes hearts.
“Paul specifically singles out two women, Euodia and Syntyche, in Phil 4:2 who were evidently divided over a particular issue. In light of Paul’s exhortations before Phil 4:2 regarding unity within the church, the division between these two women possibly infected the entire Philippian congregation. Thus, again Paul demonstrates that sin severed humankind’s relationship with his fellow man.” (Thabiti Anyabwile, Gospel Coalition)
“That he names them at all is evidence of friendship,” (IVP NT Commentary); “Euodia and Syntyche were Paul’s evangelistic associates.” (Tim Keller, “Women in Ministry”)
5. Where is your real home and how should this affect you today?
My real home is in Heaven. That perspective should help me to think before I react to things such as rude people, upsetting news media, etc… That perspective can be a relief and help me to relax and focus on what our goal is here and now and that is spreading the good news for the kingdom. It is easy for me to get caught up in the things of this world that are frustrating and forget that i don’t belong here. When going through conflict with my husbands ex wife my feathers get ruffled unbelievably but if I keep a kingdom perspective it helps me think about the best way to respond and be a light to her because she doesn’t believe. If I react as of the world then my witness is shot.
6. A. Find everything about euodia and syntyche.
They have labored side by side with Paul in the gospel along with clement. Their names are in the book of life.
B. This section begins with therefore. Paul is putting the problem of the disagreement in context with Phil. 3:20-21. Why? What perspective could this give to overcome conflict?
Possibly the argument was something similar to modern day church arguments such as what music to play hymns or praise. Or even something about the roles they play in the church or one of them not doing what they are supposed to do. I believe the enemy uses meaningless arguments within the church to distract the church from what they are supposed to be doing. I believe the enemy can take an issue that in the big picture has no eternal impact and make that the focus instead of Christ and the gospel. I think Paul is telling them to see the big picture and to not let themselves be distracted by the temporary troubles if this world and focus on advancing the kingdom.
7. Think about conflict you may be having. Could the big pictu help you gain perspective?
I am not in any conflict currently but I have been watching our church deal with conflict. It has been awesome to see our leaders handle this with a kingdom perspective rather than allowing the conflict to distract them from the real focus of Christ and advancing the kingdom. They have been a great example to look up to as they go through this always keeping their eyes on Jesus. I pray they continue in this mindset as they deal with the conflict.
8. In Phil.4:4 what are we told to do? Why can we rejoice when times are hard?
W are told to rejoice always. We can do that even in hard times because we securely know that we dwell here temporarily and a time is coming when all things will be made right and hard times and conflict won’t exist. That is hope.
Love that hope!
What a great testimony to the leadership in your church, Caitlin.
5. Where is your real home and how should this affect you today?
Heaven…I should realize that the “the world” and all its challenges, difficulties, sorrows, injustices, etc. are all temporary…my life on earth/in this world is a small blip in the bigger scheme of things. All will be transformed and restored at the given time…all will be brought under Jesus’ control…my eternal home is heaven where there will be no more evil, death, disease, or sorrow.
6. A. Find everything about Euodia and Syntyche.
-Both are believers
-Both are female
-They are in a disagreement with one another
-They are hard workers in sharing the gospel/good news
-Both have worked with others in the past successfully
B. This section begins with therefore. Paul is putting the problem of the disagreement in context with Phil. 3:20-21. Why? What perspective could this give to overcome conflict?
Worldly conflict is “small potatoes” in comparison to what awaits us…our concentration and energies should be on the gospel…on peace, love, and grace…on Jesus’ return, His transformation and restoration of all. We should not allow ourselves to be distracted by squabbles over insignificant, temporary, worldly concerns.
Great on B!
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
Philippians 4:6-7 has always been a special verse for me because anxiety is something that I struggle with a lot. Daily, I have a choice to make: be anxious or trust God. The story about Sylvia really resonated with me. I believe God has been showing me this week that the peace that will guard my heart and mind is available only when I trust Him. Trust is the key to destroying all of my idols. Like with Sylvia, it really isn’t complicated, but it requires a constant renewing of my mind to trust Him, that He is good and that He is in control.
God has used a variety of means to really drive this point home for me this week. For the last two weeks at church, they have played the song “Sovereign” by Chris Tomlin. The song is about trusting God with the totality of our lives, from our deepest fears to our greatest joys. Then I received a text message yesterday from my mom, who has been wrestling with God lately about her own idols. In it, she says that she is having a hard time answering the question: “Do I really love God or do I only love the gifts He gives me?” She went on to say that trust is what allows us to persevere when the gifts stop coming.
Then today I was flipping through the channels and came across a Christian program. The guest was blind and she had written a book called Missing Pieces, in which she talks about how God does not always fill in the missing pieces of our lives with stuff that we desire, but He always does so with Himself. She talked about accepting God in His wholeness even when life doesn’t seem fair. She had prayed for her eyes to be healed, and they never were. However, a Christian woman with the same eye disorder prayed and received miraculous healing. She struggled with understanding how His ways are perfect, even when one gets healed and the other doesn’t. And she said it comes down to trust. Do I trust that even in the “hard mercies” of life, His ways are perfect? And I loved this – she said, “He is not a God of “I feel” or “I think” but the God of “I am.” I can trust in that God.
I think back to Paul in the New Testament, constantly encouraging us to walk not by the flesh but by the Spirit. For so long, I have been trying to crucify the flesh in my attempt to walk by the Spirit. These are two different things. I’ve been dissecting my idols, one by one. I have spent lots of time examining my idols and exposing the lies. All the while, God says, “Trust me.” I think the easiest way for me to walk by the Spirit is to trust God. Then we receive His peace, and from there, joy and love.
In a nutshell, trusting God kills our idols.
I love this Laura
“it comes down to trust. Do I trust that even in the “hard mercies” of life, His ways are perfect?”
trusting God kills our idols….
I read this blog yesterday, it so ties in with what you have shared that I thought you might like it too:
http://conglomerationofjoy.com/2013/07/17/my-boundary-lines-have-fallen-in-pleasant-places/
Thanks for sharing this blog link, Chris. Wow! I went and read the background story as well. That little girl is fighting with the same cancer that my mother died from 6 years ago. It is amazing how much that mother is learning as she leans on God during this most difficult storm. Do you know the blogger personally?
Diane, I do not know her, our pastors wife posted that blog entry on Facebook, she articulates her journey so well, I drew strength from it, I am glad it touched you too.
Chris,
That was powerful. I read it last night and can’t get it off my mind. We can CHOOSE every time we are in the valley to trust God, not necessarily for the outcome we want but that He is sovereign, on the throne, using every wall and every boundary line for our good. I am really learning something here – it’s truly a matter of perspective. I do trust God that He will use my walls for good. Now I can stop fighting them and see the opportunities they present to be conformed to His image. PERSPECTIVE!
I really can’t thank you enough for posting that link. It truly blessed me.
Laura, it is so profoundly touching to watch you follow hard after God – to watch you trust God and let Him kill your idols. I have been with Dee on this blog for a couple of years now and, though I don’t have much time or energy to blog much at the moment because of the stage of my own particular crisis, I do read and I do ponder. Thank you for sharing yourself. It is a great encouragement. Thanks for sharing the Chris Tomlin song as well – good one.
Diane,
You too have encouraged me! This journey, at least by the world’s standards, is not glamorous. There are no quick fixes or immediate results, but God is faithful and that, I am learning, is enough. He will finish the work in each of us.
The more I see Him, the more I am able to reckon myself dead to the world and it dead to me. And as the gospels tell us, the paradox of Chrisitanity is that life comes only afer death. I read this somewhere and made a note for myself:
“Galatians 2:20 is the single most important verse for Christian living:
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.”
Life comes through the awareness that we died with Him to this world and the infinite idols they want to offer us.
7. Think about conflict you may be having. Could the big picture help you gain perspective?
I recall someone mentioning to me that before getting into “a huff” about something, one should think about how the situation will be viewed in the future…in six months or a year will it still be a “big deal” or is it really something insignificant, “small potatoes” that should be “let go”? I think that this is similar to Phil. 3:20-21…in the scheme of “eternity” most worldly disagreements are a waste of time and energy, a distraction. Truth be known, the sin of pride is likely involved…the evil one “baits the trap” and hopes that the bait will entice so he can slam the trap shut once again.
When I think of the past church battle I was involved in, in hindsight I see how the evil one plotted and primed; the many baits he put out to entice pastors/leadership/members/friends into his trap. I think about what might have been if the “ball” not been allowed to “get rolling”…if the demands of pride and control would have been ignored. I see in hindsight how we all allowed the evil one to play us “like a fiddle”…all it would have taken to avert the whole saga would have been humility (an admittance of wrong doing) and grace (forgiveness/pardon)…adherence to the gospel…truth and mercy.
B. This section begins with “Therefore.” Paul is putting the problem of discord in the church with Euodia and Syntyche in the context of Philippians 3:20-21. Why? What perspective could this give to overcome conflict?
Paul is reminding them who they are, where they belong, and Who they belong to.
We are citizens of Heaven. We belong there. We belong to Jesus. And we are awaiting His return. To turn our eyes back to our true identity, our true home, we must look up. Away from our earthly disagreements—and we gain a new perspective. All of this “stuff” suddenly shrinks in comparison to our eternal inheritance. And when I remember He is coming!—it should change the way I act at every moment. And my desire should be less about being heard, being “right”, but humbling myself and recognizing my own sin and the Cross that paid for it all. My sin, my offender’s sin—paid.
7. Think about conflict you may be having. Could the big picture help you gain perspective?
He has said “it is finished”—how can I say ‘no—wait, it’s not’?! Wow–this has convicted me today. I have an ongoing inner conflict with our struggle with one of our children. But I noticed a root in my anxiety, it’s one I have felt in other relationship struggles too. I fear, perhaps one of my greatest fears, is that I will be wrongfully accused. Blamed for something that ‘wasn’t my fault’. Or maybe it was, but the outcome was never my intent. I confessed this out loud alone in the car yesterday and almost immediately I could hear Dee say, “oh Elizabeth, that is SO NOT the Gospel!”. And I smiled, and then I felt it. The sin of still trying to rely on my own righteousness. Clearly, there are no quick fixes or formulas. I must daily lay this one down. And what hit even harder is the truth that Christ WAS wrongly accused, and blamed for sin He is incapable of—MY sin. And more, He willingly took the punishment. So my greatest fear—He took. I live in His righteousness. I live without accusation or blame, I have already been declared FREE.
8. In Philippians 4:4, what are we told to do? Why can we rejoice in Him even when times are hard?
Rejoice—ALWAYS. This verse would be worlds different if Paul didn’t add the “always” part—but He knew I would need it! I’m great at rejoicing when things go according to my prayer request, my plans. But always, means all the other times too. We had a bad storm yesterday, and my son is terrified of bad storms. He said ‘ I know God is with me, but why does He have to show all His power at one BIG time like this?” (He’s 6). So we tried to talk about all the ways God shows His power, and the blessing of that power—the storm cannot overtake Him. It went on a while and finally passed, and the birds came out chirping. My son said “I guess some people who don’t know God, needed to see how much power He has”. In that simple moment, it reminded me that while it is hard—it is possible, to praise Him in the storm. But I take great, great comfort in His gracious patience with me in doing so. He understands when I’m just not there yet. I admit it’s a lot easier to praise when the storm has passed. Though I’m getting better, I’m bad about imagining the ‘worst case scenario’. When I do, I cannot imagine being able to praise. In Dee’s God of All Comfort she says to remember—His faithfulness in the past, His truth, His Word. We can praise Him because He hasn’t left us, it isn’t punishment, and because He is greater than the storm. And our praise can begin with lament—I’m thankful for that.
I wanted to pop in and let you all know that the surgeon said my friend Terri’s surgery went very well, she is in recovery. Thank you to those who have been faithfully in prayer for her.
I have a rare weekend off, Bill and I will be spending a weekend away.
I am sorry I have been so weak here lately, I love and appreciate you girls.
Praise God for the good news Chris!! Enjoy your weekend!
Thank you Joyce, I loved the dove story you shared, I have thought about it as I watch the doves in my yard.
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Yeah!…such good news…I will continue to pray…thanks for the update, Chris.
Enjoy your well deserved weekend off and time away with Bill…rest, relax, refresh and have fun!
One of my favorite books is Elizabeth Prentiss’ Stepping Heavenward. I haven’t read in almost 10 years–but I came across this quote and thought it fit with focus on the “bigger picture” of His Plan. It’s reminded me I really want to re-read it (once I can unpack my books!)
“But you will imagine that it is best that He should at once enable you to see clearly. If it is, you may be sure He will do it. He never makes mistakes. But He often deals far differently with His disciples. He lets them grope their way in the dark until they fully learn how blind they are, how helpless, how absolutely in need of Him. What His methods will be with you I cannot foretell. But you may be sure that He never works in an arbitrary way. He has a reason for everything He does. You may not understand why He leads you now in this way and now in that, but you may, nay, you must believe that perfection is stamped on His every act.”
Thanks, elizabeth. LOVE that quote. And I haven’t read the book…Another one for the list.
Renee–I have a short list of favorites–but this is on it. It’s old (1869), but I believe still in print–and actually, I just found it free online: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2515
WOW! Thanks, elizabeth!
Thank you for the link Elizabeth. I am eager to start reading this. I found an illustrated kindle edition for only $2.99. I also posted http://www.Gutenburg.org to my facebook so others will know about the 40,00 free ebooks that can be gotten there.
Great quote, elizabeth. Wish I could read the book but “so many books, so little time”. I just can’t add any more books to my to do list at this time.
“But you may be sure that He never works in an arbitrary way. He has a reason for everything He does. You may not understand why He leads you now in this way and now in that, but you may, nay, you must believe that perfection is stamped on His every act.”
Thanks Elizabeth…I needed to hear that.
Perfect!
Dee can you let Mellany know that she is missed?
Thank you!
I’ve been thinking of her too….and of Cyndi~
and Julie P. too…
Julie is on facebook…so I know she alive!
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
*Do not worry* We are to pray and petition God in everything. Be thankful IN all things, maybe not necessarily FOR all things. I think this little bit of wording is important and it helps me when it comes to those things that I just can’t find a way in my mind to be thankful for, like the loss of a loved one. I may not be able to be thankful for that thing but I can find things to be thankful for in it.
12. What is the promise at the close of this passage? Have you experienced this peace? If so, share.
Peace. Yes, I experience it daily. I used to live with anxiety. I kept it at bay, buried under the surface of my mind. It would surface and I would push it down as much as I could. It still comes to me at times but I deal with it differently. I remember God and His love for me, His promises, His power and the wonderful things He has done already.
My own insufficiency and sin is an anxiety source in my life but when it surfaces I pray for His forgiveness and strength. Sometimes I have to actively remind myself that He will do this for me and move into thanksgiving that way.
None of this is perfected in me. It is more like a path I am walking than a done thing.
8. In Philippians 4:4, what are we told to do? Why can we rejoice in Him even when times are hard?
9. What are we told to do in Philippians 4:5, and why?
(I accidentally mixed questions 8 and 9 together, so here goes my compilation…)
*be full of joy
*rejoice
*be considerate in all you do
*keep in mind Jesus’ return
We can rejoice in Him even in hard times because Jesus has secured our salvation, our eternal well-being. Jesus suffered unspeakable physical, emotional and spiritual pain…He conquered evil once and for all. The hardships and evils we might suffer in this world are “temporary”…they will not survive eternity-wise. Jesus IS coming…He is going to return; He will transform and restore; evil and hardships will exist no more.
10 What is the main point of 1 Corinthians 7:25-31? How could this help you in both good times and bad times?
Don’t get attached to this world; the “world as we know it will soon pass away.”
This can help me in good and bad times in remembering the temporariness of this world…”good” or “bad” world experiences are still only “temporary”.
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
*pray about everything
*tell God what I need
*thank God for all He has done
12. What is the promise at the close of this passage?
“you will experience God’s peace…His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.”
Have you experienced this peace? If so, share.
My daughter had a court appointment related to my granddaughter’s custody, placement, and support (anxiety!)…the appearance resulted in an order for mediation (anxiety!)…both parents are to provide a parenting plan by a specified date which will be used in mediation (anxiety!)…if mediation comes to an impasse a legal process commences (anxiety!!) Many anxious thoughts of late…I keep a copy of Philippians 4:6-8 in my purse always; I don’t have the text memorized word for word, but do have the gist of verses 6-7; I remind myself to pray and give thanks when anxious thoughts assail me. Praise God, I have experienced calm at times that normally I would be “churning in my guts’ with nervousness and anxiety (one being at my daughter’s recent court appearance/appointment…I accompanied her). In this circumstance, I experienced a calm that I can only attribute to the Lord…a His bestowing of His peace.
I hate to ask, but if you would be willing to pray for my daughter and her ex-boyfriend (granddaughter’s father), I would be grateful. I am praying that decisions made will keep my granddaughter’s best interest and well-being in the fore-front.
I will certainly pray Nancy, that is weighty.
I’m praying for them and you, Nanci. Thanks for your specific and SO good application of vs 6-7.
Father, we lift up Nanci’s dear granddaughter, and the parents to Your gracious hand. Lord, we ask that You would govern over all the decisions made and that You would bind the enemy. Protect this child, Lord–You know the plans You have for her, plans made before time. We pray Your loving hand be over her. May You be glorified through all of this pain, and we pray that hearts would turn to You through it. Thank You, Lord. Amen
Will continue the prayers Nanci–thank you for letting us know.
Of course — this is huge. I agree with Elizabeth’s and Laura-dancer’s good prayers.
Dearest Jesus, we thank you for being close to us in times of desperate circumstances. When you are with us we can accomplish anything. Thank you. Lord, you already know what will transpire for this family. We know you have a hand on the situation. Sometimes we, as humans, need a small reminder that You are in charge; we falter in our faith. Thank you for Nanci remembering you are in control; that she doesn’t need to do anything but believe in the best situation as per your hand. Thank you for giving us verses to remind us. Let peace surround this family. Help Nanci’s daughter write a parental plan that is complete and thoughtful. Help Nanci and her daughter remain calm and know you are there. Help both father and mother know their place in the child’s life and realize both parents are necessary to give the child what she needs to grow. Thank you Jesus for your guidance, Amen.
Thank you, gals…so very much appreciated!
I’ll be praying also Nanci.
Thanks Joyce.
Ann Voskamp had a wonderful (and oh so fitting for me) blog post by Mark Buchanan; thought I would share the link…http://www.aholyexperience.com/2013/07/what-to-do-when-you-may-or-may-not-be-a-control-freak/
Thank you for that Nanci
ANOTHER KISS FROM THE KING – AMAZING!
My goal for the year was to pray for my children each day. I have met the goal most days but have also faltered many times. I prayed yesterday for them, however. For Sarah, I prayed thanking him for this sweet time together and that if it was God’s will for her to move to NY and begin school she would find a kind roomate, and the housing situation would just fall into place no problem. The school has a realtor and she had not sent any information to date about rentals. We have no idea what the area is like and, you can imagine, with Sarah, how I could be anxious about where she will live. It is not in the “City,” but in a busy burrough close enough.
A couple of hours later, I was visiting my mom and got an email with a rental house available and 2 roommates who want to be roomates with Sarah! They all are beginning school in September at the same school as Sarah! the agent called me and said she had talked to one of the girls who works at a restaurant that is transferring her and could maybe get Sarah a job as well! I can’t believe this kiss and I shared it with Sarah! She is learning about trusting God by watching me carefully. She asked me questions after I told her God answered my prayer about her living arrangements. Praise God! We have come such a LONG way in the past few years 🙂 thank you Jesus!
LOVE this Laura-dancer! So cool for Sarah to get to watch you pray for her needs–and God meet and exceed them! wow 🙂
Wow laura-Dancer! Thanks for sharing-so wonderful for Sarah to see God loving her so- This is SO encouraging!
So great, Laura-dancer!
Can’t believe the change in Sarah! I’m so thankful and it could only be through God!
9. What are we told to do in Philippians 4:5, and why?
“Let your reasonableness be known to everyone.” Because “The Lord is at hand;”
10 What is the main point of 1 Corinthians 7:25-31? How could this help you in both good times and bad times?
Our time here is a slither compared to Eternity.
v. 26, 29: “… in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is…This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short.”
11. According to Philippians 4:6-7, what are we to do when we are anxious? Find everything you can.
1st Command: do not be anxious about ANYTHING (like “always” in vs. 4—I am without excuses).
2nd Command: pray about everything—with thankfulness for Who He is, and all He has done. Thankful that He hears me—I am not too small to Him. Thankful that he has “it”—whatever my concerns are, He holds it in His righteous hand. Thankful that He is a God who sees. Thankful He has forgiven me, He has saved me. And He has allowed me to come into His presence.
Receive His gift: THEN, after I have turned away my worries, and turned to the Lord in prayer—then He covers me with His peace. A peace that doesn’t make sense. A peace the world can never offer. A peace that guards my heart and my mind from doubting His goodness and turning again to fear.
Just wanted to let people know that I probably won’t be able to post much for the next little while. My hubby’s computer died so now he is using my computer as his work computer. Not sure how much I can be “on”.
Also, please pray for Krista. She has a court date on next Wednesday morning. We are not sure if it is a preliminary date or THE court date but, nonetheless, please pray that we will be calm and that God’s will be done. We will try to get more information from her lawyer on Monday.
Diane–have next wed. written down to pray! Let us know when you can how it goes. Much love to you all~
It is the preliminary stuff, but nevertheless definitely need the prayers, thanks!
I’ll be praying Diane and Krista.
Diane, you got it-praying for Krista!
I will continue to pray for Krista and will mark the 24th on my calendar.
Sermon Overview
Paul provides a principle and a 3-fold method for practice.
Principle for dealing with pressure, stress, turbulence, change: Use big truth in little places.
-See those things in context of whole sweep of eternity.
-Use cosmic truth on mundane circumstances.
-The Bible always starts with the big picture, never starts with the method.
Big picture is “our citizenship is in heaven” (Phil 3:20). That is how we stand firm in the Lord. When we see everything changing, deep down inside we know we are built for a place where things last. In his presence, things don’t just stay the same, they get stronger, newer, fresher, brighter — not just love lasts, everything becomes eternally new.
Paul deals with the mundane by putting it in the context of redemptive history. He applies the principle to the quarrel between E & S. Paul isn’t saying they/we must agree, but to remember what we have in common.
Start with the right end of the stick (start with big pic, not the method). Start with “Is Christianity true” not with where to find stability.
The Method: Disciplines of
1. Prayer: re-sees circumstances through the wisdom of God
Pray with thanks; thank him for all possible responses ahead of time (Rom 8:28)
John Newton: everything that God lets through must be necessary; everything God doesn’t let through couldn’t be necessary.
It was hard at the moment to see the good of the cross; the disciples ran away.
(Example of 4 yo) Until we treat ourselves as children, we will never deal with the stresses of life.
2. Moderation: decenters circumstances through the grace of God.
Moderation = radical evenness of temper
Newton: makes worst times bearable and best times leave-able (?). This is not my main thing. Rejoice because your names are written in book of life (said by Jesus and Paul)
3. Presence of God: overwhelms circumstances with the peace of God
v. 9 Not enough to seek the peace of God; seek the God of peace. Peace of God marches around like an army, guarding you.
Thoughts: For a couple weeks, I’ve been encouraged to consider the Big Truth, to recognize God’s wisdom. But in this mess (which has felt big, but is very small in God’s big picture), I haven’t treated myself as a child, trusting my loving Father, until earlier this week when I reached the end of my rope.
Going to Him in tears, not knowing what to do, I finally experienced a peace that has lasted. I haven’t had that “radical evenness of temper” during the last couple of months. As the stresses kept building, I wanted to quit. But now I see how limited my perspective was. MY NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE. Even when work is bad, my moods don’t have to go down with it. My name is written in the Book of Life— THAT is good ALL THE TIME!
I have experienced the order of the principle and the steps in the method. Parts of the “principle” have been shared with me from several directions, including a friend, an administrator at work, church, and here — and even then, I had to be almost desperate to get to that child-like state to trust my loving Father and let His love and peace sink in. I was TRYING SO HARD to do what is right that I was slow to recognize that His peace will guard and protect me in the worst situations.
OH RENEE! I have purchased the sermon but not had a chance to listen yet. Your notes–are a beautiful, timely gift to me right now. OH how I needed these truths at this very moment. His peace. LOVED your thoughts “Going to Him in tears, not knowing what to do, I finally experienced a peace that has lasted.” This is beautiful–thank you so much for typing your notes out and posting.
Thank YOU, for your encouragement, elizabeth!
Renee and Elizabeth-me too..haven’t had a chance to listen- been a crazy weekend so far, but Renee’s notes make me want to hurry up and listen! Thankful I can listen on my phone while cleaning today.
Renee — so thankful for the way He spoke to you and the peace He is giving you. Wow. You certainly are pressing in.
Read this today from Tullian Tchividjian “Is Your Life Defined by a Ladder or a Cross?” http://liberatenet.org/2013/07/18/is-your-life-defined-by-a-ladder-or-a-cross/
He says: “Do you read the Bible as a helpful tool in your climb up toward moral betterment or as the story of God coming down to broken, sinful people? In a very real way, our lives are defined by how we answer that question. Specifically, our lives are defined either by a cross or by a ladder. The ladder symbolizes our ascension—our effort to “go up.” The cross symbolizes God’s descension—his coming down….God is not at the top of a ladder shouting, “Climb.” He is at the bottom on a cross whispering, “It is finished.”
WOW! Powerful; it’s so simple/understandable. Good to remind myself of this every time I see a ladder or stairs.
Elizabeth-thanks for this quote-so true! Snatching this one now- 🙂
Thanks for sharing this, Elizabeth…an excellent reminder…
“our lives are defined either by a cross or by a ladder. The ladder symbolizes our ascension—our effort to “go up.” The cross symbolizes God’s descension—his coming down….God is not at the top of a ladder shouting, “Climb.” He is at the bottom on a cross whispering, “It is finished.”
Can’t wait to read it Elizabeth!
Keller Sermon Peace in Church and Heart
13. Share your notes and thoughts.
*”internal stabilizers” are disciplines of thought that keep one stable in “turbulent waters”…the greater the turbulence, the stronger those internal stabilizers need to be.
*In this world nothing lasts (e.g. death, moving away, change), but in the presence of the Lord, everything gets continually newer, stronger, fresher, brighter
(“I make all things new” ~Revelation 21:5)
*Remember where you have come from, remember where you are going, remember what Jesus went through for us…if your mind is filled with these remembrances, how can one be petty or divisive?
(re: Phil 4:2) Paul doesn’t say the ladies must “agree” in their differences, but to agree what they have in common in Christ, to see the big picture, to lift up their thoughts (how can one be petty or divisive then?).
*There is no peace without truth…we must settle the big issues (i.e., is Christianity true?…is the gospel true?)
*Principle must be addressed prior to methods…the bible does this, but most seminars, books, etc. skip “principle” and move directly to “method(s)”. Paul provides the principle: to lift up our thoughts…look at the big picture (Phil 4:4-5…”Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! … The Lord is near.”)
*Paul provides three disciplines to apply truth to circumstance(s) in Philippians 4:6-7:
1. Prayer: receive circumstances through the wisdom of God.
*pray with thanks
*make petitions with thanks…thank God for all possible range of responses.
*apply wise love of God…envision all possibilities and thank God in advance (Rom. 8:28…all things work together for good for those who love God…i.e., God is sovereign; God has a plan designed to build me up or grow me. “All things that God lets through must be necessary; everything He doesn’t let through couldn’t be necessary because of His wise love.” ~John Wesley)
*Keller gives the analogy of a four-year old to the world and us to God’s world
We lack the capacity to comprehend or understand…it wouldn’t make sense if it ALL made sense…God is the Creator, we are the created, e.g. all sorts of things cannot be explained to a four-year old…much pain and suffering is inexplicable to us.
*The disciples could not stand before Jesus’ cross, they could not comprehend what good could come out of it…unlike them, we must stand before “our cross,” despite being unsure of what good the Lord will bring, trusting that as with Jesus’ crucifixion, what looks like the worst isn’t. With prayer we thank God ahead of time for the good He is bringing through “our cross”.
*Jesus said that all those who desire to enter the kingdom of God must become like a little child…am I a “little child” in the sense that I can’t see and understand everything?, OR am I a “little child” who stomps on the floor in temper-tantrums?
2. Moderation: decenters your circumstance by the grace of God.
*Decenter all circumstances through the discipline of holy moderation…i.e., radical evenness of temper.
*”God’s grace makes the worst times bearable and the best times leave-able” ~John Newton
*Use the grace of God on your heart. How?…rejoice….rejoice every day, every moment, in every circumstance because my name is written in heaven. Don’t forget my standing…don’t forget what Jesus has done for me…Jesus is my Savior, my High Priest.
3. Presence of God: overwhelms circumstances with the peace of God.
*seek God and His presence…ultimate peace.
So many good notes — love the John Newton quote.
It was a wonderful sermon and so very timely.
FYI…I re-listened to the sermon this morning and noticed that I misquoted Keller, it was not John “Wesley” Keller quoted in the “apply wise love of God…” item, it was John “Newton”. Also, under item “1. Prayer”, Keller said that we should “re-see” (not “receive”) circumstances through the wisdom of God.
I know I don’t know any of you yet but I was wondering if you would keep my husband and me in your prayers? He is at the doctor today because his knees and ankles are swollen. He has tingling in his feet and he said his veins are weird looking and there is some weird bubbling under his skin or something. He has been over-exercising for months and months and under eating as well. The are many more things that he is dealing with but we just need prayers. Prayers that the doctors would know what’s wrong, prayers that God would continue open my hubby’s eyes and give him wisdom. Also prayers for me to have strength to deal with this. I am dealing with loneliness and possibly the blues because I have no real close friends that I can talk to so I’m kind of an emotional wreck and need to be strong for everyone it seems, my hubby and kids.
Thank you.
Oh Caitlin–PRAYING RIGHT NOW! So sorry for all of this. Praying for the doctors to have great wisdom and can quickly identify and remedy the problem. And for you–praying for His love and comfort to wash over you–the peace that transcends our understanding. Praying for a lift of the clouds for your heart, and for strength. Please know that we are so thankful you have shared your request, and you will be prayed for! So glad you are here with us Caitlin–keep us posted.
Caitlin, I echo Elizabeth…I too am praying and will continue to. Thanks for sharing your prayer request…we are all sisters in Christ and someday will see each other face-to-face.
Caitlin, I’m praying for you and your husband right now.
Caitlin…prayed already…but will continue. Please keep us updated!
Praying for your family Caitlin. So sorry to you are having to hold everyone up right now; that is tough. God seems to have given us the knack for being able to multitask like that! I was just talking to a friend about that yesterday. Will pray the doctors are knowledgeable and can identify the issue with your husband. Will also pray for your feeling alone. We are a good group to be with for that 🙂
15. What is your take-a-way and why?
These were pivotal thoughts and actions for me this past week…
*God tells His story through history”…acts of history are God’s “words” and providence His “storyline”…the “storyline” of everything (because “all” is part of God’s story) is God’s wisdom, care, and guidance.
When anxious…
*pray…apply the wise love of God…envision all possibilities and thank God in advance
(Rom. 8:28…all things work together for good for those who love God…i.e., God is sovereign; God has a plan designed to build me up or grow me. “All things that God lets through must be necessary; everything He doesn’t let through couldn’t be necessary because of His wise love.” ~John Wesley)
*Rejoice every day, every moment, in every circumstance because my name is written in heaven. Don’t forget my standing…don’t forget what Jesus has done for me…Jesus is my Savior, my High Priest.
*seek the God of peace
Prior to Keller’s sermon, when anxious, I “prayed” with “thanksgiving” by thanking God for the many blessings He bestowed related to the situation causing anxiety, but not for all the possible responses to the situation. The method of giving thanks for all possible responses in prayer has been a shift for me…a good shift; I will never pray Phil. 4:6 the same ever again. I am once again reminded (and at peace knowing) that God is in control; He knows how all will work together for good regardless of my comprehension (the 4 year old analogy was another really good reminder…much pain and suffering is inexplicable to us.). I have sensed the Lord nudging me “to trust Him”. This past week’s study was very timely for my present life circumstances and aided in my awareness of some lack of trust on my part (sneaky control idol rearing it’s ugly head).
Thank you for all our prayers! My hubby had the appointment and it looks like edema which isn’t horrible but just needs to keep an eye on things but we are waiting for lab results about some tests they did that are causing him some anxiety. But we had a really good day as a family and my hub is getting some answers to prayer regarding some other personal issues and this medical issue was an eye opener for him so praise The Lord! I feel a little better emotionally and it helped knowing that even though I don’t know any of you personally we are sisters in Christ and knowing you all were praying helped me not feel so lonely. So thanks again!