I used to think of the gospel as the baby steps into Christianity.
I was wrong. It isn’t just the baby steps.
It is all of the steps.
It is every step for every day.
It isn’t just for the future.
It is for the here and now.
This is a new way of seeing.
And so I am inviting you to a different kind of study.
We are going to look at Philippians, but it will be through the lens
of the gospel for the here and now.
God has blessed us with a precious fellowship here — one I never imagined was possible through the internet. When Paul tells the Philippians that he thanks God every time he remembers them, he is remembering “their partnership in the gospel.” I feel that way about you who have come on this blog. We are rediscovering the gospel together and it is changing our lives.
I have come to realize that God has given us the privilege of being a part of a revival of recovering the gospel. Indeed, we are “partners in the gospel.”
RECOVERING THE GOSPEL TOGETHER
Our tendency is to forget the gospel — to forget God’s amazing love — and to go back to:
- Rules
- Religion
- Morality
- Idolatry
Instead of saying, as Paul did, “For me to live is Christ,” we think:
- For me to live is family
- For me to live is health
- For me to live is happiness
- For me to live is success
The gospel keeps slipping out of our hands, but together we are recovering it.
Every once in a while you meet someone with a gospel-transformed heart — and they stand out. Most people and even many in the church are “seeking their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.” (Philippians 2:21) But I have seen gospel transformed hearts here, and I pray that “our love may abound more and more,” and that as we practice this new way of seeing, of seeing the gospel everywhere, that we will be changed, that we will be “filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ.” (Philippians 1:11)
Before we begin, it is so fitting to give a tribute to two men who stood out for their gospel transformed hearts and who died this week. You will hear, in their own words, what transformed them.
THE GOSPEL TRANFORMED HEART OF BRENNAN MANNING
CHRISTIANITY TODAY began their remembrance with:
The first time the late singer-songwriter Rich Mullins heard former Franciscan priest Brennan Manning on tape as he drove through the edge of the Flint Hills in Kansas, his eyes filled with tears. He steered the truck to the side of the road. There, as he later wrote, the message “broke the power of mere ‘moralistic religiosity’ in my life, and revived a deeper acceptance that had long ago withered in me.”
DURING ADVENT ONE OF THE POSTS FEATURED MANNING’S RAGAMUFFIN GOSPEL. (LINK)
LISTEN TO BRENNAN MANNING SHARING “THE ONE QUESTION” THAT GOD WILL ASK YOU AT HEAVEN’S GATE (under four minutes)
THE GOSPEL TRANSFORMED HEART OF GEORGE BEVERLY SHEA
Before he sings this song with which we have come to associate him, he tells how it came to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9f8zhTwIg
SUNDAY/MONDAY ICE-BREAKERS
1. What stood out to you from the above and why?
2. Have you read anything by Brennan Manning? If so, share something about it — or something else you know about him that has caused you to ponder or change.
3. Have you studied Philippians before — and if so, do you have a favorite verse? (If you have been with us for a while and are beginning to “get” the breadth of the gospel, does it give you any new light on that favorite verse?)
MONDAY-WEDNESDAY BIBLE STUDY:
THE UNIQUE FELLOWSHIP OF PARTNERS IN THE GOSPEL
Read Philippians 1:1-11
4. From whom does this letter come, according to verse 1, and how does Paul describe their identity?
Paul felt “knit,” to Timothy, as many of us are feeling “knit” to one another. He calls him, elsewhere, “my son in the faith.” When you see how the truths of the gospel that you have shared have the power to transform a heart, and what you are seeing is being passed on to another, there is a feeling akin to giving birth to a child. As I have many of you grow, my heart is knit to you. Then, in turn, I see you mentoring and encouraging one another, as the Spirit moves, giving us this incredible partnership in the gospel. This is a fellowship like no other. Zechariah, in his song of praise when his tongue was loosed, called Jesus “the sunrise from on high.” The power of the gospel spreading through our hearts is like the rising sun, giving light and warmth throughout the land.
5. Compare this fellowship to the fellowship you have with those who share a common interest such as work, children, or gardening — how does this fellowship differ? Contemplate.
6. Learn more about why Paul was so knit to Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21. Meditate on these words. Then answer this challenge question: Why does a gospel-transformed heart lead to the kind of character Paul described in Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21?
Paul’s Prayer
7. How does Paul begin his prayer in verse 3? How could you echo that for your sisters here?
8. What is Paul sure of in verse 6, and why can He be sure of this?
9. In a past lesson, Tim Keller said if you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. For those who were with us (or who want to attempt an answer!) why did he say that?
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7?
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so.
YOU PUT THIS LOVE IN MY HEART
12. How much affection does Paul feel for them according to verse 8?
THE PRAYER
As Deitrich Bonhoeffer said, “It is a dangerous error to think the heart can pray by itself.” Scripture saturated prayer is the most powerful prayer in the world. Take verses 9 through 11 and pray it, here, for your sisters, as they begin this study on The Gospel According to Philippians.
THURSDAY-FRIDAY: FREE TIM KELLER SERMON
THE CHURCH PLANT AT PHILIPPI INCLUDED THREE NEW BELIEVERS: LYDIA, A WEALTHY CAREER WOMAN, A SLAVE GIRL WITH A SPIRIT OF “A PYTHON,” AND A SURLY JAILER.
Our fellowship crosses the lines of age, race, and socio-economic standing. The church in Philippi began with a wealthy woman, a girl that is akin to a child prostitute, and a rough and cruel jailer. God moved differently with each to use His gospel to bring them into His family.
Listen: Link
13. Share your notes here.
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
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15. What is your take-a-way and why?
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6. Learn more about why Paul was so knit to Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21. Meditate on these words. Then answer this challenge question: Why does a gospel-transformed heart lead to the kind of character Paul described in Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21?
Well, Timothy is described as always thinking of Jesus. It seems that some were more concerned with themselves than Christ. This is similar to idolatry, where we are focused on ourselves and our idol than what is truly important; Jesus Christ. He is reminding the Philippians that Timothy will be there to help them stay focused. Jesus is the Gospel. He saves.
1. What stood out to you from the above and why?
The Gospel according to Philippians – I am excited to read and study this book through a new set of eyes.
Brennan Manning – I think it was someone on this blog who said something like when a speaker is speaking and it becomes no longer them speaking but God…his words are so powerful that I hear God speaking through this man. I’ve watched this several times now. The one question, “Do you believe I loved you?” Sometimes when I perceive the blackness of my own heart, it seems almost like blasphemy to say out loud – but God, I believe that You love me. It seems impossible that He could. Manning also said, “But at the same time no one can measure like a believer the effectiveness of our gloom, pessimism, low self-esteem, self-hatred, and despair that block God’s way to us. You’re only going to be as big as your own concept of God.”
This quote reminded me of Tozer’s quote about what we think about God as being the most important thing about us. Oh – how bitterly effective is my gloom and despair at blocking my ability to perceive and receive God’s love for me.
What Manning says at the end, “I know your life story, your selfishness, your dishonesty, the skeletons in your closet…I DARE you to trust that I love you as you are, not as you should be because you are never going to be as you should be…” – this brought me to tears. I felt like he was speaking directly to me.
2. Have you read anything by Brennan Manning? If so, share something about it – or something else you know about him that has caused you to ponder or change.
No, I haven’t read any of Manning’s works, but based on what I’ve learned about him from this blog and some of you who have read Ragamuffin Gospel, I feel I want to get that book and start reading.
3. Have you studied Philippians before – and if so, do you have a favorite verse? (If you have been with us for a while and are beginning to “get” the breadth of the gospel, does it give you any new light on that favorite verse?)
Yes, I have studied Philippians before. I think the most well-known passage in it (for me) is 2:5-11. This passage is often held-up in a Bible study as Christ’s example for me to follow:
Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality
with God something to be grasped,
but made Himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself and became obedient to death –
even death on a cross! (verses 5-8)
I do see the Gospel in this passage but am interested to “get” the gospel in a way to see this differently – in my own strength I can never live-up to Jesus’ example and have His attitude, especially making myself “nothing”, being a servant, humble, obedient…how can the gospel enable me to live this way?
One verse I have circled in my bible is Philippians 3:10: “I want to KNOW Christ and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in His sufferings…”
I once had the privilege to hear Joe Stowell speak at my church several years ago, and he said that this word “know” in this verse means “to know by experience”. I want to know Him like that – by experience.
Stowell quote good. Like Jonathan Edwards — the difference between knowing honey is sweet and tasting it
Have missed you here Susan–always love your deep thoughts
Glad your here, Susan…missed you.
“I haven’t read any of Manning’s works, but based on what I’ve learned about him from this blog and some of you who have read Ragamuffin Gospel, I feel I want to get that book and start reading.”
Me too, Susan…mine arrived in the mail today!…:)
I’ve been doing the study and reading your responses. Could you please pray for me? I think I need a medication change, things aren’t looking very positive for me right now.
praying now Dawn–and will continue. So sorry-thanks for letting us know
Praying for you Dawn~
Praying!
Father, I pray for Dawn today…a sister whose head is hanging low, thank You for the fact that she is humbly seeking practical help…I ask You to give her wisdom and to provide the proper care that is needful and necessary at this moment. I hear her pain and the quiet cries contained within these sentences…Holy Spirit breath life into the darkness!
Praying for you, Dawn, as one who has been there and still visits. I appreciate the thoughts you share.
You are in my prayers, Dawn. Sorry to hear that things aren’t looking very positive for you currently…I’ll be praying for an up-turn.
Praying for you Dawn, that your doctor will make the right change in the medication for you, and for you to be encouraged.
Praying for you.
This spoke to my heart,from –Paul Miller, A Praying Life–“This is the gospel, the welcoming heart of God. God also cheers when we come to him with our wobbling, unsteady prayers. Jesus does not say, “Come to me, all you who have learned how to concentrate in prayer, whose minds no longer wander, and I will give you rest.’ No, Jesus opens his arms to his needy children and says, ‘Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest’ (Matthew 11:28 NASB). The criteria for coming to Jesus is weariness. Come overwhelmed with life. Come with your wandering mind. Come messy. ”
Love that quote, Elizabeth
How wonderful, Elizabeth!
Oh, good. That’s what I am doing. Coming messy as a needy child with my wobbling, unsteady prayers! Thanks, Elizabeth.
Diane–any job updates for Joel and Krista? The Lord continues to bring you all to mind
No jobs yet. They have applied to lots more places. Thanks for continuing to pray.
Oh Elizabeth this is so rich…simple, open, honest before God…we can complicate it so much…you lift burdens with you words sister!
Great quote, Elizabeth. My mind wanders so much lately when I’m praying. I’m constantly having to refocus. What a wonderful reminder that God loves and accepts our wobbling, unsteady prayers.
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7? They were suppportive of Paul when he was in prison, and he never stopped preaching and sharing the gospel. He says the Philippians “share in God’s grace with me.”
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so.
I have never been threatened by imprisonment such as Paul experienced. Perhaps none of you would call this adversity, but it is as close as I can come to responding to this question. A Christian educational leader once put out a plea for volunteers to help with the children’s program (about 25 children) during a regional assembly of our denomination. Assuming that she was putting together a “group” to do this task, I volunteered to “help.” When I arrived at the assembly, I quickly learned that no one else had volunteered, and I was expected to do this task ALONE!! Rachel, a close friend and a member of the church staff from my church, had traveled with me (planning to enjoy the adult programming). However, when she learned of my plight, she just jumped right in to work beside me, missing the entire program. Needless to say, Rachel remains near and dear to my heart!
12. How much affection does Paul feel for them according to verse 8?
A very deep affection. I am sure it took a lot for Paul to establish this church in Phillipi in the first place, and then after he left, he continued to “blow on the embers” to keep it going. Paul had such a longing to see the Christians at Philippi. My Life Application Bible commentary says, “His love and affection for them was based not only on past experiences , but also on the unity that comes when believers draw upon Christ’s love.”
Love the Rachael story!
I’ve been in deep thought, since I listened to this speech, and others by Brennan Manning (below)…..even when we were young and so much in love and our husband or spouse’s love and treasured us and would do almost anything for us….God loves us much, much more than that, or any love we could ever imagine. Jesus loves and desires us so much that he would rather die than be without us. I honesty can’t understand this and wonder if in our infinite minds…if we are even capable of realizing this kind of love. I think if I could really believe this, my life would be changed…but I honestly can’t even fathom this kind of love. Can any of you? Have you ever been loved in such a way, that it resembles God’s love for us? How or what can I do to come even close to comprehending this love of God? No human is possible to give this unconditional love…not even to our helpless, precious, babies at our breast. It is mind boggling.
http://youtu.be/FKSofu9YlyQ
Truly deep thoughts, Joyce. I am so glad you are finding comfort and challenge from Brennan Manning online. I hope to listen to this soon.
Joyce—thank you. Your slowing down to ponder caused me to, and let my heart be stirred by Him–thank you.
“I’ve been in deep thought”…that you have, Joyce!!! It is hard for me to fathom too!!! I’m with you!
Love this and ready to jump in though it is WED!!! Argh! But wanted to say during the summer my church is going to do Idol Lies with the women!!! So excited and wanted to share. 🙂
Jump in, Jump in!!! 🙂
Oh Angela, that is beautiful!! By chance is your discipleship pastor’s name Aaron?? He just bought some Idol Lies books from us in bulk along with a teaching DVD so I was just wondering! I am so happy for you all!
Yes Rebecca! That was him I would guess for that is his name! So excited to do this with the ladies! The men will be doing a separate men’s study this summer on Sunday nights while the women do this one….since it is a normal church time I hope more women come than if they had to go to a different time of the week. Excited to see many break free. Praying!
Will be praying for you Angela — that’s exciting!
What a powerful sermon. I could not take notes while I listened, but this is what stood out to me. The Gospel is for everyone. It was so interesting that he said Paul would have previously prayed “God, I thank you that I am not a woman, a slave, or a Gentile”—yet those were the ones God used Paul to share the Gospel to. The power for the salvation of all who believe. He paid it all so that we might inherit all.
I just had a lengthy paragraph here but decided to delete it—but the point was this: we have spent the first 10 years parenting using all kinds of behavior/performance-driven rewards. We never stick with anything very long because the motivation always wears off. I’m convicted of this. I want my children’s motivation for obedience—of God and us, to be primarily out of love. There are times for discipline and times for praise—but I am more than ever looking for in my children a heart that loves Him. Not perfect behavior, but humility—able to admit weakness, confess, repent. I know I’ve rambled off-topic, but that’s just it—I have read countless parenting books and blog, searching for ‘the answer’ to my issues. But these years of Dee’s teaching, of Keller’s sermons—I see more and more and more the Gospel IS the answer to every problem.
9. Re: Tim Keller’s sermon on the fruit of the Spirit. If you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. Why did he say that?
I was able to listen to that sermon again today and if I understand this, it seems that the fruit of the Spirit (singular) shows the unity of these traits. If you are loving but lack patience, are you really loving? If you appear peaceful but lack kindness, how sincere is that peace? They are all interconnected. This is so challenging but it takes away the excuses of being pretty good at a few of them but not so good at a couple. These are character qualities of Christ and we can’t just pretend to have them or be content with being strong in only a few areas.
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when theya re facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7? I am having trouble with this one. My Bible reads, “whether I am in chains or defending and confirming the gospel, all of you share in God’s grace with me”. (NIV). So what does sharing in God’s grace mean? How does this show they are standing beside Paul in his trials? Thanks for your help.
Jill, I had to read up on that too…(and anybody feel free to correct me if this is off the mark) but I understood it to mean that they stood with him in pronouncing God’s favor and blessing upon him…perused a few commentaries on that…and that was one idea…anybody else?
Thanks Rhonda!
SUNDAY/MONDAY ICE-BREAKERS
1. What stood out to you from the above and why?- I’m getting a late start so hopefully I can get caught up or at least do part of this study. I love how you say Dee that we are “partners in the gospel”. It is so nice to be able to have other Christians that you can come to and see another view of a scripture. A view that may be able to help unpack the meaning in a whole new way. I also loved listening to Brennan Manning. I loved what he had to say in just the short 4 minutes and wished I could have heard more of him.
2. Have you read anything by Brennan Manning? If so, share something about it — or something else you know about him that has caused you to ponder or change. – I have not read any of Brennan’s books but would love to know some of the titles you all have read and liked.
3. Have you studied Philippians before — and if so, do you have a favorite verse? (If you have been with us for a while and are beginning to “get” the breadth of the gospel, does it give you any new light on that favorite verse?) – One of my small groups is currently studying The Wiersbe Bible Study Series of Philippians and the verse I really like so far is from chapter 1 – (It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice,) (Philippians 1:15-18 NIV). To me this is kind of funny and I guess I never really thought about it before but even though the Bible, Jesus and God are being talked about in a negative way, those people are at least speaking about them. So maybe by them doing that they will start to wonder themselves the REAL truth of Jesus. So like Paul says we can rejoice about this.
I’ve pondered that verse too, Julie. And its applications. Will write about it some next week.
Read Philippians 1:1-11
4. From whom does this letter come, according to verse 1, and how does Paul describe their identity? – It is coming from Paul & Timothy and they are servants of Christ Jesus.
5. Compare this fellowship to the fellowship you have with those who share a common interest such as work, children, or gardening — how does this fellowship differ? Contemplate. – The fellowship among Christians or even all the ladies on this bible blog is just so much more refreshing and alive. The other is just a nice conversation, but to have fellowship with other Ladies of Faith is so much more meaningful. We are able to lift each other up in a time of need, or just silently pray for them as the need comes up. When there is so much God Love it brings me that much closer to God myself. You just want to keep getting more and more of it.
13. Share your notes here.
The Gospel is for everyone and it is a unifer. God moves in everyone’s life differently in bringing them to Him and we need to see that it isn’t the same with everyone. Lydia made a decision through rational discourse, The slave girl was demon possessed and socially oppressed. She was reached through a power encounter and she was liberated by His Gospel both psychologically and socially. The jailer was indifferent to the Gospel and was reached by Paul and Silas showing him the Gospel. He hadn’t seen anything like them-singing hymns and praising God after being flogged almost to the point of death and having torturous shackles on their feet and then when the earthquake happened and they could go free they didn’t, they held back all the prisoners for the sake of the jailer for he was going to kill himself. He fell on his knees and asked what or who is this in you-whatever it is I want it.
I love the three totally different approaches here in sharing the Gospel-rational, power encounter, and showing the Gospel through a Gospel changed life. This is what I need to meditate on more-There are the three types everywhere and especially so in the kitchens I work in. My flesh can bend to not wanting to be around the ones who can be relationally cold, but His spirit in me moves me for them. I don’t like 1 size fits all in sharing the Gospel because it lacks Love. The truth is if I have a Gospel transformed life I will be thinking of others more than myself and be looking out for their spiritual interests above my comfort. I so needed to hear this sermon today as I go to sub in a kitchen. There are wonderful ladies there and I do see these three types-and I need to have my eyes on Him.
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
God was moving to woo me since I was a child. When I was single and went to a community college I had to take a class that was centered around Zig Ziglar and positive attitude in business. The teacher was a believer-now that I look back I know he was. He asked us a question-do you believe in heaven and hell? I raised my hand, being the elitist of the bunch in my mind at least, and said-“how do we know? has anyone here died and come back?” Then a believer who sat across the room raised her hand and said, “I believe in heaven and hell because God says it in the Bible.” I remember my teacher radiated His love to us but this girl, bless her heart, was afraid of me. 🙂 I smoked cigarettes back then for a brief and stupid time in my life, and would take a smoke break in between classes. I remember saying, “Hi” to her as she walked by and she kindly smiled back but would never engage with me, but honestly I think that was God because it wasn’t His timing yet-HE IS SOVEREIGNLY in control of each encounter we have with unbelievers! God really heated it up in wooing me in as the time drew near with my brother who LIVED the Gospel-kind of like the jailer and Paul. I saw his transformed life and knew this Love, this fruit I was seeing wasn’t from him but from God-believe me, my brother was sarcastic and mean toward me-but after knowing God he loved me.
So even in the opportunities I think I have missed I know that I may not have really missed them-because it wasn’t His timing in my life or theirs and especially now that He is transforming my heart I have found sharing the Gospel isn’t as stressful as it used to be for I don’t worry about rejection like I used to-and it isn’t centered on my ‘performance’ anymore- what i said right or didn’t say-but on HIM! He does the work, not me. How freeing is that! I really can’t explain it but it is fruit that flows from Him out of us. I have learned to wait for Him to open the doors, and I am learning now through Keller’s sermon to ask Him each day to help me take my mind off myself, my to do lists for the day and onto the people I encounter and help me seize or not seize opportunities to give of myself, my time to love, really listen to them, and share.
I love stories Rebecca and I was visualizing every aspect of yours…so interesting all the nuances you remember, every aspect is God infused, He is a story teller for sure! It is so funny how mysterious that whole process really is (even to us)…He truly has the pen in HIS hand!
And you are so right…in His rest, the pressure is off!
Rhonda, Isn’t He amazing? 🙂 I have to add though that sharing the Gospel just flows from us being filled with Him. I am not explaining it well I know but sharing the Gospel should flow our of our core in Him-as we love people God opens and shuts doors-not really something we plan or contrive. Something on my heart lately-that broke my heart was after church last Sunday when my son Isaac told me his teacher told the class if they don’t share the Gospel they are selfish. NOW, I am not sure HOW the teacher said it-Isaac has autism and can take something you say and make it sound real harsh. But I don’t like that that seed is being planted in His heart. He is only 12-and God has everyone’s heart in different places-especially pre-teens. Could you imagine Jesus dealing with Peter that way? Oh my..
Rebecca, what you are saying is so powerful! The Holy Spirit drives the flow…I can remember living under the weight of “soul winning” formulas….sooo…disconnected from the heart….the heart of the giver AND the heart of the receiver…
It is about outflow!
When God begins to enter into the conversations of life it becomes obvious to both giver and receiver. I think about passages like Acts 16:6, where it says…”Paul and his companions traveled throughout the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been kept by the Holy Spirit from preaching the word in the province of Asia”, this passage tells me that the Holy Spirit is in charge…red lights and green lights…our responsibility is to be ABIDING and LISTENING to His voice. He understands the placement of every heart and the secret motivations and the receptivity factors. I suppose it can look “SELFISH” if someone from the outside looking in doesn’t understand this fact. However, if we are listening to the Holy Spirit, He will help us to know when to act, speak, refrain from acting, refrain from speaking (Ecclesiastes 3)…When He tells us to abide it is because the life giving flow comes from that place. Anyone looking on without this understanding will probably have judgmental things to say….However, the gospel was delayed “in the province of Asia” and this was according to God’s perfect plan…so the question is…was Paul being “SELFISH”? Again is it about man’s approval or God’s? It is so hard to be misunderstood and judged for it! Unfortunately it happens way too often in the body of Christ! Perhaps because the understanding of the Holy Spirit (and His role) is so terribly lacking! And also because people have used the Holy Spirit and “His leading” in abusive, manipulative ways (so dangerous)…when this happens it is sad and detrimental to the Kingdom! But if our hearts are pure (again sweeping them)…we MUST walk by the Spirit even when misunderstood and misrepresented by mankind.
There is one thing I want to add to this post…in NO WAY am I saying that we don’t share the gospel! I just think the time and the way needs to be driven by the Holy Spirit! Paul was sensitive to God’s leading and I think (if we engage with people on a relational level)…we can pick up on HIS sensitivity and it is amazing what happens in that flow…just wanted to clarify in case this was in any way confusing!
Rebecca, I think the Lord was working on you then and always…loved your sharing that, thanks.
Joyce, yes He was-and I see Him in you and love to see your love for your sisters here. 🙂
7. How does Paul begin his prayer in verse 3? How could you echo that for your sisters here?
He thanks the Lord for the Philippians. I also thank the Lord for my sisters here, who pray and “listen” to my troubles. They are a comfort to me; a cheerleading squad; a strength in times I am low. Thank you sisters.
8. What is Paul sure of in verse 6, and why can He be sure of this?
He is sure of their faith, as they partnered with the disciples from the beginning. I’m not sure who initially told them of Jesus; was it Peter? I am a baby in the details. Paul says they were taught by someone, but doesn’t say who it was. Did Jesus actually visit them? Was it Paul himself?
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7?
The Philippians must have stood by Paul while he was in prison even though it might have been dangerous to them.
12. How much affection does Paul feel for them according to verse 8? Much affection, he longed for them with the desire of Christ…that is with a lot of desire because Christ loves us intensely to the point of death!
As Deitrich Bonhoeffer said, “It is a dangerous error to think the heart can pray by itself.” Scripture saturated prayer is the most powerful prayer in the world. Take verses 9 through 11 and pray it, here, for your sisters, as they begin this study on The Gospel According to Philippians
Father, I pray that the love and unity among this group would just go deeper and deeper. I pray that You will teach us and give us Your knowledge and Your great insight. Help us to be discerning and wise and keep us pure and help each of us to walk blamelessly as we await Your coming. I pray that we will each live righteously, abiding in You and from that place bear much fruit. All of this I pray (on behalf of my sisters) to You and to the great praise and glory of Your name!
1. What stood out to you from the above and why? Brennan manning! Love that video!
2. Have you read anything by Brennan Manning? If so, share something about it — or something else you know about him that has caused you to ponder or change.
No but I want to now!
3. Have you studied Philippians before — and if so, do you have a favorite verse? (If you have been with us for a while and are beginning to “get” the breadth of the gospel, does it give you any new light on that favorite verse?) yes in hard times of lacking joy it has been helpful! Love different aspects of prayers in it too! I pray many scriptures from it for people.
4. From whom does this letter come, according to verse 1, and how does Paul describe their identity?
To all the saints in Phillipi.
5. Compare this fellowship to the fellowship you have with those who share a common interest such as work, children, or gardening — how does this fellowship differ? Contemplate. Good question….it is just different. When I meet another believer it is so neat like automatically our hearts are knit together in joy that we both “get”. It is cool!
6. Learn more about why Paul was so knit to Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21. Meditate on these words. Then answer this challenge question: Why does a gospel-transformed heart lead to the kind of character Paul described in Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21? It is truly set in Christian love he has observed by how Timothy lives his life I am sure. I have some friends like this.
Take verses 9 through 11 and pray it, here, for your sisters, as they begin this study on The Gospel According to Philippians.
Dear Lord, we are trying to focus on you; to keep you in our site at all times. We realize it is a difficult process because we are human and we get distracted. Help us to help each other remember that Jesus is our Savior, He is all we need. Help us to dig deep into the scripture to know how to live our lives. This is so we can, as Paul says, “… be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ…” (Philippians 1:10 NIV) It is so we live to project the principles of Jesus, as Jesus left us here to do on earth amongst our friends and fellow men. It is so we have the “face of Jesus” even when we are slighted or hurt by others. Our goal is to make sure the Gospel is given to all, even if it is not accepted by all. We need to understand what is excepted of us, and THAT is given to us in the breathed word of God. Thank you Lord for the women on this blog who help each other comprehend the depth of your word. Amen.
7. I thank God when I think of you. I love this because I often smile when God brings one of you to mind!
8. What is Paul sure of in verse 6, and why can He be sure of this?becauseGod is faithful to His promises He will bring all His work including sanctifying work in those who are His to completion.
9. In a past lesson, Tim Keller said if you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. For those who were with us (or who want to attempt an answer!) why did he say that? Because all the components are part of a singular fruit. So you must have some of all to really have any.
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7? While he was in prison they did not turn away.
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so. My husband, though I was asked to tone my message of the gospel down and people were complaining of my teaching because they wanted worldliness over godliness he told me not to change and prayed and defended. That reflected on him as well and brought identical adversity.
Angela…sounds like your husband has a great grasp of reliance and responsibility…”he…prayed and defended”…wonderful testimony!
Angela, sweet to hear of you and your husband’s bond in Him-wow..and it breaks my heart this situation you were in, yet at the same time it was a beautiful opportunity.
This morning I experienced somewhat of a God-incidence! I was reading an article written by Guideposts writer, Camy Tang, in which she says: “…when I’m going through really tough times, transparency between me and my fellow Christians gives me comfort and support. When I am honest about my struggles and when those listening are honest about their own experiences, I’m greatly encouraged. That kind of vulnerability can be scary because I worry about people rejecting me or condemning me, but true believers deal with each other in love, and love casts out fear.”
I felt Camy Tang’s quote fit so nicely with what we are talking about this week. I frequently find that within a week’s period of time sources of inspiration repeat one another and support each other, to the point that it seems like the same message just keeps coming at me again and again. I tend to indentify that as the work of the Holy Spirit!
That’s good, Deanna!
I just love those little treasures God has for us…
Deanne, I feel the same way some times…so exciting!
Deanna,
Loved that quote-so true and so fitting! 🙂
Sermon notes:
I had to listen to the sermon twice — I think Keller talked faster in this sermon (or else I was moving slower!) As it is, I have five pages of handwritten notes. I won’t put them all here!!
Christianity was born in a culture as unsympathetic to its claims as ours.
The case for the truth of Christianity was made with such strength and people believed in it in such numbers that it literally changed all of society.
Acts has more case studies of conversions than anywhere else in the Bible. Luke chose these three case studies to show how different conversions can be, and how the message came to these people.
For Lydia it was the gospel for the religious
For the slave girl it was the gospel for the oppressed
For the jailer it was the gospel for the secular.
Lydia was converted through “rational discourse.” Paul and Silas met a group of women at the river who were Gentiles. A Gentile was one who was reading the Hebrew Bible and trying to understand it and obey. Paul asked them to tell him what they understood, and they told him about Abraham and Moses and the Law, also the sacrificial system to atone for failing the law which no one could perfectly keep. Paul said let me make sense of it all — Jesus came and fulfilled the law perfectly — He was the Lamb of God, and when he died on the cross he took on our curse. My curse was transferred to Him, and His blessing was transferred to me. This rational discourse clicked for Lydia.
Keller quoted C.S. Lewis saying, “When you hear a piece of music or see a beautiful sight…you grab a friend and praise it.” The more you praise it the more you enjoy it. After salvation, Lydia was obeying God because He is beautiful, not just because He is useful.
Religious people think “they know it,” but everyone else knows they can’t, because they are too grumpy or guilty, or too harsh on everyone else.
The slave girl was brought to Christ by a “power encounter” (when Paul cast out her demon).
She was liberated not only psychologically but also socially (she could no longer be exploited by her owners).
The jailer was confronted by the gospel in two ways: one was the joy of Paul and Silas despite the fact they were in jail and had been seriously beaten (flogged). They were singing hymns of praise at midnight. The second was because Paul and Silas repayed good for evil (they didn’t escape when the opportunity of the earthquake made it possible, because they knew the jailer would be executed, despite the fact that he had overseen their beating and imprisonment).
The Gospel is for everyone — there is no particular religious type that the gospel is more natural for. There is no more powerful unifying factor than the Gospel in the world. Jesus knows how to perfectly challenge us and adapt to us.
Deanna–I loved the CS Lewis quote too–and ‘obeying God because He is beautiful, not just because He is useful’
How I love to hear you have 5 pages of notes!
Dear sisters, I come here to say goodbye for I feel strongly I am to spend this time in another study. I want to say that I love all of you and count my time here as one of the greatest blessings of my life. I will stop in from time to time and will continue to pray for all of you.
I have received healing for my headaches and praise Him for this. Because of the headaches I pressed into God and the Word more than ever in my life and am now thankful for the beauty He brought out of it.
Love to you all. Kim T.
Oh, Kim. We will miss you. I am so glad that your headaches are healed and God used it to draw you to Himself. May God be with you and bless you and use you as you continue to walk with Him.
Kim, we will certainty miss you! But I am so thrilled to hear that the headaches are gone. God is so incredible and you walked beautifully in that painful process. I want to bless you with a parting prayer…Father, thank you for Kim, for in the short time I have known her she has added so much to this community with her gracious and thoughtful contributions. I know her pain has been great and yet she continued to focus her eyes upon You…thank You for that example and especially for Your healing touch. Bless her immensely in her new study, may she grow and grow and grow to know You more! Take care friend!
Rhonda, I pray along with your prayer for Kim and so thankful the Lord has healed you dear sister. Much love and prayers to you.
Blessings to you, Kim…I look forward to our paths crossing again. Take good care; so happy to hear that you are getting relief from those horrible headaches…I pray your relief continues.
Love to you Kim–and so thankful the headaches have passed
Sorry to hear you will be leaving, but at the same time excited for you that your headaches are gone and that you have pressed into God. I will pray for you for God to fill you with His wisdom via the Holy Spirit as you continue to spend time with Him in His word. Love to you.
Dear Kim,
How we love you! So important you follow God’s leading and you are always welcome here! You have been such a blessing to us. So thankful to hear about the headaches!
Love to you
Kim , I will miss you. Thank you for all your prayers over the years 🙂 I hope you benefit from your new study and please come back to see us sometime 🙂
Thank you sisters, I feel so blessed by your kindness.
Kim,
I am just seeing this – I will miss your presence here! Many “parting blessings” to you as you embark on new studies, and thankful to learn that healing has come to you!
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
I don’t remember a time when I did not know the presence of the Lord very close beside me. My earliest memories, 5 years old, my perception of God was not that different than it is now—all powerful, all knowing, just—and all loving. Truth + Grace. The more I watch my kids, raised basically the same, yet innately possess such incredibly different views of God, the more I realize the gift He gave me at such a young age—and that it is all Him. I did nothing–I would never love Him if He did not first love me.
I was thinking the other day about who most modeled Christ to me growing up—-my grandmother. There was a presence about her—she was never hurried. As I grew older I would show up at her house unannounced and I honestly do not remember a time that she did not stop everything, put down her needlepoint, turn off baseball—take one of my hands in hers and just let me feel as though she’d waited all day just for me. Her funeral was over 16 years ago—and it was said that my grandmother made all her grandchildren feel like they were the favorite (in my mind I thought, ‘but I really was!’) But that was her Christ-likeness—nothing was more important than taking the time to stop, listen…just listen, she did so much of that. And we really are all His favorites. Oh, I pray to learn more from her—and here I am spieling off topic again ;0
I love your spieling, Elizabeth…I had a grandma just like that!
Elizabeth,
I love this story about your Grandmother-and love how God wooed you as a child giving you a desire to pursue Him and love him back.
Oh, you are not spieling off topic…so beautiful! Sounds like you have a Timothy story…a real life “Lois”..! 🙂
GOOD NEWS…Jay is stable and got off the ventilator just today. It was so very cool…G’ma messaged me to pray just prior to the ventilator being removed and then later messaged a picture of Jay…:) Such good news…thank you all for your prayers.
6. Why does a gospel-transformed heart lead to the kind of character Paul described in Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21?
When one is completely assure of God’s love, His sovereignty, and redemptive mercy, the self-focus/self-preservation falls away and is replaced with love and action. The love and action stems from obedience to the Lord; an obedience NOT based on anything BUT love for the Lord.
7. How does Paul begin his prayer in verse 3?
Giving thanks to the Lord for the Philippian church folks.
How could you echo that for your sisters here?
By giving thanks to the Lord for the incredible, generous gift of relationship with my bible study blog sisters whenever any sisters or prayer needs come to mind, or when I am doing the study offline, or when I come online to participate or read comments.
8. What is Paul sure of in verse 6, and why can He be sure of this?
Paul is certain that God will continue His work in those of the Philippian church that He has begun; He will continue until it is finished. Paul is sure of this because it is God’s doing…God’s plan; Paul fully trusts that God is in control.
9. In a past lesson, Tim Keller said if you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. For those who were with us (or who want to attempt an answer!) why did he say that?
It is all or nothing…one either possesses the fruit of the spirit (“fruit” as plural and not singular) or makes efforts to conger up “fruits”. When stress or pressure strikes, the efforts to possess fruits will fail. “Fruit” of the spirit is a natural, second nature kind of thing that doesn’t require conscious, contrived efforts in appearances as such.
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7?
Despite Paul’s imprisonment, the Philippians continued to defend and confirm the gospel news.
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so.
This is a bitter-sweet question…I love the thought that this gentleman stood beside me in a fatherly role, but it pains me to think of the consequences he suffered/suffers as a result. This is all I should really share since this involves pastoral misconduct resulting in a nasty church fight that not only divided the ministry team but church as well.
12. How much affection does Paul feel for them according to verse 8?
Paul loves the Philippians with a “Jesus” kind of love.
I thoroughly enjoyed praying the v. 9-11 prayer for you all…what a lovely prayer.
oh Nanci–so thankful for this news on Jay!
Praise the Lord for the good news about Jay.
Nanci, what wonderful, wonderful news! So glad to hear this…thank you for sharing!
Praise God Nanci for the good news on little Jay!
So thankful for this news, Nanci!
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
As I consider this question I can think of many instances that qualify, my salvation experience as a 6 year old child, watching a live depiction of the passion play, the visual stimulation and story combined surfaced questions in the heart of a curious little girl. Questions that were soon answered (a few days later) as my first grade teacher “coincidentally” (no such thing) retold the story with the personal implications applied. Still pondering…that night I voiced my need to my dad…the wooing had begun…much later mid-late 20’s (14-15 years ago), broken and disillusioned…I picked up a book called “The Sacred Romance” by John Eldredge. It shook me to the core…I would sit on my bed and read and cry…as I poured over the pages of a love that I barely knew much less understood. My heart was softened…and the hunger became insatiable (“taste and see that the Lord is good”) I did…and today, He just keeps calling…
So interesting to hear your story. How God had His hand on you. I too love The Sacred Romance.
Such a tender heart Rhonda–this is beautiful
13. Share your notes here.
I was really drawn to the idea concerning “God is useful versus God is beautiful”…what a radical difference this understanding makes! God is beautiful is relational, so intimate, so personal. In comparison who would want to have a utilitarian relationship with God?
Also, I found Keller’s comments on the change of social structure (related to the slave girl) to be very interesting. I have never considered this idea but it is so true. As transformation happens it does have tremendous social implications. Those benefiting from a life of the flesh lose that control…the life of God radically alters the landscape(in every respect). To think that her salvation resulted in an overarching social structure change is pretty incredible! The Gospel radically alters the state of life for everyone involved…
PRAYER REQUEST***
I’m sorry I’ve been sporadic here lately…I’ve been having a hard time emotionally with lots of changes – my parents’ selling their home, but now this –
This week we received the news after the completion of many tests that my mom’s memory loss is Alzheimer’s disease. That was a blow. The doctor also told her that effective immediately, no more driving. Another blow. He started her on the medication Aricept and yesterday it made her not feel well – nausea, no appetite – she is on the lowest dose right now for the first 30 days but this is a concern because she only weighs 82 pounds to begin with and this medication has these side effects of nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite and weight loss.
All this business of selling the house – realtors, home inspections, finding a new place to live has her very bewildered; we all met my parents at a place near where I live last Sunday to look at it and she will tell you today that they have no place to go as she does not remember being there Sunday. Moving is hard and stressful when you’re young and healthy but for her it is overwhelming.
My dad is shouldering the weight of everything now, and he is 86. Thankfully he is mentally very sharp, but it is so hard on him because she asks him the same questions over and over…I was there for several hours yesterday and was drained when I left. He needs prayers too.
So sorry that you and your family are going through this. So hard. I will pray for your mother, your father and you. Thank you for giving us the specifics so that we can pray better.
Oh Susan — this is so hard. I know how much you love your mom.
Father, I do ask that You would be with Susan’s mom and family and bring comfort. Please help her adjust to this medicine or show the doctor a better way. It seems like too much, and yet You know. Be with Susan’s dad as he copes with this. Thank You his mind is sharp, please give him your energy and calm.
In Jesus Name I pray
Susan, I’m so sorry you have received this diagnosis for your mom. My mother-in-law has been walking this same road for the past 10 years, at least. I will be praying for you and your parents.
Susan–I have been praying so much for you–the more I try to even imagine what it must feel like to go through what you are–it’s just so much at once.And each “blow” is incredibly difficult–these are big trials. I keep picturing a stormy sea that has upturned your boat in the midst of waves–yet I know He has you, and trust He will hold you through this, and will continue to pray. It is so much, so hard.
Susan, I was tearing up as I read your post. Such a tender spot for you to be in right now…the roles shifting…I am so sorry for this additional hardship. Father, I pray for Susan right now…I pray that You will help her to bear these responsibilities with Your support (yet at the same time) press tightly into You for her necessary personal comfort. This is a season of immense stress and pain. She needs guidance, she needs reassurance, she needs Your strength, be that for her today. I pray for her mom and dad as there are so many adjustments happening in their lives. Go before them with ample provisions and soothe their troubled minds in this aging process. This is heavy stuff Lord, may they each rest in Your loving embrace.
Susan, OH NO! This is devastating news for all of you-I am so sorry Susan. I would hug you if I were with you-Lord thank you that you dived into suffering so that you could walk with us through our suffering..God please walk with Susan, her mother and her dad through this-I don’t know what to say other than help, they need you so..
I’ve been praying that a lot, just “Jesus, HELP”.
Susan, it must feel like you are drowning..and need Him to just come. I can’t imagine how your mom must feel-what it feels like to have Alzheimers and to forget-how frustrating that must be and also the impact she knows it is having on her husband and her loved ones. I am thankful that you love her so Susan..she needs that.
Dear Susan, I’m so sorry…how hard this is for you and your family. When my mom had dementia so bad, I had to pray for patients all the time because she was here everyday and her same questions over and over really got to me and I’m afraid I snapped at her so much and I regret that alot now that she is gone. I had a daycare with a lot of kids and I was a wreck. But anyway, this is going to be very hard for everyone. Call her Dr. as your mom can’t loss anymore weight…maybe there is something else he can put her on. I’ll be praying, Susan…love you.
Thanks Joyce…don’t beat yourself up about the past – my dad is really laid-back and patient but he loses his patience too at times-it’s just hard and especially with you having all those kids there too! You had a lot on your plate but I know you loved your mom and helped as much as you were able! Yes, the doctor said we will try 30 days and see how she tolerates the medication. Today was better b/c dad made sure she ate before she took it.
Oh good, so maybe that’s the trick. How close will they live to you?
Susan, I can’t even begin to imagine how your mother’s diagnosis has affected you. I would guess it is some extreme variant of “sad” and “disappointed.” It is so good that you have brought the news to this blog. We will cover you all in prayer — your mother, your father, and you.
Susan, I lived with my grandma who also had Alzheimers. What a sad disease. It is very difficult on the caregivers and they need support just as the victim does. I am praying for both of your parents and you as well.
So sorry to hear of your Mom’s diagnosis…I will be praying for you all during these difficult days and those ahead. I too had this disease touch my family…two uncles and an aunt. Thankfully since those days they have developed a medication that is supposed to delay the disease…I’m thinking this is the medication you are describing that your Mom has been put on. Hopefully your Mom will be able get used to the dosage without continued nausea and loss of appetite. Take good care, Susan.
Girls I am on a mini vacation before my super busy summer season starts at work. I know how you worry dear Elizabeth!
I typed out a long post yesterday before the spotty internet connection here lost it for me, so I will not try to post, but hope to keep up with reading yours.
PLEASE KEEP BRIAN IN YOUR PRAYERS STILL, I am asking that he hunger for the truth and see where he has been believing lies, he is about 1/2 way through his jail sentence we think.
🙂 good girl for letting us know–so thankful you will have a mini vacation too!
Lord, we lift up Brian to You–we pray that You would pierce his heart, that he would have his eyes opened to Your truth and his heart would hunger and thirst only for You Lord.
Oh Chris…have fun, rest, be playful…enjoy!! Lord, I do not know the situation with Brian but it sounds like he needs to have a sweet encounter with You. Holy Spirit go forth in power, draw his heart, captivate his mind…bring him into a radical transformation that is undergirded by Your truth! We will give YOU all the glory!
Yeah Chris-so glad you can get out and get away before a busy Summer-oh yes I am sure this is heart breaking for you and your husband-Lord I agree with Elizabeth and Rhonda-thank you for giving Chris this time to get away-come to her and Bill in this time and comfort them and renew their strength in you-and give them a time to really enjoy some rest and what you have made for them to enjoy together. Break through to Brian and give him a heart that desires you-only you can do that and we ask that you would move in a mighty way.
Praying for you and Bill to have a great get-a-way, Chris. Praying also for Brian.
Chris,
Praying for Brian…may the Lord use this time to work on his heart!
Glad you get a break! Will remember Brian — praying some Christian ministry or Christian comes to him winsomely
Thank you, Chris, for letting us know about your vacation. I wonder and worry when someone just disappears for a prolonged time (although I realize that is everyone’s perogative to just be in the background). I am praying that God will touch Brian’s heart and draw Brian close with strong bonds to Himself. You just go and enjoy, rest, and restore — smell the roses!
Enjoy, Chris…wishing you a restful, refreshing, renewing time away. I will keep Brian in my prayers…
Diane–it wouldn’t let me “reply” where you posted this to Rhonda–but seeing these words from you brought me SUCH JOY: “Today, however, we have had some major reassurance from God that He is with us and is at work in our situation. Praise the Lord!”
Oh I am so thankful–I have been praying continually that He would show you He is at work!
15. What is your take-a-way and why?
My short version is that He continues to show me, the answer is always Jesus. Remembering who He is, and who I am because of who He is!
Lately I have felt completely depleted at the end of the day. My kids are both in very trying situations—neither of which I can “fix” (not that we ever can, really!), and I feel like an inflatable jumpy house when they unplug it at the end of the party. There are moments that replenish, sweet hugs or true confessions. But if I rely on those to fill me—I never seem to get enough back in my ‘tank’ before more is used up.
I have a picture I took of a sunset over a beautiful, calm lake—it’s in my bedroom. When I saw it this morning, I thought how I have always loved lakes–much more than the ocean. Calm instead of chaos, I guess. There is a lake a few blocks from my house where I love to go alone and just sit at the marina and watch the water. I especially like lakes like this–where you cannot see the end–as far as my eye can see, it just continues to a greater body. But this morning, He reminded me He calls Himself the Living Water. The well never runs dry. “Jesus stood up and cried out, ‘If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, “Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water” John 7: 37-38. I want my heart to flow with His living water. To be filled up so that I can love without seeking to be re-filled. I can give without fearing I will be depleted. His well never runs dry.
I also had a funny old memory today, and the Lord used it to. When I was in college, just engaged to my (now) husband—a friend and her parents invited us to their Country Club for lunch after church. My husband had on pants and a nice shirt, but no blazer. As we walked in the doors, within minutes an employee had a perfect fitting sports coat on my husband. It was a bit awkward at first, but soon enough we forgot about it, and anyone dining would have assumed it was his own. Because of the coat, he now belonged, and no one would have guessed it wasn’t really his, or thought less of him—he belonged. This afternoon I was listening to Christian talk radio and a local preacher was talking about being clothed in His righteousness. I got home and looked up Isaiah 61: 10: “I will greatly rejoice in the LORD; my soul shall exult in my God, for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation; he has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself like a priest with a beautiful headdress, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.” Just like that coat gave my husband “member status”, we have been clothed. I am wearing HIS robe, I am clothed—I can walk throughout my day as a daughter f the King. Oh how I really wish it would sink in at every moment—wouldn’t I act differently? If I lived as fully accepted, fully presentable, fully loved. No striving, no fear, no insecurity. Just that peace that comes from resting in a robe that says ‘I’m His’.
What a great memory and application, elizabeth. We have “member status”, clothed in jewels of the bridegroom. Love it!
Great story and parallel, Elizabeth. Am praying for you in your trying situation!
Elizabeth, I loved your post! Especially this part: “If I lived as fully accepted, fully presentable, fully loved. No striving, no fear, no insecurity. Just that peace that comes from resting in a robe that says ‘I’m His’.” Sounds like heaven to me!
Elizabeth…I love this…”I am wearing HIS robe, I am clothed—I can walk throughout my day as a daughter of the King”…now wouldn’t that be a great outfit for the catwalk? 🙂 I can see it now!!!
Rhonda, now where is my ‘like’ button. 😉 Loved your comment, made me smile.
Elizabeth- “I am wearing HIS robe, I am clothed—I can walk throughout my day as a daughter f the King. Oh how I really wish it would sink in at every moment—wouldn’t I act differently?” -Loved this.
“If I lived as fully accepted, fully presentable, fully loved. No striving, no fear, no insecurity. Just that peace that comes from resting in a robe that says ‘I’m His’.”-you are doing this and I know it isn’t perfect yet and isn’t moment by moment yet-but you ARE growing more secure in His love as He continues to melt your heart Elizabeth-and this SO encourages me! SO don’t EVER think you are ‘spieling’ too much for God so often speaks to us through your spiels. 🙂
Thanks to all for your prayers. As I was walking this morning, I was thinking about how when someone is in a crisis of one sort or another, people rally around; for example, bringing meals when a person is recovering from surgery. But then, when the person is feeling better, the help is no longer needed, and they are on their own again. But with God, He never says, “Okay – you are able to handle this on your own now, you no longer need My help. Call Me if you need anything.” He never leaves us to walk through even one day on our own, even though I stupidly can think that I am “independent” and doing fine on my own.
So good, Susan. “He never leaves us to walk through even one day on our own.” I’m so so glad!
Susan-I’m so thankful His truth is so embedded in your thoughts–praying it will continue to anchor you
Oh how grateful I am that He never leaves us alone…your analogy is so true…hang in there in friend! He answers before there is even a dial tone!
Susan, your authenticity and transparency always always encourages me.
I love that He is always with me 🙂
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
I’m not just trying to be cute here; the answer to that is: Only God knows!
INITIALLY it may have been something so early or so subtle that I am not even aware of it today. However, God saw that I was born into a Christian family, taught to pray, and was given Christian books to read even as a child. One favorite of mine was Hurlbutt’s Story of the Bible (that is 60 years ago, and the book is out of print now:). As a teenager, I attended church camp for five summers in a row. I was baptized at 12, but it was at age 15 that I had a profound experience during a morning watch at church camp — that was when I knew I was His! From then on, I totally agree with Rhonda, “He just keeps calling!”
Sounds like alot of wooing to me Deanna…what a rich and sweet heritage…it is funny how things begin to change when we can say, “I knew I was His”…
Remembering each of you with thanksgiving for I’m thankful for this online group. Praying for your prayer requests mentioned.
Here are some nuggets I am taking away from this week:
#6: When we are transformed by the gospel, we seek to serve Christ and are interested in the eternal work of nourishing and encouraging others; leaving behind our self/selfishness.
#11: Friends that have sacrificed their time to encourage me I will never forget. One mama of (at the time) eight – gave a whole Saturday morning to share fellowship and encouragement. Another friend drove nearly quite a distance to share lunch and encouragement.
Keller’s sermon: Obey to enjoy Him and delight in Him. And the gospel can not be canned. God personally reaches out to each of us right where we’re at.
I have struggled with putting friends before God and then feeling abandonment when they leave. Though I struggle in this new season – this time I have chosen to sit on the edge of my seat and wait for Him to lead in the area of new friendships rather than pace the floor in a panic or attend my own pity party. So grateful to have waited on Him this time. He has blessed with the budding of two new friendships. He is also answering my cry for moms to mentor me.
When life busts into pieces, He is the best glue to put them back together.
Blessings to each of you this weekend! May we find our rest in Him alone.
Cherie,
I am on late this evening-went to meet with some gals at my church and yes God opened a door. 🙂 When you said you have chosen to sit on the edge of your seat and wait for him to lead in the area of new friendships-really encouraged me. I was exhausted from working in the kitchens three days-and didn’t feel physically like going tonight but so wanted to and went anyway-and yes He came. I asked Him to help me to listen and to love.
Loved this-‘when life busts into pieces, He is the best glue to put them back together.’ -wonderful word picture.
Cherie and Rebecca — love these friendship stories.
My take-aways: I think the week was crammed with potential take-aways. However, I will zero in on only one. That is Brennan Manning’s statement that when we get to heaven, the Lord will ask us one question and only one question: “Do you believe that I love you?” It is the gospel in a nutshell, is it not?! So many of us have confessed to only partially believing it, or that we couldn’t grasp it all at once and that we are still growing into it.
An interesting sideline: Remember at the beginning of the week, I said I had never heard of Brennan Manning before? A teacher for an adult Sunday School class at church called in the middle of the week and asked me to substitute for him this Sunday. I said I would, and he said he would send me the material by email. When I got the material, I just looked heavenward and laughed because it mentions Brennan Manning in it 🙂
Hee-Hee!! 🙂 No coincidences! Take it and run with it sister!
That’s great, Deanna.
My take aways this week…
I keep thinking of Brennan Manning and his statement, “Abba I belong to You”…the ease and grace with which he vocalized that statement was very profound to me…very childlike…it just makes me want to raise my arms like a little girl waiting for her daddy to sweep her off her feet! The gentleness of this image just helps me visualize and put the reality of this “relationship” in perspective…He has got us!
Also, as I think about the aspect of community (as emphasized in the first chapter of Philippians), I realize what a treasure it is to be able to glean and grow with the body of Christ in such amazing ways. In this world of technology we can easily be overwhelmed; however, when I consider this community and the way God allows for the body to connect in this day and age it just boggles my mind! I am really enjoying this unique gift!
It was neat to read everyone’s prayers (the echo prayers)…that was a very practical way of understanding the heart of the Apostle Paul as he was recalling the beauty of his community…I love the practical application (bringing it home)…thank you Dee!
Abba — I belong to you.
Yes.
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
I have mentioned this before, but God initially spoke to me when my father died. He told me He would always be there for me. However, about 15 years ago He gave me some women who helped me take my dance experience to another level, and to learn that I could dance for Him. My secular dance became a joyous experience because I could then please Him. My dance then had meaning 🙂 thank you Jesus for the dancers who filled me in long ago!
Love this story Laura — sometime we’d love a video if you ever post one on u-tube!
Read Philippians 1:1-11
4. From whom does this letter come, according to verse 1, and how does Paul describe their identity?
The letter comes from Paul and Timothy, “servants of Christ Jesus”.
5. Compare this fellowship to the fellowship you have with those who share a common interest such as work, children, or gardening – how does this fellowship differ? Contemplate.
I will pick sharing a common interest in children – being a mom, raising children…
Over the years I’ve met many other moms and we have much to talk about – when our children were toddlers and preschoolers it was discussing potty training and getting them to share their toys and as they grew, the topics of discussion changed…we shared common struggles and trials and advice and successes. Relevant and important to child-rearing, yes – but all the stuff of the temporal world. And there is nothing wrong with this kind of fellowship, but it is not the stuff that feeds the soul, nor it is the stuff that helps you wrestle with the deepest questions of life and encourages you to look upward to God.
Also, with people whom the only bond you have is a common interest, I have found that when one changes or moves on to a different stage in life, often their is no longer anything that holds you together.
I experienced this a few years ago. I became good friends with the mom of one of my daughter’s friends – she was also my neighbor. Our daughters played together, and this woman went from working full-time to a couple days a week. So we would go walking together and do things together and she was there for me during a difficult time. But then, the friendship of our daughters ended, mainly b/c her daughter is 3 years older than mine, and she returned to work full-time. And that was the end of our friendship. I only rarely see her now, and it’s mostly waving to her as she drives by or I occasionally see her outside and I’ll go over to say hi. Our friendship was only for a short season.
When I feel “knit” to another believer, it is so much richer, deeper. Yet I don’t want to be too “pollyanish” here – I don’t “click” with every woman just because we are both believers. But there are those “woman-Timothys” in my life that I feel a deep bond with, just like Paul felt with Timothy.
6. Learn more about why Paul was so knit to Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21. Meditate on these words. Then answer this challenge question: Why does a gospel-transformed heart lead to the kind of character Paul described in Timothy in Philippians 2:19-21?
I read through verse 22: “But you know that Timothy has proved himself, because as a son with his father he has served with me in the work of the gospel”. I think this is the key.
Keller said in his sermon on the Prodigal Sons that if the elder son had really cared about his father, when he saw his father’s broken heart, he would’ve perhaps tried to go find his younger brother and bring him home, or at least when younger brother came home, he would’ve welcomed him with joy, knowing that now his father’s heart was happy. Jesus, our True Elder Brother, saw the Father’s broken heart over His lost children, and went and did something about it. So, too, Timothy shows his gospel-transformed heart in working as a son with his father, caring about what his spiritual father, Paul, cares about, and caring about what his Heavenly Father cares about, too. And what he cares about is not just his own interests (everyone does that) but he cares about people – Timothy loves as Jesus loves.
I know how self-centered and self-absorbed I can be about my own interests, my own problems, my own family. The gospel, when I listen to it and respond to it, helps me to care about others.
Susan , caring for others comes natural for you!
I have one more thing to add to my take aways…as a result of this week’s study (and the rich understanding of community)…on Thursday nights, I have a group of ladies that I meet with (every week). These ladies are a treasured gift from God, they have seen me at my best and in my very worst (and loved me in both places). So, as we were sitting around the table (one friend graciously cooks a meal for us every Thursday night, it just blows my mind)…I just had to stop and say, “I have a proclamation” I was then able to share my “I thank my God at every thought of you…” tribute! This study has helped me see how important those words are…I think some times we assume that others know how much we love them…but there are those times when we need to express it! It was funny because their response was “we know you love us”!! HA! We all broke out into laughter…I told them that was the “best response they could have had”…it does my heart good to know that they know that I love them!!!
Love it!
9. In a past lesson, Tim Keller said if you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. For those who were with us (or who want to attempt an answer!) why did he say that?
I am going back to this earlier question because I needed time to ponder it. I knew that the answer to this question, but the question has been bothering me all week because, at the moment, I am questioning myself. Do I even have any of the fruit of the Spirit, let alone all of them that this question seems to be implying?
I am only too aware of the peace I often do not have, and the joy I frequently lack due to the circumstances I am in. It seems God has taken away all the underpinnings of worldly security and said, “Trust me. Do not trust this world’s security.” And I admit I am squirming. I am worrying. I am trying to control and fix. Yet I know I cannot fix. So, I doubt even if I have any of the fruit of the Spirit, and even doubt if maybe I am a Christian.
The only way I can keep on going is by continually repenting and re-turning my face toward Jesus, seeing His love for me because of what He did for me on Calvary, and running back into His arms, saying, “O Lord, help.” And sometimes, I truly rest for a while and get refreshed to go back into the battle.
I listened to a few of Manning’s messages on YouTube, and they helped, but I also went back to my notes on a Keller sermon called “How to Change” and re-listened to it. Keller is helpful in explaining that while all the fruit of the Spirit go together, they are also gradual and inevitable, so we frequently cannot see them ourselves, but need other Christians to point out that we are growing.
Here is the very good sermon by Keller, if any have time to listen. It is free.
http://thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/how_to_change
Diane, I do see the fruit of the Spirit in you.
Diane, I agree with Dee…you have the fruits of the spirit, I just think you have been through so much that the evil one is trying to convince you otherwise. Praying for you, sweet sister.
I agree…the Spirit flows through your words…often at just the right moment! Much depth…much love displayed!
Thanks, Dee, Joyce and Rhonda, for your reassuring words. I know I am in a battle and that Satan attacks my conscience. He is such a mean accuser. I do tend to be very hard on myself and have to remember to give myself “grace”, or, rather, to remember God’s grace to me. My hope is not in my performance, but in His performance imputed to me. I am free. I do not have to earn His grace by being perfect. When I fail, I can simply run back to His arms and He picks me up and hugs me. Such love, such boundless grace!
15. What is your take-a-way and why?
I know this is off topic-My take away is rejoicing in everyone elses take aways. 🙂 That is my take away- to praise Him for how He is taking us closer in and higher up-how He has given us the gift of one another which is partaking in Him-and even though we are all ragamuffin sinners and broken-His light breaks through individually and corporately. Partnering together in the Gospel-It is beautiful!
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so. Three years ago, I developed a severe case of shingles that affected my eye. It was terribly painful. Then I developed a complication called iritis, where I couldn’t use my left eye. Every time any light hit it, it would go into a terrible spasm, sort of like a “charley horse” in my eye. Needless to say, I couldn’t work, I couldn’t drive. And I was the parent that picked my daughter up after school every day. I put out a call to the folks at church for help. And they responded. Some helped alot. Some could only help once or twice. But she was covered every day for a month. I’ll never forget their willingness to jump in and do this.
13. Share your notes on T. Keller sermon:
*There is no “cookie cutter” way to speak the gospel to others. We must be so in touch with Jesus that we are ready in all circumstances.
* In religion, God is useful. In Christianity, God is beautiful.
* We must not be naive, like the author was in the story of the teenage girl forced into prostitution from the gangs of the neighborhood. We must trust God to show us what we need to do to speak the gospel but also fight social injustice. We can’t speak the gospel then leave folks on their own.
* You don’t tell the gospel to someone who doesn’t give a rip – you show them.
* The challenge of living out the gospel through suffering. We are each given a chance to show the lost how much God loves us by how we respond to trials that come into our lives. I found it amazing that the other prisoners did not leave the jail either, only because of listening to Paul & Silas praying and singing. There is no reason to believe that they got out of jail. But the example of Paul & Silas must have been profound.
15. What is your take-a-way and why? First, I love the reminder of how important fellowship is to each of us. Fellowship has taken on a weak definition in alot of churches, as in cookies after the service or getting together for a BBQ. This wonderful passage tells me that true fellowship is based on Jesus and our shared love for him. It is being knit together with fellow believers to pray together, worship together, support each other. It takes commitment and a willingness to put each other’s interests first.
Secondly, the examples of Brennan Manning and George Beverly Shea. Two men who lived with gospel transformed hearts. Simple & deep. Focused on Jesus. Amazing!
Finally, the reminder that our fellowship may not be what we expected. In the church at Philippi, who would have ever thought those three people would be put together? Only in God’s power are we all able to be redeemed and knit together for his purpose.
Thanks again to all of you on this blog. I get so much from reading your posts, your thoughts, your struggles and joys. This is truly a fellowship being knit together.
Wow Jill…you have said so much heartfelt honest stuff in this post! I particularly like this phrase…”You don’t tell the gospel to someone who doesn’t give a rip – you show them”. Now that is a beautiful explanation of practical application! It sounds like you have had some God sends in your life too, friend! Your post is wonderful…thank you for sharing your heart!
Great story and notes and so glad you are with us.
Jill, You will be a blessing to others you come face to face with as you are to us here! You really get it. I think God wants us, as Dee said, to partner in the Gospel here and pray for one another that God would bring this fellowship in the Gospel back to our churches. I think God delights in that and I think Dee is like Paul in mentoring us in this! I am learning if I can squeeze in enough time to seize opportunities of fellowship at my church He will come and open doors.
13. Share your notes here.
God is VERY personal in His approach with us…Lydia needed practical information while the slave girl required power to provide her freedom to believe…similarly, Jesus’ responses to Mary and Martha upon Lazarus being dead and entombed differed by what each needed.
overcome evil with good (Romans 12:21…”Don’t let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good.”
14. How did God initially move in your life to woo you in?
I am going to preface this by apologizing for the length, but it is something I truly want to share…it provided me an “ah-ha!” moment this morning. Please feel free to read or not…I do understand it is lengthy and will be time consuming.
I was provided a foundation of faith in my up-bringing…baptized at 8 days. In hindsight I see that my early exposure gave me knowledge and some understanding, but also led largely to my being a rather nominal Christian, as if going to church each weekend provided me with “the required cleansing shower.” I continued in my childhood denomination for half of my adult life.
In a move to a different town when I was 30 years old, I discovered an incredible priest at the local church. He was unlike any priest I had ever encountered…friendly, welcoming, engaging sermons, appreciative of beauty in the church surrounding…he was a “real” person with no pretense and I could so easily relate to him. My church attendance moved from one of obligation to one of desire…I truly enjoyed attending mass and even began attending other mid-week worship and studies when possible. My faith was becoming for relate-able to me. When going through my divorce, I went to talk with this priest; he was so kind, not critical or reprimanding. We talked about annulment, but as an option; he assured me that despite my decision he would never withhold sacraments from me.
I met a wonderful man; we dated, became engaged, and eventually got married. I moved about 30 minutes away and the priest also retired; I began attending a church closer to my new home. Upon the priest finding out of my divorce and re-marriage without having gotten an annulment, he told me that I was in “mortal sin” and ineligible to receive any sacraments, including absolution of sin and communion. I was heart-broken and angry. I ended my relationship with this church and denomination and explored other denominations. I eventually found a denomination/church that was very similar and this became my new church/denomination.
Previously, I had not really studied or read the bible…I found the NKJ translation, the only one I had ever been exposed to, difficult to understand; I got frustrated whenever I tried to read the bible, not being able to really make sense of it. As I discovered a readable/understandable bible translation, read Christian authored books, heard pastoral messages that were so easily relate-able to, had conversations with the pastor that answered questions and gave me additional food for thought, listened to Christian music, attended retreats and bible studies, etc., a whole new world opened up to me…this happened over a period of about 5 years. Yet, something was missing…I was grateful to Jesus for saving me from my sin, but there wasn’t a “personalness” to Jesus…Jesus was a rather distant, impersonal figure.
About 4 years ago my husband and I were involved in a huge church splitting fight; we left the church rather “shell-shocked”. During this period of emotional and spiritual suffering/devastation, I drew closer to God in reading the psalms…I felt the Lord had ordained David’s words for me for that moment. We did find another church; my joy with worship, Christian study, book, music, etc. continued. Unfortunately, ugliness from the synod descended in a situation separate from the church, but additionally my husband and I sensed some rather manipulative means being used to encourage building on to the church or new church building, which scared us away; we are extremely sensitive to “spin” and manipulation due to our past experience. We discontinued attending this church in June 2012 and have yet to find a place to worship in community to-date.
On June 4, 2012 I began a 100 day prayer (John I. Snyder)…my prayer was “To love the Lord with my whole heart, mind, soul, and strength–no idols being before Him.”
On September 20, 2012 I heard Dee on Midday Connection regarding “Idol Lies” and was drawn to the bible study blog as well as ordering “Idol Lies”. This was the first I had heard of “Idol Lies” or the bible study blog. (For those of you interested, there are 90 days between June 4 and September 20…didn’t realize this connection until just this morning while I was journaling this answer.)
My participation on this bible study blog over the past seven months has opened my heart to Jesus…I feel a relationship and bond to Him that I NEVER in nearly my 50 years have EVER felt. I am not a very emotional person, but the thought makes my eyes tear (this would be akin to most people crying…:) )
So to make a short answer long, as I have done…I think I have been wooed by the Lord much of the past 20 years, but most especially so in just these last seven months.
OH NANCI!-this is such a BEAUTIFUL testimony–thank you, thank you for sharing it with us. I have always been drawn to your depth, and I am even more endeared to you knowing more of your story. It’s hard to read (as I am sure it was so painful) about how you were mistreated after your divorce. It stirs such anger in me to hear that–I am so sorry. But so thankful you did not grow bitter against God–says so much about your heart–to know that that was not the way He sees you. And to let Him draw you deeper and closer to Him. Such an incredible story He has weaved. Much, much pain–but He has brought out such amazing beauty. I am so thankful He used Dee’s study as art of your journey–so so blessed to know you Nanci. Wow.
Nanci — thanks so much for the story. Helps us to know you better. Shows what grace versus legalism can do. I’m so sorry for all the messy church business. I will pray for you to find a church. I am thinking you are in the Madison area where there are some good ones — but I could be wrong. The Gospel Coalition also has a church directory — not that those are necessarily wonderful, but perhaps worth visiting.
But I will pray.
So very glad you are with us. What a joy you are.
Nanci, I am spellbound! What an amazing post! Wooing, healing, drawing…you kept moving, you survived! Oh, what a good and gracious God we serve! He saw it all and said…”I am tethered to you child”…I am gonna lead You to green pastures…I am gonna let my living water soothe your soul…He found you when you were forsaken…He is binding your wounds even now! I hear it in every post you share! You have a deep and rich RELATIONSHIP with your Father. His ways are mysterious…leading us in and out…up mountains…down into valleys…never for one minute losing track of us! Your testimony is such a reminder of this. I am so sorry for all the pain. I wish I could give you a big hug! But it sounds like the Father is on it! 🙂 You are deeply loved sister…and the thought that you put into this post is respected beyond words!
Nanci,
I do not regret the time I just took to read your testimony – thank you for sharing it and I do feel it has helped me to know you better! So cool how Jesus has “stepped out of the painting” and become real to you!
Wow! Thanks so much for being open about your ups and down and how God has wooed you! I am awe-struck!
Thanks gals. I so appreciate your kind words and sharing in the joy of my revelation.
Dee, I checked out the directory on the Gospel Coalition site…I actually live in central WI…smack dab in the middle of the state. There are a couple of churches listed in Wausau, about 45 minutes away. Thanks for the suggestion.
Wow Nanci! That is an awesome testimony! I’m so glad you have come home here! We love you and so glad you found Dee and all of us here! Everyone needs to hear this testimony …I will mention to everyone to come back and read it!
Nanci, thanks so much for taking the risk and sharing your journey with us. This, to me, is what fellowship is about.
Nanci,
I read this yesterday, and tears came. What a wonderful testimony! I was blown over how God brought you here and came to you-slowly through adversity He was drawing you to Him-totally glorifies Him because I have seen people use similar experiences to yours as reasons to reject God. He is the one who woos, prepares and softens hearts! I have to also say that I am SO GLAD you are with us-I so love your transparent and soft heart for Him.
Nanci,
I skimmed this yesterday, but just read it again in depth and what struck me is that no matter what God never lifted His hand from you. All the “stuff” with the church goes on and brings a huge amount of pain, yet God still has His hand and provides alternatives for those who belong to Him…it was worth reading and it brought a smile to my face. The realization that no matter what is going on around you, no matter what is happening in “the church” He has never left you and has guided you.
Please don’t misunderstand me, I think that God is heartbroken every time someone is wounded by the church, but the ones who don’t give up and press on…that is the smile. I am so grateful that He led you here, I have learned much from you.
I am learning to be vulnerable and I just want to ask for some prayer. Even as I engage in our blog…at times I have anxiety about it. This has been my first public venture onto the internet…I do not have a facebook account…I have pretty much been invisible. Partly because I really do not want all of my time consumed; and another part is because (based on my difficult experience)…I know everything I say and do is scrutinized to the hilt. So, I guess I just need to get this out into the open and say…I will make mistakes, I will post things that are misunderstood (no one has inferred any of this at all) I just need to say it! I know that if anyone wants to look deep enough…you will find that I have many faults and am deeply flawed in my humanity…but I can say…”I love Christ with all of my heart…He is my Lord and Savior…and I am so grateful that He took my place (in my sin) on the cross and gave me new life!” I just needed to say that and I know that you guys are a great sounding board. I need prayer because every time I sit down to type, the enemy starts in…”why are you participating….you are going to get hammered and things would be much easier if you would just be quiet”…and on and on it goes. However, I know that this isn’t the voice of Christ. He gave me a voice (and new life) and He wants me to engage with people (without fear)…so, that’s what I’m attempting to do in this place…help me pray through the internal struggle! Thank you so much!
Rhonda, Praying for you. So glad you are here and sharing with us.
I know it is hard to participate on a blog with privacy concerns and all. This is the first one I have participated in as well. You are doing really well and I appreciate so much your insights and encouragement.
oh Rhonda–I’m between errands and a baseball game, but I just saw this and had to jump on quickly–you could have written this straight from my own thoughts! I too, do not have a facebook account, and this is the only online “place” I participate. It took me a LONG time to get through my own anxiety about it–but once I experienced the vulnerability and depth of the godly women here, I knew I wanted to be a part of it. I can say I 100% relate to the fear of being mis-understood with your words–and yes, the enemy loves to make me 2nd guess what I’ve posted–I used to be the “delete queen” here until we realized what a mess deleting a post does ;0
Being mis-understood is a life-long fear of mine though–I’ve always had a longing to be known and fear I am often perceived for something I am not. But I have seen how the Lord has been breaking me of that here–He knows our hearts, and He is abundant in grace. YOU ARE LOVED HERE RHONDA.
Rhonda…I truly love your heart; it is good and sincere. Don’t let the evil one beat you up and discourage. I have found this bible study blog to be one that invites all different perspectives without offense; the gals are loving and kind, encouraging and genuine. I so enjoy your presence and getting to know better. I don’t know what your “difficult experience” was and respect your privacy, but know that we probably all have past issues we wish we didn’t…I know I do. Blessings to you, friend.
I thank you all for the sweet words of encouragement and understanding…like Nanci’s earlier post…it was just something I felt like I needed to say. I am so thankful for a place to begin working through these things…it is good to know that I am not the only one who struggles with the anxiety of such a venue. I know God is using this place in my life…and inspite of the fears I intend to carry on!!! Thank you all for listening…you are such a wonderful gift!
Rhonda, Renee has a lot of the same fears…she hasn’t been on much lately as she has to travel for her work. I have been one here (first time for me too) for about 4 years almost and never any problems. You have been such a blessing to us here. I will pray for you dear sister:)
Thank you for sharing this Joyce…so wonderful to know that I am not a lone ranger in these feelings! You are such a blessing and thank you for the prayers!
Rhonda, I’m not on Facebook either! And I do alot of writing and deleting before I hit, “submit comment”. I’ve only been here 5 weeks and haven’t yet learned alot of each woman’s journey, I get anxious that I may accidently write something that will hurt. Also, I don’t want to share too much too soon. We all have messes in our past. BUT, this is fellowship. We learn to trust and then to share. And we are all enriched by the sharing. Each one of us has something to give. I learn so much from each post. I love your perspective and your prayers.
Rhonda, I read this yesterday afternoon and couldn’t respond but I prayed-and I am sure all of us can relate to your struggle! I hated to hear that anyone would hurt you that way by scrutinizing what you say and do and I am sure it leaves scars, but it is wonderful to see you pressing in to Him and being willing to encourage us on this blog with the insight He gives you. You have such a deep love for your sisters here which comes from Him and it is so evident in your posts and in how you encourage us. We are so blessed to have you here!
Rhonda,
Like Rebecca I saw this yesterday but was unable to say anything…and I agree with Rebecca that we could probably all relate. This is my first blog as well and I started posting in November, but I was back and forth in my own mind for two months before I hit the first “submit comment”. What I have found is that this group of ladies is very supportive and loving, even though I probably say dumb stuff on occasion. That on its own is so refreshing to me as I don’t get that from those around me (occasionally but most often I get the critical response), but not here. Before I hit send the first time, I winced and asked God if He was sure this was what I was supposed to do and He said yes. Even though I have been sporadic in my posts, I have felt loved, supported and the grace of our Lord is in this group of women and I am learning to trust more and be open a bit more as a result. It is a fellowship that I treasure. I know, without doubt that if I ask anything this group will respond in grace and prayer. I wish I could express with a very big hug to each any every person how much they have meant to me.
I personally get a lot out of your posts. It is apparent that the love of Christ flows through your words. I do wonder since I am very self critical as well, that a number of us have concerns with how our posts appear to others, that perhaps that may be part of our western culture that women are perhaps expected to be perfect, if one thing is out of place, if our kids do this or that, then we are made to feel like we are failures period. I think we live in a culture where women are expected to be able to “have it all” and if you don’t then the problem lies with us, but I don’t think that is God’s culture at all. He has a different standard, He has a different culture and I find that His culture is a lot less stressful on me than the western culture is. This group of ladies helps keep me grounded and focused on God’s culture. I agree with everyone else, we are blessed to have you here. This is a God’s culture place.
You girls are all so amazing! Thank you, thank you for being so honest and for your prayers! Mary, I do think we have this idea that we should always be perceived as perfect (it is a part of the western culture); but deep inside it is so painful! I want to learn to be honest about my imperfections…it relieves my own stress and hopefully the stress of those who are in my presence. I think the “perfection” mindset keeps us from being able to engage with people in the normal everyday walk of life. Somehow we get the idea that if we are not perfect, then we are misrepresenting God as His children and that isn’t true at all! That is exactly why I need a Savior!!! I am NOT perfect. He is the perfect sacrifice offered freely for my imperfect life! Again it goes back to the external facade…I find when I relax with people and allow them to see ME…then I have a much richer relationship and genuine opportunities to both share and learn from others…humility between interacting individuals (whether believer to believer or believer to unbeliever) opens the door for the wonderful and organic life of God to take root…REAL LIFE!
7. How does Paul begin his prayer in verse 3? How could you echo that for your sisters here?
Paul begins with thanksgiving – thanking God for these brothers and sisters in Christ who live in Philippi-every time he thinks of them.
I, too, can thank God for our community here – for all the blessings all of you have enriched my life with…love, support, encouragement, understanding, honesty, your prayers, and for Dee who leads/mentors and always points me to Jesus-the gospel. This is truly a place where we can be real without fear of rejection.
8. What is Paul sure of in verse 6, and why can he be sure of this?
Paul is sure that He (God) who began a good work in these Philippian Christians will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Paul can be sure because his confidence is in God to do the work in them.
9. In a past lesson, Tim Keller said if you don’t have all the fruit of the Spirit, you may not have any. For those who were with us (or who want to attempt an answer) why did he say that?
He used a really big word – concatenation-I think? He said the word “fruit” is not plural, so it’s not the “fruits of the Spirit” but rather the “fruit of the Spirit”, and they all go together. I can identify with Diane’s response to this question. When I first heard this, it made me look at myself and doubt whether I am even a Christian. I, too, often lack joy in the midst of difficult circumstances; I find it can be elusive or short-lived. I also struggle often with a gnawing sense of loneliness, which I don’t understand if I have Jesus living on the inside of me, because that means I am not alone. Then Keller said that you may think you are gentle, but it may really be that you don’t like conflict so you try to get along. This really confounds everything because now I have to question my motives for my gentleness or self-control.
10. Those with gospel-transformed hearts are likely to be willing to pay the cost to stand beside others when they are facing trials. How did the Philippians do that for Paul according to verse 7?
This verse doesn’t seem to directly answer this question, but my Bible says that Paul wrote this letter from a prison in Rome. So he wrote to them confidently that they were still standing with him and would eagerly want to hear from him – they didn’t shun him because he was imprisoned. Perhaps it was dangerous for them to associate with Paul in any way – they could have been risking persecution themselves.
11. Share one example of a believer standing beside you in adversity though it cost them to do so.
After I had major surgery 5 yrs. ago, my husband did not feel he could take care of me after the surgery and he wanted me to find somewhere to go after my surgery. My parents had offered for me to come there, but I didn’t want to be a burden on them. My sister who is a Christian said it’s settled-you are coming to my home. I stayed with her and her husband for eight days after my surgery and she took care of me; I didn’t have to worry about a thing. I was not fun to be around the first couple of days!
I had similar feelings about his quote from Keller — see my later post… I guess we have to stop wanting to see the fruit(s) and just surrender to the process… we always seem to want to measure our performance as a Christian – does my life REALLY express the fruit? The root of that is the question “Am I enough?” Our eyes are on ourselves, instead of Christ and HIS sufficiency. This is just one of the sneaky little ways Satan uses to distract us from Christ. I, for one, WILL NOT LET HIM DO THAT!! Stand with me, sister – God is one our side, and the battle is won! Saying this to you is strengthening to me, as this is a constant struggle for me as well…
12. How much affection does Paul feel for them according to verse 8?
He has the same affection for them as Jesus has for them. That’s – a lot!
THE PRAYER
Heavenly Father, I do pray for each woman on this blog that we may know more and more of Your love for us – give us depth and insight into Your love for us and then let it overflow into loving those in our lives. Give us discernment as we live our daily lives and keep us pure and blameless, quick to repent, and fill us with the fruit of Your Spirit and clothe us in the righteousness of Your Son, Jesus. Help us to live our lives to bring You glory and praise.
Thank you for this beautiful prayer Susan!
There is so much hear to read and contemplate! I started this study a little late, but I see there there i a bond that you all have formed…I have found that when we recognize tht we are all on the same journey, we do become “knit together.” No matter how far along we are in the journey (sometimes I wonder if I’m going in circles!), we are all here because we are seeking the Lord. I loved the Manning quote about how our low self-esteem and self-hatred blocks God’s way to us, and opening ourselves to His love is the answer…what I’m struggling to understand is the facts I know from Manning’s life. I heard an interview with the author who wrote his biography, All is Grace, and how he struggled so with alcoholism. Even while speaking about the gospel to thousands, so convincingly, he would return to the hotel room and get lost in the bottle…why did God not free him from this addiction? Perhaps to show his Grace, so that no one would be confused that it was actually God working, not Brennan himself.
Then I think about the Keller quote Dee brought up about the fruits of the Spirit. How is it possible that missing the fruit of self-control, we also miss the fruit of joy? I hate to think of it as a all or nothing proposition. (Maybe that’s not what Keller meant – I’d have to listen to it in context.) I like to think instead about the “fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ” (v. 11). That for me puts the focus back on what God has done for us.
So, relying on Christ’s righteousness, secure in His love, I join you all in this discovery of a “new way of seeing” the Gospel.