IT’S SO EASY TO BECOME MARTHAS AT CHRISTMAS
WORRIED AND ANXIOUS ABOUT SO MANY THINGS
TRYING TO SATISFY OUR RAVENOUS IDOLS
OF COMFORT, CONTROL, AND APPROVAL
AND LOSING
THE JOY,
THE PEACE, &
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
INSTEAD, THIS ADVENT, BEGINNING TODAY
LET US SEEK FIRST TO BE IN HIS PRESENCE
AND WHAT WE WILL DISCOVER IS THAT
SOME CHRISTMAS TASKS WILL FALL AWAY
AND THE THINGS THAT REMAIN WILL BE TRANSFORMED
WITH JOY
WITH A PEACE THE WORLD CANNOT GIVE
MOST OF THE TIME HIS PRESENCE IS GENTLE
LIKE SOFTLY FALLING SNOW
CHANGING YOUR HEART
LIKE THE PRISTINE POWDER TRANSFORMS
THE SOD INTO A WINTER WONDERLAND
YES, MOST OF THE TIME HE WILL COME GENTLY
BUT HE MAY ALSO SURPRISE YOU
OVERWHELM YOU
FILL YOUR HEART WITH EXCEEDING GREAT JOY!
LORD WE CANNOT SEEK YOU WITHOUT YOU DRAWING US, AND SO I ASK
FOR YOUR SPIRIT TO WOO EACH OF US
TO GIVE US THE DESIRE, AS YOU DID THE MAGI, TO FIND YOU,
TO SEE YOUR FACE,
AND TO WORSHIP YOU.
IF IT PLEASES YOU, DEAR LORD,
MAY WE EXPERIENCE JUST A TASTE OF WHAT THE MAGI EXPERIENCED
OF KNOWING YOUR WORD LED THEM ARIGHT
AND REJOICING WITH EXCEEDING GREAT JOY!
THINK ABOUT THE MAGI AS YOU READ THIS QUOTE FROM WALTER WANGERIN:
Faith is work.
It is a struggle.
You must struggle
with all your heart.
And on the way God
will ambush you.
Oh, how long the Magi journeyed to seek the one born King of the Jews.
It was hard work — but then, when they drew near to Bethlehem,
they were indeed astonished, amazed and ambushed!
They saw the star reappear.
They rejoiced with exceeding great joy!
They knew: it is true!
I’ve shown the following clip of T. S. Elliot reading his poem, Journey of the Magi before,
and I will, if God gives me life, keep showing it at Advent, for it is so rich.
Watch, listen, let it sink in, and share your contemplations.
We are beginning our journey of seeking His presence.
SUNDAY/MONDAY REFLECTIONS
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
BIBLE STUDY: MONDAY-WEDNESDAY
There is always a danger with familiar passages to glaze over, but honestly, I saw new things that are helping me to seek Him. And I’m so praying that His Spirit will do the same for you. So read slowly, with fresh eyes, to discover some of the ways God wooed the Magi and ways they responded that kept them in His presence. It is a clear picture of what Larry Crabbe called “dependent responsibility.”
Perhaps these three responses of the Magi will help you experience His presence:
- WORD (It was the Word that led them to the Savior — may we stay in His Word each day)
- WAY (When given a choice, they chose the right way — not to go back to Herod, but a different way. May we be so sensitive to His Spirit throughout the day that we keep avoiding the wrong way and go God’s way.)
- WORSHIP (Their hearts responded with worship when they saw the star, the baby. May we find ways and quiet moments to worship: using music, poetry, and where we go in our minds.)
3. As an overview, read Matthew 2:1-12 and find ways God wooed them and ways they responded so as to stay in His presence. (See if you can find the Word, the Way, and the Worship.)
4. Read Matthew 2:1-2.
A. How did God woo the Magi to seek the one born to be king of the Jews? (vs. 1-2)
B. What are some ways God wooed you to Himself, both initially, and is continuing to woo you now?
5. Read Matthew 2:3-6
A. The “Good News” doesn’t seem like good news to everyone. How did Herod feel, and why do you think (what idol might have been protesting?)
B. Why do you think “all Jerusalem” was troubled with him? (In the paid sermon, Keller gives detail into the fact that he was a maniacal monster.)
C. With whom did Herod consult? What might have been his motives, but how do you see God having the upper hand?
D. What prophecy did the chief priests and scribes quote, and what wisdom did this give the Magi?
Clearly, one of the ways we seek His presence is allowing His Word to lead us, as the Magi did. That can only happen if we are not too distracted to contemplate His Word. Read this by Sara Young:
Relax in my healing presence. As you spend time with Me, your thoughts tend to jump ahead to today’s plans and problems. Bring your mind back to me. Let the light of my presence soak into you as you focus your thoughts on Me. Thus I equip you to face whatever the day brings. This sacrifice of time pleases Me and strengthens you. Do not skimp on our time together. Resist the clamor of tasks awaiting to be done. “You have chosen what it better and it will not be taken away from you.”
(Jesus Calling, January 2)
6. How can you stay in His presence this week through His Word? Do you have a plan to defeat the call of your idols?
7. Read Matthew 2:7-12
A. What lie did Herod tell the Magi and how did God correct that lie?
B. Discerning God’s voice amongst the lies of the world, the flesh, and the devil means taking thoughts captive to Him. The lies will tell you to go one way, but God will tell you to go “another way.” Right now, I’d like you to ask Him to help you discern His voice by asking:
1) Lord — what is important for me to do this Advent and what is not? (Be still and listen.)
2) Lord — I know my idols will fight what is best for me, lying to me, telling me to run to them because I cannot trust You. Help me trust You, hear you, and by faith go in the way You would lead me. What lies are my idols telling me that could lead me into danger?
8. Read Matthew 2:10-11
A. How did the Magi feel when the star re-appeared and why?
B. If you have a recent time when God “amazed, ambushed you,” we’d love to hear it!
C. What did the Magi did when they saw the child? (Find two things)
D. What part does worship play in experiencing His presence? How might you bring worship into more of your life this Advent?
E. Do you think giving to the poor (as the Magi did with this family who was poor in worldly wealth) can play a part in experiencing His presence? (Consider also Matthew 25:35-40)
F. What one thing might you do to bless the poor, the lonely, the prisoner, the least of these this Advent?
G. Is there a poem, a hymn, a carol you might go to in your mind this week, replacing any worry or complaining?
THURSDAY – FRIDAY SERMON FROM KELLER
FREE SERMON ON THE MAGI: LINK
Many of Keller’s Christmas messages are geared toward the non-Christian, as is this, but I find it to be a great blessing to my faith and to my ability to relate to non-Christians.
9. What notes to you have on the above?
OPTIONAL PAID SERMON ON THE MAGI: LINK
This is an important message, but still it is optional. Keller talks about how though Christ brings peace, He also brings a “fight.” Our idols will fight us — where as before there was no fight. People will persecute us if we are living authentically. In the end, we will have peace, but in this world, we will feel discord — as the Magi did, as Joseph and Mary did, and certainly, as Christ did. I thought of you who are married to unbelievers or who had unbelieving husbands leave you — so much pain — you could perhaps have had a temporary peace by relinquishing Christ. But oh — what you would give up. Part of experiencing His presence is a fight — saying no to our very loud idols, and doing what is right, no matter the cost. If you can listen, do! (There was one part of the sermon that confused me — I’m not quite sure how Rachael’s death led to life for her — unless Keller meant simply the life of Benjamin. So I’m eager for your thoughts.)
10. What notes do you have on the above?
Saturday:
11. What is your take-a-way and why?
12. Did you sense His presence this week? If so, share!
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SUNDAY/MONDAY REFLECTIONS
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
It is sort of depressing as I grow older and have less energy to do all the things I used to when my children were young. There was a time I actually sent out many Christmas cards. I decorated evey room in the house. We made lots of Christmas cookies. In the last few years we have not seemed to manage all of that. We bought a pre-lit tree this year (broke my hard, fast rule of not buying anything from China 🙁 ). It has stood for a week and has nothing on it yet. No one seems to want to find thd ornaments, lug them down, and participate. It is sad. I’m not sure why this has happened to my family. Christmas was always a joyous time for us. I think my entire family is beaten down with life. I suppose we are all so busy with the regular day to day stuff working and cleaning and cooking that there isn’t time for extra stuff in our lives. I am enjoying crocheting again (since I was a young girl), so yesterday I spent a couple of hours doing that. Today I will grade papers, go to church, rehearse for our cantata dance, visit my young friend in the hospital, cook dinner and grade more papers tonight. I don’t really think I can fit decorating the tree or baking cookies in!
I suppose that is what Dee is talking about…..worrying about all the “trimmings.” I gave that up a few years ago, although it makes me sad.
Laura-Dancer, I so love your honesty. I can relate. I think I am at the point now in the battle where I have to take my mind off of hating the way the world does Christmas and how it has infected me in ways, with glimpses of His compassionate heart working through others-I was thinking of the story of the police officer who stopped and saw a homeless man who had no shoes in the bitter cold so he went and got him socks and shoes and helped him-apparently the man had bad blisters on his feet as well. Of Dee who just came back from ministering to the women in the prisons-God’s character spilling through her-His compassion for the women who are doubly beaten down by the sins of others then the lies of their idols..how He comes to rescue us with His Word and His people..
Oh Laura,
I think you should be a writer. You have a way of expressing things that is so unique to you – no fluff, just a straight-forward style and it reads like I am talking to you face-to-face. I feel your sadness in what you write.
I also remember when my kids were much younger and I think that it was through them – through their eyes, that Christmas was filled with wonder and delight as we decorated the tree, baked cookies, and did the other things of the season. Now it is only my daughter and me who decorate the tree and the cookies. I wonder if I had no kids at home anymore if I would even bother with it, but that makes me sad. Not that the tree and decorations are what Christmas is all about, but it’s losing the sense of wonder and joy and yes, being too busy with the things that have to get done.
Laura-dancer — thanks so for sharing.
What I pray for you, and I truly see it growing in you, is that the wonder of Christmas will come back in new ways — perhaps not so much as it was once, as Susan says, through the excitement of children, but the wonder of the good news, of Emmanuel — and that may infect not just you but your family so that the lights on the tree will have new meaning. I’m so very glad you are here, dear one.
I am grateful for this ministry.
What a gift from the Lord.
I think it is so important to be aware of the “traditions” we choose during Christmas. My children are all grown and gone and I have no one at home now. I have no interest in any decorating. It all feels so empty.
Perhaps part of the matter is that I know (we know) that the commercialism doesn’t “work”. It doesn’t bring that peace that passes understanding that we all are seeking out in some way.
Dee stated that she prays for a “new wonder” to come into our hearts that revovle around the birth of Jesus rather than the man made “wonder”. (this is my interpretation of what Dee was communicating.
I need so desperately to see Jesus in a new way. This is my prayer for the Advent season. I pray that for none of us that our idols don’t blind us from “seeing with new eyes”.
I agree with you, Marianne, this ministry is a gift–and yes, may we not be blinded by our idols from truly seeing the Wonder of Christ–at Christmas–and always!
I appreciate and affirm your musing on “wonder” welcome to you Marianne.
1. I was thinking yesterday as we began decorating, how “behind” I was. I had really wanted to focus more on Thanksgiving this year than usual, and so I had not gotten anything ready for Christmas. But the more I looked at all the boxes, and I’m actually simple by nature anyway–the more I put stuff back. This year our decorations are extremely simple–the advent stuff, our tree, just a few favorite things–and I’m loving it. As I read the entry paragraph I thought I long to STARVE my “ravenous idols” of “COMFORT, CONTROL, AND APPROVAL” and rest in the joy, peace, & the True Gift.
I know it’s about more than decorations though–it’s a matter of my heart. Preparing for Him. We have a few different advent books, but I got a new one this year by Nancie Guthrie called “Prepare Him Room”–it’s written for families to use. We’re also reading through the Storybook Bible–the first 21 chapters are the OT and then it goes to 4 on Jesus–so it’s a great daily plan. Even though they know that book by heart, I still love the way Sally Lloyd Jones presents the Old as the backdrop for the new.
Nancy Guthrie’s book sounds like a good one, Elizabeth. I like your simplicity!
Love your plan for devotions with you family. Have you seen the new book by Sally Lloyd-Jones — Songs to Make your Heart Sing?
it’s already in my son’s Christmas gift pile and it is SO SO good–not sure I can save it for Christmas 😉
I appreciate the visual of “starving our idols”.
Some how for me this puts it into a different light. 😉
1. There are many things that stuck out but the one thing that stuck out to me above was the ‘battle’..it is, oh it is-and oh when He ambushes me..and He does-sometimes it is a whisper of a verse and sometimes like last week it was an ambush of His word from Keller-a peeling of a lie layer when I listened to Leslie Vernick and then direct instances in encounters with unbelievers at work-and with my oldest son here at home. God ambushed me exposing my sin-the layer, my stubborness-lack of faith-and the struggle with my idols..It is daily!
Faith is work.
It is a struggle.
You must struggle
with all your heart.
And on the way God
will ambush you.
1. oops..I should have focused on Martha.. 😉
Oh can I relate! I can relate with laura dancer-i dreaded the decorating part this year because now that I am working and with wrestling and those long tournaments-oh my..I haven’t had time to do anything hardly around here. So my house is disorganized-the walls need to be painted so bad. I just didn’t feel I could make it nice and ‘physically’ centered on Him this year. If my mind is stayed on the ‘wish I could do but can’t’ this year’-I have to ask myself to whom am I ‘serving unto’? Whose heart am I desiring to please? God’s or man’s. I don’t want to be double minded, yet I struggle with it. I think of the picture of that lady and her son giving thanks in hard times. Simply reading Dee’s post has helped expose something inside and helped me to turn around my thinking this morning.
I can so relate as well. Struggling with the full time job, and the day- to- day- keeping the house running, laundry , dusting, and exhaustion at the end of the day… And then I have to fit Christmas in!!??!! That’s why I’m here this morning. I know I have to set priorities, but sometimes I don’t like that way that comes out in the end, I have to let go of some things that are really important to me, but I just can’t do it all!! My BIG struggle is the envy I have for the women who don’t HAVE to work a full time job, wanting to get down-right snarly with them when they complain about not having enough hours in a day… Don’t they know I’m trying to do all they do and work 40+ hours a week besides?
I so want to focus on the Season and the King’s birth, but the 1/2 hour a day I’m reading about advent and focusing on our Savior gets lost in the rest. Yes, I am Martha and need to become more Mary, but I just don’t know how I can thin the excess down any more!! I don’t feel like there’s anything left to “let go of”.
Welcome, Ingrid! If you just have that 1/2 hour a day, I’m glad you’re here. Maybe if there is a thought or a Scripture that really speaks to you, you could jot it down and carry it with you and look at it during the day? (I don’t know what kind of work you do or if that’s possible)
Welcome, welcome Ingrid — love your smiling face and we will be blessed by your presence here. Even if you can’t read the comments, will love your input into the study. May He meet you!
Hi Ingrid! I have had those feelings as well! :/ Thankfully for me wrestling was over last week so I will have more time in the evenings than I used to-so I can get things done around here. 🙂 What helped me before I came here a few years ago is just to start somewhere-I started here on this blog doing Dee’s weekly bible studies, every morning early..Of course you can come anytime day or night-but that time I guarded and God has so blessed it-I know He will with you.
Welcome Ingrid may God grant such wisdom in your desire to set your priorities well, and eyes to see what can be “let go of”
Welcome Ingrid!
Inspite of the voices saying to the magi that “this was all folly” they pressed on. Aren’t there times we have to turn aside from those who say the same to us because we know we must press on–there is something more to be desired than temporary rewards or comforts.
Welcome, Karen. Glad you have joined us!
Welcome Karen! So happy your here!
Such a good insight, Karen — and welcome!
Welcome Karen! Thanks for this insight-so good.
Hi Ladies,
Ever since I heard Dee on Midday talking about her book, I’ve been compelled to recognize and confront my idols and find my way back into His intimate presence. I can’t wait to get her book!
My battles are huge, but I’ve found encouragment in reading your comments. Some of my idols have me in a stronghold, but Isa. 61:1-3 is the truth about the One who rescues me:
“…He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound,…to comfort all who mourn in Zion, to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that He may be glorified.”
May I join your group as you pursue His presence in this Advent study? I can truly relate to Martha at Christmas and all year long, but will have to share more about that later.
Cathy – I think you’re “on” now! When you first post comments, it has to be approved and then you’re on! I’ve been on for awhile reading comments this morning and yours appeared and a few other new ladies! We are glad to have you here!
Oh, good! So glad to read “replies!” Thanks, Susan!
We welcome you heartily, Cathy. I went to The Messiah yesterday and your scripture is ringing in my ears…
Comfort, comfort my people?
So glad to have you with us.
Thank you, Dee!
This scripture creates an image, for me, of my Lord as my strong rescuer coming to my aid at all costs.
I live in a rural, isolated area. It is difficult to find like-minded believers for Bible studies.
I am thankful to be part of your group.
Welcome Cathy!
Thank you, C. Swan. Glad to be here!
Welcome Cathy, so glad you are here with us!
Thank you, Rebecca!
Glad to have you here, Cathy 🙂
Thanks, Dawn!
Welcom Cathy!
Thanks, Joyce!
Hi Cathy,
I’m new too, and I also heard Dee talking about Idol Lies on Midday. Much to my surprise (and dismay) I found that I have a huge comfort idol. I have the book and zipped through it, but want to reread it more slowly, and then do the Bible Study. Would you like to compare notes etc. when you get the book?
Yes, Liz, I would like that. I may not be starting it till after Christmas, because I’m hoping to do the study in my home with other women. I think we can give it more attention after the holidays.
Thanks for asking.
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
I hope this all makes sense…
This morning I went to Church service and felt my idol working within me. I felt so frustrated because I was attending yet another service that would not satisfy. I tried to fight and believe God. I know everything is not about me but I think the sermon needs to be this or that. My idol is working.I am trying to re-read Idol Lies and in doing so I read Luke 10:40. In my Bible, I wrote the Greek transliteration of that word “distracted”. I had forgotten that I had looked that word up before. The Strongs concordance number is 4049 and the word is perispao which means “to draw different ways at the same time.” The word merimnao (#3309) is synonymous with this word and merimnao means “to be anxious”. So as I sit in church service this morning, I like Martha am perispao but I truly believe that I will not stay that way because there is joy, pure joy at the end of it all. Otherwise, I would not hang on. I would go to my usual substitutes for joy that I cannot disclose on this public forum.
So, in one sense I cannot relate to being perispao about all the preparations for Christmas season because I don’t have children and I don’t do Christmas decorations. However, in other sense I can relate because I am perispao about so many other things. When will I have joy? Why do I feel this way? Why can’t I get what I really want? Do I even know what that is? Faith is a struggle….
Hi Melanie,
I’m glad you’ve joined us! It does sound like you’re struggling right now and I know we can relate with you in the struggle with our idols. Perhaps the thing you really want – and the reason you’re here – is more intimacy with God.
Thank you Susan. I think…no… I know you are right.
Melanie — have loved your contemplations on distracted — how interesting that it is so close to “to be anxious”
May we each set our affections on Him — may He put a hedge around us so we find Him each day sometime — and more than that.
Welcome — welcome.
After my husband died I almost didn’t put any decorations up, but my children brought me a tree. I now find great joy in a little Charlie Brown 3 foot lit tree from Hobby Lobby — just it’s little lights reminds me of “Arise, shine, your light has come”
So glad you are with us.
Thank you. In my Bible study class on Psa. 119, the writer of the study has requested that the particpants contemplate the NEARNESS OF GOD this week. How appropriate. Do you think the Lord is speaking to me? 🙂
Melanie, you certainly have found the right place to help you in your struggle. Just reading of how others are struggling and their successes and failures in their journey have helped me tremendously. Knowing that we care and are praying for one another is a blessing beyond compare.
I agree with Dawn, you have come to a good place, stay with us Melanie, I will pray for you right now.
Thank you C. Swan
Welcome Melanie!
I had no success in trying to open Dee’s Bible Study Blog email link the way I usually do and had to get on here another way. Did anyone else have trouble? I would hate to see some new women try to get on and not be able to follow the link. Just wondering.
I am having trouble getting on. I have been posting comments, but they’re not being recognized. What should I do?
Cathy — I’m sorry I was so slow to approve your first comment — I got caught up in church and The Messiah and then fell into bed. But you are on now!
I didn’t mean to complain, Dee. I didn’t realize the process, and you are doing so many good things…I don’t know how you do it all!
Anyway, it’s a delight to be here!
I only had trouble opening the music video from Jesse but everything else opened. I also am doing this from my IPad so that may be part of the problem on the music video.
I usually just go to deebrestin.com and then “Bible Study Blog” (before I even get the email), but didn’t have problems. Glad you found another way 🙂
I went the email route and it worked fine for me.
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
For many years, I dreaded Christmas. My approval idol went into high gear and made me miserable, a regular Scrooge. Finally a friend confronted me on this and I began to stop letting others’ expectations (and my own) ruin Christmas for me. It is still a struggle. I have to regularly catch myself bemoaning my financial situation, and keep my materialistic desires in check, by refocusing on The Reason For the Season – Jesus, God’s wondrous gift.
As God’s little gift to me this year, instead of dreading Christmas, I find myself decorating the house a bit earlier than usual and singing Christmas carols. Although I don’t know what Christmas will bring, I am so grateful for Jesus that He is all that really matters. He is my hope.
Amen Diane 🙂 I pray you will feel his Presence!
Diane — i LOVE LOVE LOVE this testimony in the midst of all your pain right now. Thank you!
agreed, May continue God to meet you where you are Diane & May He bless your socks off this season!
loved this too “WITH A PEACE THE WORLD CANNOT GIVE…MOST OF THE TIME HIS PRESENCE IS GENTLE” I want to keep my eyes open for His gentle ways hidden in all the chaos the world can bring this time of year. I felt Him this morning at church–a friend who listened to my heart and then simply hugged me and prayed–that was a gift of His gentle presence, that can only happen in the Body of believers. I see how He uses the Body to bring His peace in a way the rest of the world cannot.
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
It is so EASY to be worried and anxious. I slip right into it. I begin to pray: LORD I CANNOT SEEK YOU WITHOUT YOU DRAWING me, GIVE me THE DESIRE, AS YOU DID THE MAGI, TO FIND YOU, TO SEE YOUR FACE, AND TO WORSHIP YOU. (Dee’s words from above)
2. Impressed with T.S. Eliot’s poem: I never heard it before that I remember in all my years. I had to look up a written version. (My closed caption was translating something more like Jabberwocky). It makes me imagine what the Magi might have gone through to follow the star. And I try to decide what it means that “this Birth was….like Death, our death.” And they were “…no longer at ease here” in their old lives and places.
Kansas — loved your reflections on The Journey of the Magi. I posted it once before with wonderful input — if you put No Longer At Ease in the Old Dispensation you can find those reflections.
Missed you Kansas!
I resonate with what it says above about being anxious and worried about many things… This Season i defiently feel this… I dont have much money this Christmas and have been really struggling with getting just my immediate family memvers gifts.. I have been very anxious especially making sure that i get my dad something.. I am afraid of being rejected if i didnt get him anything. I am also a giver so i am stuggling with not being able to give my close friends anythign either. I have been able to get my dad a few things praise the LOrd.. but Its defiently been different in that i was anxious and was really waiting on the Lord to provide some money so i could go out and get gifts… and not just going out and put everything on a credit card.
oh and i forgot to add that its not about the gifts its about Jesus.
Yes — and do you know what my favorite gift from my children is? A card in which they bless me, writing down some specific reasons that they love me or am glad that I am their mother. I’ll bet that would bless your Dad more than anything you could buy.
Welcome, Meg!
A card written from my children is the most precious gift I have ever received. I concur with you on this Dee.
Please be praying as I am facing a valley during the holiday. My husband left a year ago and I am in agony.
I pray that Jesus is enough in my brokeness.
My pain is deep after 34 years of marriage and 5 children.
Praying that I will embrace HIM!
Marianne,
I’m sorry for the heartache you’re going through, I cannot imagine the depth of your pain. I will be praying for you and I am glad you came here.
Marianne, your pain sends me to the Father on your behalf. Oh dear Jesus, with deep compassion I ask that you go to Marianne in her pain and brokenness and tenderly hold her close. Help her to embrace you and like Annie shared last week may she not back away from you in her sorrow. Thank you for bringing her here to this wonderful sisterhood of women who will pray down the heavens on each others’ behalf. Amen.
Welcome Marianne!
Oh Marianne — this is such a heartache.
I am so glad you are here.
oh Marianne, oh so sorry. I agree with Kim’s prayer for you–and am so thankful you have joined us. We will be praying you feel His deep love for you amidst such loss and pain.
Praying for you, Marianne.
Marianne, I am so sorry for your deep pain…I will be praying for you.
Good to see you here, Meg 🙂
Hi everyone,
I am Liz, from Twin Lakes, WI. I am married and have 2 teens and a 12 year old, and became a Christian in my teens. I heard about Dee’s studies quite awhile ago on Midday Connection, but hesitated to join. When I saw the current study involved “Seeking His Presence” I knew wanted to try to be a part of it – I’ve been wanting/seeking/struggling to have more of His presence in my life for quite some time.
I loved the Wangerin poem – it does seem like faith can be struggle, and YES, He does sometimes ambush us, when we aren’t looking. Today, in church, the sermon started out really, really dry – I felt I was in danger if wandering away in my mind and planning out meals for the week… but I uttered a quick prayer asking the Holy Spirit to help me get something out of it. By the end of the sermon I realized I had run out of room because I had taken so many notes. It was an amazing sermon. It wasn’t until I was driving home that I realized that God had indeed heard my half-hearted prayer, and graciously responded. Kind of like an ambush.
As far as the TS Elliot poem,I honestly don’t really get it – I need to spend more time on it.
Welcome Liz! What a great example of how God heard your “half-hearted prayer” and before you knew it, you had an overflow of notes!
Oh Liz — I lit up when I heard your thoughts on Wangerin’s quote and then that TREMENDOUS TESTIMONY — one we all need. How great He “ambushed you.” I can tell we are going to love having you here.
And for great reflections on Elliot’s poem put this in the search box of my website;
No Longer At Ease in the Old Dispensation
Welcome, welcome!
Welcome Liz 🙂
Liz we a community here of wanting/seeking/strugglers…welcome!
Thank you all for the kind welcome!
Welcome Liz!
Welcome, Liz. Love your honesty.
Welcome, Liz…I’m also from WI; the central region. I am fairly new to the study group…also prompted by a Midday Connection podcast with Dee. I truly love when God surprises with gifts such as the amazing sermon you experienced that started out oh so “dry”.
Dee, for we visual learners, could you post the words to the Eliot reading? 🙂
I’m the same way, Laura.
The Journey Of The Magi by T S Eliot
‘A cold coming we had of it,
Just the worst time of the year
For a journey, and such a long journey:
The ways deep and the weather sharp,
The very dead of winter.’
And the camels galled, sorefooted, refractory,
Lying down in the melting snow.
There were times we regretted
The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces,
And the silken girls bringing sherbet.
Then the camel men cursing and grumbling
and running away, and wanting their liquor and women,
And the night-fires going out, and the lack of shelters,
And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly
And the villages dirty and charging high prices:
A hard time we had of it.
At the end we preferred to travel all night,
Sleeping in snatches,
With the voices singing in our ears, saying
That this was all folly.
Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley,
Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation;
With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness,
And three trees on the low sky,
And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow.
Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel,
Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver,
And feet kiking the empty wine-skins.
But there was no information, and so we continued
And arriving at evening, not a moment too soon
Finding the place; it was (you might say) satisfactory.
All this was a long time ago, I remember,
And I would do it again, but set down
This set down
This: were we led all that way for
Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly
We had evidence and no doubt. I had seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.
We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.
Thanks Elizabeth! Helped so much 🙂
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
Martha wants every thing to be “just right”…she will work herself into a frenzy losing joy in the process and lacking the correct heart motivation in her effort. How easy it is for me at times to fall into this trap…I want everything to be “just right” and sometimes the motives for my actions aren’t quite right. I have made a concerted effort (beginning last Christmas) to catch myself when I begin to fall into this trap. I try to really note what my sincere heart motivations are and not do anything out of obligation or for appearance-sake. Just prior to last Christmas season I read a book that stressed creating a new way of celebrating Christmas by picking and choosing what I really liked and losing that which didn’t bring joy. It talked about cultivating an attitude of thanksgiving and a “less is more” mentality related to spending, eating, and fretting, and savoring the spiritual focus of the season. I do my best to focus on what really matters and leave the rest behind.
Such wise advice, Nanci J. May we take it to heart.
Yesterday I was able to be with Rebecca who lives in my city and we both mentioned enjoying having you on the blog.
Thank you for your kind words…this bible study blog is truly a blessing to me.
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
The ending always strikes me– “We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,With an alien people clutching their gods.I should be glad of another death.”
In my simple analysis, I think of how when we have tasted Him, when we have come to know Him and His Truth–we are no longer satisfied by what the world has to offer–we long for that Day, when we will truly be Home. But I forget this in the day to day and try again to find satisfaction here. I frustrate myself with futile effort and once again remember only He can fill me. And He will here, as I go to Him, cast my cares on Him–but I will be completely satisfied one day in His presence, face to face. And until that Day, I will experience a homesickness.
Homesick.
Yes.
Homesick is a good word to use to understand more deeply the fact that earth is not our home.
Also,God showed me how satan “distracted” me for many years while raising my severely disabled son. He had such a hold on my heart that it blinded me to all that God desired to show me during his 18 years of life.
What a waste and what a warning to gaurd my heart.
Thank you for the gift of this ministry by you being willing to serve the Lord in this format.
I am now facing another mountain and satan is trying to do a “repeat” on me as I face life alone now at age 55 due to a broken marriage.
Marianne, I feel for you in your loss of your marriage, hugs to you.
Marianne, I too have a disabled daughter, age 25, but she is not severe. She has cerebral palsy with seizures and is mentally challenged. She is with me 24/7 and I’m a light sleeper with her even at night.(seizures). My problem is concentration and patience, as I try to read the bible or lesson and she is by me watching her movies and talking to me or wants me to talk like her little animals (talking to her!). I have such a hard time spending time with the Lord, I pray he blesses me for trying! Also I’ve given up so much since she was born. I don’t have a life except her:( I love her deeply, but it’s as if I’m in another world. Other’s don’t understand. I’m 63 and married, but Kendra wants mommy to do everything for her and I do, but I have such a bad back and need new knees that I’m in pain all the time. I worry so much about her future without me that I want her to go to heaven with me…I know it sounds awful, but there is no one else for her:(
Joyce, I am praying you are able to find someone to help with the care for your daughter, have the strength to carry on until then and have peace. I have worked with/for disabled adults for the last 20 years and I know there are good caring providers and although the search and transition may be difficult -God will provide the strength you need to get through it. No one should feel they must carry the entire load. If you want any help with learning of or locating services available- please let me know. I have assisted several families with this very issue and it would be my pleasure to provide any help I can. ~rebecca
Very well said, Elizabeth.
I agree that, “when we have tasted Him, when we have come to know Him and His truth – we are no longer satisfied by what the world has to offer….”
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why? At times I spend more time and energy trying to make the perfect Christmas experience and miss the true blessing of Christ coming as light of the world. This is working toward earthly things that will pass away.
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why? The Magi worked for heavenly things. Their time, money and energy was spend trying to gain Christ.
Isn’t that the irony — making the perfect Christmas and missing it. Well put.
I have done this before as well 🙁 it is sad when the holiday is over and you realize it, right?
I hate to take away from the study, but those of you that are friends of mine on facebook already know, that my son got up early today (sunday) to let his one year old great dane out and she bounced out playfully like she always did, he said and in about 10 min’s (He lives in the country and she never run off), he called and called for her and she never came, so he went looking and she was dead in the yard. With the early frost and dead grass, he could tell she was just standing and just fell over. She wasn’t lying down or sitting…just fell right over. He lives alone and his dog is his only love and family (besides us). He’s been kinda in shock all day and evening. Kendra and I were out there this evening with him and his friends were there all day. He’s very upset.
The vet’s were he got her, done a autopsy today and 5 hours later, after the two got done, they found NOTHING wrong with her. No heart attack or anurism, nothing in her stomach to bother her and nothing in her throat (if she chewed on a stick), no wounds, nothing and she was only one year old.
After he called me and I was crying and praying…I remembered I was to thank God for everything…even the bad things that happen. It was very hard, but I thanked God for Domina’s dying. I don’t know the reason why, but God does and it is all in his will. I’m praying God is challenging my son to draw nearer to him through this and his last dog he lost about a year and a half ago, that wasn’t that old either.
When my son lost a friend a few years ago (he shot himself over a girl), my son would go sit at his friend’s grave at the cememtary and just spend some time and talk to him and grieve. One day my son said, as he drove there, he seen a big hawk sitting on his friends stone and it flew away as he got closer. He told me about that and I said I thought that was his way of saying he was fine and free and not to worry.
I forgot about that untill today. This afternoon, Kendra and I were swinging on the front porch, watching my husband put up christmas lights…it was so beautiful out for December. I noticed in the neighbor’s tree across the street…way up high, in the bare brown limbs, sat two love dove’s together, an unusal sight. I ask Kendra if she could see them and she couldn’t. But I think God put them there for me to see. I kept watching them for about ten minutes and I looked away for a second and looked back and they were gone. I didn’t see them fly away at all. It was so strange. I remembered one time that you ask, Dee, if we ever seen signs of things of God and I read not long ago in my devotion’s for us to be watching for ways God reveil’s his love. I felt like God was telling me everything will be okay. He knows how I worry about my son and daughter and son-in-law’s salvation.
For my son’s young dog, to just keal over dead for no reason and I am able to thank him for it happening, as hard as it was. Then God sends a sign..of the love doves…is all just too wierd. God has a plan and we are to just trust him in it, no matter what happens. Could I thank him, if my husband or child suddenly died? I don’t know, but this was a test for me, to put all my trust in God. I just pray that God is working on my son’s broken heart and my son will turn to God for answers.
Joyce, So sorry to hear about your son’s dog. Praying for him and for you as you comfort him and grieve with him
I’m so sorry about your son’s dog, Joyce. I’ll be praying.
Oh Joyce — I do pray for your son. Losing a pet is so hard — and this one a shock.
I loved how God ministered to you through the turtledoves, though. I can sense His love for you.
oh Joyce, I am so sorry.
Praying Joyce 🙁
Praying now Joyce That God will weave this hard thing into something beautiful in His story with your son.
Thank you for sharing.
I am sorry Joyce. I am thankful you shared how God helped you through this. Hugs to you and your son.
Oh Joyce will be praying for your son to try and see the good in this which I know is so hard to do.
So sad, and weird about the dog. But wow! to the doves! God IS with you Joyce! Resting in your faithfulness right now.
Ladies, could you please pray for my mom, Margaret? Yesterday she had some fit of delereium; saying strange things. CT scan normal, electrolytes normal. She is to be discharged from this horrible place, hopefully to a sub acute care unit on Wednesday. We are not sure they didn’t give her incorrect meds or something worse to cause this strange mental behavior. Please dear Lord remain close to mom. Don’t let these evil workers kill her before she can leave this awful facility.
Praying, Laura, for your mom. She’s been through so much. Praying for her protection and safety.
Father, I lift up Margaret and ask for your healing hand and wisdom for physicians.
In Jesus Name
YES JESUS
praying dear Laura–so sorry
Praying Laura
A SPECIAL WELCOME TO INGRIG, MELANIE, KAREN, CATHY, AND LIZ W — NEWCOMERS AT ADVENT. AND WELCOME BACK TO MEG AND KANSAS.
I’M SO SORRY I WAS LATE TO APPROVE YOUR FIRST COMMENT — I MADE EXCUSES ABOVE BUT SHOULD REALLY HAVE FOUND A MOMENT SO YOU WOULD KNOW HOW WELCOME YOU ARE.
THANK YOU SUSAN FOR FAITHFULLY WELCOMING EACH ONE.
EXCITED TO SEE WHAT GOD WILL DO IN OUR LIVES AND PRAYING YOU WILL STAY AND BECOME PART OF US.
Welcome to all the new ladies and the others who have been able to rejoin us. Looking forward to seeing more posts with insightful messages.
Morning all–wanted to welcome all these new sisters! My email was down yesterday, so I just now received ALL these new posts! Welcome Melanie, Karen, Ingrid, Liz, Cathy and welcome back Kansas and Meg! Thankful to have you all joining us
Thank you, Elizabeth!
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha – and why?
The opening lines about Martha – that’s me. And I’m not talking about (and I don’t think what Dee wrote is really only talking about) decorating, shopping, baking, etc…
Martha had some deep heart idols operating that made her boil-over with anger and frustration as she was cooking in the kitchen. I boiled-over last night, too.
My ravenous idols of power/control and approval were screaming to be satisfied and I lost my peace, I stepped out of the light and away from God, and my thoughts boiled and churned with some pretty ugly stuff and I refused to speak to my husband.
My daughter has wanted a certain gift for awhile, and I wasn’t sure if I wanted her to have it for Christmas – my in-laws offered to get it for her because she talked about it in their presence but at that time, it was a no-go on my part. So I’ve been doing some thinking and my husband and I had talked a little about it and he said something the other day that reassured me about it. So, we were alone last night and I brought it up and said now which one are we going to get for her because I’m okay with it now and he just stared at me and said I already told my parents they could get it for her – where have you been – they’ve been talking about it and I was waiting for you to get on board and so I told them to go ahead. I said you didn’t tell me they were going to buy it – why do they get to buy her the one thing she really wants? Now what am I going to give her for Christmas? So I didn’t speak to him the rest of the night, and this morning I tried to talk to him and now he’s not speaking to me! This is an old wound for me, too, because since my kids were small, they would buy them so much stuff for Christmas that I always felt like there was nothing left that they either needed or wanted, so I’ve struggled with jealousy and resentment, which I guess is the bad fruit from the deeper idols of wanting the approval and love of my children and to be in control.
Would you please pray for me? To many of you, this may sound really trivial, but I’m struggling. I know gifts don’t make Christmas. I know I need to forgive and I’ve no right to hang-on to resentment, in light of what Jesus has done for me. I need to let it go, to let Him be my approval and my control. But it is HARD for me.
I will be praying for you Susan! This sounds so hard!
Oh Susan, Thanks for sharing this. Praying that He will comfort you in your pain and heal those old wounds.
Oh Susan. I don’t want to throw you back “my story” to match–but let me just say I will pray with GREAT empathy. We did face nearly the identical situation a few years ago, but with my sister giving her the treasured gift I told my daughter we couldn’t afford–I tried hard to let it go. Then it happened again this year for her birthday, same sister. It is HARD. And the added stress you have already in this situation–I am SO sorry. I will pray for healing, for perspective, for understanding between all. Do remember you give your daughter already what NO ONE else can give. You two have a beautiful relationship–but this IS hard. I’m so sorry.
I will pray too Susan.
It is so rich that you SEE this, that you know where your battle is, praise God for that!
Praying also for a breakthrough with your husband, for unity in your marriage. I have such a hope for you here!
Love to you!
Oh Susan how I can relate, my ex-husband and his now 2nd ex-wife did that with my two boys. Boy how that can hurt. Will be praying for you.
Susan — I appreciate so your openness — and it is clear you know how to speak to your soul.
No one — absolutely no one — will ever replace you in your daughter’s eyes. It isn’t just the mother/daughter bond, it is a spiritual bond as you are giving her such treasure. I would say enter into the joy of what she is receiving from the in-laws and you will be part of it. I know it is hard, though, so I am praying for you.
Dee,
This ministry is a gift.
What I also know is that men could and may respond to a bible study blog like this.
Do you know of any?
I would like to recommend it to my son-in-laws.
What a need for men as well.
Blessings,
marianne
Susan, I will pray for you, and it doesn’t sound trivial…it is all very hard at times.
Susan, your struggles are not trivial at all!! If you can (honestly) say to her how glad you are that she got what she really wanted, it would be almost the same as giving it to her yourself.
I will be praying for more open and connected communication between you and your husband. Don’t let this ruin your Christmas season.
Susan, I’m so sorry, that is so hard to deal with…I’ll be praying
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
I have to agree with Elizabeth on this one… Homesickness yes thats how i think we should feel.. we should look froward to seeing him. Which is what the magi did they looked forward to seeing him, being with him etc..
This makes me think of the song Where i belong by building 429
Ladies
If you could pray for me today.. I have to go over to Burlington about an hour and a half away for a Jaw appt. I have bene ahving trouble since June of this year.. and go over for the second time to see a specialist.. it has been hard eating yawning etc.. it hurts to open my moith and eat or keep my mouth open for an exteneded period of time. Thanks!
Lord, we lift up dear Meg to You and ask that You guide this appointment with the jaw specialist. We pray that You would give him wisdom to be able to help Meg with this pain, and we pray your protection over her. In Your Name we pray
Amen to Elizabeth’s prayer for Meg
Praying, Meg.
Praying, dear Meg, let us know how the appointment comes out.
Praying for you
I’m contemplating the responses of the Magi to experience staying in God’s presence during this hectic season,since the Martha in me often overshadows the Mary in me.
Of the three suggestions of staying in the WORD, choosing His WAY, and WORSHIP, the description following Worship got my attention.
“May we find ways and quiet moments to worship, using music, poety, and WHERE WE GO IN OUR MINDS.”
For me, worship has always been a door into His presence. There was a time I was in continual worship, but as I let trials, distractions, and tasks interfere, I have fallen out of it. It once was such a joy and place of refuge for me.
I’m reminded of Ps. 22:3, “But You are holy, Who inhabit the praises of Israel.” It still thrills me to think that He inhabits our praises!
But what got my attention was, “where we go in our minds.” I have let my mind wander from meditation on His word and praising Him, to worry, doubt, and fear. (This has occurred over a span of several years of trials and very difficult, ongoing circumstances which would take a long time to describe. Maybe another day.)
Sometimes, I’m even awakened in the night by the lying voices that have replaced the love songs I used to exchange with Him.
I am determined to stop letting my mind run those toxic channels and once again purposely renew my mind (Rom. 12:2)and worship Him in Spirit and in truth with my mind!
Please pray for me, that I will bring each thought captive to Him, and choose to replace those thoughts with the truth of His word, and once again sing love songs to Him from the overflow of my heart. He is so worthy!
Oh Cathy, I love your honest sharing– “Sometimes, I’m even awakened in the night by the lying voices that have replaced the love songs I used to exchange with Him.” Praying for you as you asked–that you would bring every thought captive to Him–replacing the lies with His Truth.
Sorry too for the ongoing trials you have been facing–so glad you are here with us.
I agree with your prayer Cathy, taking the thoughts captive, recognizing the enemies lies and dwelling on Truth!
I will pray for you, Cathy. I so understand the battle that goes on in our minds.
Such good contemplations —
Father — please help Cathy and each of us to take our minds captive — back to the love songs — the carols — and away from the lies.
HE MET ME yesterday morning through this study. Will post later 🙂
Please pray for me today. I am distracted and anxious about our daughter’s situation. I can’t seem to embrace the peace God has for me today, even after study and worship and prayer. We have an important meeting this afternoon with Krista’s pastor. I would appreciate prayers.
Praying Diane, thank you for letting us know.
Yes, I am praying too, Diane.
What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
I never was a “Martha” when it can to housework or guests,that would be my sisters. However, now that I see the stress it can impose on the hostess. I do plan to be more helpful with my sister. She for sure fits the Martha role and is very meticulous with her house…which is a nice home.
So, my plan is to help her understand it doesn’t have to be perfect and let me help.
What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
I was praying this very prayer in church. This really gives me a great picture! Amen to this, this Christmas season!
Praying that our families and loved ones will “catch on” to our new “revised” perspective on Christmas as I remove some of the “clutter” of the Christmas of this world from my home.
That will start with removing the idols in my heart that would take up space that needs to be available for Jesus to shine in me.
Asking God to help me give up my agenda for His.
It sounds like Martha had an agenda and it really caused a lot of trouble for her!
Oh yes — may we remove our idols, our clutter, and our agendas that are not of Him!
What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
I thought how different the season is now that ours is an empty nest, the stress of trying to have “the perfect Christmas” for the children has ended, which is a bittersweet thing.
I am aware that I have to guard against a new idol consuming my thoughts, or rather maybe the old one reinventing itself, rather than trying to feed the approval and control idols by having a perfect Christmas, now I am drawn to controlling finances, with 6 children, 4 with spouses or fiancees, a grandchild, siblings, extended family and pets, the pressure to spend money we don’t have is real.
This is a slow earning season for me and most of the kids are now doing okay to good financially. My knee jerk control idol reaction is to stop giving gifts, period. Yet I do want to express love to them all.
Our church brought several ministries to our attention from whom we can purchase gifts that support wonderful outreaches. I am praying for wisdom & balance.
What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
I am glad you chose to return to this poem.
This stood out to me:
“We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.”
Reminded me of our discussion of Song of Songs, how once we have tasted the presence of God, nothing earthly can really satisfy us, we can no longer fool ourselves into really believing it will.
This is a good thing, a sure hope, but it does make life in this world feel sort of like trying to find a way to get along in a place where we really don’t belong. Which feels sad & lonely.
It touched me how closely my thoughts here were with Elizabeth’s.
The Lord knows I had not read comments before I began!
I so love that stanza too — going to memorize:
“We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.”
SUNDAY/MONDAY REFLECTIONS
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?- Wow as I was getting ready to open the study and start reading, I was telling myself, I’ve got to find more time for ME, to read, to be with God, to do what I want to do and not what others expect me to do because I’m the wife and mother in the house. I feel so overwhelmed at times I just want to scream out loud for the “other” things to leave me alone. I feel I don’t have enough hours in the day to get in all I want or need to do. I’m looking forward to this study and finding that time I’ve lost.
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why? – this one too I find myself complaining at times of the drive I have to get back and forth to work. Not nearly as hard or far as what the Magi hd but still I want to be closer to home and not drive 74 miles round trip . Yes, at times I get to hear Dee on Janet Parshall and I enjoy that, but other times, I just wish I had some one to drive me around so I could relax and take it all in. I have to re-examine my life of “stuff” so I can get back in touch with what is really important, especially at this time of year.
Thanks so much for the welcome Dee, and for having this study. I took your advice and checked out the previous study, “No longer at ease in the old dispensation.” It provided lots of light! Especially helpful to me was Diane’s comment:
“Back to the poem, the “Magi”, or kings, went back to their Kingdoms. “We returned to our places, these Kingdoms, But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation, With an alien people clutching their gods. I should be glad of another death.” And we, too, had our Kingdoms as well. We thought we were queens of our own little worlds. (I remember laughing at my 4-year-old grandson bossing me around one day and saying to him, ‘You think you are the boss of the world, don’t you?’ ‘Yes,’ he replied, quite seriously.)
Now Jesus’ birth has killed our kingdom. Jesus’ reign or kingdom has begun its reign within us. It is in the beginning stages right now. Yet, we are restless, beginning to realize that Jesus reigns, yet we so often do not see the evidence of His reign either within us or within those who claim that they are His, but we know that we cannot go back to the old way of doing things (of ruling our own kingdom) so we long for the final fulfillment and completion of Jesus’ reign, that it might become visible.”
I also loved what Elizabeth had said about traveling at night…”maybe as they/we mature in our walk with Christ, in our journey Home, we prefer to just keep going all night, no longer wanting a quick relief from the difficult journey, no longer wanting to entertain the pleasure of idols, growing always in our desire to have our eyes so focused on the Prize, on Christ…”
I like the idea of “traveling at night,” i.e. avoiding or limiting distractions that veer us off course. For me that could involve limiting my “iphone time.” I am a news junkie, and can waste tons of time checking my news apps, and then scrambling to make up for lost time wasted. I end up short-changing my family, my home and work duties, and my time with God.
I hope it’s ok to “steal” quotes from the previous year’s study, but they were so good, and very helpful.
so thankful you are here with us Liz. Love the quote from your grandson–amazing how kids can convict our own hearts with their honesty!
Loved having you refresh us with those quotes, Liz. Thanks for checking them!
I have been out of state for a wedding so I want to extend greetings to all the new ladies.
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
Martha it seems, was trying to find something in all her doing. In years past I went all out trying to “find” Christmas in decorations, perfect gifts and decadent desserts. I haven’t even gotten out the decorations this year. I simply don’t find real joy in all those things. I will do a little as one of my sons insists upon it but I have finally found Christmas and He is everything.
Dee, thank you for helping me find Christmas through this blog. Thank you for helping us celebrate advent. Beautiful lesson.
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
I am struck by the cost: Oh, how long the Magi journeyed to seek the one born King of the Jews.
It was hard work — but then, when they drew near to Bethlehem,
they were indeed astonished, amazed and ambushed!
They saw the star reappear.
They rejoiced with exceeding great joy!
They knew: it is true!
It is truth. Lord, help every woman here do the work of it and we long for you to ambush us.
Good to see you back Kim–always miss you!
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
His voice, always his voice….I get distracted and forget to listen to what he is saying!
I agree Laura–his voice is so compelling. Update on your mom?
Well, it’s not good 🙁 I will try to be succinct.
Yesterday mom was saying strange things when my brother visited. He alerted the nurses and they drew blood and ordered a CT. nothing abnormal with blood. CT appeared to have 6mm blood thickening on her brain. Brother left at 11:00 pm or so. At 2:00, he gets a call that she is unresponsive and eyes are “catatonic.” he quickly goes back. They have misinterpreted this situation as a seizure, and give ber valium! When she gets to the ER the team takes her blood sugar which is 40 (!). They revive her and the ER doctor calls the LTAC doctor furious. Meanwhile my sister in law is trying to get the CT scan results and wants them compared to those taken at the ICU 3 weeks ago. They don’t have them (!). She wants to determine if this is real thickening to know if it occurred in the past couple of weeks.
Very negligent on the nurses (my sis in law tells me). Apparently, standard procedure when patients are unresponsive is to take blood sugar reading FIRST. My mom is diabetic too! They forgot to feed her on Friday (!) probably why she was speaking gibberish yesterday.
They ended up taking her back to this awful place without telling us. we were hoping to have her moved on Wednesday but now that will be pushed back. To make matters worse, our family is struggling with the situation. My sister is supposed to be on her way there from Texas but hasn’t bothered to let us know if she has left, and my brother says he will call me back but doesn’t. I think he is exhausted.
I am just so sad for mom. She was a psychologist and would have done her job for free. I can’t believe these people won’t take care of her. It is killing me. I called the director again and said I thought this was negligent. I asked for my sis in law to be given the CT and MRI scans and for the blood sugar/seizure issue to be investigated. I just wish if it’s time for mom to go then it would be peacefully, not like this.
Oh, Laura. This is awful. Wish I could do something more to help, but definitely will be praying for you and your family dealing with this.
Oh, Laura – dancer, I’m so sorry to read this. How could they FORGET to feed her?? I know many places are understaffed, but that is extreme. Praying for your family.
That’s what i said too 🙁 mom is at that stage where she forgets to eat and just isn’t interested in food. She is the one who, on Friday, had to ask the nurse for food! She must have been starving. To think this facility was rated in fortune magazine as being the best in care in our country; unbelievable! I suppose a lesson for all of us is that healthcare in our country is NOT what it used to be and we better be on our toes.
ditto…I’ll continue to pray for your Mom, Laura. Craziness…
Oh Laura I am so sorry for all that is going on. I will be praying.
Laura,
I’m having a hard time even reading this. As a nurse, and I’ve had patients who seizure, my first suspicion would not be a seizure for an unresponsive patient. I remember once a patient who in the middle of the day became unresponsive and the resident came – the patient looked like she’d had a stroke. We did check her blood sugar and it was extremely low! We gave her dextrose solution through her IV and she came back like nothing had happened. And yes, not feeding (forgetting?) a patient is negligence. Does the staff forget to eat, I wonder?
The only thing I can suggest, if it is a possibility, is to hire a private duty caregiver to be with her in the facility. There are times when patients in the hospital will have a private duty aide who stays with them in their room and does all the hands-on care for them like bathing and feeding. Your sister-in-law who is the doctor needs to be documenting all of this. I hope and pray your mom can be moved quickly.
Thank you (everyone) for your kind words. My sister made it there tonight. I am hoping she can be a watchdog for the next week. My brother spent the night last night. I heard they removed the trach today but not sure how things are going. Good idea about the private duty aide. In fact if we get her moved closer to home I can tell the companion to begin her visits again at various times to check on mom. I had begun to pay her to come right as mom had the fall.
Laura, I am so so sorry–praying–please keep us posted
Amen. Let us know, Laura-dancer.
How did God woo the Magi to seek the one born to be king of the Jews? (vs. 1-2)
The Message says they were scholars, they knew a King was prophesied to be born to the Jewish people, and that He was deity, they came to worship Him. They must have been studying OT promises and God gave them inspiration to follow the star.
What are some ways God wooed you to Himself, both initially, and is continuing to woo you now?
He gave an me a desire to read my bible at an early age and an ability to retain what I have read, He keeps a yearning desire awakened in me, even when I have wandered as far from Him as I could, He kept calling to me & showing that He had His hand on my life, it makes me feel soft and humble when I think about it.
He makes me want to understand what is true.
I have such a growing vision of what we are promised, such a longing.
I feel better able to let go of grasping at the here and now in an effort to “be happy”
oh I loved this Chris–I started copying about half!–but especially loved this-“I have such a growing vision of what we are promised, such a longing.I feel better able to let go of grasping at the here and now in an effort to “be happy””
A “growing vision”–that is good–it is not stagnant–it is a constant transformation of our minds, our perspective.
The appt went great! I found out why i have been having so much pain etc.. I have arthritis in my jaw and the next step is to get a splint.. which is just a mouth piece to wear 24/7. Thanks for praying!
Oh — doesn’t sound like fun but I love an answer that will help.
1. What stood out to you from the comparison to Martha — and why?
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
I’m responding to both of these questions at the same time because yesterday morning, the light bulb came on — through both questions at the same time. During the last few months I’ve been gone a lot, and I was sick for a few weeks during the time I was home. In addition, I sometimes eat a little differently (more variety) on Saturday than during the week. Because of that, I don’t always feel well Sunday morning. Sometimes it is hard for me to get back to church when I have been gone more than I have been there.
Yesterday was one of those mornings when my stomach hurt. Plus, I was tired because I too much caffeine on Saturday. I even got up at 2 in the morning to see if this Bible Study was posted yet! I stayed in bed a little too long on Sunday as I whined to myself about not want wanting to get up. Then I opened this site on my cell phone (while I was still in bed).
I contemplated Martha, read the rest of the introduction to the study, thought about the first part of Wangerin’s quote, and listened to Journey of the Magi (and looked at the pictures). I don’t think I even got to the end of the Journey of the Magi clip before I tore out of bed. God was wooing me to Himself.
I realized that Martha got hung up on the preparations for Jesus, but the Magi pushed through the preparations to see Jesus. The images in the video clip made the words even more meaningful. I realized that the Magi had a hard long trip. They may have looked a little scruffy when they arrived where Jesus was. Sometimes, just the idea of getting dressed, doing something with my hair, makeup, etc is overwhelming. But God was wooing me to church. I wanted to meet Him there so badly that hair and makeup wasn’t a concern — and I didn’t have time to do more than comb my hair (I don’t do THAT much in the first place, and I did even less). I also realized that with the animals and hard journey, the magi may not have smelled very good! I did draw the line there and was clean 🙂
We all vary in the amount of activity, preparation, or getting ready we can tolerate before we become distracted or overwhelmed. And that amount differs depending on life’s season and stresses. But God is faithful ALWAYS. What is important for me to realize that the endpoint or focus of the preparations is Jesus. There’s nothing wrong with the preparations or the journey in and of itself, but when the preparations (often self-imposed) distract me from Him, I sin. It seems as if the very same things that can be part of honoring Jesus can also distract us from Him. I have to press on through the journey, knowing that He is wooing me to Himself. Sometimes (yesterday) I am very aware of His wooing; other times I’m more aware of the distractions and the pain of the journey. But I KNOW He is there waiting even when I don’t feel Him. I have the choice to get overwhelmed by the distractions or to put the “distractions” in perspective as they are part of the journey to Him.
I haven’t contemplated the end of The Journey of the Magi yet.
My Christmas decorations might consist of those I haven’t taken down from two or three years ago (a wall hanging and a nativity set) and one other “thing” I was going to donate but it hasn’t made it to the Goodwill box! I do have a couple other easy things that I bought for my mom that I can put out, too. It has become very clear that the end of semester grading has become a distraction from Him rather than part of the journey to honor Him. I think Martha could have done most of the same entertaining stuff but not sinned. She had a heart problem, not a circumstances problem. Me, too.
oh Renee, this may be one of your richest posts yet–thank you for sharing this beautiful picture of His wooing you–“Martha got hung up on the preparations for Jesus, but the Magi pushed
through the preparations to see Jesus.” Love how you acted as the Magi Sunday–and His gift to you
Thanks, Elizabeth.
Renee – I ditto Elizabeth – this is RICH! “Martha got hung up on the preparations for Jesus, but the Magi pushed through the preparations to see Jesus.” “She had a heart problem, not a circumstances problem. Me, too.” Love how seeing this got you on your way to church – not getting hung up on getting ready, but making it your goal to push through to meet with Jesus.
Oh Renee — thanks for sharing this. So exciting to read of you experiencing Him!
Loved this in particular:
I realized that Martha got hung up on the preparations for Jesus, but the Magi pushed through the preparations to see Jesus.
Renee, I was looking forward to seeing your post after you told us God had met you and I agree with Elizabeth, Susan & Dee, such good stuff!
“Sometimes (yesterday) I am very aware of His wooing; other times I’m more aware of the distractions and the pain of the journey. But I KNOW He is there waiting even when I don’t feel Him. I have the choice to get overwhelmed by the distractions or to put the “distractions” in perspective as they are part of the journey to Him”
Well said.
The “distractions” were and still are all part of satan’s agenda.
I must know His voice in order to not heed the “distractions”.
The still, small voice of the humble King.
Of course He will be kind, and patient, and ever so grace giving in His approach to us, EVEN though it may not appear that way. It is His nature.
Thanks SO much for sharing this, Renee…
“We all vary in the amount of activity, preparation, or getting ready we can tolerate before we become distracted or overwhelmed. And that amount differs depending on life’s season and stresses. But God is faithful ALWAYS. What is important for me to realize that the endpoint or focus of the preparations is Jesus. There’s nothing wrong with the preparations or the journey in and of itself, but when the preparations (often self-imposed) distract me from Him, I sin. It seems as if the very same things that can be part of honoring Jesus can also distract us from Him. I have to press on through the journey, knowing that He is wooing me to Himself. Sometimes (yesterday) I am very aware of His wooing; other times I’m more aware of the distractions and the pain of the journey. But I KNOW He is there waiting even when I don’t feel Him. I have the choice to get overwhelmed by the distractions or to put the “distractions” in perspective as they are part of the journey to Him.”
it has flipped a switch for me regarding my occasional distractedness…God IS always faithful despite my shortcomings.
Sorry, all. Need urgent prayer for Krista. Another really hurtful episode with her hubby regarding re rights to see the children. I don’t know how much more of this Krista can take. Father, help.
Dear Father, we come before You again and ask that You would grant You peace. Please come into this painful situation with Krista, her husband, the boys, Diane and all the family. Please bring Your Truth, healing, Your POWER Lord. We beg You to come and work in this. In Your Name we ask, Lord. Amen
Thanks, Elizabeth. We are all so hurt and confused right now.
Oh, no. Interceding for all of you.
Help Lord, please help.
Oh Diane I’m so sorry will be praying for your son in laws heart to soften toward Krista and the kids.
Praying, Diane. I’m so very sorry.
OH Diane, God help-I agree with Elizabeth-we plead for Krista, Diane and all of the family-that you would come in a mighty way and quickly-help Krista and Diane to cling to you, our hope!
Father, please have mercy — and uphold Krista. Please change her husband’s heart to want You and what is best for the children or remove him.
Amen…
So much appreciate everyone’s prayers. This morning God gave me the Morning Star as a visual reminder of His love. As I walked out of my bedroom, my eyes were immediately drawn to the early morning glow in the first window I saw. I walked to the window and immediately my eyes saw not only the orange glow but a bright star immediately ahead and above my line of vision. No other stars visible. At first I thought it was perhaps a plane reflecting the rising sun, but it did not move. It was the Morning Star.
Immediately I knew in my heart that this star was God’s way of saying, “I am still here. I am still in control.” I started to cry and pray. I thought of CS Lewis’ reference to earth as “the Dark Planet”, where Satan still holds sway, but Jesus is watching, waiting and is making His move. Satan is thrashing madly, knowing his time is short.
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
(Revelation 22:16 ESV)
“[I Am the Light of the World] Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12 ESV
2 Peter 1:19 (ESV)
“And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts,”
Jesus is the Morning Star. He is the light of the world. He is the light who came into this Dark Planet on Christmas so long ago. He is still on the move and, in His time, He will come in full victory and vanquish Satan and his angels.
Revelation 22:17
“The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.”
The tempest is raging. Rescue us, O Lord. Come, Lord Jesus. Rule in our hearts and in our lives. May the words of our mouths and the meditations of our hearts be acceptable and pleasing unto You, O Lord, our Strength and our Redeemer.
I had goosebumps and chills as I read this Diane, so grateful to know you are experiencing His presence during such a hard trial.
” earth as “the Dark Planet”, where Satan still holds sway, but Jesus is watching, waiting and is making His move. Satan is thrashing madly, knowing his time is short.”
Yes yes, may we hold fast to this truth, love to you Diane
Such encouraging scriptures depicting His light, love, and power. Thanks, Diane, for sharing them in the midst of your own pain.
Praying you continue to feel His peace and presence as He works in your family’s circumstances.
I LOVE THIS POST DIANE
I know this pain.
The heartache of a person who you think loves you (spouse) then turns their back on you with a vengence and a desire to destroy you.
I have lost a son at age 18 who died due to extensive complications from living with multiple physical and mental handicaps.
His death was not as painful as my husband leaving.
Can you imagine me even being able to say that?
Death brings closure. My son is in the arms of Jesus.
Divorce brings rejection, torment, and an unending amount and ongoing pain to the spouse being left and the family.
Marianne, I can hear such deep empathy in your words and thank you for opening your heart to bare the pain you have been through again in an effort to comfort me.
As an overview, read Matthew 2:1-12 and find ways God wooed them and ways they responded so as to stay in His presence. (See if you can find the Word, the Way, and the Worship.)
The word:
“‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for out of you will come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel.'” (Matthew 2:6 NIV)
The way:
“And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route.” (Matthew 2:12 NIV)
The worship:
“When they saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh”. (Matthew 2:10, 11 NIV)
I felt Gods presence the second I played the video and read “Emmanuel -God is with us”
BUT HE MAY ALSO SURPRISE YOU
OVERWHELM YOU
FILL YOUR HEART WITH EXCEEDING GREAT JOY!
I was not expecting it and honestly I still have no words.
But just wanted to say “thank you Dee”.
Thanks so for sharing Lyrices!
Yes thank you and welcome, Lyrices
4. Read Matthew 2:1-2.
A. How did God woo the Magi to seek the one born to be king of the Jews? (vs. 1-2)
They knew of the sign; the star. They knew when they would see it, the King was born. They waited and waited. It was something to look forward to in their lives.
B. What are some ways God wooed you to Himself, both initially, and is continuing to woo you now?
Well, i watched my mother faithfully do her Bible study, on her own, at our kitchen table, day after day. I watch church members continue to study the Bible, even though they seem to be well versed in the word. There must be something in this book that I need to know because others believe it is important enough to study often. This book is the number one sold/bought book every year, without fail. Why is that? There aren’t as many Christians in the world as there are other religions, yet it is so (say this in T.S. Eliots booming voice and you get the picture!) what is it about this book? He woos me with the unknown of it.
Love the picture of your mother.
2. What stood out to you from the Journey of the Magi and why?
-this reminds me of the Exodus, and also reminds me of what Dee wrote above that Faith is a struggle, we must struggle with all our heart and on the way God will ambush us.
That birth is like death- “I had seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.”
This life is hard and it gets harder when we come to know Him as we die to ourselves daily. What makes it harder is our nature that is bent, the culture around us clutching their gods-us so bent to running to ours-yet we sense a loss and underneath the whole time feel like aliens. There is death, sickness, evil, things fall apart, yet at the same time there is life-vegetation underneath-under the wet line of the snow-the windmill beating the darkness, our hope is in Him the now and in the future-clutching the cross instead of a god only Jesus can compel us to do-those who don’t know him aren’t compelled to struggle to quit clutching their god and turn unless He woos them. So it is birth and death-it is hard, daily.
2. What stood out to you from The Journey of the Magi and why?
It is good to ponder this along with Wangerin’s thoughts that “Faith is work. It is a struggle. You must struggle with all your heart.”
This poem reminds me somewhat of Pilgrim’s Progress. Many undertake the journey, but not all stay the course. It describes a physical journey but parallels the journey of faith, to seek after Christ. There were times of regret, of looking back fondly at the former way of life. Some openly abandoned the journey. The enemy whispered his lies in their ears that it was all folly.
When they reach the valley, there’s lots of imagery where I see Jesus hidden – the running stream, the three trees, the white horse.
This stands out to me: “this Birth was hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.” Yes. Our new birth means the death of our old self (“For I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live…” – Paul) Yet I see their transformation at the end where they are no longer at ease “in the old dispensation” and they see the futility of those around them “clutching their gods”.
The “Good News” doesn’t seem like good news to everyone. How did Herod feel, and why do you think (what idol might have been protesting?)
The wisdom of God is foolishness to those who are perishing, it is remarkable and sad that people hear the gospel and turn away, but I suppose in small ways that is what I do when I stay in bed or eat sweets when I am not hungry rather than living for Christ and being satisfied in Him. I guess that is in essence the work and the struggle of Faith, turning from those instant comforts and holding out for & onto something far better.
I would think Herod’s idol was control/power and that he felt threatened
Thank you everyone for your prayers.
I am very grateful for this ministry. This refuge, and support!
Warmly,
marianne
We are so glad you have come Marianne!
Why do you think “all Jerusalem” was troubled with him? (In the paid sermon, Keller gives detail into the fact that he was a maniacal monster.)
I had never noticed that phrase until this reading of the passage for the study this time, I wonder if the Jewish people had become accustomed to life as it was and were afraid of things coming apart politically, afraid of unrest and insurrection. Perhaps they would rather have remained in bondage to Rome than to have an uprising that led to freedom.
Sort of analogous to us choosing to remain idolators and in bondage rather than leaving those thing behind and experiencing freedom in Christ, no?
With whom did Herod consult? With the high priests & religious scholars
What might have been his motives, but how do you see God having the upper hand?
He may have been wanting them to believe he was devout and watching for the Messiah, we know he wanted to know where the child was in order to kill him. God used the information Herod meant for evil to help the wise men know where to find Christ & worship him
What prophecy did the chief priests and scribes quote, and what wisdom did this give the Magi?
From Micah:
“And you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for from you shall come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel.”
Where to find Jesus was the wisdom the Magi gained.
” I wonder if the Jewish people had become accustomed to life as it was and were afraid of things coming apart politically, afraid of unrest and insurrection. Perhaps they would rather have remained in bondage to Rome than to have an uprising that led to freedom.”
This reminds me of that old saying I have heard regarding new bosses….the “devil” that you don’t know is worse than the “devil” you do know. Or something like that. Meaning we are in painful “comfort” to some extent with the situation. If could be much worse with a new leader at the helm. Maybe that’s why the Jewish people were “troubled” with him.
Crying out to our merciful, all powerful God on behalf of Krista & family & Laura and her mom & family
Yes Father, I cry out to you also for them!
Oh I can’t wait to catch up on all these comments–I’ve been at work all day–but had to jump on to share this! A huge pkg just came from Amazon (I work for a different church than I attend) and it is FILLED with Idol Lies! Made my heart smile 🙂
Grinned when I read this!
That is sweet!
3. Find ways God wooed the Magi…
WORD – they saw the star. In addition to the prophecy, I think God used the heavens to speak to/woo them.
WAY – They obeyed God’s word and searched for the Messiah. They were sensitive and obedient to the leading of the Holy Spirit.
WORSHIP – The Magi worshiped and rejoiced and were exceedingly glad when they saw Christ – a good example of what we should do each time we are “ambushed” by Him.
4. A. God wood the Magi with both His word (prophecy) and through the heavens…like in Romans 1:20 I think: ” For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.”
B. God has wooed my to Himself with His word – when I went to a Christian camp in northern WI as a teen and heard the gospel with “new ears” and for the first time really understood what Jesus’ dying on the cross meant. He continues to woo me whenever the HS gives me insight into the Word, or when I see Christ in others and am drawn to them. Also, I am almost always drawn to Him in nature – the intricacies of plants, the sky, seeing wild life, the changing light of the sun, etc.
Do you live in Northern Wisconsin?
Nature does so draw me — and I’m a Wisconsin girl!
I wish! 🙂
No, I live way on the bottom, south and east of Lake Geneva, in Twin Lakes.
That’s a beautiful area too!
Loved you testimony, Liz, of God wooing you. I, too, identify with the wooing when the Holy Spirit gives me insight into the word, or seeing Christ in others, and in nature. Love these faith-boosting interventions!
I live in the country and love spending time with Him gazing out my kitchen window at our small pond and all of the wildlife that it attracts. All the things you mentioned of the plants, sky, wildlife, the changing light of the sun remind me of His great care of detail and order and balance and purpose…yet, still so many mysteries. There is such revelation of His character in His creation…(sigh).
3. As an overview, read Matthew 2:1-12 and find ways God wooed them and ways they responded so as to stay in His presence. (See if you can find the Word, the Way, and the Worship.) – They had seen the star rise in the eastern sky after they had unexpectedly arrived in Jerusalem and they then heard the message from the prophet that someone great would rise up from their tribe and rule over them so they followed the star that led them directly to where Jesus was born in Bethlehem. When they finally arrived they were in awe from being in His presence that they fell to their knees and worshipped Him and showered him with their gifts. They did not listen to King Herod about returning to him with where Jesus was because I think they knew how majestic He was. Being that we don’t really know where the Magi came from or how long it took them to get to Jerusalem I think the point being made is that they continued on their journey, not worrying about the time, but just wanting to be in Jesus’ presence and being obedient to the message given to them about the great ruler.