So many of you have joined the journey we have been traveling these last two years. We have come to think of Jesus as “The Stonecutter” who reveals, removes, and replaces the hidden idols of our hearts. Many of us felt that had to be the title of the book that is scheduled for release in October.
When I met with my publisher I was asked if I would be open to another title, and I said I would be if they could find a better one, but I felt an anointing on The Stonecutter. Yet if there is one thing I have learned in this journey on seeing our heart idols, it is that my predominant heart idol is control, and it has caused me, the Lord, and others grief. I really respect this publishing team, know they too are seeking God, and have expertise that I do not have. I didn’t want to be working at cross-purposes with God’s best, so I told them I would be open.
Along with a long and very dear letter of explanation, came this cover. I want you to see it — and then I’ll share some of their thinking.
I don’t know how you feel upon seeing it, but God did a work in my heart, for I loved it. I found it arresting.
Their fears about the title “The Stonecutter” is that people wouldn’t know what it is about, and many people never get to the sub-title. Also, it doesn’t address what publishers call “a felt need.” People want a book that will meet a need in some way — and this does, for people don’t want to be deceived, and want to be set free of those lies.
The Stonecutter imagery is still throughout the book, and the first of the three sections is called The Stonecutter. I have a peace about it, and hope you do too, for you are so a part of this book! I like the play on words (idolize) and we do need to see how we are being lied to, how these soul idols are destroying our lives.
Next January I want to do a study on this book, Idol Lies, and ask people to get the actual book.
Next week we are beginning a new study, which though it will also be on idolatry, will be on it through the lens of the fascinating book of Jonah. Jonah’s real problem was — guess what! A heart idol.
I also want to share with you another provision God has made for “Idol Lies” and the curriculum. There is a camera man at “our” Rebecca’s church who has a heart for ministry, and was willing to put together a video of her testimony. His name is Tim Mahony, and we’re pretty impressed with what he did. This is a rough video — he’s going to edit it more, re-take her interview in the shade, but I can’t wait for you to see what we are working on!
How God Set Rebecca Free From The Power of Sin
I am going to make the homework lighter for the next two months, for I know April and May can be as busy as Christmas time for women. Next week we’ll do a review of idolatry for those who are new (and I’m counting on the older members to mentor them!) and then we’ll dive into Jonah. I’ll list all the sermons at once, which include some free ones and 10 dollars worth of paid ones — but it will last us into mid June. If you think Jonah is boring, it isn’t with Keller!
This week I want us to look at Rebecca’s “idol lie” and how she found victory over it.
Then I want to practice some soul talk.
It’s going to be a great week!
Sunday/Monday
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title?
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
Monday-Wednesday: Rebecca’s testimony and Bible Study
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
B. Why are you here?
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are?
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do?
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her?
G. What is your heart idol (if you know — and you may not yet!) and how has it hurt you?
H. Rebecca compared intimacy with God to a stream. Have you experienced this with the Lord? If so, explain.
I. Can you encourage our new friend Tim Mahoney with comments on this video?
Thursday – Friday: Soul Talk and Sermon
I’m going to give you two scenarios where an idol can lie to you — and I want you to do two things:
A. Find the idol lie so you can run away from the idol that really will destroy you.
B. Combat the lie with the truth so you can move forward in faith toward the real God.
4. Let’s start with the lies Rebecca’s comfort idol was telling her:
Your life is so stressful (that’s the true part 🙂 ) you need this time at night to watch the news and eat so you will be less stressed.
A. Find the lies. (Be merciless and specific! Genesis 4:7 might help)
B. Rebecca told us she was afraid if she didn’t do this, that God would let her sit in her pain. She would have to suffer for a time — but find the truth in the following passages:
* Isaiah 40:29-31 (Imagine you are in Rebecca’s place and use this to speak truth to your soul.)
* 1 Peter 4:1-2 (Again, imagine you are Rebecca, and soul talk.)
5. Think of one of your deep idols and name a lie he tells you.
A. What is the lie? Have you experienced the pain of this idol lie? If so, share.
B. What is the truth that could help you move toward God? Will this involve suffering?
C. Also, take this same lie, and reflect on The Great I AM’s we studied during Lent and
speak again to your soul, refuting the lie that Jesus won’t be enough, can’t really
rescue you from this, with something that quickened you during Lent.
SERMON: This is actually a lighter sermon on The Great I AM from R. C. Sproul (amazing it is light considering the preacher!) — one you can listen to while you work. He’s got one main point, but it is a good one, and one that has stayed with me from his humorous illustration. Listen and articulate it.
http://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/attributes_of_god/ice-cream-cones-and-the-study-of-god/
6. What thoughts to you have on the above message from R. C. Sproul?
Saturday:
7. What’s your take-a-way for the week and why?
373 comments
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title?
I LOVE the cover and the title!!!! I LOVE the play on words, although stupid me didn’t get it until you said it 🙂
The picture would draw someone to the book because the eye with beautiful lashes is just that; beautiful 🙂
It also seems somehow a bit “sultry,” which isn’t a bad thing here because THAT could be an idol (being too provocative in dress/actions), and someone might need relief from that life style. Also, pardon the pun, but it “catches the eye” and people will be drawn to the book because of that.
How exciting Dee! I’m thrilled for you 🙂
Oh, Laura-dancer — you encourage me so!
I know most people won’t think of this, but they may after reading the book — the whole metaphor of heart idols making us like adulteresses — and this sultry image does work with that too.
Yes, yes! I agree. I couldn’t put my finger on the word and Laura has nailed it. “Sultry” and yet a quality of a woman from Biblical days. LOVE the cover so much.
Laura, I also love your review. You nailed the look. Sultry. That is how idols entice us too.
Oh Dee, the whole thing is wonderful. The publisher is very wise in this decision. Much does ride on that first glance at title and graphic. What victory for you in your personal idol struggle. How exciting! I love being part of this work.
Laura-dancer,
I LOVE your review of the cover!! 🙂
Dee, oh, seeing the cover here–so striking and captivating! It’s funny, the way my lap top screen is, at a certain angle, I couldn’t see the face–only the black hair–and the way it flows across, with the dark around her eyes, it looked like the wing of an eagle–if you tilt, you’ll see–anyway, I just think that’s kind of cool, God’s stamp beneath it…
And OH Rebecca–you just draw us in–I wish every bookstore could just play this video alongside the book–really! So honest, real, humble–beautiful you.
Elizabeth, REALLY?? An eagle! Like the lamb in Sally’s painting. When I get in out of the sun where I can see better I will check that out.
ok-my husband sees it too when i told him how to look–if you either tilt your screen back or just tilt your head back–you’ll see the shadow around her eye looks like the eagle’s eye, and the hair is His feathers around it. The first time I saw the cover that is all I saw, I didn’t notice her face until I adjusted in my chair—-anyway, kinda cool to me 😉
Okay — cool — I have to keep looking 🙂
Yes I see the wing.
Love Rebecca’s testimony! So powerful and so fitting to every woman. Love seeing her and her boys. Can’t wait to start the week’s study.
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title?
I love it, it is perfect. Oh, the woman…she is us, sisters. She is me! downcast, reflecting, searching and in need of a Savior, like when I came here – so desperate for a miracle, so desperate for Him to come through and save me from myself. She is every woman – the Biblical Rebecca on her camel hiding her idol under her skirts or a modern day woman struggling with addiction.
Neat comparison to Rebecca with her idol hidden from view of her husband, her father, her sister, everyone in the party — except herself. She knew, deep down, what she was hiding. Also, God knew.
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Where can I flee from Your Presence?… If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,” even the darkness will not be dark to you; the night will shine like the day, for darkness is as light to you. Psalm 139:7,11,12
Truly every woman, as you said.
Love these thoughts Kim.
I’m headed back to Kearney today for a funeral _ Janet Yost — quick trip
And Chris — love the every woman — she could be any ethnicity!!
Dee, so glad you decided to go! Will be praying for you all, and for Janet’s family.
dee-praying for your time there. i can’t think of anyone i’d rather have come sit shiva with me than you, so i’m sure the family will feel so blessed by your coming
Sunday/Monday
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title?
I like the title – idol lies, idolize – How Jesus sets us free from the idols we’ve built up in our hearts. I need this freedom. Facing the truth about our deepest desires — but I am not entirely certain what my idols are at the moment — certainly the need for security and the extreme need of acceptance by others. Are there other idols separating me from God’s perfect will or can I just allow Christ to conquer one overriding idol at a time?
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
Initially, I wouldn’t have thought of comfort as an idol, but I see how it could become one. Maybe it’s one I share with Rebecca. Excellent insight on the part of Rebecca.
oh Chris G.-Wow, I am sensing you are already willing to be open to His knife. He can set you free- even from the insidious deception of your idols. let him take one idol at a time-but pray and He will show you. I think as you do this study you will see it, and as you gaze on him-oh my, can our Almighty God come in! You are already on the right track!
You will learn some wonderful truths and tools in this study that will last a life time. It isn’t like any other study I have done, and I have done tons of them for the past 20+ years. There are great ones out there, don’t get me wrong, but idols block intimacy with God, so if you desire to go closer in and higher up in intimacy with Him-open your heart to his knife- His love will help you let go of your idol. He will take you closer in and higher up-it is HIS PASSIONATE DESIRE. YOU ARE HIS PASSION-HE WANTS YOU.
Oh Rebecca
This made me cry… Thank you for posting this You are his passion he wants you! Thank you!
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title? I really like the cover and title Dee! I looks kind of like a shadow to me.. I really like the title too Idol lies! I believe that it will drawn women right in! I know it drew me right in! Love, Love, Love it!
So glad, Meg!
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
I really like he honestness.. If i were to be video taped or whatever i would have not wanted to say that I was eating 3 pieces of pie a night! Its embarassing to me.. Yet she is seeing how God helped her overcome this and be free! There is hope for those who are in Christ!
I am jumping right in after only reading the introduction. I LOVE the book title with the play on words and and cover picture! I love Rebecca’s testimony!! And I love that you are going to be doing a study on Jonah!!!
I haven’t told you but I just started doing a 7 week study on Jonah using Priscilla Shirer’s workbook and DVDs. I am just in the middle of studying the first week and already God is SO speaking to me about how He uses interruptions to be Divine Interventions in our lives. Man, is my life interrupted from what I thought were my plans! It fits EXACTLY with where I need to hear and respond to God RIGHT NOW! Isn’t it great how God speaks to us from multiple, seemingly unconnected sources when He wants us to really GET a certain message. “Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening.”
I will be following this Bible study as much as possible but I will also be spending part of each week at my daughter’s place as well as hopefully continuing to lead our women’s Bible studies here at our church.
Diane, we just did that same study on Jonah by Priscilla Shirer at our church. I really loved it. So much to learn from Jonah.
Diane and Annemeredith — will be so interesting for you to have Priscilla’s study to compare and contrast! Hurrah!
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
The resemblance between Rebecca and her four boys, two with disorders, reminds me of my daughter who has three boys, one with some kind of disorder that has not been diagnosed yet. I think Stephen’s control issues are a major contributing factor to her stress. I really feel Dee’s study would help Krista, if she could take the time to do it. As I go to spend time with Krista this week, I pray that I can gently help her realize what her idols are and forsake them for the Living Water. She loves the Lord, but so much needs to have that love be practical in how she lives her life.
Diane, is Stephen Krista’s husband?
Stephen is the oldest son. He is very strong willed.
Diane, I will pray that your time with Krista will be great, all the while with her heart open to your loving advice.
I love the cover of the book! Love the look of it, love the woman’s downcast, beautiful face. And “facing the truth of our deepest desires” …that speaks to me. Excited to read this, especially since it will all be new to me, not having been a part of that study.
And looking forward to Jonah, I’ve spent a lot of time there this year.
Rebecca’s testimony is great, she is vulnerable and honest and beautiful. I like her ending, about intimacy being like a river with God, and the rocks that get in our way. Beautiful.
Anne Meredith, I’m humbled. You encourage me-my prayer has been that His love, and the intimacy part would shine through most. 🙂
It definitely did for me! 🙂 And your boys are precious. I love having two boys, and people always ask me if I miss having a girl. I tell them I can’t imagine it any other way.
Anne Meredith,
Me too. I can’t imagine it any other way! They are all four different, all unique. It’s funny, nothing turned out the way I envisioned for them when they were little-God has a different plan. I see God’s hand on them despite me, and I see His Grace upon Grace upon Grace…We so need Him every day!
Sultry eyes…but I see the eagle and am reminded that
” those who wait on the Lord, will find new strength.They will
fly high on wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not faint.Isaiah 40: 31. NLT
That is the only way we can see and tear down our idols and place Him on the highest place!!
Looking forward to the study.
Looking forward to having you with us JoAnne!
Oh Dee, I will be praying for you, as the weather is terrible in NE. Tornatoes spoted last night and today is more thunderstorms and 40 mile per hr. wind gusts. Everyone please pray for Dee safe travels.
I knew Janet Yost too, and didn’t even know she died, untill i come on here! I didn’t get to read the paper yesterday. Janet’s daughter, Terri and I were in 4-H together for 12 years and Janet was always so sweet to give us demistrations on cooking, baking and sewing and helping us girls to learn so much. She was such a dear ladie and will be miss very much. She donated most of their farm ground to the church..very valuable land..the church built on it.
Dee, I love the cover of your book, too and I can just imagine me looking for a book to help me be closer to God and learn how to get lies out of my life. Your book cover would do that for me, as it is capivating and imaginative! I think it will sell great and help many, many souls! I can’t wait to read it myself!
Rebecca, I am so proud of you! You represent all of us here with your comments. We each have our own struggles with something, and our own idols, but you put it straight forward and easy to understand idols for the average person. That’s what I like about your testomony. You were great!
Praying for Dee’s safety.
She touched so many lives. A life well lived. I was debating about coming cause life’s a little crazy and my son John said, “Of course you have to go.” And I knew he was right.
Yes — crazy windy here. Thanks for asking people to pray. A very windy 5 hour drive!
So glad your here safely, Dee
What strikes me about the cover of the book is the “pink glow”. That made me think of all the times I have tried to put a good spin on things or hope to distract myself or others away from flaws of my heart by putting something in a “good light” so to speak. Also, there is no eye contact- the eye is cast downward. I can deceive others better if I am not looking directly at them! There may even be times when I don’t look into my own eyes in the mirror.
Rebecca’s testimony is refereshing to me like the closing image of the stream. Honesty and humility have a way of bring refreshment to the souls of others!
I’m afraid Jonah and I have been on the same boat many, many times! I look forward to the study and reading others thoughts.
Welcome Lucy, or maybe you’ve been here before? Welcome again if you have. You will be loved and prayed for here…it’s like coming home:)
Lucy — welcome, welcome! Love what you said about honesty and humility refreshing others.
Hi Lucy! So glad you are here! I look forward to hearing your thoughts as well!
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!) She was missing intimacy with God!
B.Why are you Here? I am defiently missing intimacy with God, and want God to be my comfrot instead of other women.
Lord, I pray that you would help me have a deeper intimacy with you and that you would be my comfrot it is so easy to go to other women cause they are right there physically to give me a hug or pray with me.. But Lord you are also right here with me even though I dont see you. I pray that I would be more aware of this and come to you when i am feeling Lonley.
In Jesus Name
That’s good, Meg. A prayer He will hear for it is in the center of His will.
Praying your prayer for you along with you, Meg!
Sermon was on Hosea yesterday 🙂 Perfect refresher to start this week.
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title?
I like the cover — very attractive and it gets my attention. I’m more likely to consider a book if the front cover and title catch my attention. But I very rarely buy a book just because of the cover or title itself. The title is very clever, but what really grabbed me was what came before, “how Jesus sets us free,” and after, “facing the truth about our deepest desires.”
If I haven’t read anything by (or about) an author, the front cover and title are an important first step (but then I go to the back cover (or the online description) and table of contents. (Sometimes this is true even when the book is free/used/cheap!)
An example of how I buy books: I recently read a discussion about “How God Became King: The Forgotten Story of the Gospels” by N.T. Wright. I’d read a couple of his books before and debated about this one, but the discussion was what “pushed” me to buy. But I needed more books/stuff to get free shipping. One of the books that was recommended (probably based on this book, but also what I had read before) was Tim Keller’s “King’s Cross: The Story of the World in the Life of Jesus.” The cover for that definitely did NOT attract me; I wasn’t even particularly interested in ordering two books that sounded so similar. But I was too tired to spend more time looking for books or stuff I didn’t need (these weren’t the only ones I’d ordered in the past week!); I didn’t even read the description or T of C.
So, Dee, I think you have a winner — good cover to catch people’s attention & get “new people” and good author to get us “old” ones 🙂
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
Rebecca, thanks for your honesty. What stood out to me was Rebecca’s honesty and that God changed her, not her external circumstances.
Renee, so glad you picked up on that about God not changing my external circumstances, but changing me. 🙂
I think that we want so much to get out of our forever trials and oh I understand! Sometimes God does provide relief, and sometimes miraculous healing! Yet sometimes there isn’t relief or healing. The beauty is, regardless we have Jesus who is our refuge, and when we bask in His presence He strengthens us in the midst of suffering. He doesn’t promise relief from life’s circumstances, but he does promise to be our refuge and strength as we turn from the beckoning call of our idols and place our hope in Him.
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
She was missing intimacy with God.
B. Why are you here?
My church no longer does bible study groups at the church, it is now small groups that meet at peoples’ homes. Every one of the groups meets on a weekday night. That is when I am at work so I have pretty much lost touch with the women in my church. After a death in the family my life has taken a downward spiral. I had been invited to this study after filling out a card when I went to hear Dee speak at a retreat. I knew that I needed a boost to reconnect with God and other people. When I checked it out, they were in a study about suffering. EXACTLY what I needed, praise God!!
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
This will be easy, I don’t have a problem with idols. Because, like most of us, she didn’t have a true definition of idolatry. For us, it’s not about worshipping statues. It’s about making anything the ultimate thing above God. The thing we won’t live without.
Dawn M. S. — didn’t realize that is how you came on or the story behind it. So good you to have you here. You have blessed us with your comments and presence.
Dawn, M.S. so awesome to hear how you came to Dee’s blog! 🙂
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title? I just love the way the title and the book cover came out! I think it is what will sell books! The cover is key and it really struck me. My husband really liked it too and said, it does look like everything I have been telling him about all along. So I think too that this is the right way to go! I really love it. It is good that all the info will be in there and you want people to pick it up in the first place so yes this looks great! So excited for you Dee! I feel like it is our baby though it is yours! 🙂
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
Jonah! So crazy but I wrote a Bible study on this last year and man is it an amazing book packed with so much!! I also picked up Priscilla Shirers. So it is funny how themed things go. God has more for me to learn I am sure! He has done this with several book I have written studies on. James is one that is going on right now. So wonderful!
So glad you like it Angela. And it is “our” baby.
Oh — that means you will have a wealth of wisdom for Jonah. Hurrah!
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!) Missing intimacy with God.
B. Why are you here? To be conformed more into His image by good teaching and mentoring and great fellowship. Initially I think too it was something was missing in my life. Probably intimacy.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why? That will be easy for me. I don’t worship statues.
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are? Too close. 🙁 I can see all three from time to time. However, probably the biggest one that is current is control. When it comes to my children. They are still under my roof and I am to discipline them but I cannot control their hearts. That is something I can only entrust to God’s care.
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do? I like this, “Those who cling to worthless idols
turn away from God’s love for them. It is so true…We cannot have a heart serving two things!
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her? Comfort. Food, her time, etc. She ran to this instead of God losing intimacy with Him over functional God’s. How I often want to run to my own time too just to chill.
G. What is your heart idol (if you know — and you may not yet!) and how has it hurt you? Control, yelling and trying to control those I love and that lack of gentleness hurts them and doesnt help their hearts do the right thing..
H. Rebecca compared intimacy with God to a stream. Have you experienced this with the Lord? If so, explain. Yes. I hate it too when rocks get in the way!
I. Can you encourage our new friend Tim Mahoney with comments on this video? I really enjoyed this video. The back grounds were great and filming the realness of the boys was great too!
Rebecca you are just so precious! I loved this and your honesty! Beautiful!
1. What are your comments on the cover — the title? I really like it. It is very eye catching. I would pick it up and check it out if I were browsing a book store.
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
Missing intimacy with God.
B. Why are you here?
I saw a place where I could have fellowship with other Christian women, learn some new things about God’s word and apply it to my life. And to get closer to my Aunt Dee. 🙂
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
That it would be easy, she didn’t have a problem with idolatry. She didn’t worship statues.
Anne Meredith — you are melting my heart. The little girl I fell in love with has become a beautiful woman.
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
I like what she says about God’s love was passionate and when she saw that she wanted to go to Him for comfort. Also that God didn’t take away the circumstances but gave her peace and joy through them and restored her intimacy.
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)She was missing intimacy with God.
B. Why are you here? Initially I came b/c I demanded He give me victory over an area of my life that was out of control. I stay because I love what God is doing here among us. I am learning to love Him, not for what He can do for me, but because He loved me enough to lay down His life for me. He wooed and loved me when I was unlovable (still am sometimes) and the teaching is helping me overcome idol worship, grasp that He loves me b/c He is love and not based on what I do or don’t do and I am growing in my intimacy with Him.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why? She didn’t grasp what idol worship was until Dee, by example, showed what idol worship truly was and Rebecca’s eyes were opened so she could then identify her own idol.
Kim, Kim — I feel like framing this:
I stay because I love what God is doing here among us.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why? I dont have a problem with this.. Isnt idolotry worshipping stone idols or my job..
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are? Oh i know full well what they are! Comfort, Security, and Control. Its so hard for me not to look to other people for comfort but I am trying!
Were you with us Meg when we looked at “The Expulsive Love of a New Affection?”
Dee, No i was not…
Okay — (by the way — I do pray you have a sweet day with your mom!)
You might want to look up that post about the expulsive love, but in a nutshell,
we can’t change by trying really hard. Idols cannot be removed — only replaced.
It’s like some leaves cling to the branches all winter and won’t leave until the new ones come.
I love it that you are praying more to fall in love with Jesus.
I love it that you are doing the study, pressing in — and finding fellowship at church.
That’s the secret– letting His love rise in you.
Dee is it called How we CHange? Just went though all of them and thats one that i found and another was on Karla Faye Tucker? You have so many Good Bible studies Dee! On friendships and homosexuality!
Never Mind Found it! 0:)
love the title, love the cover, wonderful! I am always amazed how God joins together all I am learning. our devotion this morning was about not insisting on God doing things your way….that faith is being willing to receive whatever HE wants to give and be willing to not have whatever HE does not give…..control idol does not like that much….just sayin. also goes right along with Jonah.
loved your testimony Rebecca. i liked the end of the video where just the water was running, and i loved how he panned to you and your boys.think it would be cool to start with the running water too, but raging rappids that cant be tamed and you saying something like “thats what my heart used to feel like”. will be much better in the shade, could not see your expressive eyes:-( i liked it a lot because you life is really crazy, most people cant look at it and say “yeah thats easy for her to say” cuz you DO have a stressful life yet God came in and rescued you from your unhappyness by showing you HIMSELF. loved that!
I love your idea — about the water– I might suggest it to Tim — though he’s working so hard for so little — but love your idea!
Cyndi, So encouraging! Great ideas too. I agree-I think when we re-do the testimony in the shade it will be better as far as the squinting issue.
I didn’t think about that, that women can’t look at it and say, that is easy for her to say..Good thought.
1. I really like the cover and the title. The word that the cover suggests to me is seductive which speaks deeply to me about idols and how we are drawn to them. Usually an adulterous woman did not just decide that she was going to go out and commit adultery. Some do, but most of the time she is enticed by some craving within her. Someone takes advantage of her own unmet need or desire to draw her away and into a trap. I think that is how idolatry works, more like a 2 part thing. Satan tempts our flesh.
You know — I didn’t put that together at first — but so true — so good. Anne would see this — I love that about you.
Thank you Dee. But sometimes I confuse myself :]
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2. I think Rebecca did a beautiful job of revealing the stranglehold of idolatry. She exlains so well her struggle and her feelings as she went from chains to freedom. I think it is an awesome testimony! I like the water images too.
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1. What are your comments on the cover — the title? The cover of the book looks mysterious to me. Looks like she is grabbing at something behind her. I love the title too. I think it will definitely make people stop and think about it and what their deep desires may be. And knowing that Jesus has set us free from them will give the reader hope, that they can overcome all idols and obstacles in their lives but Jesus is the One that sets us free from them.
Dee thank you for allowing Jesus to work thru you and to be open to your publishers suggestions.
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why? How willing she was to accept that she did have an idol and to be open about it for us and others who may be struggling to admit they have the same issue with idols of any kind.
Rebecca it was good to see you too and I now have a closer picture of you to put with your name. Makes me feel like I know
Julie P., You are so sweet! And I loved your encouragement to Dee too!
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? Desiring more
intimacy with Jesus.
B. Why are you here? I had just read Dee’s “God of all comfort” book and I was affected so deeply by it. It told about the on-line study in the back of the book, I believe, so I went to it and read some comments from other ladies and felt myself being drawn to them about suffering they have had. I needed fellowship with other christian women that would understand my pain and sorrows, too.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why? Rebecca’s reaction was exactly like mine was, in the beginning. I thought stone idols or golden calfs were not anything I would have trouble with leaving! I couldn’t imagine me having idols!
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are? After I read how Dee was explaining the different idols we could have, I started to understand more about it and thought to myself…”I have ALL of those idols”! That was a scary thought!
So then I tried picking the idol that I was running to the most, and not to God. It was food, too. Comfort and Control both were the two worst idols I HAVE. I wanted to type HAD, but it is a constant battle for me, I still HAVE them in my life and am working and praying that God is the only one I run to..NOT to my idol!
I think I’ve been on this blog about 2 yrs. Then after sharing so much about my life here on the blog, I was getting feedback from my sister’s here about the pain I’ve been through and about me being so vulnerable and I enjoyed the sympathy! So after the study on Idols of our heart’s, I realized I was satisfying an idol of mine right here on Dee’s blog! For Empathy (comfort). It fed my soul. But I don’t want anything to feed my soul, except YOU, LORD!
It’s like I’m standing in the stream, with the water rushing by my bare feet(life flying by) and I hate all the rocks (idols), because they are sharp and can cut deep, (deep sin’s into my soul) and I try to feed the fish (to satisfy the empathy I need), but I get no bites (no satisfation to feed my idol of comfort) because it’s not coming from the Lord, it’s coming from my own selfishness and desire. So the fish (my idol), has to go hungrey, because I’m running to my Lord for satisfation and to fill the void in my heart. That’s the only way I will ever feel satisfied and full!
Thank you so much for showing me what an idol is, Dee, because without your study here, I may have never known what I was running to for comfort, or for controll, instead of running to Jesus!
This post is so full of honesty and love, Joyce — like you. You are such a gift here — for you are so other-centered.
Totally agree with Dee, Joyce-you are such a gift here and you are indeed other centered. I learn a lot from your living example of His love.
Joyce,
I love your metaphors here of “standing in the stream…water rushing by(life flying by)….the rocks(idols)”….it’s all so real and really describes our battles with idols. I think we all can identify with getting feedback from our sisters here on the blog and receiving empathy – that it can become an idol (comfort) too – I think it’s a really fine line because that is what Christian fellowship is partly for, too, so we can love and encourage and hold each other up – God made us for relationship with others, but yes, we can at times look to our sisters in Christ for that comfort before we turn to Christ Himself.
Very insightful, Joyce.
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
She was missing intimacy with God.
B. Why are you here?
To keep myself in “check.” Life is WAY too busy with work, family, and things that really aren’t as important is knowing God. I want to know more about the Bible. I want to know what God wants from my family. I have always known that God cares about me. I have also wondered why we struggle so much as well. There must be an answer in the Bible that I haven’t been able to understand.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
She didn’t think she had an idol because idolatry meant worshiping stone figures and such to her.
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are?
I think idols are things that take you away from God. It could be almost anything, if your heart is more focused on it than on God’s word. I must have a gajillion…eating, control, work, exercise, my kids, and many more that I don’t even recognize. I’m not sure I am entirely understanding of idols; it helps me to break things down and focud on one thing at a time. Sometimes I get confused.
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do?
“Those who cling to worthless idols
turn away from God’s love for them
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her? Comfort,Food , she wanted to run to that for her alone time instead of the Lord.
Ladies
Heading shopping today with my mom please pray it would be a sweet time.. Her birthday was yesterday too.. so i really want it to be a sweet time.. Special time together 🙂
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog?
God was drawing her to Himself—she wanted more, a deeper relationship with Him. She responded to the Holy Spirit nudging her that while she had tried to fill her empty places, it wasn’t working.
B. Why are you here?
I came originally looking for something online, not even sure if they existed, certainly didn’t expect this place! When I began reading old posts and the depth among the women, the vulnerable, honest sharing—the desire to not just “vent” but to really grow as a woman of God—I saw it among this group, and I wanted to be a part of it. When I saw how humble, honest and personable Dee is—I was hooked. Now, you’ll have to take down the blog to get rid of me 😉
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
Looking at the culture’s definition of idolatry, it was hard for Rebecca to see where that fit into her life. She felt justified in having “her time” at the end of the day—it’s very relateable. Our world tells us we deserve to be happy and when things are hard or stressful, we have the right to comfort ourselves.
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are?
With my current circumstances, I’m seeing more and more of control—thankfully, right now I am seeing more and more melting of control over how things are done or being efficient/productive. It’s been hard but He’s letting me see SO much fruit and how it effects those around me that I am really thankful.
THIS IS BLESSING ME SO
I came originally looking for something online, not even sure if they existed, certainly didn’t expect this place! When I began reading old posts and the depth among the women, the vulnerable, honest sharing—the desire to not just “vent” but to really grow as a woman of God—I saw it among this group, and I wanted to be a part of it.
AND I’M SO GLAD WE CAN’T GET RID OF YOU. YOU ARE A TREASURE.
Elizabeth, Thanks for what you wrote for A. “God was drawing her to Himself…” So encouraging for me to realize that that is why all of us are here!
1. What are your comments on the cover – the title?
I like the title, and how it says that Jesus can set us free from idol lies. I agree with Laura-dancer’s word – sultry, and Anne’s – seductive. The woman on the cover does not look free. Her eye is closed; we usually “close our eyes” when we don’t want to face the truth, or look away when we want to deceive. I think the sultriness or seductiveness of the woman on the cover is a result of what the idols in our lives do to us – they entice, deceive, distort, warp us; and the Bible says we become like the adulteress in the arms of another lover. Also, the lowered eye can also be a picture of shame. We become ashamed of what we become when we are in the thrall of an idol.
2. We’re going to look at Rebecca’s testimony in more detail, but for now, what stood out to you and why?
The whole thing was wonderful! Rebecca is so clear and concise at pulling it all together, from her beginning the study, to what she learned during it, and how it has changed her life. I love her honesty – yes, humbly admitting to 3 pieces of pie! But it makes the point that our idols will demand more and more of us. It was so good to “see” Rebecca and those precious boys we hear so much about – how I wish I could join them in the park and walk and talk with them! Rebecca is very real and down-to-earth and she did a wonderful job of explaining what this study is all about.
A. to get closer to God,
B. I came on here after meeting Dee at our church. we have a lot in common (including our idol:) and wanted her as a mentor.
C. I dont have an idol! that was mine too:)
D. understanding them is not the problem! its getting rid of them that is:-) I know that I miss the grace when i choose an empty idol over intimacy with our loving God. the best thing I learned is that you can not work harder to get rid of an idol, you have to replace it with the real thing. The place I have seen miracles in is my marriage. I have learned that men do not like to be controled;-) and that my fear that I would not be taken care of if i didn’t control things made me hard to live with. I was (and still am more then I would like to admit) very hard to please. the idol of controle(perfectionism/approval) was killing me and stealing all of our joy.
must start school, this puppy is stealing my bible study time!!!! but she’s also working on that control idol…so I guess its a good thing:-)
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
missing intimacy with God
B. Why are you here?
A few years before Dee started this Bible Study, I scrounged the Internet looking for some kind of online/distance Bible study or group. I, too, was missing intimacy with God and missed participation in a small group. Due to caregiving responsibilities, it was hard for me to be away from home more than I already was for work. I only found one group, a paid one, emailed and learned that the group had been discontinued. I considered taking an online graduate course from Moody and also stumbled into the concept of Christian life coaches. I did end with with a coach.
When I was searching for an Aslan gift for someone, I found Sally’s painting/poster on Dee’s web site and signed up for her email list. When the first Bible Study on “the God of all comfort” started, I joined the group. At that time, I would have joined a group on any topic! God knew how soon I would be experiencing more intense grief and would be claiming everything I learned in that study. I had been waiting, and in His time, He provided..
C. When she saw it was on idolatry — what was her initial reaction and why?
“I didn’t think I had a problem with that.” 🙂
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are?
I definitely know now that I have idols! Control is the biggest/worst. In terms of understanding, I’m still wrestling with the ideas — I’m not sure all my idols can be categorized.
Also, when I go on an “idol-hunt” on my own strength, the hunt itself distracts from my intimacy with Him. What draws me to Him is when He shows me the idol (often through my unhappiness with something/someone), and then I seek Him because of His love and my helplessness.
I also see that the idol of control is very deceitful. It’s tempting to “control” idols by turning idol control into a formulaic, step-like process in which the end goal is to control the idols rather than to have intimacy with Him.
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do?
“Those who cling to worthless idols
turn away from God’s love for them.”
Quite a story Renee — God definitely brought you here for us too.
This is a very powerful statement, Renee “Also, when I go on an “idol-hunt” on my own strength, the hunt itself distracts from my intimacy with Him. What draws me to Him is when He shows me the idol (often through my unhappiness with something/someone), and then I seek Him because of His love and my helplessness.” Such good insight.
As I was thinking about this it came to me that an idol search is in itself a type of control. Thinking I’m going to go, I’m going to search, I’m going to find and I’m going to expel that idol.
We definitely need to search our hearts when he reveals things to us by the Holy Spirit, but there can be a problem when we go off on an idol-hunt on our own.
Thanks for your prayers for my funeral trip. Janet tutored both of our youngest daughters in English. The fragrance of Christ, she was. I’m so glad I went.
I’m so glad you came too, Dee, as I’m sure it meant alot to the family. I wish I could have went also, but can’t walk very far. Janet was a example for all of us women, to live for the Lord and to help other’s and to volunteer and always have a smile on our face!
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do?
WOW. The NIV it says “Those who cling to worthless idols forfeit the grace that could be theirs.” I like the Message version too: “those who worship hollow gods, god-frauds, walk away from their only true love.”
So we instinctively run to an idol looking for a fix—and at first it may appear to help, but the longer we linger there, we are refusing the Grace that He died to give us, and we walk further and further from the only One Who can truly, deeply love us and fill every void.
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her?
Rebecca’s idol was comfort. No matter how many times I’ve heard her story, I never cease to be drawn in and amazed. It’s so understandable—she has a “stressful” set of circumstances—even the sweet blessings of her loving husband and the boys, it is a full plate. And I relate to the feeling that she had “earned” her own “time”—to relax, indulge….and YET. I know too the destructive cycle…the slippery slope and how the comfort she was seeking only hurt her deeper. The idol didn’t care for her, didn’t love her back—only HE can do that in our deepest need.
G. What is your heart idol (if you know — and you may not yet!) and how has it hurt you?
My efforts to try to manage life, to control things—always in the hope of keeping things “even-keeled”—it’s ironic because I am motivated by a fear of chaos and yet the desire to control every detail has led to more stress than any chaos in my past. My efforts to control my world has caused relational problems, health problems, and at times crippling fear.
H. Rebecca compared intimacy with God to a stream. Have you experienced this with the Lord? If so, explain.
It’s funny, a new thought just came to mind on this—I imagine the stream, and God is the source of it’s Life. At times, it is obviously free-flowing and the water is clear, serene, reflecting the Light. But often, as Rebecca mentioned, rocks get in the way. Even further, there are the times when more than a few rocks—I remember as a kid trying to build dams across a small stream and block the water—but ALWAYS, the water found a way through. And so I picture that He will always pursue His own, we cannot run from Him, we cannot hide. Yes, I love it when the intimacy is free-flowing, but it comforts me to know, I am not strong enough to keep Him away. I am His, He is mine—and He pursues us, no matter how many rocks we let get in the way.
Yes, I agree, Rebecca’s story draws me in also. It is so relevant and every woman can relate in some way which makes it perfect to go along with the book.
Still praying for you. How are you feeling?
thank you so much for the prayers kim–still a lot of pain but had my first P/T today so I am hopeful. How are your sinuses?
Bless your heart. I am much improved, thank you.
That comforts me to know that too, Elizabeth. Not strong enough to keep Him away…
Elizabeth,
Your answer to H. is so comforting – how even though you tried to build a dam and block the water, the water always found a way through, and so it is with God, “I am not strong enough to keep Him away. I am His, He is mine-and He pursues us, no matter how many rocks we let get in the way.”
This is a wonderful metaphor of God’s pursuing love for us. Just what I need to hear today!
Loved your comments, Elizabeth!
I. Can you encourage our new friend Tim Mahoney with comments on this video?
I would have assumed this video was done by one of “Dee’s professionals” for sure! I think Tim did a fantastic job of capturing the Rebecca we are all so drawn to and love so much. My very favorite part was the scene of the boys and Rebecca over the bridge—that just did me in—loved it!
Being the practical person I am, I would like to know what did Rebecca start doing instead of crawling up on the bed watching TV eating pie? I’m thinking I might change behavior without really getting rid of my dependancy on the idol in my heart. I’m pretty good at outward discipline without inner change. However, if I can identify what to do that really confirms or nutures change in my heart I might be on the right track.
Le Ann–welcome!And I love how you asked for the practical application! Rebecca’s answer to you speaks to me as well. Dee has taught us idols can’t be removed, only replaced. Rebecca elaborates so beautifully (post is below), how when our idols are replaced by a greater affection, Jesus, then we are finally satisfied.
Thankful you joined in here and hope you’ll stay!
Welcome Lee Ann, Elizabeth is right on, but I know it is hard to do. Here’s what I do….usually at night, I’m relaxed, I’m thinking I’ve worked hard all day, I think I deserve a glass of wine or a piece of cake. Neither is bad, if it is a reasonable amount, but we are looking to have comfort food to make us feel good. What we need to do, to feel peace and satisfaction is to realize we are going to food or drink to comfort us, instead of letting God comfort us.
So what I do is stop myself and say “I am running to food for comfort and what I really need is God”. “I really don’t need that ice cream this late…I know it is bad for me, what I really need to to, is feel close to you, Jesus”. So, I open my bible or put on a CD of my favorite gospel music or a sermon, and I indulge myself in him. I pray for God to help me and he does. I have just replaced food/ drink with God. He will bless us if we can keep doing this untill it becomes a habit. I still mess up everyday, but at least I am trying and doing much better. Or ask him to help you to choice heathly snacks and to crave healthy foods..I do! God will help us in all our needs, whether they seem trivial or not…he is here with us…holding our hand!
chris s.–praying for you
Miss you, Chris!
Please pray for a friend who’s daughter fell ill while going to class at college and died within the hour, last Friday morning. The funeral is tomorrow morning at our church. So painful and heartbreaking.
oh kim–so awful! praying now
Can’t even imagine. Praying now.
I read that in the paper, Kim and couldn’t believe it! Was it her heart? What a pretty girl. How heartbreaking…praying for her family.
Praying Kim
I read from OWH which said they don’t know yet.
The news all of us dread — yes, praying for the parents.
Oh Kim, I have prayed and will continue to. We had a family in our church lose their dad. He left two children 12 and 10 and his wife. They went out on Easter Sunday as a family to walk around the middle school track. He had a massive heart attack and died right there. Oh the pain..I dropped off food last night to them and got to see his daughter.
Rebecca–praying for this family now too, so tragic
Oh my, how awful, Rebecca. To have the young kids watch their dad die right in front of them…I can’t imagine how hard that must be. I’m praying for them also and will continue praying as they will need all the help they can get.
Thank you everyone, the funeral was hard hard hard. She died of a pulmonary embolism. No other health problem like the Hearld said. The funeral was just beautiful. Sorry about this family you mentioned, Rebecca and will pray for them as well.
You may not want to allow my comments because you don’t know who I am. That’s OK. I really have enjoyed your study and get a lot out of it. Sometimes I read the comments and that adds to my understanding. I almost always listen to the Keller sermons and have started listening to more of them instead of watching TV. Thanks for making this available.
Lee Ann — so very glad you are here!!! I know Rebecca will respond!
Lee Ann Welcome! So Glad you arew here 😉
Hi Lee Ann, So glad you are here! Wow, so glad you are listening to Keller sermons instead of watching TV! Feel free to post here-we would love to hear your input and are excited you are with us! 🙂
Lee Ann, I missed your question! It was in my inbox but I couldn’t find it here..I have to tend to my boys in about 10 minutes to makes sure they get ready for school..I will try to answer quickly, although I prefer to think through things first. I apologize for how lengthy this is.
You said, “Being the practical person I am, I would like to know what did Rebecca start doing instead of crawling up on the bed watching TV eating pie? I’m thinking I might change behavior without really getting rid of my dependancy on the idol in my heart. I’m pretty good at outward discipline without inner change. However, if I can identify what to do that really confirms or nutures change in my heart I might be on the right track.”
Your heart-oh my! When you said you didn’t want to just change your behavior because it wouldn’t get rid of the dependency on the idol-wow- your heart attitude is so crucial to real change. First, you have to decide to turn and be willing to sit in pain-it will be painful, very painful at first-BUT you must go to Him as you are going through the pain. Your pain isn’t bigger than Him-You can trust Him with it-your idol will tell you, you can’t, but you can!
Here is what I did-I replaced eating at night and watching Fox News with reading an A.W. Tozer book, I read Dee’s The God of All comfort, I read another spiritually edifying book-I began to replace that time with Him. Don’t read any books that tend to be ‘fix it instantly’ Christian books, or lend themselves to outward discipline without inner change. I also was disciplined in coming onto this blog every single morning and did Dee’s studies-seriously, that was HUGE for me. I learned of His love in a deeper way and He came in and brought such satisfaction to my soul-His love caused me to turn.
I found replacing my Idols with Him brought long lasting, true satisfaction and healing over time. My depression lifted and over time I actually started enjoying life because of Him-I saw His hand in everything-I could enjoy looking at creation and hearing the birds again..I could go on, but in answer to your question-you are at a crucial junction right now in turning from your idol.
It might help if you can see God’s jealous love for you and how it grieves his heart when you turn to idols. During your time of replacing your ‘go to’ for satisfaction, I would recommend reading Hosea 1 and 2, Well, read all of Hosea and you will see God’s grieving heart yet his great redeeming LOVE!!! Also read Jeremiah 2. Remember also that He died on the cross because He wanted you-He went through hell for you so that he could have you-even separation from God, and he will rescue you! HE WILL!
I hope this helps..Please keep us updated on how you are doing! It will bring such encouragement to us! And I know the other sisters here will offer suggestions and encouragement, and prayer as you walk this journey!
Rebecca,
Thanks so much for answering this – I, too, was wondering what you did to replace watching TV and eating. You explain everything so well. I like the Scripture you recommend reading. I also like how you are honest about the being willing to “sit in pain” – nothing is a quick-fix. Your story and your victory inspire us all.
Thank you for this response. I have not been back since I posted my question. I will read your suggestions. One reason I am drawn to this blog is how God will confirm the message here in other places for me. I have been in back to back studies in my church of A.W. Tozer’s The Pursuit of God and Knowledge of the Holy. All of this ties so well. I am making a concerted effort to focus on Him and not on my behaviors. I am really good at self discipline in just about any area you can think of – weight management, exercise, study, work, hobbies, service, personal grooming, etc. I do a lot and I do it well. Each time I set a new goal it is more aggressive than before because, as you say each time you have to do more for it to satisfy. Even though much of what I do helps others and is a really good thing to do, I am always chasing something else. I’m pretty sure it affects my relationships. “It’s lonely at the top.” I know it could all be gone in the blink of an eye. The anxiety I feel over that thought is a clue that it is way too important. It is much harder to let go when it is still available than when it has been taken from you. So I’m praying to experience the heart change that only God can do – Psalm 46:10. Ceasing to strive and letting go.
Lee Ann you are always welcome here. God knows who you are and your heart. We realize many are just silence readers and that’s great too because we all benifit from Dee’s blog, no matter how we participate in it.
Welcome Lee Ann! The sermons changed my life – great trade for tv. Good for you.
Already listened to the sermon twice and am going to listen to it again before the week is up its sooo Good!
Great, Meg!
I just popping in here to say hi. I have not had any time to do the Bible study and really miss it. I have been at my daughter`s, having fun with the boys. I had a good talk with Krista last evening as we drove to a missions event. I saw Meg`s ringing endorsement of the sermon. Looking forward to hearing it.
Missed you, Diane. Glad for good time with your daughter!
Diane, We miss you!
you are so missed Diane–hope you’ll continue to check in. Thankful to hear about your talk with Krista–praying
Wonderful, Diane!
Lily broke her arm again, emma pushed her on the swing and she fell off and her arm stayed hooked around the chain….good news is no surgery and should heal fine. leave for the cincinati home school convention on thursday….
have a blessed week!
Oh no, praying for Lily and for you Cyndi
I feel so sad for sweet little lily. This is a second time for Kendra’s ankle’s broke too. I think our girls are just so fragile there, where their bones are not quit normal. Kendra has to wear braces on her feet/legs, the rest of her life. She has gone from a cast to a walking boot and from a wheel chair to a walker, so we are having great strides, tho! But it has been a long 3 months. I’m praying for your precious little Lily now. So glad she didn’t have to have surgery.
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do? It say’s “Those who pay regard to vain idols forsake their true loyalty”. I do not want to give up my loyalty for God for anything or anyone here on earth. God is all and everything I need. He is my salvation and my only hope. I must not let idols consume me as they have in the past. I pray this for myself and all of us!
Oh Cyndi…..praying for Lily!
Lord, I lift up Lily and ask for healing, For Emma for she no doubt feels badly — all feels so dejavu to me — uphold them all. Thanks for giving Cyndi the spirit You have given her.
Yes Father, Thank You!
Oh Cyndi, I read this the other day-I haven’t had time to respond although I read and pray. Poor Lily! Oh I can relate-I have one who has broken his elbow and both ankles-all within a years time from playing outside! So thankful she doesn’t have to have surgery! Have a wonderful time at the convention-those are awesome!
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her? I’m not quit sure what you mean by boomerang on her, but I think it means how it came back to her. Her heart idol was comfort I believe and she didn’t think she was hurting anyone by have some “me” time and enjoying some desert, because of stress. But I know when I do that myself, I feel like I deserve whatever I want and then I feel quilt ridden later, for putting comfort things before God. He MUST come first and be my comforter.
G. What is your heart idol (if you know — and you may not yet!) and how has it hurt you? My heart idol is comfort the most I think, and by running to food or anything else I feel like I deserve, is putting it first and before God. It’s like God is second best for me, then.
NO, God is first in my life! How can I let a piece of pie (or two) come first before God! Why am I so weak and give in sometimes?! I think it is because my faith is weak. I must try harder! When I feel like I must have a comfort food to calm my nerve’s, I will run to God and ask him to help me! I will dive into the word and pray myself through it. I’ve done it many times and I know it helps me…so I must remember…”Idols cannot be removed, only replaced”. Help me replace my comfort idol with you, Dear Jesus!
Joyce — I think next week’s sermon, which is free, will be really helpful to you.
I so understand how you and Rebecca would feel. Honestly, one day with several little grandchildren and I’m ready for “my time” with some snacks! But it is a lie. My plan this week is for a baked apple or an orange and tea at night — nothing else after supper. And to remember His love — Maybe it would help us to do that together?
Yes, it would help me, because I lose idea’s of what I could eat healthy, like a baked apple. I do choice some “non suger” hot drink at night, like cocoa. Who was it that was in weight watcher’s here? I can’t really afford to do that, but I know it is very good. Maybe someone like that could give us some idea’s of a some healthy comfort foods!
Joyce, I find that if I stay away from excessive carbs and fat the healthy foods taste really good. As soon as I let them creep back in the good stuff loses its appeal.
Thanks Anne, that is very interesting!
3. Watch the video and answer:
A. Why did Rebecca initially come on the blog? (I think this is key to her success!)
She was missing intimacy with God, and she didn’t know why.
B. Why are you here?
I heard Dee on the radio, and signed up for her emails, in 2009. When my nephew died in July 2009, I did not sign up for a fall Bible study at church that year. I was really floundering in my faith, the grief was overwhelming. I received an email that Dee was wanting to do an online study through the God of All Comfort, starting in 1/10. I began with that study. I have stayed because our studies and all of you are a part of my life now; long-distance friends. The honesty, sharing, and richness of the fellowship here, and the depth we have here is something I have not found even at church with women. No one wears a mask here. I love Dee’s teaching, and I don’t feel I’ll ever be at a point in my life where I wont need to be learning, and I like that the goal of our studies here is not just more knowledge, but to be in a deeper relationship with God. I need that.
C. When she saw it was on idolatry – what was her initial reaction and why?
She thought it would be easy, that idolatry was about worshipping stone gods, or your job; something like that. Rebecca didnt’ thinkk that was her problem.
D. Where are you in understanding idols of the heart? What do you think they are?
Looking back to when we first started, I thought my “stone” was my thought-life – escaping my circumstances through daydreaming or fantasizing. I have learned that that is my “near-sin”, but underneath is the idol of comfort, and also approval. I used daydreaming to comfort myself and in those daydreams, I always had love and approval/affirmation. I recognized this past winter that I was also turning to sweets for comfort; kind of like Rebecca, I had to have something special to eat on many days. I also see that I can have an idol of power/control, too.
E. Heart idols are an attempt to solve a problem, but, what does Jonah 2:8 say they really do?
I “forfeit, or lose, the grace that could be mine”. God has so much for me, and is waiting for me to come to Him, but if my hands are full, grasping my idols, I can’t reach out my hands to Him. When I am feeling lonely and unloved, if I escape into a daydream, it is a temporary fix, but I miss out on the chance to communicate with God, read His Word, and experience His real love.
F. What was Rebecca’s heart idol and how did it boomerang on her?
Her idol was comfort, and as she turned to sweets for comfort, she had to eat more and more until she began to gain weight, and then she became depressed.
This is the most beautiful post and warms me like the rising sun. Thank you, Susan.
loved this Susan–“but if my hands are full, grasping my idols, I can’t reach out my hands to Him”. Long ago you said something about how we have to let go of the idols in our hands or order to hold onto His–I still use that word picture, so powerful. You have such a strong faith Susan, tested and tried, and faithful–like a tree firmly planted by the waters–always learn so much from your thought-filled posts
Wow – you have a good memory Elizabeth! Also, I was just reading Psalm 1 yesterday morning, and meditating on that tree planted by the waters imagery. I am trying to go through each Psalm, and to find Jesus hidden in the psalm. In Psalm 1, I see Jesus as the stream of water, causing the tree (the man) to live, and be fruitful, and not to shrivel and wither.
Oh Susan, I love all your answer’s!!
Susan- you came up with the word I was searching for- approval or affirmation. In my post the only thing I could think of was people-pleasing but it really is approval. Thanks for helping me give my idol its proper name!
I must give Dee the credit, Lucy – I learned it here!