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THE MYSTERIUM TREMENDUM

THEY CAME TO ARREST HIM

LOOKING FOR JESUS OF NAZARETH

ALL HE SAID WAS “I AM HE”

JUST A GLIMPSE OF HIS GLORY

JUST A CRACK IN THE DOOR

AND THEY WERE FLATTENED

THERE WERE MANY IN THAT BAND OF SOLDIERS

JUDAS BROUGHT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BUT JUST A WORD FROM THE GREAT I AM

AND THEY FELL TO THE GROUND

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THE MYSTERIUM TREMENDUM

IT HAPPENS WHEN AN UNHOLY BEING COMES

INTO

THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY

 

Have you ever experienced “The Mysterium Tremendum?”

When I was a young wife, my sister spent a week with me, following me around with her Bible, telling me who Jesus is, why I should be afraid, and why I should give Him my whole life. She was making me nervous and I wanted her to go home, but a blizzard came and we were snowbound together. She saw it as God’s opportunity and kept following me, reading Scripture to me. Scripture upon Scripture with Jesus claiming to be God. A sense of my need was growing. My sin. Sally told me my sins were as scarlet. But then she pointed to the new fallen snow outside our window and told me He could make me as white as snow.

Sally was a new Christian, yet God gave her some of the same passages that you will hear in the free Keller sermon this week. Jesus was claiming Deity.

I asked her, “If this is true…if He is God…would He ask me to give up the house Steve and I are planning to build?”

She hesitated a long time. (She told me later she was crying out to God for how she should answer me.) Then she said, “I think, in your case, yes.” (Oh my! Even then God knew my idolatrous heart and zeroed in on what was most important to me!) I am very thankful for my bold and caring sister. (Sally is the mother of our new blogger, Anne Meredith.)

When Sally left I had been “awakened.” I was hesitant to give up our house…unless, this was all true. Was it true?

Sally left me two prayerfully chosen books.

A copy of Phillip’s New Testament

(so I wouldn’t start in Genesis) and

C. S. Lewis’s classic: “Mere Christianity.”

I read them both. Fear grew in my heart.

 

A month later, on a November day in 1966, the fear of the Lord brought me to my knees. As I began to pray, I suddenly realized how sinful I was and how holy He was. The Mysterium Tremendum. Truly, there was a flash of fear so great I was overcome. But then it was gone and I felt, like Karla Faye Tucker has described, “wrapped in His love.” As John Newton said, “It was grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved.”

I haven’t experienced anything like that since, but I have felt tremors. Sometimes when I am speaking a sense of His holiness comes over me. A holy fear to speak not for the approval of man but for Him.

So often I need those tremors because of my depravity.

I remember clearly my first Christian booksellers convention. These mega-events, held in arenas, can have a bit of a carnival feel — though there are good things like holy Bibles and strong books on display, there are a multitude of booths with offensive bumper stickers and praying bears. As Chris said last week:Sometimes I am troubled by the use of cheesy Jesus’ images like ones on bumper stickers or some pictures that one might see in an email or on the internet. I think we have a tendency to shrink God down to where we feel comfortable with Him.”

Steve and two of our daughters were with me, and Sally and Annie were excited to meet so many celebrities.  I was pleased to have radio broadcasters interested in me. It’s an atmosphere as conducive to pride as moisture is to mold.

At the Sunday service, thousands were listening to Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, and a whole string of well known people. Looking back, for many of us, our focus was on them, rather than on God.

We have such a tendency to lose perspective, to forget how holy, holy, holy He is.

When it was time for the message, a short unassuming man came out. I looked at my bulletin and saw the title of the sermon:

“The Depravity of Man and The Holiness of God.”

The preacher was R. C. Sproul, and he was quickened by the Spirit of God. His message was exactly what we needed and the Lord chose to quicken him. There was such a sense of the holy. As if Jesus came into the temple with a whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THE MYSTERIUM TREMENDUM.

Watch this clip of R. C. Sproul from his series: The Holiness of God.

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY_4_CRnwqE

When you realize how holy He is, and how sinful you are, the earth should shake a bit. This is what makes us so grateful, as well, for His grace.

During Lent we are endeavoring to put something off and put something on in its place. No doubt every one of us has failed to live up to the standard we set for ourselves. It would be easy to think that trouble is coming into our lives because of that failure — but that too is wrong theology. He took our punishment — He satisfied the requirement of a holy God. We are called to be holy as He is holy, but He also knows we will fail, and He is faithful and just to cleanse us when we confess our sins. In this powerful passage today, if you could read it in Greek, you would see how He says:

I AM

TAKE ME

LET THEM GO

Sunday/Monday

1. Have you ever had a sense of The Mysterium Tremendum? When the fear of God overwhelmed you? If so, share something about it.

2. What stands out to you from the above and why?

3. Report on last week’s Lenten discipline and what you plan to do this week. A fresh week.


Monday-Wednesday: Bible Study

 



 

For this third week of Lent, we will again be looking at an episode where Jesus proclaims Himself to be Deity, to be the Great I AM. This phrase, by which Jesus identified Himself repeatedly in John’s Gospel, is the same phrase that God spoke to Moses when He told him that His name was “I AM.” This week I want us to look at the incident that occurred on holy Thursday, the night before Jesus was crucified. Keller’s message, which is free this week, helps us clearly understand the Great I AM and will be a good foundation for coming weeks.

Just before this incident, Jesus had prayed His “high priestly prayer” for the disciples and for “those who would believe because of them.” He knew He was going to die, and His heart was with us, praying for us. Then, though this is not recorded in John’s Gospel, he went to Gethsemane, where He suffered, knowing what He had to face.

3. Read John 18:1-3

A. Describe the band of soldiers that came for Jesus. (Keller says “a band” was at least 200.) Why do you think there were so many? Why were they armed?

B. Meditate and comment on John 18:4.

C. In verse 5, when Jesus says, “I am he,” there is actually no “he.” It is simply “I AM.” Look up the following five references and find how his enemies reacted when He made an “I AM” statement:

John 6:35

John 8:12

John 8:58

John 10:7 and 10:14


4. Read John 18:6-9

A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think?

B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8?

C. Why, according to verse 9?

5.  Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened.

6. What stands out to you from this account and why?

Thursday-Friday: Download this free sermon from Keller (LINK). (Click on the word Link and you will find many free Keller sermons, but we want # 11 “I AM HE”

7. The Greatest Claim

A. What are some claims that Jesus made that no other founder of any religion ever made?

B. Bono was asked if it wasn’t a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. What was his response?

C. C. S. Lewis has a famous argument in Mere Christianity in which he challenges those who want to believe Jesus is just a great teacher. What was it?

 

THE GREATEST PROBLEM

What notes do you have on this section?

 

What else stood out to you from this sermon and why?

 

THIS IS THE SCENE FROM THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS THAT KELLER REFERENCES AT THE CLOSE OF HIS MESSAGE: (Just the first few minutes are relevant.)

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah9XCamPyKA&feature=related

REMEMBER HIS WORDS

I AM

TAKE ME

LET THEM GO

(John 18:8)

 

Saturday:

What’s your take-a-way? Why?

 

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  1. 4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think?

    They wouldn’t listen to Him. If you read the verses around that one, He states this 3 times. I’m not sure why they didn’t believe Him. I’m not sure why they “fell to the ground.” Maybe they couldn’t believe He was who he said He was? It was if he had to convince them.

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8?

    He tells them to let the others go because he was who they were looking for.

    C. Why, according to verse 9?

    He was fulfilling the scripture.
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  2. I smiled when I checked my email and saw all those posts, I knew Joyce had visited in the night!
    I am sorry to know your back is no better. I am glad God gave you Maurice to help you.

    1. Sorry to hear you and Bill had to ask Brian to move out, Chris. That must have been a tough decision. Will continue to pray for him. Similar story with the grandson of Billy Graham, Tullian ( I can’t spell his last name!) – his parents made him leave when he was 16; God kept pursuing him and, well – God always wins!

      1. Thank You for the encouragement Susan. I need to stop trying to see too far down the road. Here is a chance to fear God and nothing else

    2. thank you:)

  3. After listening to R C Sproul, I was thinking of what I have experienced. I can’t really explain it though-maybe that is the mystery part? I think the darkness of my soul is beyond my comprehension-Only God knows those depths, and I have trembled inside whenever His Holiness exposes my darkness and my propensity to bend toward idolatry-the natural bend is like the Camel track picture Dee put up in our Stonecutter study last year.

    A good example is in my daily conversations with those around me, my family, and in ministry. In the midst of conversation is when we can easily forget His presence. Sometimes it is in conversations that His Holiness comes over me and I fear Him that I want to make sure I guard my tongue out of love and reverence for Him, not for the approval or affection of others.

  4. 1. Have you ever had a sense of the Mysterium Tremendum? When the fear of God overwhelmed you? If so, share something about it.

    At the time I became a Christian, I had learned that God is so holy, He cannot accept sinners into His heaven. I also learned He had provided a remedy for this, His Son, Jesus. The day I prayed and was confessing my sins, asking for forgiveness, I “mentally” placed myself at the foot of the Cross, wondering, doubting….in light of these shameful sins of mine, what would Jesus say, looking down on me from the Cross, to me? The thought that immediately came into my mind was, “Now do you see how much I love you?”

    As I have grown in my faith, there are times when I experience a sense of fearing Him as in a deep reverence, awe, and respect for Who He is. This often may occur during quiet times of reading Scripture and praying, and I can only describe it as an “inward bowing of my heart” to Him. After the last two weeks of listening to Keller’s sermons, I was struck anew of the fact that when I pray, I am praying to “the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the Great I AM”.

    2. What stands out to you from the above and why?

    I love Dee’s conversion story. The part about God asking her to give up their plans to build a new house reminded me of how Jesus zeroed in on the young man who came to Him, asking what He should do for eternal life; Jesus knew this young man’s “stuff” was his idol, and when He told him to sell it all, the young man went away, sad. I’m glad Dee did not respond that way!

    Secondly, the John Newton quote, “It was grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved.” That echoes Keller in that the holiness and purity of Jesus Christ can be our comfort and assurance now. I love that it is God’s graciousness extended toward us that teaches us we are to fear Him, and convicts us of our sinfulness, yet that same grace draws us into His forgiving arms, and we are assured of His love.

    3. Report on last week’s Lenten discipline and what you plan to do this week. A fresh week.

    Last week I specifically asked God to help me with how I speak to my husband, the tone of my voice (which can convey much more than my words). I have had to repent of how truly I have let my tone convey irritability, impatience, and disrespect.

    I haven’t had much time to come up with a plan for this week. Monday morning, my dad took my mom to the ER b/c she had a fever and still coughing and not eating. They did a chest xray and she has bronchitis, but b/c of her history of frequent pneumonia, they started her on an antibiotic. They let her go home, and I’ve been going over every day and cooking their supper and trying to help. Still a big concern is her eating. I almost cried Monday at the ER when I was helping her get dressed, how thin and frail her frame is at 80 pounds. She ate a little bit more yesterday.
    I am not only concerned about her physically, but spiritually. It is so hard to talk to her about God b/c the thing she detests more than anything is “being preached at”. I feel so incredibly lame at trying to share my faith with her. I’ve tried so many times in the past.
    The only thing I shared with her on Monday before I went home was how before I met them at the ER, I got down on my knees and took the time to pray for her. I told her how I often, in response to a problem, think about what “I” am going to do – I’ll go over, I’ll help do this… and I told her that really, things are not in my control and I have to remember that only God is in control of circumstances. I told her how much Jesus loves her.

    1. Susan,

      I think u said all u could say to your mom which was Jesus loves you and that you prayed for her. Will be praying about this

      1. Thanks, Meg….I love your new picture! Is that from the cruise?

        1. yes susan it was from the cruise it was our first day there!

        2. Sweet picture, so glad you enjoyed yourself. I missed you.

        3. I missed you too Kim!~

    2. Dear, Sweet Susan, you do so much for your parents and family. I’m so sorry about your mom’s health and I will be praying for her, both phyically anc spirutally. I’m sure you are seen as a shining example of faith by your mom, but she may have difficulty expressing how she feels. Love you

    3. Praying for your Mom Susan, your desire to tell your Mom about Christ touched my heart.

  5. Diane,

    I’m catching up with comments and saw your post regarding your daughter and her depression. I will be praying, and I wanted to mention this, it may be helpful to her and you, too. Christian author/speaker Sheila Walsh was on Focus on the Family a week or so ago; actually, they re-aired this particular broadcast due to the overwhelming response to it. She spoke about her battle with depression. You can go to http://www.focusonthefamily.com and in the Search tab, just type in her name, Sheila Walsh, and it will take you to where you can listen to the 2 part broadcast online.
    I listened and she has a lot to share about her journey through depression.

    1. I know you meant this link for Diane and I hope she listens to it too. It really ministered to me especially about taking medication. I too have people who won’t reconcile with me because I take medication or that feel I’m mentally unbalanced because I need it. I’m going to post that link on my blog because I believe it will help others too. So thanks for sharing it.

  6. I just want to say thank you for all who are praying for my daughter, and for me as I try to give this matter to the Lord and figure out what my part is in helping her. I had a rich time with the Lord this morning and just want to share the hymn God blessed me with this morning. (Spirit of God, descend upon my heart. The tune is different here than usual, but it is beautiful!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrBp0yg8XI&feature=related

    And thank you for your advice, Renee and Susan. I will try to find the time to listen to Sheila Walsh’s broadcast soon. Krista is continuing her medication. If she needs to change meds or up the dosage, it will be even more expensive and they can’t afford that. I don’t know what the answer is.

    1. Amazing song, dear! I loved This is a prayer-music wonderful that touch the heart. thank you for sharing. I will look for cd. I liked very much. love, Polly

      1. You’re welcome, Pollyanna. So glad it touched your heart.

  7. 4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think? They all drew back and fell to the ground! I think they were in awe of him!

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8? Let these others go.

    C. Why, according to verse 9? To fullfill his own statement

    5.  Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened. Simon Peter drew a sword and slashed off the right ear Of Malchus but then Jesus said to Peter put your sword back shall I not drink from the cup of suffering the father has given me?

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why?

  8. A. Describe the band of soldiers that came for Jesus. Why do you think there were so many? Why were they armed?
    I believe Judas guided a detachment, officials and leaders carrying torches, lanterns and weapons because he had seen first hand the wonders Jesus performed. I think he expected a fight. It’s so interesting to me that Judas was so confused after knowing the Savior and having spent time with Jesus wouldn’t he have known Jesus’ character? He was deceived and this again proves that the unsaved have darkened hearts. Judas wasn’t thinking clearly.

    B. Meditate and comment on John 18:4.

    Jesus asked who they were seeking and then answered, “I AM”. I love this about Jesus, that He knew what was coming and simply gave Himself over to them. This reminds me that I can stand in confidence when I am in the right, I do not have to fight for myself or my way. I simply can state truth and trust God to protect and fight for me. Oh the times I have tested this out and He has come through for me! How He longs to be our knight in shining armor if we would stop defending ourselves and our rights!

    C. In verse 5, when Jesus says, “I am he,” there is actually no “he.” It is simply “I AM.” Look up the following five references and find how his enemies reacted when He made an “I AM” statement:
    John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
    John 8:12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
    John 8:58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!
    John 10:7 and 10:14 Therefore Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep.

    4. Read John 18:6-9
    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think? they all fell backward to the ground. I guess His power overcame them, He didn’t have to lift a finger. This makes me think He wanted those there to know He went willingly, He didn’t have to be taken by force.
    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8? Let the others (disciples) go.
    C. Why, according to verse 9?to fulfill His statement:”I have not lost a single one of those you gave me.”

    5. Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened. 10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. 11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why?
    The question He posed to Peter: Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me? He was so willing to lay down His life. We should follow suit and be so willing to lay down our stuff and follow.

  9. John 18:1-3
    I wonder if the band of soldiers came in such great number and fully armed because they feared resistance from the disciples.

    Reaction of others to these I AM declarations:
    John 6:35
    In John 6:41 the Jews began to grumble
    John 8:12
    In John 8:13 the Pharisees disputed or challenged him; accusatory statements of blasphemy
    John 8:58
    The Jews picked up stones to stone Him…but He hid and slipped away from the temple grounds
    John 10:7 & 14
    Here we see division among the Jews, some believed Him and some did not (John 10:19-21)

    John 18:6-9; 10-11
    The band of soldiers backed away and fell to the ground in response to His declaration of deity (vs 5-6). He asked them to let the disciples go to fulfill prophecy that ‘not one would be lost’. In vs 10-11, Peter drew a sword, cutting off the servant of the high priest’s ear. Jesus rebuked Peter.

    What stands out to me in this account? It continues to impress upon me that Jesus did not fight back. Our pride-filled human flesh desires to fight back. To follow Christ, is to lay down our pride, our life…not fighting…but winning the battle with His love.

    Praying for God’s truth to penetrate the darkness and depression. Lifting up the prayer requests here. May we see God move among us for His glory.

  10. 4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think? They drew back and They fell. Because that is what happens with the great I AM. He is the authority. Maybe that is why?

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8? Let the others go.

    C. Why, according to verse 9? To fulfill Scripture

    5. Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened. Peter took out his sword and stuck one taking of some ear, Jesus rebuked him and told him He was to drink the cup given by the Father.

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why? Immediately my heart was drawn to the cup that the Father GAVE Jesus. Some Christians refuse to believe any bad comes from God but over and over I see it in Scripture. God appointing something. It is confusing to me at times. I think too how gentle Jesus was while Peter I can just see him coming out swinging!! No thought to it.

  11. Sweet Elizabeth I am praying for you! So sorry for the pain! It is so hard to live with constant pain!!! Praying for relief and mercy. HUGS. I wish I could now sit shiva with you and do your dishes or something useful.

  12. 3. Read John 18:1-3

    A. Describe the band of soldiers that came for Jesus. (Keller says “a band” was at least 200.) Why do you think there were so many? Why were they armed?
    The New American Standard calls it a cohort which according to the footnote was 300-600 soldiers. Why so many? Maybe because Jesus was so popular with the people the Jewish leaders were afraid. Jesus had simply eluded their grasp so many times when they were intent on seizing Him so maybe they wanted to “make sure” there would be no escape. Jerusalem was under Roman occupation and my guess is that the soldier’s were armed much of the time- especially when going to make an arrest.

    B. Meditate and comment on John 18:4.
    Jesus was confronting sin head on. He had already “set His face” toward Jerusalem. Sometimes when I have a hard thing to do I attack it head on so I don’t put it off or try to get out of it. Jesus may have been wanting to go ahead and just get the hardest part over and behind Him. Maybe He met the crowd out of His great love for His disciples and wanted to protect them from getting hurt or caught up in the crossfire.

    C. In verse 5, when Jesus says, “I am he,” there is actually no “he.” It is simply “I AM.” Look up the following five references and find how his enemies reacted when He made an “I AM” statement:

    John 6:35- I am the bread of life

    John 8:12- I am the light of the world

    John 8:58- I am before Abraham was born

    John 10:7 and 10:14- I am the door & I am the shepherd

    4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think? The reaction: “…they drew back and fell to the ground” The Message says “The soldiers recoiled, totally taken aback. Judas, His betrayer stood out like a sore thumb.” We humans simply cannot stand in the presence of a Holy God. This may have been a forshadowing of “every knee shall bow”.

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8? Jesus asked that His disciples be let go or left alone.

    C. Why, according to verse 9? As an answer to His prayer in Chapter 17.

    5. Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened. Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of a slave of the high priest. Jesus rebuked Peter and said that He must be obedient to that which came to Him from His Father.

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why? The betrayal by Judas- Judas “led the way”, Judas knew Jesus well enough to know where He would be- betrayed Him in a sacred place, a place of previous fellowship. In the Message it becomes a picture of the classic show down between evil and good- the soldiers and Jewish leaders fell down or pulled away and Judas was left “standing” Judas was left facing Jesus- the accuser and the accused. Evil continues to try and refuse to fall down and tremble or acknowledge God’s holiness.

  13. 5. Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened.
    Peter cut off the high priests servants ear.

    Jesus said “Put your sword into its sheath; shall I not drink the cup that the Father has given me?”

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why?
    People are a bit over critical of Peter sometimes I think. I thought about how in Luke 22 Jesus had just before now told the disciples this:

    He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
    For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.”
    And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”

    I also thought about the servants name being mentioned and thought about this also from Luke 22;
    And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.
    But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him.

    I wondered if the servant became a Christ follower after the resurrection, and that is why they knew him.

  14. 3. Read John 18:1-3

    A. Describe the band of soldiers that came for Jesus. (Keller says “a band” was at least 200.) Why do you think there were so many? Why were they armed? – I think that Judas knew what Jesus was capable of and wanted to make sure he had enough backup because he also knew that the disciples would do anything for Jesus, even if it meant fighting and losing their life for him.

    B. Meditate and comment on John 18:4. – for me it’s sad to know that Jesus knew what was going to be happening to him and yet could do nothing about it to change the circumstances.

    C. In verse 5, when Jesus says, “I am he,” there is actually no “he.” It is simply “I AM.” Look up the following five references and find how his enemies reacted when He made an “I AM” statement:

    John 6:35 – the Jews were complaining about Him because Jesus was claiming to have been born from above yet they knew who his parents were

    John 8:12 – the Pharisees were objecting to His testimony saying it was not true and questioning him on who his father and mother were.

    John 8:58 – the Judeans thought he was possessed by a demon because he was claiming to have known Abraham who died already and they had picked up stones and were getting ready to stone Jesus but turned and left.

    John 10:7 and 10:14 – they were confused by Jesus saying he was the door for the sheep. They did not understand even though Jesus tried explaining in simpler terms using the parable. They were divided. Some thought he was posed by a demon and others said no because he healed the blind man and demons can’t do that.

  15. 4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said, “I AM.” Why, do you think? – The men retreated and fell to the ground. I’m thinking they did this because they came in contact with His Holy presence and they were in awe of what they were experiencing.

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8? – That if they were looking for him to let the other men go.

    C. Why, according to verse 9?- Because he was fulfilling the word that he had spoken, “I have not lost a single one of those whom you gave me”

    5.  Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened. – Simon Peter drew his sword and cut off the right ear of the high priests slave Malchus and Jesus told him to put it back in the sheath because what was happening was spoken upon Him by his Father

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why? – the disciples still did not understand completely what was happening and kept fighting to protect Jesus and change the circumstances. Jesus knew from the beginning what was to be done and what he was going to have to endure and was accepting it because it was spoken from his Father.

  16. “I AM HE”
    7. The Greatest Claim
    A. What are some claims that Jesus made that no other founder of any religion ever made? No just this is the way to the truth, to live or the way to find God

    Jesus takes the divine name upon Himself, no beginning, no end, no because

    Jesus says I AM the uncreated beginningless God come to find you, I AM the way I AM the truth
    If Christ is right, the Christian religion has to be superior to other religions. It is not founded by a sage or prophet pointing to a remote God. It is GOD come to us, come to get us.

    If Christ is wrong, he was insane liar. Christianity can’t be one religion among many, we should despise it. A person can’t love the teachings of Jesus without reading them and grasping that He makes outrageous claims about Himself

    We cannot have a mild response to Christ with any intellectual integrity

    Intellectually Legitimate Responses to Christ;
    1) We can fall on our knees in love and commitment, say command me
    2) Have nothing to do with Him, have utter disdain for Him & His faith
    3) Temporarily neutral while figuring it out

    There is no integrity is to say I kinda like Jesus and his teachings, I come to church & pray every now and then

  17. A. Bono was asked if it wasn’t a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. What was his response?

    I found the entire quote online;

    Bono: No, It’s not farfetched to me. Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: he was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn’t allow you that. He doesn’t let you off the hook. Christ says: No. I am not saying I’m a teacher, don’t call me teacher. I am not saying I’m a prophet. I’m saying “I am the Messiah.” I’m saying: “I am God incarnate.” And people say: No, no please, just be a prophet. A prophet we can take. Your a bit eccentric. We’ve had John the Baptist eating locusts and wild honey, we can handle that. But don’t mention the “M” word! Because, you know, we are going to have to crucify you. And he goes: No, no. I know you’re expecting me to come back with an army, and set you free from these creeps, but actually I am the Messiah. At this point, everyone starts staring at their shoes, and says: Oh, my God, he’s gonna keep saying this. So what you’re left with is: either Christ was who He said He was- the Messiah- or a complete nutcase. I mean, we’re talking nutcase on the level of Charles Manson. This man was like some of the people we’ve been talking about earlier. This man was strapping himself to a bomb, and had “King of the Jews” on his head, and was they were putting him on the cross, was going: OK, martyrdom, here we go. Bring on the pain! I can take it. I’m not joking here. The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside down by a nutcase, for me, that’s farfetched…

      1. I confess I searched for it hoping to cut and paste rather than try to keep up with Keller!
        I googled Bono Christ Charles Manson, this website was in the top few from the search;
        http://u2.interference.com/f220/bono-on-jesus-133007.html

  18. C. C. S. Lewis has a famous argument in Mere Christianity in which he challenges those who want to believe Jesus is just a great teacher. What was it?

    “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”

  19. Ok so I listened to wrong sermon! It was crazy because i had to listen 2x because of stopping for kids, etc. However it ministered to me in a HUGE way. No mistake!! It was about anger. I have felt so bad about myself so often because of the anger I feel a lot of the time. It stems from injustice in the world. To know this is not bad and God feels it is so freeing. Also he said that the people who love the most and are more pure and good seem to be more angry. That helps! I don’t feel any of those things, like being super pure, good, or loving but the anger shows it. It spoke too of precautions of how to express that anger. In a command we must express it. Aggressively toward the thing that angers us. Never the person, and it gave a great case study of a father and his children how to recognize idols in heart and how to see if anger is moving into rage or bitterness. SO SO GOOD! I am struggling so much with this it angers me so much when the argue and complain when they fight among each other. He said it is a serious thing and right to be angry. Address it appropriately. Same with disobedience. So thankful. Will try to listen to next one soon hopefully.

    This one did talk some of putting on and off. That most religions say put off….But in Christianity we must put off and look at Christ. Renew our minds in HIM.

    1. There is great wisdom in what you shared Angela. Thanks for sharing it. Need to apply it to my own life and family.

      1. Thanks annemeredith! I am certain it was not a mistake I heard that one!! 🙂

        1. What was the name of the sermon?

        2. It was #11 forgiving and forgiven. So good!

  20. THE GREATEST PROBLEM

    What notes do you have on this section?

    I’m not sure it was under this section, but when he talks about comparing yourself to someone else who is more gifted in an area you thought you were gifted in and how we shrink in comparison and are traumatized – how much more is it for us when we stand in front of the power, the holiness of God. Although I don’t feel traumatized, but in awe.

    What else stood out to you from this sermon and why?

    His use of the clip from the Last of the Mohicans. How powerfully that illustrates Jesus and his substitution for those who don’t even love Him. Also the quotes from Bono and C.S. Lewis. I read that C.S. Lewis quote in Keller’s book on Marriage I believe. I also heard that same quote from C.S. Lewis on the radio today, God must be trying to tell me something!

  21. 7. The Greatest Claim John 18-19 claim, problem, commission I AM is actual word, not I AM HE//Ex 3 same name God uses for Moses NO BEG no end.

    A. What are some claims that Jesus made that no other founder of any religion ever made? This is the truth or the way to live is what other religions say but Jesus said I AM the way the truth and the life.

    B. Bono was asked if it wasn’t a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. What was his response? no its not. either He is who says He is or a nutcase. Did not get entire quote.

    C. C. S. Lewis has a famous argument in Mere Christianity in which he challenges those who want to believe Jesus is just a great teacher. What was it? Did not get this one. Prob cuz i had to run baby to bed!

    What else stood out to you from this sermon and why?
    If you judged you on your own standards you could not stand! Imagine by Jesus standards surely cannot stand in Jesus presence.

    Protocol was to arrest the riot persons followers as well. Jesus said, let them go, “forgive them” substitute me for them. WOW!

    The cup is justice. He was going to the cross for all we deserve but will fall on HIM instead. He was judged in our place because He does not want to lose any of us.

    Encouraged by Peter where he still did not get gospel after Jesus repeatedly told them about it. Jesus still loved him.

  22. John 18:4 “Jesus, knowing all that was going to happen to him, went out and asked them, ‘Who is it you want?'”

    This verse is intriguing! Obviously, Jesus wasn’t answering for the purpose of getting information. And He asked the question twice. Then when they responded by saying “Jesus of Nazareth,” He responded with “I AM” — twice. V. 9 says This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: ‘I have not lost one of those you gave me.”

    John 18:9 is cross-referenced to John 6:39. “And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.”

    The more obvious reasons Jesus asked the initial question were to fulfill prophecy and to spare the lives of those who were with Him, so that they wouldn’t be harmed because the crowd got the “wrong guy.”

    But we see the fear when Jesus said “I AM” — at least the first time. When I think of Jesus, fully God and fully human, acknowledging who He is, I think of Phil 2:

    5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

    6 Who, being in very nature God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
    7 rather, he made himself nothing
    by taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
    8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!

    9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

    John 18 shows Jesus “becoming obedient unto death.” Jesus said Jn 18) “I have not lost one of those you gave me.” I wonder if this passage is showing Jesus giving both His followers and His “enemies” more opportunities to bow before Him and acknowledge His holiness, so that they wouldn’t be lost ???

    1. I love the scripture you posted and your thoughts on Jesus offering more opportunities to repent.
      God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

  23. Any news from or about Tammy? She’s been heavy on my heart today…

    1. Mine too Renee.

  24. What else stood out to you from this sermon and why?

    This is the what;

    If I believe that I because of the cross will be able to stand on Judgment day, I won’t lose my footing now when I am hurt or wronged.

    Jesus tells Peter what’s going to happen again and again, Jesus did not abandon Peter when he denies Him, misunderstands Him, Christ has unyielding love for Peter, our pain, our stupidity, our not practicing the gospel in our daily life won’t keep Him from loving us.

    This is the why;

    I am beginning to understand the endless facination with the gospel. Our recent dwelling on the holiness of God has left me weepy with wonder and appreciation all over again for what is ours in Christ.
    I feel so much more able to surrender, to be small, to not have everything figured out.

    1. Chris, I love what you say here about being able to surrender and trust. This is not easy after all that you have been through. He is changing you.

    2. Chris, What you wrote reminds me of this from My Utmost for His Highest:
      “To become one with Jesus Christ, a person must be willing not only to give up sin, but also to surrender his whole way of looking at things.”

      I was thinking about this earlier today because it seemed similar to “putting off.”

  25. 3. I am doing well with morning meditation and using some of the time for prayer too. I wish I could do my study then too but I just can’t get up any earlier. I leave the house at 5am. The good thing is that I am home by 3, but too tired to focus on study. God has been so good though and I think He is giving me eyes to see blessings all around me. I have had great victory over fear and joy remains with me. While I am not doing very well at getting studies done on the day, I always manage to get them done. So many life changing truths are tying together that I am frequently thrilled. One morning last week when I was meditating some thoughts and scenarios about witnessing came through my mind. One of the things that bothers me when I try to witness is that some of our terminology gets turned off by people as soon as we say it. If you ask a person whether they are a Christian they almost always say yes. The thing that came to me is to ask them if they are ‘in Christ’ and they would probably respond with ‘what do you mean’. I pretty much got a charge out of that but then this week I had a study in Ephesians and learned that the term ‘in Christ’ is mentioned 28 times in the book. I don’t know where I am going with that but am following. I have not tried it yet so could use some prayer there. Susan, I do wonder if there might be something in this that you can use for talking to your mother.
    This week I have been inspired to change my diet. It is more time consuming than I want but I feel great and enjoy eating so much more. My focus has been better at work. Now if it will carry over into the afternoon…
    That is enough. Sorry to go on so.

  26. 3a. This scene in John reminds me of War of the Worlds and other such movies where they bring the whole arsenal because the enemy is strong. They want to win because they want to be free. They don’t want to live under the rule of the aliens. They fear total destruction.

    In those days there had been many amazing miracles done by Jesus. These rulers believed in His power. They knew that He could rule Israel. That is exactly what they feared. This may be a long shot but I think they were responding to idol threat (power and control). They were armed because they feared His power. I think they were prepared to kill Him then if He fought them.

  27. Ladies just wanted to update you that I am not doing very well with putting on/ off my payer time hasn’t been good this week and I have had 3 iced coffees this week and my goal was to not have any during lent.

  28. I have to just paste my notes instead of to the questions, sorry–typed as fast as I could—but I’m a terrible typist, even without pain! Great sermon though.
    1) Greatest Claim: I AM HE—literally, I Am (no He); Exodus 3-He says tell Pharaoh—I AM sent you, My Name. John 8-talking about Abraham—before Abraham, I AM—not I Was, I Am. No beginning, no ending—no “because”. Not dependent on anyone or thing. The founder of any other religion says he shows the way to God. Jesus doesn’t show the way, He is the Way. If He is who He said He is, Christianity is superior to all other religions. Either build your life around Him, or have nothing to do with Him. There is no integrity in the tepid response to Jesus.

    2) Greatest Problem: No one can stay on their feet in the presence of God, everyone loses their footing. We can’t stand human superlative-ness—this is looking at Someone immensely superlative—we all will fall.

    3) Greatest Mission: Me for them—substitution. Thank you Chris for the Bono quote. Out of love for someone who didn’t love him—take me—substitutionary atonement. Jesus says to Peter—shall I not drink the Cup? The Cup is what God will make the tyrants drink on Judgment Day—it s punishment, justice. Jesus says, I will take all the judgment on Me. I love RC Sproul’s children’s book on this—the Poison Cup. Jesus is the Judge that was judged—He went into the fire, because He loves us that much. On Judgment Day, we stand on our feet because we are accepted by Him. ***I can say “who cares what they think” I’m not on trial anymore—I’m accepted in Him. When I am criticized, when I am wronged—I will lose my footing, become angry, cynical, resentful—if I know the Gospel—and live it here—I will stand.
    I feel discouraged in my immaturity—but Peter’s example helps. Peter has spent 3 years with Jesus, and in the key moment, Peter attacks—but Jesus, in His grace, doesn’t lash out at Peter—but gently reminds him His purpose. Unyielding love, nothing will stop Him from saving us. I LOVE THAT—LOVE HIM!

    ++My take away—A “bonus?” to the pain I’ve been having—is that semi-neat freak (wannabe) me has not swept, not done laundry, nor made my bed (actually I rarely do that!) Instead I’ve had to do something that has been a true life-long struggle for me, and that is “receive”. I’ve received help, prayers, and the generous pouring out of love and encouragement from a dear faraway friend. It’s been extremely humbling. But it has also slowed me down enough that I have had to put into practice what God has been teaching me all along through Dee’s studies. Seemingly “good” things can so easily become ultimate. A tidy home, a part time job, cooking, cleaning, my daily jog—all of these things have been to some degree, taken away these past few weeks. The temptation to feel down on myself has helped me see how I let these things “puff” me a little, make me feel better about myself. I think I wasn’t even doing those things so much to gain other’s approval—as my own approval-? I am challenged in this relatively TINY trial to finally believe I can’t do anything to gain the only approval that will ever matter. I already have it—because of what He did.

    I also want to share a praise–because of some symptoms in addition to the nerve pain, my Dr ran some blood tests to rule out auto-immune problems—and he just gave me the results and they were good! So we’re just sticking with painkillers, ben gay, and prayer!

    1. Love your take-away, Elizabeth – so true! I’m so glad you have help. Glad, too, for the good news from your doctor. Will continue to pray. Have you ever heard of an ointment called Traumeel? I got some for my mom to use on her sore back; it’s a homeopathic ointment, also come in gel and tablets. (She’s a Ben-gay user, too!)
      It’s supposed to relieve pain; it has helped her back.

      1. Bless you Susan–I’m looking it up now. I’m normally pretty frugal, but it’s amazing how many things pain has motivated me to buy–from pillows, braces…supplements…but I’d trust any advice from my dear Nurse Susan! thank you 😉

    2. Elizabeth, So glad to hear your blood test results were good! Will continue to lift you up. Lord, thank you for what you are showing Elizabeth-push back the evil one and his hisses to her to take on any guilt but help her to continue to rest in you-empower her and quicken her to be reminded of the Gospel-of your approval of her, of your faithfulness and how when you see her you are ravished by her beauty and delight in her love for you. Thank you you are turning this around for your Glory. Lord we ask that you would pour onto Elizabeth in her pain-your mercy.

      1. Amen. Thank you Jesus for hearing our prayers, we love you so.

    3. Praying Elizabeth!

  29. 3b. Why did Jesus ask who they were looking for when He already knew? A paradox.
    He went out to them knowing they would arrest Him, that He would be falsely accused, beaten and tortured to death on the cross. He walked out and asked them who they were looking for…

    c. Reactions to I AM.
    John 6:35 The bread of life. They did not believe and reacted in pride. Jesus essentially said that they were not called by God.
    John 8:12 The light of the world. They did not believe.
    John 8:58 The good shepherd. They would have stoned Him but God did not allow them.
    John 10:7 and 10:14 There was division because some believed and some did not.

    4. This time they stepped back and fell down. I don’t know why. Maybe because Satan had entered into Judas who was leading them. Jesus asked them to take Him and let the others go. To fulfill His word that He would not lose any that were given to Him.

    5. Peter began to fight with his sword and cut off the slave’s ear. Jesus rebuked him for interfering with His purpose.

    6. Jesus’ sacrifice for me is more than I can grasp. I pray to understand and appreciate it more. I am always amazed. What really stands out to me is how clueless the disciples were as their salvation was accomplished. The events were devastating to them and they could not lift their eyes above them. Jesus’ eyes were on the eternal while they were pretty much stuck in the temporal. All they could do was trust and that is what they did.

  30. 5.  Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened.

    Peter used his sword to cut off the ear of a servant of one of the high priests. Jesus didn’t care for that much, and scolded Peter, telling him to put the sword away. (Doesn’t Jesus heal the ear in a different account?) Keller says it’s important that the servants name is mentioned. He says this is how we know it is an eye witness account.

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why?

    Jesus is accepting the whole ordeal because it is what is supposed to happen. He doesn’t want anyone else to suffer because that is not what God has scripted. He will take the pain and suffering for us. Everytime I realize this it makes me cry. Thank you Jesus for loving us so much.

    1. Yes, Thank you so much, Jesus!

  31. B. Bono was asked if it wasn’t a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. What was his response?

    Bono says no, it’s not a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. He says either he was a madman or he was truth. Bono can’t conceive that one half of the human race has had it’s history changed by a nut case. He must be truth.

  32. 3. Read John 18:1-3

    A. Describe the band of soldiers that came for Jesus. (Keller says a “band” was at least 200). Why do you think there were so many? Why were they armed?

    My translation says Judas came with the Roman cohort, or a battalion, normally 600 men; also, officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees came along. I’m thinking the weapons were brought with Jesus in mind. Surely, a few disciples of Jesus would have been no match for even 50 Roman soldiers without weapons. But knowing of His miracles, perhaps they had the idea that He would use His miraculous demonstrations of power against them. How foolish to think you can subdue power that can raise the dead with human weapons.

    B. Meditate and comment on John 18:4.

    I am intrigued at His question, “Whom do you seek?” It makes me think of God coming down to the Garden of Eden, knowing what had happened, and calling for Adam, “Where are you?” He already knew. It says here that Jesus therefore, “knowing all the things that were coming upon Him…” steps forward and asks this question.
    It seems a very profound question. God had said in Scripture that those who seek Him earnestly, shall find Him. On the surface, it seems He only wants to identify Himself, but it seems deeper than that. It also makes me think of how, when people would ask Jesus a question, He would answer them with a question. The deeper layer here is it seems a very soul-searching question.

    C. In verse 5, when Jesus says, “I am He”, there is actually no “he”. It is simply “I AM”. Look up the following five references and find how His enemies reacted when He made an “I AM” statement:

    John 6:35 “I am the bread of life” – “the Jews therefore were grumbling about Him because He said , ‘I am the bread that came down out of heaven'”.

    John 8:12 “I am the light of the world” – “the Pharisees said to Him, You are bearing witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true.”

    John 8:58 “Before Abraham was born, I AM” – “Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him…”

    John 10:7 “I am the door of the sheep” – “There arose a division again among the Jews because of these words.”

    John 10:14 – “I am the good shepherd” – His words caused division; some saying He “has a demon and is insane”, others said, “these are not the sayings of one demon-possessed.”

    1. Dee, have and will pray-so excited for this weekend for you, David and the ladies there, and that you and Angela can be together-that will be a sweet time!

      1. Ye, Many Blessing’s for your trip and fellowship with opened heart’s. Bless your sweet time with Angela. Be with her babies while she is gone.
        And Please lord help all who are suffering from the tornatoe’s…losing loved one’s and their homes and belonging’s. Oh so much hardship. Keep us all close to your heart, Dear Jesus.
        Quicken the hearts of the women so blessed to be able to be there and open up Bonnie’s heart to you and fill her with your spirit Help her phyically and spiritually, Dear Heavenly Father.

    2. Praying for your trip Dee–so thankful sweet Angela will be there! I have been wanting to ask about Bonnie–have been praying for her each morning (she’s been my letter “B” when I pray through our group using the ABC’s, as I’m waking up in bed!) Will continue to pray He will woo her to Himself and she willknow His embrace

      1. wow elizabeth Great Idea about praying using Abc’s! Praying for you too!

    3. oh Dee..just read about Bonnie…Lord, you are I AM-we plead Lord for you to draw Bonnie to you-lift the blinders from her eyes-show her your Holiness, help her to see.

    4. Praying for your safety, Dee, and for all you will say and do while there.
      I’m sorry to hear about Bonnie’s health, and will be praying for her salvation.

    5. Praying for safe travel, quickening and Bonnie’s health and salvation.

    6. Praying for you, and praying for Aunt Bonnie. Love you!

  33. Wow, just spent an hour posting-trying to put Keller’s notes into my own words and when I entered it, i lost it-forgot to re-enter my name and e-mail. Yikes! Will come back-need to get off for now.

  34. 7. The Greatest Claim

    A. What are some claims that Jesus made that no other founder of any religion ever made?

    Jesus claimed He was God. Jesus is saying I have not come to show you how to find God, I am God come in the flesh come to find you because you will never find me unless I come to find you.

    B. Bono was asked if it wasn’t a bit much that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. What was his response?

    Bono said Jesus was either God, or a nutcase, and Bono’s conclusion was that Jesus is God because “the idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside down by a nutcase, for me, that’s farfetched…”

    C. C. S. Lewis has a famous argument in Mere Christianity in which he challenges those who want to believe Jesus is just a great teacher. What was it? I found the passage in Mere Christianity online. Hope this is it:

    “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg – or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to. (Lewis 1952, p. 43)”

    1. Rebecca

      It looks like your notes did post unless you werent thinking of this post as your “notes”

      1. Hi Meg! It does, doesn’t it..but looking at the times, my earlier post didn’t post. It was because I had to enter my name and e-mail again in the comment section and I didn’t so I lost my post. That is o.k. there isn’t anything wrong with the comment section here-it was just me. 😉

  35. THE GREATEST PROBLEM

    What notes do you have on this section?

    No one can stay on their feet in the presence of God. I LOVED THIS:

    Something Alex Huskey who did a study on those who really got close to God wrote: The literature of religious experience abounds to the pains and terrors overwhelming those who have come to suddenly face with the mysterium tremendum. This fear is due to the incompatibility Between mans egotism and the divine purity, between man’s self aggravated separateness and the infinity of God.

    All of our self images are based on performance. Our self image and identity is fragile. Or accomplishment, here is the money I have made, here are the talents I have, etc.

    When someone who is better than you-your talent let’s say, you want to get away from them-it is traumatic, if that is hard, what makes you think being in the presence of God would be better-it is worse! This is why when we get into the presence of God who is better than us it is traumatic.

    When Isaiah got near the glory of God in the temple and got near the Glory of God he said, woe is me I am coming apart, I am a man of unclean lips. No one can stand in the presence of God. We have completely lost this idea in our culture, we see God as a warm fuzzy. We can’t even stand human superlativeness, think about what it will be like in the presence of God.

    SO, here is the greatest problem: If we couldn’t stand before Him and keep our feet, how could we stand before him if we ever meet him or get to judgement day. The answer is we won’t and that is the greatest problem.

  36. What else stood out to you from this sermon and why?

    Of course, we do have a solution to the greatest problem! I loved this part! I will have to post a lot of notes, but it is so worth the read. I didn’t want to leave anything out:

    “Jesus said, I AM..Take me, let them go.

    Jesus says to peter, shall I not drink the cup the father has given me. The cup is a judgment day thing all throughout the old testament. The cup is justice, judgment, suffering, punishment, justice..it’s judgment. On judgment day all the evil doers are going to drink that cup, but Jesus goes to the cross and says everything you deserve will fall on me-all the judgment you deserve will fall on me. I will go into the fire for you.

    “The Gospel says there is going to be a judgement day but the judge came to earth and was judged in our place. Jesus was the judge who was judged, why? Because he loves us too much that he doesn’t want any of us judged. He will take the judgement so that on judgement day you can stand on your feet.”…:-)!

    “If you believe on judgment day you won’t lose your footing, this means you won’t be able to lose your footing now.”….LOVED, LOVED THIS!!

    “When you are criticized now, you won’t lose your footing..who cares what others think. I am not on trial anymore, the verdict is in, I am not guilty, I am accepted in Him..If you know on the last day you are going to stand on your feet and help you from losing your footing when you are criticized. It will help you stand on your feet when you are wronged. If you don’t believe you can stand on judgment day, you will believe you need to get back at this person, you will lose your footing, you will be hard. You will lose your footing. If you say you are trying..you know the Gospel up here but not down here…” YET TAKE COMFORT EVEN IF YOU FORGET THE GOSPEL…(READ BELOW!)

    “Look at Peter-Peter has been three years in graduate training under Christ. Jesus has been saying I didn’t pick up the sword, I came to give my life. He has been getting Peter ready with the Gospel, now here is the key moment and Peter attacks the guard who seizes Jesus. I am encouraged that Jesus didn’t say to the soldiers, I have changed my mind, take him. Jesus says to Peter, o.k. Peter, let’s go over the Gospel one more time..The cup. The father, drink, judge..This is unyielding love. No amount of pain or stupidity will stop him from loving us, no amount of not practicing the Gospel will stop him from loving us.”

    WOW…This spoke to me. I have always said Peter reminds me of me..I fail miserably, but I am humbled and fall to my knees inside when I think of Jesus’ Grace for a Peter like me. Yet, His Love also compels me to persevere in faith-How could I not? I am His-He is faithful and will never give up on me-and I didn’t deserve it and still don’t. I am His by what He did for me on the cross! It is He who is faithful, I am the one who can be unfaithful and this makes me not want to ever be unfaithful!

  37. Can anyone help me find out how to listen to the sermon without I-Tunes?

    1. Kim, I know what you mean..I did and it kept stopping on I-Tunes, so I had to keep fast forwarding it.

      I am not sure but I think I-Tunes is the only way since it is a podcast. I didn’t see where it is downloadable though. I went to the sermon store to see if I could find it there to download it, but it isn’t there I don’t think.

      1. Here is a link from the Free Sermons on Redeemers website, I hope this works for you!

        http://sermons2.redeemer.com/sermons/i-am-he

        1. Chris, I went to that also but it says the date of the sermon is 4/29/11 so I am wondering if it is a different sermon?

        2. The link Dee gave says: February 17, 2008

        3. KIM….CHRIS’S LINK IS CORRECT! I would listen to it via this link..I Tunes stops and starts over throughout the whole sermon. I checked it by listening and it is the right one. She even reads the passage as John 8:1-11 at the beginning. Even though Redeemer wrote it is John 18, it isn’t. Trust me, this link is better.

          Good job Chris, I couldn’t find it no matter what I typed in.

        4. The one on Chris’s link matched Rebecca’s notes. I listened to it on my cell phone — android, don’t have iTunes on that. It did stop a few times… but was ok. The sermon was excellent.

          Thanks for link, Chris, and for great notes, Rebecca!

        5. Renee, So glad you were able to listen! 🙂

        6. Thank you, Rebecca!

      2. My husband may need to help me download ITunes. Thanks for the help.

    2. Me too, Kim

  38. Has anyone listened who can tell me if the sermon is taken from John 18:1-11? That way I will know for sure

    1. Kim, The sermon is really John 8-Redeemer made a typo. If you click it on and listen you will hear her reading from John 8.

  39. I was at work when I found the link, I only had a few minutes, when I started reading my emails, I was afraid I had posted the wrong one!
    I did a search of all sermons and it was $2.50, so I looked under, Who Is God? in the free sermons, that was how I found it.
    I am glad it worked!

    1. Thank you!

  40. The Greatest Claim: “I AM”; the Way, the Truth, the Life; Jesus takes the deity on Himself

    The Greatest Problem: How will we stand in His Presence in our humanity? We Can’t.

    The Solution: Jesus, took the judgement so that on Judgement Day we can stand on our feet because He paid for our sin – our sin has been forgiven.

    My Takeaway: I’m still trying to process this a bit. There will be a Judgement Day – and we won’t fall in His Presence, because He’s already paid for our sin? If that is true, then how shall we live? In grateful awe and adoration of Him, not taking our forgiveness for granted, and sharing His unyielding love with others…sharing His passion that not one be lost?

  41. My take away is a tremendous sense of the holiness of God, especially after listening to R.C. Sproul. The words of Keller topped that off: “Jesus was not a prophet who came to show us the way to God. He is the God who came to get us and bring us to God.” That is my paraphrase because I did not write it down. I am overwhelmed that the I AM whose word flattened a regiment of seasoned warriors and spoke all of this into existence came to earth for me. To bring me to Himself. This is tremendous truth that we are digesting this week and for me, it is only a seed. I pray that it will take root and grow strong and deep. We are growing in Him and I am so thrilled.

    Dee, I appreciate what you said about how easy it is for us to believe that the trouble that comes into our lives is because of our failure. It is so freeing to know that this is not the reason for our trouble. He will never punish us because Jesus took our punishment.

  42. I have a Lent update to share this morning. As I work on study questions I realize that I am savoring the Bread of Life. The truths that He is showing me ‘taste good’. I can meditate and reflect and watch as random thoughts come together to solid truth at His direction. It is very much like eating in that I am nourished, it tastes good to me and I can go slow or return to them at any time and savor. This has been my desire for Lent, to be satisfied in Him.

    1. Anne, this was good: This has been my desire for Lent, to be satisfied in Him. Then how you went into describing what that looks like in savoring the Bread of Life-chewing the cud-meditating on Him.

      1. Yes! Chewing the cud, and we can do that anytime, anywhere. BTW love your new picture.

        1. Love this from you, Anne. I agree that God’s word can nourish us and satisfy us when nothing else can.
          Love the picture too, Rebecca. You look like a young schoolgirl and will try not to be mad at you for that. 😉

    2. I like this too, Anne!

  43. My takeaway is well, may seem almost too simple-2 things stuck out to me: One was to apply the Gospel, that I will stand on judgment day, to my life situations. When I am criticized, the verdict is in, I am not guilty anymore, I am accepted in Him. It shouldn’t matter what others think of me.

    Second thing: I have reflected on the times I do tremble before the Lord, yet also I see there are times I don’t-that makes me sick to even think for a second that I know better than Him-how idiotic and prideful! For me, it is sin related-whenever I am tempted to run to an idol or to anyone for approval, to run to comfort, to take things in my hands, or when I have let the beast in I sense His Holiness and I just can’t continue on that path- however, those are the things I am aware of! I tremble to think of the things I am not yet aware of, but like Peter, I trust He will show me. Two years ago when I was steeped in really both my comfort and approval idols-I am finding out even more so approval, I couldn’t say what I just said above.

    To put it in a nutshell-I am Grateful once again to be covered in His Righteousness-I am grateful for who He is-He is I AM. There is none above Him-and I’m His. My name is written on His breastplate and I will stand on Judgment day because of what He has done for me..This brings me to my knees inside, what Love, what unmerited honor! I want to walk in this daily- I don’t want to forget, yet I know I will, but there is Grace and I want to grow in not forgetting.

    Lord, please don’t let me forget. Do what you must. I don’t ever want to chase after other lovers again-ever. Keep my feet on your solid ground Lord and use your chisel.

    1. Yes, Lord!

    2. loved ALL of this beautiful Rebecca–oh Lord, how I too, “don’t ever want to chase after other lovers again”!

  44. Saturday:
    What’s your take-a-way? Why?

    I keep pondering the thoughts of our Almighty Incomprehensible Beginingless Holy God who created everything that is and holds everything together, desiring an intimate relationship with me, a sinner, and that in so many ways I dare to hesitate to accept Him as my Lord and Master, how foolish, it is the height of folly not to let Him in the boat, not to give myself completely to God who saves me from the pit, who humbled Himself and went to the cross to save me.

    I thought of these scenes from Forest Gump;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZH9ebAZouk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi1EkHiKZgs&feature=related

    I have not been blasphemous as Lieutenant Dan was, but I have been struggling to understand rather than just surrendering and accepting my trials. I have struggled so with how , I still can hardly even type the words, Daniels death, could work together for good.

    I feel as if I have turned a corner, my pride has been exposed I see it and I hate it. I feel more surrendered than I ever have. I keep thinking about the Tree of Life movie, that awful sort of shreiking moan that represented the mothers struggle, I know that sound in my soul.

    I want to begin to be ready to give an answer for the hope that is in me. I see people trying to figure me out; they wonder how can I be at peace and have joy with what I have gone through. I haven’t been able to articulate this to well yet. I hope now to begin to have the words, then the opportunities to share.

    I was thinking that my earlier prayer to begin to feel loved by God has been answered.

    Phillipians 3:7-15 But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ.
    Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
    and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith–
    that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
    that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
    Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
    Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
    I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
    Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

    I keep reminding myself that I don’t have any righteousness of my own, and I am so grateful to be covered in Christ’s righteousness, and that last verse is such a comfort, God will continue His work in me.

    I want to thank Dee for feeding us solid food, for shepherding us!

    Thank you to everyone who have been so tenderhearted to me, thanks you for praying for Brian, and Bills Mom, and for me.

    1. Chris,
      Excellent — both humbling and encouraging –post. Thank you!

      The passage you quoted from Philippians seems to be one of those passages that I process in phases — first, I sort of claim/cling to it (almost as much wishful thinking as belief) and then eventually it becomes anchored and holds more meaning deep in my soul. And then when something else happens, I start over again. But the deep down knowing that God is good and He is faithful (and was faithful before) makes it possible to “press on.”

    2. Chris S, this really touches my heart. Thanks so much for sharing. It is so beautiful to see what God is doing in your heart.

    3. Beautiful–oh Chris, this ministered to me–so thankful for your heart and that you are here. Do you havea blog? You really have such great thoughts, I would love to read more

    4. OH Chris..I just read this. This moved me so. God is glorifying Himself through you- drawing you so close.

  45. 4. Read John 18:6-9

    A. What happened when Jesus said “I AM”. Why, do you think?

    I find it interesting that after Jesus asks, “Whom do you seek?”, they reply, “Jesus the Nazarene”. In other words, Jesus, the guy from Nazareth stirring up all this trouble; the human-only Jesus. But Jesus answers, “I AM”. I get the feeling He made the point, right there, that He was God in the flesh. I like the picture above of the light coming through the cracks in the door; at that moment, some of His divine power was unleashed – a fleeting light came through, and they fell back.
    I also thought of the Scripture that says that at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow. It will not necessarily be voluntary on everyone’s part, but they will bow.

    B. What did Jesus ask them to do in verse 8?

    He asks them to let the disciples go free. I also see that He repeats the I AM here, yet here He holds His divinity ‘in-check’; they do not fall back this time. He is going to submit Himself into their hands.

    C. Why, according to verse 9?

    Because God always keeps His promises, and He had said He would lose none of those whom the Father had given Him. He gives His life for them, His life for us.

    5. Read John 18:10-11 and report what happened.

    Peter drew his sword, cutting off the right ear of Malchus, the high priest’s servant. Jesus patiently tells Peter to put his sword away, and reminds Peter that He must drink the cup the Father has given Him.

    6. What stands out to you from this account and why?

    Jesus is always the initiator. Judas and the soldiers were coming for Him; He steps forward to meet them. Jesus is courageous. The wrath, justice, and mercy/restraint of God is shown when He says to them, “I AM”, and all that happens to them is that they fall; then He restrains His divine power and gives Himself into their hands. Ready to die for the ones who will arrest and kill Him. Jesus our Strong Protector. He faces the enemy of sin and death for us, and willingly places us behind Him and asks for our release – take Me, let them go.

    1. Love that every knee will bow – whether or not they want to! I am so glad we want to bow before Him.

    2. How is your mon, Susan?

      Did anyone hear from Rebekah yet?

      Marianne, how are you doing?

      Diane, how is your daughter doing?

      Chris, how is Brian?

      How are the two son’s named Kyle, doing?

      Rebecca, how are your boys doing?

      Just wondering a few of these things!

      1. My daughter is doing OK, Joyce. Thanks for asking. We spent some time playing with the boys and Krista on Friday, but didn’t get much chance for talking about serious stuff. I find it hard to get her to talk bluntly about what is going on inside her. I am going to visit her on Monday to help with some housework and hopefully have some good talking time. I would appreciate it if you would pray that we might be able to have a heart to heart talk.

        1. I will!

  46. A. What are some claims that Jesus made that no other founder of any religion ever made?

    Jesus is God and has come to us. He is superior. All other religions point to some other being (Mohammad, Buddha Confucius)but when Jesus says “I AM” He means there is no beginning, end or cause to me. All things, all persons depend every second on me. He says the exact opposite of the others. They say, “This is the way to the truth, or this is how to live.” He is saying I AM the way to find God.

  47. I was pondering again today the quote I found from Augustine, on the Mysterium Tremendum:
    “What is that which gleams through me and smites my heart without wounding it? I both a-shudder and aglow. A-shudder, in so far as I am unlike it, aglow in so far as I am like it.”

    What I love is the HOPE that is in it for me. The holiness of God brings me to my knees, and yet and causes me to shudder, to tremble, at my own wretched sin. AND YET, there IS a glow–the glow that we are called His own–it is a mystery…a grand and glorious, beautiful mystery…for which I am forever humbled and thankful.

    1. Wow! that’s beautiful, Elizabeth!

  48. Ladies I need prayer please .. I am not feeling well and have cried myself to sleep the last 3 nights:( thank you

    1. Praying for you Meg. For restored health.

    2. Dear Jesus, I lift Meg to you this evening that you would be her comfort. Help her to run to you with all her hurts, concerns and cares. Give her a good night’s rest. Remind her of your love towards her. Amen.